In the age of the manual focus film SLR camera , they all came with a 50mm (or thereabouts) lens, and I am convinced that these lenses were so good because that is what was on the front when Amateur Photographer and Practical Photography etc obtained cameras to test. If the results looked good then people would be encouraged to go out and buy into that system. I don't think I have come across a standard 50, 55 or 58mm lens that didn't impress. I just bought a Vivitar 28mm 2.8 for my Canon A-1 and impressions from my first roll are that it gives good looking photos, though I'm sure some lens forum member would point out the corners aren't very sharp. I tend to avoid putting important stuff in the corners of my shots anyway. Great review! Keith
These days people tend to think that Tessar's can't be good because they have only a few elements, typically 4. However I started my career before multicoating, and back then we regarded smaller element counts to be advantageous because it usually meant higher contrast. I have an Ektar Tessar on my old Speed Graphic from 1962. An unsung lens but is one of the best Tessars I have used is the lens in the Kodak Pocket Instamatic 50 and 60 from 1972. Because the 110 format was so small Kodak spared no expense with their top tier 110 camera to eek the most possible sharpness out of the small format. They called it a fast f2.7 coupled rangefinder Ektar on the 60, and same lens, but without the rangefinder on the 50, and while Kodak refused to confirm or deny, the lenses are generally believed to be made for Kodak by Rodenstock in Germany because Rodenstock usually made the best Kodak lenses. Sometimes good things come in unexpected places. Another great Tessar is the f2.8 lens on the Sony X3000 action camera where the tiny sensor size demands a high resolving power lens. While these lenses are not interchangeable lenses, they do demonstrate that Tessar's are capable of extraordinary resolving power, and should never be looked down upon because of small element counts. Tessar can be a brilliant lens design.
if you are sensitive to color rendition of vintage lenses, you will notice that the less element the design has, the more color flavor it will render. for instant, the anastigmat or triplet design from 1930’s lens is significant better than tessar or double gauss or coated lens in later age. flickr has tons of vintage lens generated images with modern sensor, you can find original color without post color processing samples.
Maybe it was branded under both names. Just speculating. I believe Pentacon was the name of the company controlling all of the DDR camera and lens industry, with various brands including Carl Zeiss Jena.
Enjoyed that. Big fan of the Industars. I've never heard you mention the Industar 69 28mm f2.8. It does need some minor adjustment to focus to infinity, but that's easily done. It's an absolute pancake, and needing only an M39 mount adapter lends itself very well for use as an in the pocket walk around lens with a compact camera like the Sony A5000 or 6000.
I bought a Helios 44M on a "broken" Zenit EM with the original leather case and strap and a flash. The flash works, the camera was just jammed and the lens works perfectly... 50€ wasn't so bad after all
The Helios 44 can be a great lens, but it suffers from inconsistent QC as under the Soviet economic model, quantity produced trumped quality. It was also made in different locations over the years and the quality varied significantly between different factories.
My two cents on Tessars, unless you really like the look and feel of one, I think there's little reason to get one for any SLR system, where the double Gauss 58-50mm F/2-1.4 lenses are so abundant, provide a faster aperture/thinner depth of field if needed, and better resolution. Tessars are a great choice when you want to deliver good to very good image quality for a low cost, there's a reason why they're one of the most successful lens types ever made, but for regular photographic use on interchangeable lens cameras there almost always are better options out there that often cost the same or less. Definitely a +1 from me on the Takumar lenses, they are most beautifully made. If you are looking to buy a camera with a fixed lens Tessar type, try to get an F/3.5. From what I understand, the F/2.8 Tessars that became dominant in the second half of the last century are a bit overstretched and hail from a time where more weight was put on a bright aperture rather than image quality, for 1) marketing reasons, 2) having a brighter viewfinder before the advent of autofocus and bright, laser-etched screens, and 3) making use of the slow speed film available. There also are F/3.5 Tessars for M42, but these are earlier than the F/2.8 variants, and I'm not sure if the image improvement gained from the slower F-stop isn't outpaced by improvements in lens design, glass types and coatings you see in the later F/2.8 Tessars.
Hey Nigel, I've recently got into vintage lenses and enjoyed quite a few videos. You often mention distinct colour profiles of certain lens manufacturers (like the blueish colours of Konica or "Pentax colours") and there are also well known optical profiles like the famous "Zeiss 3D pop". I couldn't really find an overview or comparison of different colour/optical profiles and lack the collection to compare them myself. Would you mind doing one?
