The conference is fun because of the parity. I think different teams will have their time on top and then rotate to others. There will be consistent teams that are always competitive as you say, an Ok State. They beat Texas routinely and OU last season. Also beat Notre Dame, Bama and Georgia the last times they played. (They do have a few chokes along the way though)
Chuba Hubbard got injured the year after his breakout season. Also Gundy always does well in one score games and also his record with returning starting QB’s is pretty good.
Before i start this, if he's thinking the same thing i am, then we are the rare people talking about it (returning experience, senior laden team, returning starters at key positions, fairly easy schedule). With nearly that same team last season, they went 10-4. Back to update what i was going to say after watching the video. Yes, Oklahoma St should be a favorite to win the Big 12 and make the playoff if people pay attention. If you want to make some money, one of your best bets is Oklahoma St OVER anything under 9.5 wins. They'll never give them 9.5 so you're safe to bet this at any time leading up to the season.
Most returning starters should have the best OL,thunder, and lighting with Ollie Gordon and Aj Green at RB. They also got an upgrade at DL Coach with Paul Randolph. So very primed to win the BIG12 Championship in 2024. 2025 will be a rebuild year. GO POKES 🤠
@mrclean30 I mean, out of all the AAC teams that went to the Big 12 last year, they were the best. They also had 3 losses by 2pts or less and blew out the Big 12 Runner Up (OK State). You also have to take into account their location. Central Florida is a recruiting hub.
KSU is definitely in the top for competing for the title this year. Not a "Dark Horse". I'd personally put Utah, OSU, and KSU at the top 3. Sure, no Will Howard, but they're solid.
oSu should lean into becoming Transfer U. They are phenomenal at developing talent, thanks to Coach Glass (Strength & Conditioning) and trying to keep guys happy in the program. oSu, K-State & Utah all have the opportunity to run the conference.
When one team totally dominates a conference,,winning 14 titles in 23 yrs,,when 1 team loses a combined 5 games to 3 teams,,when it's the same 2 or 3 teams every year,that's not parity!Now with the addition of Utah,Ariz St/Ariz and Colorado, along with K State,TCU,TexTech,Kansas and OSU the big 12 should be far more competitive,,perhaps put 2 teams in the new playoff format! Already,they're talking about as many as 6 teams from SEC(OU not one of the 6),4 from Big 10 ,,1 Big12 1 ACC,,,,Ridiculous
Pokes have a shot... But so do ksu, ku, ucf, Arizona, I do not understand the Utah love though? 8-5. Not competitive at all with the other top PAC teams (routed by Oregon, Oregon State, Arizona, Washington) and couldn't even beat NorthWorstern...
That's because you weren't paying attention. They had their 4th string QB (a pig farmer) playing, and over a dozen starters injured. How do you win 8 games under those conditions? Be solid and tough.
They lost to washington by a td with half the team out injured. 4th string qb all year as well. You won’t be second guessing them when they are clapping cheeks.
@AlexanderWinterborn I’m not offended at all. I actually don’t believe Utah will just walk through the BIG12 although they do avoid a few of the tougher teams and have a relatively weak in conference schedule. With that being said my point I’m trying to make is that Utah is so much better than anyone thinks or anyone gives them respect for. They still won 8 games last year with a pig farmer as their qb. And at this point they are right in the blue blood program mix. It’s an elite program. But I guess we will see when it comes down to it this season. Talk is cheap haha
Oklahoma State hasn't won a legitimate national championship in football. So desperate to be considered gridiron relevant, Ok St claims the 1945 championship which the NCAA doesn't even recognize Ok St as being the champion....the natty in '45 went to Army.
Wow. Somebody actually did some research on OK State and knew what they were talking about. Nice job!
Finally another person who agrees with me!!
Same!!
The conference is fun because of the parity. I think different teams will have their time on top and then rotate to others. There will be consistent teams that are always competitive as you say, an Ok State. They beat Texas routinely and OU last season. Also beat Notre Dame, Bama and Georgia the last times they played. (They do have a few chokes along the way though)
The civil fans on both sides of Bedlam find common ground in their respective teams tendencies to choke. Lol.
This defense is giving me 2021 vibes
Chuba Hubbard got injured the year after his breakout season.
Also Gundy always does well in one score games and also his record with returning starting QB’s is pretty good.
Before i start this, if he's thinking the same thing i am, then we are the rare people talking about it (returning experience, senior laden team, returning starters at key positions, fairly easy schedule).
With nearly that same team last season, they went 10-4.
Back to update what i was going to say after watching the video. Yes, Oklahoma St should be a favorite to win the Big 12 and make the playoff if people pay attention. If you want to make some money, one of your best bets is Oklahoma St OVER anything under 9.5 wins. They'll never give them 9.5 so you're safe to bet this at any time leading up to the season.
