What's needed is a rivnut whose expansion zone isn't adjacent to the top of the fastener, but closer to the end so it expands with more wood above it to provide pullout resistance.
Nitonakrętka była stworzona do łączenia cienkich blach za pomocą połączeń śrubowych lecz bez dostępu z jednej strony i niemożności wykonania gwintu w zbyt cienkiej blasze o wystarczającej sile na rozciąganie takiego połączenia. Można nitonakrętkę stosować do innych materiałów ale trzeba liczyć się właśnie z mniejszą trwałością związaną z mniejszą wytrzymałością danego materiału niż metale. Ja używałem nitonakrętek w tworzywach sztucznych. By nie uszkadzać tworzywa i wzmacniać mocowanie dodatkowo dodawałem metalową podkładkę, co nie zawsze jest możliwe.
I had a real specific need a while back, and it did not need to be real strong and I ended up using some of these in a concrete wall. I drilled a hole just slightly larger than the rivet nut, coated the outside with an epoxy, inserted and compressed. Held like a champ.
@@ameunier41 I tried it without the epoxy at first, and after putting the screw in, it was not that hard to wiggle it out. With the epoxy, it would not budge.
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You can make the bulge on the nut happen further down into the wood by wrapping wire around the shaft near the top of the nut. That way when the screw compresses the nut, it can't do it right at the top -- the wrapped wire prevents that compression there.
I'm pretty sure if you drilled those holes deeper than you did it would not try pushing out while you were installing the part. If you watch it's pushing out because the bolts are bottoming out on the back side pushing the whole thing out before it can start to expand.
Try a prebulbed style? I often just epoxy rivnuts into wood after I've scratched a rough surface on the nut. It's good for making jigs, but if you want it to last, I always use the stainless steel EZ-Lok threaded inserts. Other threaded inserts tend to be too soft for most aspects. You can use the rivnuts in your video for things like aluminum or steel that is on a woods surface.
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Since rivnuts are brand specific... try a plus nut or split nut designed to flare around an inch back from the face. From experience, the nut must be matched to the material thickness.
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There are threaded screw inserts which are specifically designed for soft wood 😅 Might want to look into that if you work with this a lot. I have seen a type which is self-tapping as well, so you don't need to pre-drill holes first. Good stuff👌
That was my exact thinking. The manufacture could move the crumple zone a few mm toward the bottom of the nut and you have a fantastically stong connection.
You should try it with rivet nuts intended for thicker materials. It moves the “weakened” part farther from the surface. I bet it would work even better. This has me thinking how pop rivets would work!🤔
На мой взгляд на видео очень доступно продемонстрировано, что всё таки резьбовая заклёпка не очень удачный вариант для дерева. Гораздо лучше на эту роль подходят втулки с метрической резьбой внутри и крупной резьбой для дерева снаружи.
Sí, los mismos remaches en madera. También puedes poner arandelas en ambos lados. Aún mejor, si le pones rodamientos. Gracias 😊 Que tengas un buen día 👍🍀👌
Vc poderia fazer o furo para sair do outro lado e prender o parafuso pelo outro lado assim a resistência seria muito maior. pois exerceria a função de aperto muito melhor.
So what you're saying is if you must use in wood first drill plenty of relief behind it second don't tighten it all the way down and third never use for anything structural... got it thanks, very informative
같은 수종이라고 심재(안쪽)와 변재(바깥쪽)에 따라 다르고 건조율에 따라서도 다를 수 있습니다. 그런데 일반적으로는 레드파인은 소나무 종류라 소프트 우드쪽에 속하고 고무나무 멀바우 호두나무 등은 하드우드에 속합니다. 멀바우나 호두나무도 변재 쪽은 심재에 비해 연합니다. 어느 쪽을 사용하느냐에 따라 달라질 것 같습니다. 일반적으로나 제가 기계로 가공하면서 느끼는 목재의 강도는 삼나무
Ist doch selbstverständlich, daß die Niete nicht halten kann, wenn das ins Holz gebohrte Loch kürzer ist als die Schraube, die man anschließend in die Niete schrauben will!
Para resolver el problema en la madera, tan sencillo como poner una arandela para que la presión la absorba ésta y no se hunda. Así lo hago y me funcilna a la perfección.
Es la primer vez q lo veo, lamentablemente acá en Bogotá, Colombia no lo importan. Así como otros tipos de tuercas las armado entre paneles, módulos, bases etc.
Под дерево нужны другие заклепочные гайки - чтоб насечки предназначенные для деформации были расположены как можно дальше от прессшайбы, может даже в два ряда - если Вы хотите использовать эту технологию для дерева.
