@@Ryan.Zamarripa it’s more like saying the ocean was the main character because having the iceberg and everything happening in it gave it personality and made things happen, etc. It doesn’t work. It’s a setting.
Why do people keep thinking all dogs named dogmeat are the same dog, dogs only live 10 years-ish tops and besides many of the dogs in the franchise are diferent breeds, dogmeat is just the common nick name wastelanders give to dogs
@@Alan_The_Jaguar It just doesn't really make sense to apply real logic to the Wasteland. I'm not saying all the Dogmeats are the same. But saying dogs only live 10ish years. I'm sure the Wasteland has hardened them. Also he's an Enclave dog in the show so it seems pretty peculiar he would be a normal dog just living 10 years. The Enclave would inevitably have to make him more resilient and I'm assuming to live longer. I definitely don't think its the Same Dog Meat. Especially since the show explains that the Enclave is making several of these animals. Maybe other Dogmeats have different backgrounds, but generally it's proven there are many "Dogmeats" out there. I wonder about the Mysterious Stranger though, know he's a strange one lol.
@@Alan_The_Jaguar"Dogmeat" is something all dogs have and all dogs can be. It's a title one can aspire towards. Dog in Fallout 4 is just Dog until he becomes Dogmeat.
I feel Ron Pearlman the narrator is the main character of fallout he is telling the stories of the past of the legendary vault dwellers "and a Courier" probably he's talking to people at a campfire about these stories
A phrase about war, "War isn't about who's right or wrong, it's about who's left over". Fallout is very much about that, it's about War and what's left afterward, but War... War never changes.
That’s how I always saw it too, war is the reason the fallout universe exists, and in every game, there’s still factions going to war over certain things, it literally never changes.
vault dweller and his descendants decision pretty much shaped the fate of the the wasteland even though i am a classic fallout fan when playing f4 for the first time i felt it especially with bos side of thing not to mention the other stuff as well
I’ve put hundreds of hours into fallout 4 and am currently playing new Vegas for the first time right now and I have to say it’s a breath of fresh air how alive the wasteland feels in that game. In 4 there’s no sense of the history of the setting, it’s as if the bombs fell and then everyone disappeared for 200 years only to suddenly spawn back in a few weeks before the game began. All the terminals you find are from either just before or after the beginning of the war or from like, a few days ago, you never see signs of the deeper history and only hear about it occasionally. You never find out about what was going on in the capital in 2160 or how some shack was built in 2236 and now serves as a small trade stop for caravans or something like that. But in NV there’s history everywhere. It really feels like this world developed over time through the actions of people, instead of just being this sandbox that suddenly blipped into existence for everyone to suddenly fight over.
I think I saw a meme that put it pretty succinctly West Coast: “In twenty years I’ll have reignited the high tech industries! In fifty, I’ll have people in space! In 100, we’ll be colonizing the moon!” East coast: “MOOOOOOOO” “Well said, Brahimovich” By in large the developers never really gave life to the west coast or a feeling that 200 years of development occurred at all, it’s mostly just raiders and ramshackle settlements where in comparison even the worst settlements in Vegas are at least have some structure
@@casualtaco2154 I really like that even the generic cannon fodder raiders in new Vegas have distinct gang names and cultures, like they’re tribal nomadic bandits not just depraved cannibal murderers
@@goodatpoliticsdogmeat is gotten from the cafe of broken dreams in 2, which is non canonical and shows fallout 1 potential characters. There's also Set, and I believe someone also talks about Ian
I feel like saying that the Wasteland is a character is like saying radiation is a character. It's often against the protagonist, is hostile, has a backstory, ect.
So, the Wasteland itself is an Eldritch, Lovecraftian cosmic-horror? Like it’s a concept that manifests itself, twisting and warping the minds of people trying to survive? With unknown intentions?
what do you think?
i dont think.
Nah, not everything a content creator makes holds weight. This one was a bust.
I like the take. However, it is like saying the iceberg in Titanic is the main character imo. But there is philosophical merit to what you are saying.
What about the mysterious stranger
@@Ryan.Zamarripa it’s more like saying the ocean was the main character because having the iceberg and everything happening in it gave it personality and made things happen, etc.
It doesn’t work. It’s a setting.
My guess was Dogmeat or the Mysterious Stranger
Why do people keep thinking all dogs named dogmeat are the same dog, dogs only live 10 years-ish tops and besides many of the dogs in the franchise are diferent breeds, dogmeat is just the common nick name wastelanders give to dogs
@@Alan_The_Jaguar It just doesn't really make sense to apply real logic to the Wasteland. I'm not saying all the Dogmeats are the same. But saying dogs only live 10ish years. I'm sure the Wasteland has hardened them. Also he's an Enclave dog in the show so it seems pretty peculiar he would be a normal dog just living 10 years. The Enclave would inevitably have to make him more resilient and I'm assuming to live longer. I definitely don't think its the Same Dog Meat. Especially since the show explains that the Enclave is making several of these animals. Maybe other Dogmeats have different backgrounds, but generally it's proven there are many "Dogmeats" out there. I wonder about the Mysterious Stranger though, know he's a strange one lol.