Nice video review... I've the Takumar 50mmf1.4 and it's gorgeous.. obviously I want more lenses like some Voiglander..but Do you know what?? .. Vintage lenses can cure GAS
Love my Soligor 28/2.8. Of course, Soligor didn’t actually manufacture it. In fact several different companies made this lens over the years. Mine is a 1973 version, manufactured by Tokina. Also have a lovely Hanimex 35/2.8, which, like all Hanimex lenses, is a rebadged lens made by an actual Japanese manufacturer. In fact I have a Denubigon 35/2.8 (I know, I had never heard of them before I saw the lens on eBay) which is exactly the same as the Hanimex. Both the Soli and Hani render beautifully on my Nikon Z7ii
It’s probably too late now but Mr Cad has a huge choice and is always worth looking round. Nicholas Cameras in Camden has a lot but I have never bought there and have heard mixed reviews. Also in Camden there is the Camera Hut, which is in the market and confusingly the market at Brick Lane has the Vintage Camera Hut plus another stall whose name escapes me. Sunday 19th May will be the huge Photographica show which is full of vintage stuff and bargains can be had. Aperture UK is a lovely shop but high end, as is the Leica specialist Red Dot cameras. There are a couple of shops near the British museum, Camera City and The Classic Camera, the latter is mostly high end.
Great video as always but why does everyone have an obsession with sharpness? All lenses are sharp - you just need to understand their limits and know how to use them.
@@hazard3020 the way it should be - you don't want the edges to be sharp. You want the viewers attention on the subject. You're a professional photographer then?
Early Miranda lenses were. However, the later 1980s models which Nigel uses, are made by Cosina. I've disassembled several and the Miranda and Cosina are identical in design.
The Hanimex 135mm f2.8 is indeed fantastic. Color fringing is strong but easy to correct. I got mine for 30 bucks. What a bargain.
In the age of the manual focus film SLR camera , they all came with a 50mm (or thereabouts) lens, and I am convinced that these lenses were so good because that is what was on the front when Amateur Photographer and Practical Photography etc obtained cameras to test. If the results looked good then people would be encouraged to go out and buy into that system. I don't think I have come across a standard 50, 55 or 58mm lens that didn't impress. I just bought a Vivitar 28mm 2.8 for my Canon A-1 and impressions from my first roll are that it gives good looking photos, though I'm sure some lens forum member would point out the corners aren't very sharp. I tend to avoid putting important stuff in the corners of my shots anyway. Great review! Keith
Great video Nigel. I think thay the Takumar f2 is the pick of that bunch.
These days people tend to think that Tessar's can't be good because they have only a few elements, typically 4. However I started my career before multicoating, and back then we regarded smaller element counts to be advantageous because it usually meant higher contrast. I have an Ektar Tessar on my old Speed Graphic from 1962.
An unsung lens but is one of the best Tessars I have used is the lens in the Kodak Pocket Instamatic 50 and 60 from 1972. Because the 110 format was so small Kodak spared no expense with their top tier 110 camera to eek the most possible sharpness out of the small format. They called it a fast f2.7 coupled rangefinder Ektar on the 60, and same lens, but without the rangefinder on the 50, and while Kodak refused to confirm or deny, the lenses are generally believed to be made for Kodak by Rodenstock in Germany because Rodenstock usually made the best Kodak lenses. Sometimes good things come in unexpected places.
Another great Tessar is the f2.8 lens on the Sony X3000 action camera where the tiny sensor size demands a high resolving power lens.
While these lenses are not interchangeable lenses, they do demonstrate that Tessar's are capable of extraordinary resolving power, and should never be looked down upon because of small element counts.
Tessar can be a brilliant lens design.
if you are sensitive to color rendition of vintage lenses, you will notice that the less element the design has, the more color flavor it will render. for instant, the anastigmat or triplet design from 1930’s lens is significant better than tessar or double gauss or coated lens in later age. flickr has tons of vintage lens generated images with modern sensor, you can find original color without post color processing samples.
Oreston became the Pentacon*, not Practika. I have the Zeiss and it's beautiful. If you're at closest focus you get tons of blur at 2.8
Maybe it was branded under both names. Just speculating. I believe Pentacon was the name of the company controlling all of the DDR camera and lens industry, with various brands including Carl Zeiss Jena.
Yes - the Zeiss is fantastic. Mine is as sharp as anything.
@@caw25sha not Zeiss... but they took over the production of MOG lenses in (I believe) 1978
@@philipjewer5275 at 5.6 and 8 its output is unbelievable
Enjoyed that. Big fan of the Industars. I've never heard you mention the Industar 69 28mm f2.8. It does need some minor adjustment to focus to infinity, but that's easily done. It's an absolute pancake, and needing only an M39 mount adapter lends itself very well for use as an in the pocket walk around lens with a compact camera like the Sony A5000 or 6000.