These rivnuts are very common used in the aviation industry. Thanks for sharing 👍
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Too commonly used IMO.
감사합니다. 당신같은 실험맨 덕분에 신문물을 접할 수 있습니다.
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Что выдумывать проще взять специальные ввёртки с резьбой снаружи и внутри, их садят на клей и они гораздо надёжнее
What's needed is a rivnut whose expansion zone isn't adjacent to the top of the fastener, but closer to the end so it expands with more wood above it to provide pullout resistance.
with fangs that bite into the wood
I was about to say the same thing!
...or fit the rivnut on to the back of the piece so that the bolt is pulling it into the piece, not out of it.
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Thanks for doing this so we don't have to!
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Very nice, you could drill through the wood and use it as a blind nut. Really strong. I will have to include this in my list of Fasteners. Thank you
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Nitonakrętka była stworzona do łączenia cienkich blach za pomocą połączeń śrubowych lecz bez dostępu z jednej strony i niemożności wykonania gwintu w zbyt cienkiej blasze o wystarczającej sile na rozciąganie takiego połączenia. Można nitonakrętkę stosować do innych materiałów ale trzeba liczyć się właśnie z mniejszą trwałością związaną z mniejszą wytrzymałością danego materiału niż metale. Ja używałem nitonakrętek w tworzywach sztucznych. By nie uszkadzać tworzywa i wzmacniać mocowanie dodatkowo dodawałem metalową podkładkę, co nie zawsze jest możliwe.
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I had a real specific need a while back, and it did not need to be real strong and I ended up using some of these in a concrete wall. I drilled a hole just slightly larger than the rivet nut, coated the outside with an epoxy, inserted and compressed. Held like a champ.
Thank you 😊 Have a nice time 🍀
I don't see why they wouldn't work in concrete, even without the epoxy.
@@ameunier41 I tried it without the epoxy at first, and after putting the screw in, it was not that hard to wiggle it out. With the epoxy, it would not budge.
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테스트에 굿~입니다. ^^
니벳너트~용도가 다양하군요
감사합니다. 목재에 실사용에는 에폭시 본드를 첨부하는 것이 좋을 듯 합니다.^^
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Try the longer ones meant for thicker plates. Crimple zone is further down the pop nut
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I was thinking similar. And if you want to do it to thin plywood, use a washer on the back.
@@BenNawrath that's a clever idea.
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You can make the bulge on the nut happen further down into the wood by wrapping wire around the shaft near the top of the nut. That way when the screw compresses the nut, it can't do it right at the top -- the wrapped wire prevents that compression there.
I'm pretty sure if you drilled those holes deeper than you did it would not try pushing out while you were installing the part. If you watch it's pushing out because the bolts are bottoming out on the back side pushing the whole thing out before it can start to expand.
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Try a prebulbed style?
I often just epoxy rivnuts into wood after I've scratched a rough surface on the nut. It's good for making jigs, but if you want it to last, I always use the stainless steel EZ-Lok threaded inserts. Other threaded inserts tend to be too soft for most aspects.
You can use the rivnuts in your video for things like aluminum or steel that is on a woods surface.
Put the rivnut in from the back (if possible) and the flange will pull against it instead of pulling out the weaker expanded part.
Excelente tutorial maestro, cómo siempre unas ideas peculiares, gracias por compartir sus conocimientos y experiencias, un saludo cordial y por supuesto un gran like desde Narón (Galicia)👌🤓
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영상 잘 봤습니다!! 또 오겠습니다!!
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Amazing work ❣️
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Have a great day 😊
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Gracias por su trabajo, tiempo y dedicación. Muy útil y práctica la tuerca.
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Trial n error new creation. Craft Level Up. Very nice. 👏🤙
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목공용으로는 애매하다는 생각이 드는군요. 한번 세게 쪼이면 터저버리니..
참고되는 좋은 영상입니다
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Exelente video 😀👍gracias
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Since rivnuts are brand specific... try a plus nut or split nut designed to flare around an inch back from the face. From experience, the nut must be matched to the material thickness.
Nice video. Thank you!
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I’m surprised it works although I wouldn’t trust it, they make wood treaded inserts for machine screws. I did like the video!😊
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멋진 아이디어! 감사합니다 ^^
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A really useful test. Thank you.
Not something I would have thought of doing, but, yes it works, with appropriate guidelines.
