EU/UK Zelensky Panic JD Vance VP; Rus MiG31s Hunt F16s; MSM Rus Drones Track Destroy HIMARS
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- EU/UK Zelensky Panic JD Vance VP; Rus MiG31s Hunt F16s; MSM Rus Drones Track Destroy HIMARS; Ukr Losses Mount
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As they say, it ain't over.. Until your mom (The Fat Lady) sings..
Netflix did a fine job bringing Hillbilly Elegy to the screen - it's very good and highlights the fine actress Glenn Close as JD's grandmother who is the heroine.
According to rus media Ukraine has ran out of Himars trucks 3x already 😂😂 they also use fake videos or hit inflatable himars etc..
Hi Alex! Both candidates are pro-crypto. I'd like to hear your thoughts on Trump saying he will back Bitcoin if president.
@@bekeneel who knew that inflatable launchers can drive on the road😂
Boris Johnson came to meet Trump in the last 2 days to lobby for Ukraine. Hope Trump ignores such warmonger.
It won't work if Trump has heard that a Ukrainian unit cheered the assassination attempt on social media.
I doubt trump will listen to boris.
@@drakethesnek6429hey, if Boris and his private upper crust status work their charm on a needy, praise loving Trump then he'll be putty in Johnson's hands.
Perhaps JD Vance's speech has given you the answer!
Rupert murdoch was apparently calling trump multiple times a day, constantly begging him to pick a warmonger RINO for vp. he ignored that loser so he'll surely ignore boris as well
“It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal.”
-Henry A. Kissinger
I have been following Alexander since the start of 2022 and my faith and trust in his knowledge and judgement have grown each month. Thank you so much for the information you give us. Lets hope at some point our Western Leaders see sense. 🙏
I agree and do listen to Alexander's podcast on a daily basis from here in Australia. Not only the latest but the best updates possible in the open source alternative media. Thanks, Alexander. Of course, his succinct discussions on The Duran cannot be ignored either mostly on a daily basis.
@@SKG730 I concur - also here in (rural) Australia.
All the talk about the fact, that the war in Ukraine is actually a European war and that therefore the Europeans should mainly support Ukraine can only be understood as a bad joke.
When we remember the events on the Maidan in 2014, we remember above all the "special" role of Viktoria Nuland, then US Deputy Secretary of State. The EU had actually agreed on a negotiated solution with the then President of Ukraine.
Whereupon Ms. Nuland famously said “F***k the EU”.
The USA was the driving force behind using all force to integrate Ukraine into NATO, against the will of Germany and France.
Exactly.
@@gerumarc Remember Flight ✈️ MH 17 🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱
@@gerumarc Remember Katyn Forest 🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
@@joelturley4847 remember UPA nazi
Remember Wolyn
Yeah, but it's like when you are losing all your money in the casino. Technically, the casino boss is responsible, but the bouncer will still show you the door. EU was too stupid and disinterested, then came the post-2000 generation of absollubdumb politicians, and here we go.
Imagine my surprise to hear that Russia has an answer for 50 year old NATO jets. Who could have seen it coming.
😂😂😂50 years old? They can’t be serious 😂😂😂
The F-16 was top gear back in the Cold War and Gulf War 1. The Israelis tried to copy it with the LAVI, which went nowhere but gave us State Diagrams for software analysis.
Play it down, baby😂
@@joelturley4847what Orcs? Are you talking about the average 40 year old Ukrainian soldiers that have not shaved for three months? Not nice
@@joelturley4847
Why not!?
If they are good enough to get job done!?
Smart warriors live their best for last.
I cannot understand why EU is acting so stupidly
A lot of us, European citizens, don’t get it either. And we do not agree with the idiots
@@Layp107 rightly said
Corruption $$$
Favours for favours. Their kids study in the best American schools.
Because their idiots.
"Nikki Haley, God help us". So true. She is one step up from Kamala Harris... barely
Both of them are so insanely unqualified, they can easily be hired as U.S. Secret Service agents.
