Frank Luntz: We Could Have A Situation Of 2020 All Over Again
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2022
- Political strategist and pollster Frank Luntz discusses results from new polling where a majority say politicians and people running for office is a greater problem than the current election system.
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Frank Luntz: We Could Have A Situation Of 2020 All Over Again
I am so proud of Joe it is about time that he called him out on that b*******
Thank you Joe for calling out this republican implant for his false equivalency.
Frank Luntz is a complete POLITICAL HACK !!!
@Lugosi It didn't take a complete novel to tell me you're a brain dead bigot. You could have just stated it out right.
@Lugosi I suspect he MIGHT be wearing a hairpiece. 😀
Woke Democrats are the greatest threat to Western civilization.
@@GeorgeEugeneBarrett So you're saying being an anti bigot our biggest threat to democracy. Go back to the 1800s where you belong.
Exactly. All of our children are watching! We seem to hold our children to a higher standard of responsibility and communication and conflict management than we hold adults. 🤷🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🙏🏾🙌🏾
If you are exposing your children to this fake uninformative truth manipulation,you need a visit from D.O.C.P.S.(Department of child protective svcs.)
Indeed we do we bring them up to do good and what is right in life on a whole
Many of my students (college age) give me hope for the future. If not for them, I'd probably just give up. I can't believe we're still fighting the same battles we were fighting in the '60's.
@@sweetpea3153 Sweet Pea, the religious right is still fighting the same battles of over 2000 years ago.
Stupid children
We will never have a country of, by and for the people without campaign finance reform.
You could have stopped after the word people.
We need reforms, especially on the amount of outrageous amounts of monied spent on elections!! That money could solve so many of our problems. Also we need to limit how long politicians can be in office. They should serve for two terms and be done and go back to regular jobs!! We also should make sure politicians do not have their own private health care or retirement. They should have Medicare and social security like all the rest of Americans!!!
It’s not “Both Sides”. Thank you Joe.
ya it is. keep demonizing fellow Americans and we WILL have civil war
@@dragonfox2.058 justice & truth must be upheld. While there can be discussions falls equivalencies are just lies. We do need to not demonize what shouldn’t be, I agree. When truth comes out, it’s often best to keep our mouths shut when we’ve been right. Nobody likes to hear “I told you so.” It blocks reasoning.
@@twinkletoes1507 YES. We have to welcome anyone coming out of that trumpy fog with open arms.
It makes for a stronger Union.
@@twinkletoes1507 I want to rub their noses in their stupidity and say I told you so, they have no reasoning to block it won't matter.
@@jimbob3030 yeah, it feels that way sometimes-quite a bit now.
Good for Joe for calling out the false equivalency
Democrats seem to hate the truth about their actions about 1988,2000,2004 and ,2016 election
I agree
@Jacob Yates How do you know it hasn't, Professor? 😅
@@supastratt you need to go out to the store and gas station!
@@ericklaus3972 what's the global economy gotta do with Biden? 🤔🤔🤔
If I recall Frank contributed greatly for over a decade to the establishment of dogmatic idiocy in this country. Well I'm kind of thankful to see that he finally recognizes what he helped bring about
@Linda Wade, yep and he is Kevin Mccarthy' roommate....he's has been renting him a "room" for years...
you're absolutely right mam.
@@cmt635 wow! Really I didn’t know this. So he’s one of Them . 😡
Faithful Republican people aren't the enemy of the people. Kinzinger, Liz Cheney etc. They're all republicans trying to defend the spirit of democracy in America. And so is Luntz in a less important role. Democrats and Republicans used to get along fine. Trumpism destroyed all of that and Luntz has recognized that again and again, and today identifies as an Independent. Don't tell me you think the Republicans that voted for Bush has the same opinions today as then. A lot of them don't. Why? Because of Trump and his constant rhetoric about disputing facts.
Yes arent we lucky. Now we have record illegal immigrants, record crime , record gas prices , record inflation. , a possibility of an armageddon, a united country that joe healed, a recession and a government that is doing so much to help the homeless and the middle class ……,,get poorer.
wholly moly... i can't believe I'm fully agreeing with Joe... wow. I'm a pretty deep lefty on most things, so glad to see someone call out Frank's BS and moral equivalency.