Deacon is secretly every character in the game
@@Alan_The_Jaguar"Dogmeat" is something all dogs have and all dogs can be. It's a title one can aspire towards.
Dog in Fallout 4 is just Dog until he becomes Dogmeat.
@@Porterpotty34real
I feel Ron Pearlman the narrator is the main character of fallout he is telling the stories of the past of the legendary vault dwellers "and a Courier" probably he's talking to people at a campfire about these stories
A phrase about war, "War isn't about who's right or wrong, it's about who's left over". Fallout is very much about that, it's about War and what's left afterward, but War... War never changes.
That’s how I always saw it too, war is the reason the fallout universe exists, and in every game, there’s still factions going to war over certain things, it literally never changes.
Such a good way to put it
"Character", no. Setting, yes.
vault dweller and his descendants decision pretty much shaped the fate of the the wasteland even though i am a classic fallout fan when playing f4 for the first time i felt it especially with bos side of thing not to mention the other stuff as well
I’ve put hundreds of hours into fallout 4 and am currently playing new Vegas for the first time right now and I have to say it’s a breath of fresh air how alive the wasteland feels in that game. In 4 there’s no sense of the history of the setting, it’s as if the bombs fell and then everyone disappeared for 200 years only to suddenly spawn back in a few weeks before the game began. All the terminals you find are from either just before or after the beginning of the war or from like, a few days ago, you never see signs of the deeper history and only hear about it occasionally. You never find out about what was going on in the capital in 2160 or how some shack was built in 2236 and now serves as a small trade stop for caravans or something like that. But in NV there’s history everywhere. It really feels like this world developed over time through the actions of people, instead of just being this sandbox that suddenly blipped into existence for everyone to suddenly fight over.
Patrolling the Mohave makes you wish for a nuclear winter .
The Commonwealth keeps trying to get back up but it keeps getting knocked down
I think I saw a meme that put it pretty succinctly
West Coast:
“In twenty years I’ll have reignited the high tech industries! In fifty, I’ll have people in space! In 100, we’ll be colonizing the moon!”
East coast:
“MOOOOOOOO”
“Well said, Brahimovich”
By in large the developers never really gave life to the west coast or a feeling that 200 years of development occurred at all, it’s mostly just raiders and ramshackle settlements where in comparison even the worst settlements in Vegas are at least have some structure
@@casualtaco2154 I really like that even the generic cannon fodder raiders in new Vegas have distinct gang names and cultures, like they’re tribal nomadic bandits not just depraved cannibal murderers
@@casualtaco2154 Because the west coast has had a hero
this some Sex and the City shit lmao
Patrolling the Mohave makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
This is the reason the show was so amazing, the showrunners understood this fact
Similar to R2D2 telling the Star Wars story something else is for fallout
Bro when he finds out humanity evolved because of Earth
Dog meat is in every canon fallout
Not in New Vegas
Dogmeat does not appear in New Vegas, and makes technically a non-canonical appearance in Fallout 2.
@@thesyndicatebruhwait he isnt canon in fallout 2? damn
Ironically, that would make New Vegas non-canon
@@goodatpoliticsdogmeat is gotten from the cafe of broken dreams in 2, which is non canonical and shows fallout 1 potential characters. There's also Set, and I believe someone also talks about Ian
I feel like saying that the Wasteland is a character is like saying radiation is a character. It's often against the protagonist, is hostile, has a backstory, ect.
Sort of like how Serenity was one of the main characters of the series Firefly?
A location no matter how story driven is still a location and not a character
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So, the Wasteland itself is an Eldritch, Lovecraftian cosmic-horror? Like it’s a concept that manifests itself, twisting and warping the minds of people trying to survive? With unknown intentions?
It’s a setting, not a character
Did you even watch it?
Setting CAN be character, if it has personality. The wasteland has a big personality
Correct. The setting can influence, create and even be full of character(s) but it’s still just a setting and environment.
Did any of you play fallout games or just the tv show
@@d3lt_a299yup and it sounds like profound nonsense
Hot take. Don't disagree.
Hey can you elaborate about the show or the game? Your viewers are now either those who watched the show or who played the games alone it'd be helpful
@@nuke298 Lol, he has dozens of videos. Watch them
Erm i agree with insaneawsometony idk abt the setting
One constant character? Dogmeat?! The Stranger?!? Harold?!?! Oh, the Wasteland, yeah, that makes sense. . . Oh and Harold isn’t in Fallout 4 :(.
Only the stranger's son is in fallout new Vegas and dog meat isn't.
I get the sentiment, but nah it’s just the setting not a character.
By your logic any setting is a main character. Makes no sense.
Actually the wasteland is not the main character of the fallout series…
Erm actually bro . Todd Howard said it is
@@GizmoNbellasource?
My guy not knowing the difference between "character" and "setting "
No