I’m slamming them to make the playoffs . Potentially even top 10 . I’m an Oregon fan but I’m rooting for the COWBOYS
Might be a shot in the dark, but if you get a chance could you do a rise/history of WVU football?
Hj
Most returning starters should have the best OL,thunder, and lighting with Ollie Gordon and Aj Green at RB. They also got an upgrade at DL Coach with Paul Randolph. So very primed to win the BIG12 Championship in 2024. 2025 will be a rebuild year. GO POKES 🤠
Aj green probably won’t play this season :(
@@jerronsherrill734 we got another guy from Indiana
Utah will win the conference title their first year in.
Will you ever cover eastern illinois university's football program? They went from 2-9 to 8-3 in a year
OK State, K State and Utah.
+arizona (cincinnati maybe??)
@@mrclean30 UCF????
@@j.thompson9345 ucf sucks 😭
@mrclean30 I mean, out of all the AAC teams that went to the Big 12 last year, they were the best. They also had 3 losses by 2pts or less and blew out the Big 12 Runner Up (OK State).
You also have to take into account their location. Central Florida is a recruiting hub.
1st / KSU
2nd / Utah
3rd / Okie State
Utah Zona and Ok state are the faves. id say Colo and Ksu are the dark horses.
KSU can’t be a dark horse when so many people think they’re going to be in the big 12 title game
KSU is definitely in the top for competing for the title this year. Not a "Dark Horse". I'd personally put Utah, OSU, and KSU at the top 3. Sure, no Will Howard, but they're solid.
oSu should lean into becoming Transfer U. They are phenomenal at developing talent, thanks to Coach Glass (Strength & Conditioning) and trying to keep guys happy in the program.
oSu, K-State & Utah all have the opportunity to run the conference.
Let’s go pokes!
Oklahoma State will NEVER get to the top with Mike Gundy as their head coach. He is all hat and no cattle.
We almost made it in the 2011 season, and we would’ve won if it weren’t for the plane crash before the Iowa State game
When one team totally dominates a conference,,winning 14 titles in 23 yrs,,when 1 team loses a combined 5 games to 3 teams,,when it's the same 2 or 3 teams every year,that's not parity!Now with the addition of Utah,Ariz St/Ariz and Colorado, along with K State,TCU,TexTech,Kansas and OSU the big 12 should be far more competitive,,perhaps put 2 teams in the new playoff format! Already,they're talking about as many as 6 teams from SEC(OU not one of the 6),4 from Big 10 ,,1 Big12 1 ACC,,,,Ridiculous
OK State is in a weird spot because they should be the premier program in the new Big 12, but the new Big 12 is not a premier conference.
UCF looks at the video title and laughs 😆
GO POKES!!!
GO POKES 🤠
UCF
Deep and Experience OL is the reason why Oklahoma State will win the Big12 this year.
😂 because Oklahoma nd Texas are leaving
Start of their downfall
@@rickterry8991Texas and OU leaving was the start of the big 12s downfall. Let’s not kid ourselves, OU and Texas left a sinking ship
@@texascouchcoach256no😂
Ou left with a lose
@AlexanderWinterborn think God the grammar patrol is here. I love 90 year old grannies
Hey the Pokers will finally get to be relevant! Good for you little brother!
45-3 thats all i gotta say
But not the last one
Still made the title game
KU winning the Big 12
Pokes have a shot... But so do ksu, ku, ucf, Arizona, I do not understand the Utah love though? 8-5. Not competitive at all with the other top PAC teams (routed by Oregon, Oregon State, Arizona, Washington) and couldn't even beat NorthWorstern...
That's because you weren't paying attention. They had their 4th string QB (a pig farmer) playing, and over a dozen starters injured. How do you win 8 games under those conditions? Be solid and tough.
They lost to washington by a td with half the team out injured. 4th string qb all year as well. You won’t be second guessing them when they are clapping cheeks.
@AlexanderWinterborn with their fourth string qb and a million injuries.
@AlexanderWinterborn I’m not offended at all. I actually don’t believe Utah will just walk through the BIG12 although they do avoid a few of the tougher teams and have a relatively weak in conference schedule. With that being said my point I’m trying to make is that Utah is so much better than anyone thinks or anyone gives them respect for. They still won 8 games last year with a pig farmer as their qb. And at this point they are right in the blue blood program mix. It’s an elite program. But I guess we will see when it comes down to it this season. Talk is cheap haha
Oklahoma State hasn't won a legitimate national championship in football. So desperate to be considered gridiron relevant, Ok St claims the 1945 championship which the NCAA doesn't even recognize Ok St as being the champion....the natty in '45 went to Army.