Stop trying to BOTH SIDES everything. Thanks Joe for arguing the legitimate point
Democrats cheat to win, thats the point.
@@douglasreagan4979 Biggest sleeve ball ever ( Trump) tried his best to cheat. He won’t dare say different in court we’re it counts lol
The difference between 2016 and 2020? The democrats were allowed to have their conspiracy theory of Russia/Trump collusion investigated for three years, whereas the supposed Republican conspiracy theory of 2020 election rigging wasn't investigated for three seconds. That'll change when the Republicans take over Congress and they can start by looking into the 51 state and defense department officials who supposedly gave the "expert" opinion that the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian hoax. You better believe them covering up for Biden family corruption by claiming it was actually a Russian-Trump administration hoax affected the 2020 election when they released their opinion in October, 2020.
@@vincewillenbring9985 1)Nobody I mean Nobody cares about Hunter Biden
2) Russia was no hoax
3) I wouldn’t be so sure you guys are going to win the house
@@truefacts404 1) That may be true that no one cares about Hunter Biden (including his dad and step-mom), but there are people like me who care about his laptop because of the Biden family corruption it documents, 2) If you're saying Russia-Trump collusion in the 2016 election wasn't a hoax, then are you saying the 2016 election was illegitimate? (Careful, the new standard is you can't question an election's results without being in favor of overthrowing democracy) 3) You have two plus weeks to prepare for what's going to be a difficult night for you.
good job Joe for calling the guy out!!!
Exactly! Most people who run for office continue to lie out of selfish greed 😞
Politics is a dirty game
Obama never lied!
@@hamm24 a rare man in politics with good intentions 👍
Lol. Perfect example is Pelosi and Biden.
Good for you Joe!
It’s disgusting how much Donald Trump loves America and it’s citizens so much! 😡
@@warpathy6511 U have a 10 month old politically illiterate troll account with no content. Lol ❄️🤣👌❄️🌎❄️
I agree 💙👍
@@warpathy6511 I wish he did.
@@janeenharris3074 I wish Warpathy di too.
Justice is not malice. Truth is not Malice.
Indeed not for the Repubs they think it is it seems
It's because they are not enforcing laws that are being broken. Speed it up Garland!
Amen Amen🙏💛
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you Joe & Mika!!! For pushing back! Very real. This brought me to tears.
@shane3214 🙄 OBVIOUSLY SCARED YOU TO ASKING A STUPID QUESTION TROLL EM.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The message that we have to send to the younger generation is that you cannot ACCEPT lies and deceit.
The left “human rights!
The right “down with democracy!”
See the same thing! 😅
Plato in his book titled the "Republic" asserted that Democracy was one step away from Tyranny. Did he get it right🤔🤔He stated that all it takes is 1 demagogue to destroy the system....
I hope Luntz's students check his career and see the role he played in reaching the current situation..
He says he doesn't want a civil war. He just wants those of us who disagree with his ideology to just sit down an be quiet. This guy has a memory of a goldfish, on purpose.
Exactly. Frank Lutz and the types like him helped craft this Republican party in unbridled spin and lies for decades. He thought it was a game. Some of us knew it was going to end up in a tragedy for this country's democracy
He is responsible for turning the electorate’s brains into mush By gaslighting with misleading language.
Yeah and what legitimate school would send students to learn from this hack ! I love it when the arsonist tells everyone not to play with matches .
Social media is no help for this situation at all. Contrary to all the BS we've heard over the years....
Call if for what it is Joe. Thank you!
The economic history of the past 7 administrations should help people make their decisions. If Repubs take control, get ready for a Liz Truss type of budget proposal and we know how that worked out for England!!
We have just witnessed how democrats took 1.4% inflation to over 9%.
That's pretty mordant considering the economics under Democrat leadership have historically suffered major losses. Clinton, Obama, and now Biden.
CRY HARDER.
@@emperoraxel ?? obama pulled us out a recession and trump set us up for one ya darn tool
My Taxes didn't go down a dime w/Chump Tax Cuts of 2018, but I did Lose my job b/c of his Covid mis-management... Oh, and BTW... like 1 million people died... Talk about loss of memory on half the ppl,
That guy is a republican. No point in talking to him.