00:00 Selection of the Vice President
05:00 European reaction
09:31 J.D. Vance and his views
18:22 Influence on foreign policy
23:48 Influence on domestic policy
24:58 Vance as a vice presidential candidate
30:03 The impact of the assassination attempt on Trump
34:22 Consequences of attempted murder
37:28 The situation in Ukraine
41:18 Projectile production in Europe
45:22 The situation in Ukraine and the supply of fighters
53:33 F-16s and their effectiveness
57:28 General Gerasimov and his visit to the front
01:04:22 Decrease in the number of victims and the use of drones
01:06:53 The situation on the fronts
01:11:12 Fighting in the north
01:16:17 Fighting in the west
Thanks so much for the synopsis
@@grangefield8260 yt always delete my comment about how everybody can do it))
Don't call Zelensky Presidente because he hasn't been reelected.
El Commandante
@@darrylboone4658
The Pretender/Usurper
What do you call Xi then? He has never been elected by the Chinese people in any election?
Zelensky will have elections when war is over. Dont worry about it.
Even if they had elections you would say they were not legitimate. In the end you dont care about it
@@darrylboone4658Adolf Putin, der Fuhrer
@@TheArdildoOoo nafo getting edgy
Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has dismissed the idea of creating “autonomous regions” in Ukraine, floated by Trump ally Rick Grenell, as too little, too late.
Grenell was one of the few trusted operatives in President Donald Trump’s administration, serving first as ambassador to Germany and then as acting director of National Intelligence.
“Where were you, Rick, when the Minsk agreements dedicated to exactly this were on the table of the international community, and Russia did its best in support of them and called for finding a form of federalization of Ukraine to preserve its integrity?” Zakharova said on Telegram, reacting to Grenell’s proposal.
“You were the US ambassador in Berlin at the time and called on the Germans to abandon the construction of the Nord Stream gas pipeline, grossly interfering in the internal affairs of Russia and Germany. Now the Germans are without gas and the economy, and the Ukrainians are without a country and a stable future,” she added. -RT
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Unfortunately Trump is an idiot.. easily manipulated
The Native American says the pilgrim speaks with forked tongue . Trust at your own peril . Minks agreement !!!
Right on, Maria. Trump is no different from Biden, nothing new can be expected from the US government's musical chair, recycled every 4 years.
Zakharova is 100% correct! As a westerner myself it's absolutely shameful to witness what we became. Now they even made us into "common thieves"! How low can we go? Before some dignified moral stand comes up.
I served under NATO more than 30 years ago. Shortly before the last breath of USSR. Witness it all while in service.
I was brought up under the premise "we good, they bad". That simple, very black & white.
The fact is that, I witness enough to say we are not the good guys! Russia is on the right side of history. ALL the events of the past decades lead us to this war. We fabricated it all. Absolutely disgusting!
"The Europeans are very upset by the selection of Vance". Stop. You don't need to sell it. I was already on board.
Thanks Alexander for more excellent analysis.
The usual MINDLESS drivel 😊
Zelinsky is in panic.Vance not support nazi.😁
The constant attacks on Trump could bring about the very things that the establishment says they are worried about. Why would Trump work with the British, for instance, after some of the vile things that Starmer and other British politicians have said about him? That also applies to many Europeans and even NATO figures.
Trump intended to leave NATO in his 2nd term and had already started to pull US troops out of Germany
The US is like a friend who offers to share a 50 mile taxi ride with you, then gets out after 1 mile and leaves $5 on the seat.
Kiev in threeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee days 😂😂😂
@@joelturley4847 Said by a US general.
@@joelturley4847 tokmak in twoooooooo weeeeeeeeks. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@joelturley4847 600 billion and the orcs still can't beat Putin! 😂😂😂😂😂
A jew friend ?
I am in Africa. Right now, no lights. Power outage is normal here. It is pich dark. I still listen to Alex . Thanks man
Is Africa a country?
I am in Ghana and there is light
Stop thinking that Africa is one country. Enough of stereotyping 😊
Saying you are in Africa is as meaningless as saying you are in Asia . Africa is not a village ( the problem you describe does not exist where I live, for example )-that kind of sweeping description is no different from the kind of fantastical stories that lazy journalists & Joseph Conrad types like to share at dinners / garden parties in Europe for the amusement of the less traveled. To give you a sense of scale the whole of China,US, India, and Western Europe can fit in the landmass called Africa.