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좋네요! 리벳너트 처음 알았어요
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Slt c est une excellente découverte j avais pas pensé à cette méthode, car il existe des chevilles pour le bois mais !!! Et sa a l'air de bien fonctionner p 👍👍👍👍
Merci. 💚 passe une bonne journée 😄🍀
There are threaded screw inserts which are specifically designed for soft wood 😅 Might want to look into that if you work with this a lot. I have seen a type which is self-tapping as well, so you don't need to pre-drill holes first. Good stuff👌
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Если винтовые вставки отсутствуют, то это будет заменой. Хотя и временной. 👍🏼
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A modified version, with the rugged bending part moved a little bit more towards the end would be perfectly suitable for this application.
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That was my exact thinking. The manufacture could move the crumple zone a few mm toward the bottom of the nut and you have a fantastically stong connection.
Yup. Same thought. Since I know they don't make it that way I thought about grinding the rivet crimping spot further toward the end.
목재용으로 쓰면 안되는거라 안쓰겠지만 궁금하긴 했습니다. 실험 감사합니다.
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Hay quá! Cám ơn đã chia sẻ
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목공에 관심있는 일인입니다
너트 만드는 회사에 건의를 하면 안될까요?
주름 부분을 머리에 바짝 붙여서 하지말고 목공용으로 중간쯤에 주름을 만들어 달라고. 그러면 완전 목공용으로 쓸 수 있을 듯합니다~~♡♡
네~ 저도 그런 생각을 했습미다. ^^ 감사합니다 😊😊 좋은 하루 되세요 🍀
Buenos días.
Buen video.
Sería posible saber donde adquirió el útil para las tuercas ?.
Muchas gracias
Lo compré en Corea, pero creo que también podría venderse en Amazon. búsqueda de costillas. Gracias 😊 Que tengas un buen día 👍🍀👌
При тесте на отрыв. Нужно учесть что болт упирается в древесину и вытаскивает основание. А нужно было тогда просверлить глубже отверстия под болт.
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Good test. I'll stick to threaded inserts
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You should try it with rivet nuts intended for thicker materials. It moves the “weakened” part farther from the surface. I bet it would work even better. This has me thinking how pop rivets would work!🤔
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여러 작업에 사용될 부품 같네요. 저도 언젠가 마음껏 사용해볼 날이 오기를 😊
네~ 목재 사용 시에는 에폭시 본드를 바르면 효과는 확실할 것 같습니다. 감사합니다 😊😊 좋은 주말 되세요 🍀
Muito bom valeu muito obrigado!!!.
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A washer on the back for the thin ply?
Good idea 👍
На мой взгляд на видео очень доступно продемонстрировано, что всё таки резьбовая заклёпка не очень удачный вариант для дерева. Гораздо лучше на эту роль подходят втулки с метрической резьбой внутри и крупной резьбой для дерева снаружи.
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А ещё очевидно что кирзовые сапоги не сильно подходят для игры в футбол гораздо удобнее играть в кроссовках бутсах или кедах
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excellent👍
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우그러지는 부분이 중간쯤에 있는 제품이 있으면 목제용으로 좋을 것 같단 생각이...
네 저도 같은 생각입니다~~👍🤜🤛🍀
Rebite na madeira também seria a mesma coisa?
E se colocasse uma arruela em cada lado, será que funciona?
Sí, los mismos remaches en madera. También puedes poner arandelas en ambos lados. Aún mejor, si le pones rodamientos. Gracias 😊 Que tengas un buen día 👍🍀👌
목재나 프라스틱용 너트리벳이 따로있음
I absolutely love riv-nuts. It's niche thing but once you have a tool and bag of them, you find uses.
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음 잘 뽑히지 않는거 같아서 신중히 사용해야 겠네요!!
네 한번 체결 후에는 착탈은 포기해야 될 거 같습니다. 감사합니다 😊😊 좋은 하루 되세요 🍀
What about just under sizing the hole and threading directly into the hard wood?
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Great idea, but not sure if it’s better than using threaded inserts. Any thoughts, anyone?
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안녕하세요. 검은별님
이런 방식으로 목재에 쓰는 너트 중
혹시 목재피스에 맞는 직경의 너트는 뭐라고 부르나요? 꼭 알고 싶습니다..
안녕하세요… 이해를 잘 못 했어요. ㅜㅜ
혹시 번데기 너트를 말씀하시는 건지요? 그려서 주실 수 있음 시간나실 때 메일로 주세요.
This is wood expansion anchors. The same as in concrete - KB-TZ2 and many other manufactured by HILTI and Simpson.
Vc poderia fazer o furo para sair do outro lado e prender o parafuso pelo outro lado assim a resistência seria muito maior. pois exerceria a função de aperto muito melhor.