Was he around on the 6th?
Ummmm
Democratssupporttranschildren
Maureen
@@williamh5646 and republicans support ending our democracy if it keeps them in power. Ever heard of circumcision? That is genital mutilation.
Oh please Frank! In 2004 and 2016 there were obviously voices but what is going on today is incomparable.
EXACTLY JoJo!!!
I don't remember Democrats storming the Capitol.
I understand your desire to make this a both sides thing, because then conservatives won't feel they're the only ones being criticized. The problem is while both sides may be guilty of certain behaviors, Republicans behavior is at the extreme end of the scale. It's like saying a harmless lie to save someone's feelings is the same as a lie to cheat a pensioner of their life savings.
Were our founding fathers extremists in your opinion too? It’s disgusting how much Donald Trump loves America and it’s citizens so much! 😡
Did Republicans take the street screaming not my president in 2020? Or violently attack voters during the inauguration? I must have missed that
🎯 Bingo!
Preach.. say it loud for the people in the back much respect to you💛
Can't make this both sides because the intelligent people know this is just lies and misinformation.
*Could? They've already said they are going to do that again.*
Yep, and the Republicans are going to steal our Social Security we pay for with their massive kleptocratic schemes.
Imagine how good things would be if that 72% of the people voted the Depraved RepubliCons out of office. It would be great if they were expelled from office for treason and sedition!
Yes with no qualms about it at all 😳
@@charlesasmith7836 none, whatsoever. And they won't leave it at the federal level; they will violate the constitutions of their own states, and so on down the ballot. Even city elections will be rife with the corruption of Republicans using power of dark money to remove rightfully-elected candidates and replace them with their sycophants.
Not just Republicans ? What planet is this joker from ?
Luntz on election denial:
"It's not just Republican... ahhhhh" - Frank Lutz.
Election denial is 99.9% Republicans doing, quit trying to paint a false equivalency, Frank.
So saying that Russia helped elect Donald Trump in 2016 and calling him an illegitimate President isn't being an election denier, or Stacy Abrams saying that the election was stolen from her in 2018.
@@timothykozlowski2945 Some people claims are true, some are false. Bush stole his election too with the help of the florida supreme court, that's not an opinion and it's not being an election denier it's just a fact. The electoral college itself thwarts democracy, that's also just a fact.
@@jimbob3030 Oh look, it's another one of those liberal election deniers. Strange that they could question the outcome of an election and Republicans can't.
@@timothykozlowski2945 You just can't grasp the concept of what evidence supports and what evidence doesn't support, can you?
Do you know mike pillow and the pillow biters have been promising all this evidence for years and never delivered because it doesn't exist?
There is evidence bush stole his election, we all saw it happen out in the open, there is no evidence for your nonsense or you would have seen it already.
@@jimbob3030 I haven't spent one second listening to the My Pillow Guy. And you just don't understand that Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, and Stacy Abrams have said that their elections were stolen from them. That's being an election denier.
I understand and appreciate what Frank is saying but that ship has sailed. The damage is done.
Frank Luntz is like the arsonist in the volunteer fire brigade.
WELL SAID, Dear Joe!!!!
Please carefully explain to those who may need it what "MALICE" is. I fear, unfortunately, this is necessary.
The government in Britain did not fall. The PM resigned and will be replaced shortly. An example of the parliamentary system working well.
That is true. And, the conservative Tories took them out of the EU. I think that was a huge mistake & the UK has suffered for it.
actually not since they will just put in another PM who has the same beliefs. If you want to fix it then a PM resigning should go to a new election not the same group putting in another of their supporters. Austerity now and austerity forever. Unless you fix it. Plus tax cuts for the very top no matter who is elected. Really a sad state of affairs that "modern democracies" never answer to the people. Government of, by, and for the elites is just not the proper system. That is not democracy.
@@markpashia7067 The British people elected the Tories in a massive majority. They deserve the time to govern effectively and make good on the promises they made. They fact that they are now changing leadership midstream as circumstances have changed is a testament to how responsive the parliamentary system to the political and economic climate. The system can bend without breaking.