I can tell stories of fixing power supply in Congo at 00:00
The “dark continent” or haven’t you heard of it.
The politicians hyenas.
While I understand the optimism regarding JD Vance being the vice presidential nominee due to his stance on the Ukraine war, I think it’s important to also note that he appears to be a hawk in regards to Iran. He said yesterday that they need to hit Iran harder, and that Trump taking out Soleimani was a brilliant move that made the region more peaceful. This type of thinking and rhetoric is as much of a concern to global stability as the pro Ukraine stance taken by the Ukraine Hawks, as a hard stance against Iran is still a hostile stance against Russia, as those two states are now aligned strategically. While yes the move to bring the Ukraine war to a stop is absolutely positive and much needed, I fear however that the aggression directed towards Russia from the current administration will be redirected by the Trump administration towards Iran and China, rather than completely dissipate which is what is required for a smooth transition to the new global security framework that is inevitably ahead.
Well stated. Trump let a fox in the henhouse, I fear.
That's the thing with Alex M. is his whole standard is: "how does this affect the Ukraine War" ..As a result his analysis comes a cropper time after time (as in the recent French elections fiasco of his commentary)....
@@JohnJohnson-n3n I think Alex is under the assumption that the Ukraine war is the catalyst for all other major geopolitical events around the world, as Brics v NATO is essentially a struggle between the two power centres of the world. He is also European so it makes sense that his perspective would be one that focuses on the European theatre. I personally believe Alex does not place enough emphasis on the events in the Middle East and how that has the potential to be the spark plug that ignites the next stage of the geopolitical restructuring, but in saying that I could easily be wrong with my assumption there, and in fact the Middle East has rather been over emphasised because of the media and general traction the conflict in Gaza has received all across the world because of the humanitarian crises. All in all I think Alex’s analysis is the best there currently is on the internet, understanding full well the gravitas of that statement. As long as you understand that he naturally has a euro-centric focus, I don’t think you will find a more rational, well balanced and intelligent breakdown of world events as to what you get from this channel and the Duran more widely. I appreciate your response though, this community brings me great joy in knowing there are so many like minded people out there who are curious in understanding world events in a rational and intellectual manner, the world has never needed it more.
The American Raj in Europe is ending. When Attlee and Mountbatten relinquished British rule in India, the Indians were delighted. When Trump & Vance do the same thing with Europe, the Europeans are appalled. Very strange.
"The Europeans" in this case are a Janissary class who have been educated, indoctrinated and employed within a US funded network of NGOs, thinktanks, media and academia to serve the US - not just literally, but also emotionally and instinctively. Brian Berletic at the New Atlas has numerous videos describing how US funded NGOs identify people, sweep them into a US dominated network and indoctrinate them to serve US interests over the interests of their own countries - usually under the cover of being human rights or democracy activists. He focuses on how this is done in Asia, but the US has done this ever since WW2 in Europe. Its an old trick - the Romans seduced the young nobility of the tribes they conquered, and the Ottomans literally kidnapped and indoctrinated the strongest and smartest children of their subjects.
These people stand to lose everything if the US funded network of political and think tank posts comes to an end. Rather than serving as a cog in a globe spanning empire, they might have to resign themselves to merely being the PM of a minor eastern European country people cant find on the map.
European leaders in the pockets of the neocons may be appalled. But tge common people such as myself are most definitely delighted
@@samdl1436 hear hear
The old socialist regimes of the Warsaw Pact were also similarly appalled at the Soviet withdrawal from central Europe... And we know what happened to them, so it makes sense that they were.
Tucker Calrson said the most despicable people in Washington, DC hate JD Vance. That's the best endorsement Vance can get.
Maybe they know something about him that we don't.
Thank you for your great work, Alexander ❤👍🏻
No hyperbole and fantasy. Just very solid news and commentary on a daily basis.
Alexandra is a disgraced barista 😅
@@davidcritchley3509😂😂😂
Why do I have the feeling that all this will end badly? The more I know from the situation - thanks also to you Alexander with your excellent analyses - the more it sickens me. So much evil now showing their ugly heads all over the world....
It's time they show there real faces
It is really refreshing to see a true American speaking intelligently about how to save this country and the world from the madness of what the world has witnessed in recent years.