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Concordo com a sua lógica, mas pergunto: qual a vantagem de usar isso no lugar de uma porca com arruela?
Rivnuts plus a dab of epoxy would be very solid.
8mm로 테스트 하신거죠?
네 맞습니다~~^^
So what you're saying is if you must use in wood first drill plenty of relief behind it second don't tighten it all the way down and third never use for anything structural... got it thanks, very informative
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А есть же специальные для дерева с шариком внутри
If you use these a lot I would recommend lubricating the compression bolt. It will make it last much longer.
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Sobre madera. Con un arandela de cada lados. Queda muy firme..
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Put a few drops of oil on the thrust washer and bolt threads, it will go easier and last a lot longer
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Мне понравилось.
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질문입니다.
제가 아는 나무공방서 레드파인이 단단하다며 그거 쓰던데요.
소프트우드에 속합니까?
인터넷서는 멀바우가 무르다 적혀 있기에 가구 고를때 멀바우 제외하고 레드파인 검색합니다. 오디오 장식장도 멀바우는 쳐다보지도 않았어요.
같은 수종이라고 심재(안쪽)와 변재(바깥쪽)에 따라 다르고 건조율에 따라서도 다를 수 있습니다. 그런데 일반적으로는 레드파인은 소나무 종류라 소프트 우드쪽에 속하고 고무나무 멀바우 호두나무 등은 하드우드에 속합니다. 멀바우나 호두나무도 변재 쪽은 심재에 비해 연합니다. 어느 쪽을 사용하느냐에 따라 달라질 것 같습니다. 일반적으로나 제가 기계로 가공하면서 느끼는 목재의 강도는 삼나무
@@BStarCrafts 답변 감사합니다. 인터넷이라는게 보다 정확한 정보여야 되는데 그렇지 못한 경우도 있습니다. 문외한인 제 경우 그것만으로는 판단이 어렵습니다! 공부가 필요합니다!
you should try a plus nut for deeper holes
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Muito bom.
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Круто мы все поняли без слов 😂👍спс за труд.
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@@kkkiiirrraaann у меня нет перевода 😂
Ist doch selbstverständlich, daß die Niete nicht halten kann, wenn das ins Holz gebohrte Loch kürzer ist als die Schraube, die man anschließend in die Niete schrauben will!
Try torquing them down to expand but not all the way they rip the wood away to nothing
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Прям капитан-очевидность...
Para resolver el problema en la madera, tan sencillo como poner una arandela para que la presión la absorba ésta y no se hunda. Así lo hago y me funcilna a la perfección.
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I like..
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Es la primer vez q lo veo, lamentablemente acá en Bogotá, Colombia no lo importan. Así como otros tipos de tuercas las armado entre paneles, módulos, bases etc.
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What is Rubber wood?
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좋은 생각이네요 라고 하며 보면서 드는 생각이 목재전용으로 저 주름 부위가 끝이 아닌 중간쯤 있는 것이라면 다양한 목재에충분히 활용하겠다 싶어지네요.
네~ 맞습니다. 활용하려면 강력한 접착제를 먼저 넣은 후 조이면 괜찮을 듯 합니다. 🍀😊🛠️
For hardwoods you can use a tap & die. No ongoing cost of RivNuts
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Под дерево нужны другие заклепочные гайки - чтоб насечки предназначенные для деформации были расположены как можно дальше от прессшайбы, может даже в два ряда - если Вы хотите использовать эту технологию для дерева.
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팝너트?
네 팝너트 맞습니다. 리브너트, 리벳너트라고도ㅠ하고요.
Onde comprar???
Comprei na Coréia, mas acho que provavelmente será vendido na Amazon também. Pesquisar por rivnut
어디 사고 수 있습니까? 다이소에 없어요...
인터넷에 팝너트로 검색하면 나올거예요….
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Needed different rivet
Where possible the nutsert can be installed behind , with a thro hole in the wood to fasten from the opposite end. Will be more robust.
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I use this nuts with super glue, little bit less hole put glue and press nut with hummer.
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Почему не сделать так, что бы внутренняя втулка сплющивалась в середине, а не скраю, намного прочнее был бы узел
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резьбовая заклёпка изначально сделана для крепления в листовом металле. именно поэтому деформируемая часть спроектирована так
They would be great in hand wood.
Manufacturer needs to make some for wood alone. Wrinkle deeper
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those are not rivets ,,, they are rivinuts ,,, totally different thing.
Guarda che esistono già le bussole in zamak o ottone da applicare nel legno con la filettatura interna metrica.
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Why this hemorrhoids? There are also special furniture threaded bushings
Just use threaded inserts.
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