@@markpashia7067 the conservative party in Britain just like the republicans in US have been compromised by Russian money - lots of it - it is why they call it Londongrad . Really going to be a nail biter as to which survives - can the Ukrainians wipe out Putin before he wipes out the Western democracies from within it is going to be a photo finish
Do your homework. Stop depending on someone to tell you who to vote for. Respect your decisions and Vote.
Your sooooo right Thank You Cora............
Voters will not and should not accept more Washington babble without tangible social and economic programs that improve our quality of life. MSNBC has a point.
improve quality of life ? - that has im afraid left the building - it is only degrees of how less bad it can get
Joe speaking facts
Thank you, Joe. I bristled at that inaccurate equivalency. Also "nihilism of Trumpism" nails it. Wow. I haven't heard it put that way before. That's serious.
Holding every one ☝️ accountable an no one ☝️ is above th law we wouldn’t have this problem we r having today.. government official consider themselves above the law
Thank you Joe... I don't know what that 🤡 is on 🙄🙄
Thank you, Joe. These are not equivalent situations.
Love that Joe is shutting him down. Luntz is being ridiculous.
Thing is, I don't think Luntz is being ridiculous from his point of view at all -- after all, he's a pollster and consultant with an overwhelmingly right-leaning client list to maintain. The endless both-sidesist whatabout-ism is a career move.
kari lake, i can hear her screaming now. repubs, you created another monster.
When you choose an orange crook as your leader, what do you expect?
Low energy costs, safer neighborhoods, no inflation, strong economy, safer borders, no wars, want me to continue?
@@colinl5951 US economy was worse when IQ45 left than when he came to office. Economy was strong when he came to office and it took him only two years to mess up.
IQ45 bragged about a wall to stop immigration. It was just a waste. Illegal immigration continued and continues as jobs in the us still attract.
IQ45 said Putin was a genius when he invaded Ukraine. I don’t think that this would have had any kind of deterrent effect on anyone. IQ45 loves dictators and fascists.
Inflation is worldwide. It is the result of corruption and Covid (that IQ45 totally mismanaged). IQ45 added 1 trillion to the us deficit by lowering taxes on the richest corrupt people (in order to pay minimal taxes himself).
Low energy cost with fossil fuel is an illusion. What is the use of saving a few cents on your gas for your car when your house is wiped out by ever larger hurricanes, tornadoes and inundations. Do you really think that you will not pay your share if it doesn’t happen to you? Federal help applies as well as insurances get higher and one way or another this will be taken out of your pocket.
Want me to continue?
@@nnsnumbersandnotesunlimite7368 lol. K. I miss 1.80 gas. You?
@@colinl5951 I'm at 2.00 Euros per liter. No damage so far. Not a problem even at 3.00. Most of it is taxes anyway going back in the economy (for public schools, hospitals, libraries, highways, defense, etc.)
@@nnsnumbersandnotesunlimite7368 That absolutely makes no sense. Maybe do research about what state America is in, before making brainwashed, ignorant comments.
You think that without accoutability??? How can we find common ground vote blue!!!
One reason: social media oh maybe 2 things that and lack of civics education ( thank you Ronnie Reagan)
Not just lack of civics education, lack of teaching critical thinking skills.
"With malice toward none. Those words are lost...."
That is why I always like to listen to Michael Steele.
He is so down-to-earth with a practical awareness of things. The situation is beyond reconciliation.
This guy created this problem. He's been FOS his whole career
Part of the problem is that the majority of people are not voting for a particular candidate, they are voting against the other party. It is no longer about what we want, it's about what they want. Power and so they back anyone they feel will follow the leader and when called upon to vote they will do so as they are told. It's hard to vote, how do you choose when you don't like anyone?
The system is fine, it's the people in it and they are getting worse.
TheLiar(45)NormalizedLYING and WEIRD. GOP is chockfull of both. WE the People have the VOTE
What the TORIES and the GOP have in common...Reagan catastrophic trickle down economics🤣
CRY HARDER. WE LOVE IT!!!
@@mikebrigs1218 thems maga tears my boi
Yep, and never worked or trickled down. It trickled up and right into their wallets!