Don't fool your self, Their agenda are the same,
America is doomed.
Yes, the problems ENTIRELY CAUSED by US expansionism and abrogation of treaties.
@@jamesmanolakis2420 You’re Right. It’s over
@@jonsekander619 Ultimately, yes.
STOP POKING THE BEAR❤😊
@@homosapienzeThe bear has a leg of Ukraine in its maw and can't seem to chew it off in 2.5 years.
@@markduncan8227😂
its not a bear....its a rat....
“Time to do what, exactly? Experience a further decline in his health? I’m just saying…” 😂😂😂 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Love it!
Alexander thanks for telling the Truth.
you, him and the truth will never meet !
I remember when people used to say the police don't lie,such innocence.
You have to admit American politics is more exciting than watching a game of cricket
❤😊THANK YOU SIR
Sorry ! the US is not a supper power , it is a paper tiger !!!
Toilet paper tiger.
I wish Trump would state that the US is not interested, or willing, in funding or supporting an ever expanding NATO.
We do not need Nato.
Thank You Alexander. God bless You Sir.
BTW, Vance’s memoir “Hillbilly Elegy “ is on sale , Amazon, $7.45
People forget that the USA is a neighbour of Russia, USA is not neighbouring with Europe. Z.
@cosac6 SO WHAT????
But the people who are running USA they came from Europe.
I don't even know what this means -- we have our forces at everyone else's doorstep, don't we?
Alaska
Russia has border with Poland🤣🤣🤣🤣
But the Europeans cannot tell the Republicans who to choose as their vice presidential candidate
Why should Zelensky be worried about the progress of the Russians on the battle front? He has more mansions around the world than you and I or indeed 99.999% of the world. You should never say that Zelensky is worried. He is an actor. He is a comedian. He is choreographing a dark comedy. The audience is the laughing stock.
What does JD Vance think happened to the NordStream pipelines? Also, Trump wanted Europe to stop importing oil and gas from Russia.
True.
❤😊COLLECTIVE WEST PANICKS
Collective west 😂 laughs at Putler's skinflute players 😢
“panics” He panics.
Thank you Alexander !
12:30 Vance is a venture capitalist and they are the most brutal in rejecting sunk cost fallacies. He is also an acolyte of Peter Thiel who is first and foremost a data-driven objective decision maker.
> data-driven objective decision maker
An illusion. Such things don't exist. It's all roleplaying.
@@SterileNeutrino I guess the proof is Thiel's worth billions and you're not. Quite an objective and data driven scorecard.
And Peter Thiel funded the lawsuit that caused Gawker to go out of business. Thats enough of a reason for me to like him right there.
Pete Thiel is WEF.
@@simonbagel not so simple
And a very good Wednesday morning from Auckland ,New Zealand
Mike Johnson was suppose to be against the Ukraine war before becoming speaker but sold out pretty quickly
I thought he had backbone too until he put his finger to the wind.
The walls are closing in on Elensky....
Nice analysis Alexander
❤😊YOU'RE THE BEST
The EU is like a very entitled and very mean high school girl.
And the American administration is like the very worst kind of bully . Pushing its * democracy * , weapons , ideology et al.
Just totally nasty.
veruca salt from willy wonka
Men have given more women the chance to rule and it’s proven extremely dangerous
That’s especially the UK .. Perfidious Albion always a pirate island
What can one say I'm making some assessment of JD Vance as future VP to trump!!
If I can paraphrase St Paul in his letter to the Corinthians - if my religious indoctrination as a very young boy in the Caribbean still serves me well:
When I was a child
I thought as a child
I spoke as a child
But when I became a man - VP
I put away childish things!!
( One can only hope)!!!!!
"Ghost in the Shell" - diving scene
IN THE CARRIBEANS ???? WHO ????
JD Vance is a Catholic convert so I really don't know what you are talking about....