I bought a Helios 44M on a "broken" Zenit EM with the original leather case and strap and a flash. The flash works, the camera was just jammed and the lens works perfectly... 50€ wasn't so bad after all
The Helios 44 can be a great lens, but it suffers from inconsistent QC as under the Soviet economic model, quantity produced trumped quality. It was also made in different locations over the years and the quality varied significantly between different factories.
nice video mate.. just exactly what im looking for.. will they fit on fuji x lens
My two cents on Tessars, unless you really like the look and feel of one, I think there's little reason to get one for any SLR system, where the double Gauss 58-50mm F/2-1.4 lenses are so abundant, provide a faster aperture/thinner depth of field if needed, and better resolution.
Tessars are a great choice when you want to deliver good to very good image quality for a low cost, there's a reason why they're one of the most successful lens types ever made, but for regular photographic use on interchangeable lens cameras there almost always are better options out there that often cost the same or less.
Definitely a +1 from me on the Takumar lenses, they are most beautifully made.
If you are looking to buy a camera with a fixed lens Tessar type, try to get an F/3.5. From what I understand, the F/2.8 Tessars that became dominant in the second half of the last century are a bit overstretched and hail from a time where more weight was put on a bright aperture rather than image quality, for 1) marketing reasons, 2) having a brighter viewfinder before the advent of autofocus and bright, laser-etched screens, and 3) making use of the slow speed film available.
There also are F/3.5 Tessars for M42, but these are earlier than the F/2.8 variants, and I'm not sure if the image improvement gained from the slower F-stop isn't outpaced by improvements in lens design, glass types and coatings you see in the later F/2.8 Tessars.
Hey Nigel, I've recently got into vintage lenses and enjoyed quite a few videos. You often mention distinct colour profiles of certain lens manufacturers (like the blueish colours of Konica or "Pentax colours") and there are also well known optical profiles like the famous "Zeiss 3D pop". I couldn't really find an overview or comparison of different colour/optical profiles and lack the collection to compare them myself. Would you mind doing one?
Miranda lenses were most likely made by Soligor. The ones I have are extremely good.
Nice video review... I've the Takumar 50mmf1.4 and it's gorgeous.. obviously I want more lenses like some Voiglander..but Do you know what?? .. Vintage lenses can cure GAS
Love my Soligor 28/2.8. Of course, Soligor didn’t actually manufacture it. In fact several different companies made this lens over the years. Mine is a 1973 version, manufactured by Tokina. Also have a lovely Hanimex 35/2.8, which, like all Hanimex lenses, is a rebadged lens made by an actual Japanese manufacturer. In fact I have a Denubigon 35/2.8 (I know, I had never heard of them before I saw the lens on eBay) which is exactly the same as the Hanimex. Both the Soli and Hani render beautifully on my Nikon Z7ii
always looking for new lenses to try, thank you for the video
The SLR, both m39 and m42, version of the Jupiter 11 will focus down to 1.4m ☝🏻
9:02 -- _"Oh ... v-twin."_ Hahaha!
Thank you for these cheap lenses! I love cheap lenses very much. That was informative and interesting. Thank you!
Prices are up because certain RUclipsrs are always going on about how great they are! 😂
Hi ! Really enjoy your videos, going to London next week, is there a market to go and maybe find som lenses ?
All the best , Goran from Sweden
Not a market, but a good shop for secondhand is London Camera Exchange in The Strand. Portobello market has cameras and lenses but seem overpriced.
Okey ! Thank's will go there on my walk's 😊
It’s probably too late now but Mr Cad has a huge choice and is always worth looking round. Nicholas Cameras in Camden has a lot but I have never bought there and have heard mixed reviews. Also in Camden there is the Camera Hut, which is in the market and confusingly the market at Brick Lane has the Vintage Camera Hut plus another stall whose name escapes me. Sunday 19th May will be the huge Photographica show which is full of vintage stuff and bargains can be had. Aperture UK is a lovely shop but high end, as is the Leica specialist Red Dot cameras. There are a couple of shops near the British museum, Camera City and The Classic Camera, the latter is mostly high end.
How can you tell if a lens is a Tessar design if it's not a Carl Zeiss and therefore not named as such?
A Tessar design has four elements. There will be more to it than that but that's the fundamentals.
Great video as always but why does everyone have an obsession with sharpness? All lenses are sharp - you just need to understand their limits and know how to use them.
on 42mp full frame, i need central areas to be very sharp at f8 and a tad less at f4. At the edges i dont mind at all ....
@@hazard3020 the way it should be - you don't want the edges to be sharp. You want the viewers attention on the subject. You're a professional photographer then?
just ordered an Industar 61, coming from Ukraine
Nice
all that lenses does nt cost beetwen 20 to 40 pounds anymore
Are they cheap or are they just affordable.
Miranda lenses are made by its parent company called "Soligor".
Early Miranda lenses were. However, the later 1980s models which Nigel uses, are made by Cosina. I've disassembled several and the Miranda and Cosina are identical in design.
“Made” is doing a lot of work there when it comes to Soligor!
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