@@mikebrigs1218 Yes, The Trickle worked up. FACT!!!!!!!!!!!
@@mikebrigs1218 All the advances of seventy years (1899-1969) reversed in fifty years (1970-now). At this rate we will probably have grade school kids working in factories once more. I mean twelve hour days for eight year olds at a dollar a day is something to aspire to isn't it? MAGA Sheep!!!
Luntz must have gotten an autographed copy of The Art if The Deal.
I guess we’ll have to get rid of those drop boxes and those machines and lock up Mark Zuckerberg too.
Frank is NOT a Bi-Partisan, he may claim he is, and he may actually believe he is acting so when leading his focus groups (of which my Republican sister once was) but his Republican/Conservative bent still bleeds through. I'd prefer he be honest about which side he leans towards when talking with people and prefer he not create false equivalencies because claiming both sides to the same is NOT being bi-partisan when there is a huge asymmetry in scale (bothsider-ism is an insidious mental and moral disease).
What is this creep doing on. Him and Gingrich make language volatized. Luntz warns what he created...the lies from the eighties. Disgusting.
1:39
Dude says it's not just Republicans....
???? It literally is just Republicans
“If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”
― David Frum
Embrace fascism
@@robertcolacino7310 At least one of us can use the world fascism without all my posts going away.
Rancor between the left and the right? You mean the center and the far right?
Really between the House and the Senate we have only about 35 on the actual left.
Thank you Joe!!!!!!
The losers need to be told "YOU LOST, THE VOTERS HAVE FIRED YOU -- NOW CLEAN OUT YOUR DESK AND LEAVE".
And march them out with security.
Vote 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
Indeed vote blue 22 💙💙👍😄
'with malice toward none' fine words but half of Americans won't hear it in their rabbit hole echo chamber silos and if they did another half of them would not be sure what malice means.
With everything we now know about this Republican party, why would I listen to anything they have to say?
A 2 party system with all the house gerrymandering gives only extreme choices that cannot be voted out. Dark money and unlimited donations make politicians only care what the rich and powerful want. It's as simple as those two issues.
I wish Joe would stop interrupting every single person on the show. It's incredibly hard to even watch these, when he is just talking over. Everyone. Stop that. Joe.
💯
You can't have another 2020. trump's not in charge to hold the cops back, this time.
When this man said, ‘And it’s not just republicans.’ I immediately tuned him out. Contesting an election with actual facts and information and doing it in the courts is different from losing case after case for lack of evidence and rioting at the capital.
Sorry but for me 'malus toward none' just means letting them continue to get by with power grabs and crime. I was done with that a very very long time ago.
If these governors do not accept then they need to be arrested If they decide to go around and commit crimes or allow the people who support them to go around committing crimes lawlessly in the community that there in then they need to be arrested national guard needs to go to each 1 of these voting stations that are high risk and protected the The voters and workers
I'm trying to get to grips and understand the politics in the USA. I am a concerned naive observer from UK. But just hang on a minnit! Surely, when politicians or ex politicians are using The Law Of The Land for their own benefit ,( despite all other peoples in the country) being revealed as deceptive, against the principle and the truth of the law, why can they think that they can continue that deception? I am confused.
They don’t respect the rule of law. Every time Trump has a loss in court he and his supporters call it a witch hunt, a kangaroo court, or the deep state at work…any conspiracy theory will do and they accept it as fact without any proof whatsoever. It’s insanity.
okay, so then both parties need to man up and crack down on their crackpots. they need to make very clear that they will not tolerate post election chaos from any one of their candidates. and if it happens, then the parties need to invoke severe penalties, including cutting them off financially.
Best idea yet.....
Luntz cannot "follow the steps of Lincoln". If I read these comments, I think I understood the subject. But if the people themselves think that politicians are the current problem , they testify that something is severely wrong the way this electionbattle appeals . If men are not able to talk to each other anymore, if they don´t listen and accept other oppinions, democracy is not possible any more
Lmao good old Americans.
No matter how many times the system fails, and you get thr same outcome, you blame the individual.