I turn to agree with DRichardsonn assessments 👍💯 When Trump was a president, he was under pressure to be a warmonger that he ended up bombing Syria for false flag just to appease American/West mainstream media and those Americans who are warmongers including Nicky Hailey. She was ruthless in leading the pack and showing hatred/ contempt without even waiting for the investigation outcome.. There was jubilation everywhere and all those supporting wars together with their NGOs, even appeared content. Boris Johnsons rushing to visit Trump is one of the missions to ensure that Trump/Vance should not try to bring peace but to continue war. However perhaps they should be given a benefit of doubt and hope that they'll do right.🤔 😢
Vance says no more funds for Ukraine but he doesn't say no more funds for the genocide in Gaza.
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Yes and it’s terribly worrying!
@@carolineclements640
Please explain
He’s totally behind that.. have you been to Boca?
T is miga & ne o con in disguise .
Vance is choosen to be a friend in Trump’s foxhole. He will need many friends in the next four years.
Friend? He was a "Never Trumper", wasn't he?
❤ this Channel
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence."
Alexander, knowing that the elections in the United States are fraudulent I wasn’t going to vote anymore but seeing Trump’s Fist pump and listen to JD Vance I’ve changed my mind.
You are naive. Trump and Vance are both owned by AIPAC. Both have already gone to the wailing wall with a yarmulke on. There is a pic on line of both of them there. They are also both owned by Pfizer. Vance said that any nurse not vaccinated should be fired and Trump is still singing the praises of the vaccine. The difference between Trump and Biden is in optics only.
I almost did until he picked Vance.
As a Republican I was upset with Vance pick for VP. He once said some horrible things about Trump and said he would never be a Trumper. Trump already had a VP (Pence) that stabbed him in the back, I was suprised he would pick someone who said those things about him.
😆someone doesnt understand how politics works
Vance has subsequently retracted his comments about Trump and admitted he has been proved wrong about Trump.
@cathygee5733 LOL! That's even worse. Shows he can be persuaded by merely dangling money or power in front of his face. I would have respected him more quite frankly by sticking to his original opinion and just take his name out of consideration.
You are too modest Alexander. You were right
How dare those Americans stop sending money to the EU ????
Especially since it's their war
For as long as it takes .🤔
Americans don't send money to the EU.
@@kimlavender185kimlavender9It is not my war. It is the politicians war.
@antoniescargo1529 I think she means it's the US that started this war and dragged the Europeans into it.
20:44 "Critical US Support for Ukraine" Which as All The World can see, has reduced Ukraine to a smoking shell of its former self!
"Nikki haley, God help us !!" 😅 Nice one ..Correct..What a Nightmare a most disagreeable woman..😅😂😅.
Many ppl forget ...we Americans don't own our government, there's alot of foreign money in it , Israel we hear about but also many many others , the rank and file American doesn't really care about the vast abroad , wishes you ok but doesn't care really one way or the other ...no Malice, it'll be great just us minding our own business 👍👍👍
Consider Russian superiority in military operations research as a crucial aspect of their success.
I am so confused about everything, I just want to relax in my Autumn years of my life, that the children of the World will have a future
I can assure you regarding the Secret Service, etc - they are a Keystone Cop CLOWN SHOW.
Thank you Alexander .
Why doesn't NATO just mind their own business.
Alexander greetings you are the best greetings from Portugal 🇵🇹
THOROUGH AND BRILLIANT, ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT VIDEO!
“The world is a stage” (William Shakespeare aka Sir Francis Bacon, who knew politics was FAKED, for he lived in the Royal Sphere of which most of Shakespeare writing revolved around)
Definitely not DEI hire for Vice President .
His wife is Indian!
Love Alexander on Russia and UK, but his grasp of the US and its politics is rather, shall we say, antique? 😂
He's not great on the UK either be honest, but he's very solid on the Ukraine
Watch Europa - the last battle
🎯💥
Seen it ten years ago shocked we all have been lied to
ah yea, that propaganda "doco" that's full of BS
@@Emily-ou6lq …the world is waking up to their talmuddian lies
Sorry to have to disagree with you, Alexander, but the VP is usually chosen because he can carry an important state (i.e. a swing state, or one with many electoral votes) where the Presidential candidate is weak. Vance helps Trump carry a number of important midwest states...
How do you explain Kamala then?
@@DavyRo I said "usually"; Kamala is clearly an exception. I guess they picked her to shore up support with the soccer moms in the Dem party, or because Obama wanted her to be VP. Who knows...