New Boss, same as the old Boss
The two party system is broken people. We need to abandon R's and D's and start voting for individuals who actually have our best interests in mind. Not a bunch of partisan hacks who are more loyal to their party than their country.
Thank you Joe for calling him out on trying to make this about both sides. It is not about both sides. when Democrats lose they concede the election. That is how it has always been done until Trump in 2020.
The primary system we have is the problem. The most polarized votors vote in the primarys. They need a simple ranked choice election with a runoff. No parties allowed!
The BRITs at least got rid of Liz Truss within a few weeks. 👏The Americans have suffered with Donald Trump for about six years now.
*RED FLAG!* He mentions "civil war." That is totally irresponsible and just reinforces his past TV appearances as a grandstander looking for attention!
I so badly want to have discussions with the other side but cooler heads have to prevail. And moreso, many do believe Trumps lie even with all of the evidence.
Cooler heads are the ones who should be having discussions with the other side.
Instead of ignoring Luntz's warnings, we rather be prepared
That’s true. Election center should have strict times for respecting the election workers and security-not vigilante interference.
The Republicans are telling us all in their political ads to arm ourselves by pointing guns at us and our truthful representatives. They are saying fear the truth for we are the real world.
This is the insanity we are facing now in elections. It would be very smart to have weapons and ammunition on hand. Don't kid yourselves they're armed and mean it.
Follow Lincoln's example, but don't say it's both sides because it's clearly not.
How are Frank's butter teeth?
LMFAO, because years ago my mom told a creepy guy that asked her out for a date and she said: Oh, who wants to go out with your brown teeth! He never came back. lol
"It's not just Republicans..."
You're lying, Frank, and you know it. And while I've got a lot of issues with Scarborough, credit where due to him for the push back on the blatant false equivalence.
The recounting fees should be paid buy the challenger.
I hope my local cemetery doesn't vote again this November.
In 2020 we had a similar situation of Bush vs. Gore because it was close.
I was thinking it was John Kerry but maybe it was Gore. They were counting Miami Dade votes for 3 weeks b4 the counts were stopped by I believe the Supreme Court as those county votes were the only county being recounted and there were those hanging chads...
I think that was in 2000
I'd like to have heard the answer...
let them try jan 6 over again. bet the nat guard or regular army will ne ready this time....hoping so
Hypocrisy from BOTH SIDES is what is destroying America. That’s what Frank was talking about and he is 100% right. Joe needs to get his act together. He could help be a bridge but is bot helping.
There is a huge difference between 2016, or any other election than what is going on now....
Thank you so much, Joe! The republicans have showed their backends through and through and we all believe them!
Not surprising. The people abusing the system and corrupting the system is the problem.
Now you spoke Franz🤩
Anyone who mentions civil war hasn't really thought out how that would work. There is no dividing line like there was before of north vs south. It would be literally neighbor vs neighbor. There may be little Jan this around the country but come on a full out civil war? No
Lincoln cutting flips to appease the Confederate lovers is how we got here. Those malcontents were left to terrorize and plunder for centuries with little to no consequences.
There’s truth there!
what are the stats on the time it takes to vote in a line? Want the numbers: white and black? rich and poor? city and urban?
Good for Joe , tell it!
Frank couldn’t carry Abrahams, laundry
The people have caught on to the game.
He is actually right if it don't go their way who started this be honest to
Social media is nothing if not the people & their minds. Everybody gets the difference that our minds perceive is at mind level. We're part of humanity & humanity's largely known for its diversity of minds. What we "seldom" get is how much we rely on conviviality & kinship to feel balanced & belonging. We just don't know how not. At all levels, couldn't handle living otherwise. When our consciousnesses as adults reject the points of view of others making we won't then "copy" or get inspired by them, that drives us uneasy. Yes, there have always been minds rejecting civility & Democracy, sometimes proudly. Of course, rejecting civility & Democracy reflects discomfort towards these, which usually translates in a despisal of the welfare of others who won't despise the civic welfare of anyone. Civic welfare being all one can hope for, expect, in a salutary society, more than "civic" it naturally becomes repulsive from its utterly narcissistic/selfish "spiritually+ love me regardless" character.
This 28-72 feels an awful lot like
Trumpets-People