@@DavyRo Kamala Harris only got V.P. cos she ticked the right boxes for certain votes.
2:01 the usual MO for VP pick is to find someone your enemy would like less than the candidate. Call it insurance.
My guess is that these Migs have integrated voice and data packages so that they can communicate in an integrated way with each other, ands with the Russian version of AWACS.
Love Vance’s position towards the EU.
That and Orban’s meeting with Trump are the first positive signs in years, and I am not even a Trump supporter!🤪
I can think of no greater endorsement for JD Vance than to hear that his potential VP-ship aggravates "certain European leaders".
Fantastic coverage as alway young Alex, again all listens thank you 👍
"The American citizen lives in a world where fantasy is more real than reality, where the image has more dignity than its original. We hardly dare face our bewilderment, because our ambiguous experience is so pleasantly irridescent, and the solace of belief in contrived reality is so thoroughly real. We have become eager accessories to the great hoaxes of the age. These are the hoaxes we play on ourselves." -- Daniel J. Boorstin
"Diversity is our strength!"
Yes I often get the impression that americans have difficulty separating Hollywood fantasy and drama from reality. Many of them appear to think that 'life is a movie. Loud mouth arrogant people.
@@GWulf47one of the positives we do have is how waves of immigrants built this country
Amen
Alexander, you aren't alone. Over many decades I've never seen anyone who can analyze accurately American politics in close elections. There is however no shortage of pundits, many of them well paid, who will make predictions no matter the lack of success of their previous predictions.
seething with rage already...only 24hrs since the vp nomination. this is going to be A VERY ENTERTAINING media meltdown
40:00 Zelensky demanding that many and he gets nothing in the end.
What was he thinking? a slave barking at its master?
Pascal Lottaz on his channel “Neutrality Studies” is explaining where that term “Isolism” originates from: neutrality! actually renamed by warmongers. I would be really happy to see the USA in the position of and cultivating neutrality 😊
“Neutrality Studies” is one of the best long-form geopol channels, alongside DialogWorks and that of our Alexander M
Word is, Elenski is 'hitting the slopes' more & more these days as the walls close in.
Trump is continuing the rallies too.
British leadership has always had a hard on for Russia.
Yeah sure , that's why pre-war they were so keen on getting Russian oligarch money to Britain without asking any questions as to its origins...
Your talks are brilliant, thank you for all your hard work!
Very good analysis.
I have feeling mr Vance subscribed to Duran :)
Vance .... Pence.... As they say history doesn't repeat itself it rhymes !
Thanks for the information about Vance!
remember zelenski is not elected or can sign comtacts on behalf of ukraine
JD Vance wrote a book, "Hillibelly Elegy" (his memoir) in 2016, adapted to a very good movie of same name starred by Glenn Close, quite moving, which provides a good insight into his ideas, convictions and view of the world...
A hillibelly in Ohio is a humble steel factory worker... There were many of them.
Keep on keeping on Alexander,❤ your work brother thank you brother 🙏 peace
And Vance represents in some fashion a shift to India,
Trump already carries OH huge in 2016 and ‘20, which usually VP is selected from a needed state that wasn’t the case here
trump is fortifying the future so vance was a good pick as they share many beliefs and he is nurturing the future. trump is 78 yrs old , anything could happen and he only has one term in front of him. vance is the future.
Vance evil on vaccine..
Periot Rusija!🇷🇺❤️
I suggest people go back and watch vivafrei's interview with J.D. Vance with Robert Barnes also.
JDV Pontious Pilate.... Kissinger's statement... "to be a friend of the USA is fatal"... Q.E D.
3:45 Does JD Vance belong to the same faction as Trump?
He was a vocal opponent of Trump, and just the last year made a 180° turn and started praising Trump! Vance is a turncoat, an opportunist! For sure, a very helpful property in the DC arena! But is this character trait helpful for Trump? Is he Pence 2.0 ?
So nobody is allowed to change their minds?
Saul of Tarsus later became St Paul
What is the situation for Germany? Germany's generals do not seem enthusiastic about Ukraine! However UK seems extremely enthusiastic.
It's a big world, and Western Europe is only a small part of it. The United States has to deal with the rest of it, too.
Why has to deal with the rest? Are they the owners?