there was that one dialogue where he radios you "Ajay. Ajay, Ajay" and when Ajay answers, Pagan Min says "Just checking if you're listening" then hangs up.
@Jeb Bush Banning candles was just a in the moment, un-rash response to something annoying; he is a cocaine addict, by his own admission. Banning praying is objectively a good idea, religion is stupid ancient superstition and needs to go sooner or later. He sold old artifacts, which would be well preserved by their new owners and thats cash that can be used in / for Kyrat. The forced prostitution and drugs, may be a result of a corrupt army, which acts pretty independent on their own agendas, profit; they are largely mercenaries after all? And Dr Noore was entangling Pagan Min, who was in the middle of a crisis, fighting religious fanatics, terrorist and rebel royalists. Pagan didn't appreciate being told he needed to calm down his brutality tactics to try and fend his position for being disposed; at the end of the day, Pagan Min was King, in the middle of a chaotic war and threats from in his own regime to his power. You would have to see that Pagan was under *HUGE* pressure, he lost his lover, after a terrorist killed his daughter, international powers putting more pressure on him and he was battling with a cocaine addiction. Everyone has a breaking point, it is unfortunate, but when the leader breaks, his grip on the regime weaken and the people suffer for it.
@Jeb Bush People having a right to pray, is to say people have a right to be stupid and to make the next generation stupid as well. Sure Pagan gets a cut, why wouldn't he cash in on a money source, if his men would do it anyway, cause they are corrupt and Pagan in the end relies on his soldiers to keep him in power, resisting their demands for money by exploitation would be political suicide for Pagan. No, I meant the army is pretty free to act brutal and exploiting on the populace. Pagan wouldn't risk purging those who wrong the people, if it could cost their support and then his power. It is much easier to turn a blind eye, in exchange for the armies support for his rule. No journalist being killed isn't good, but Pagan was unhinged, under a lot of pressure and in danger of losing it all. Given that Pagan was already ordering large groups of people to be executed daily, Pagan would have become desensitized to simply killing those who get in the way. He did need to base his politics on his own problems. Politics were his problems, he is a King, who is in the middle of a civil war and is under attack on all sides. Pagan is King, he did what he could to keep the peace and remain in power. Factions in Kyrat would never accept Pagan, cause he was an 'illegitimate King' and an Atheist, therefore the religious conservatives were not going to cooperate, ever, and so Pagan lauched a campaign to purge them, after they took up arms and tryed to kill him, they failed, killed his daughter instead and so Pagan became thirsty for revenge and who can really blame him. Pagan said to Ajay early in the game, ".. I and your mother had such plans for Kyrat, but that all changed after the golden path.." so is it really his fault?..
@James Buck defending Pagan’s opium and forced prostitutes busineess is way too far. He might be the lesser evil compared to Sabal/Amita but it doesn’t make him a good guy. (Amita is basically a narco king and support slavery but at least she didn’t appear to force prostitution. Sabal once risked his life to save Ajay in the beginning) Not to mention, he backstabbed Mohan Ghale’s Royal faction and murder the last surviving member of the royal family, he did that way befote he met Ishwari. He’s a sicko bastard to begin with.
Nathan Drake i KNOW it will come out a dlc or another far cry that you will be ajay and team up with your uncle or what he is and do what you want to :D
(Secret ending) When Min tells you to stay at the table, stay there for a solid 10 or 11 minutes. You'll go to a cutscene when: Pagan comes back, you and Pagan go to Lakshmana to spread Ghale's mother's ashes as wished, but can't play anymore
They need to make a DLC that extends the game after the alternate ending, so you get to do a campaign where you're working with Pagan to wipe out the Golden Path, but with a more mediated approach due to Ajay's influence. I would very happily pay for that.
One of my favorites was when Pagan called to tell Ajay about a "new suit" that he had made for him. "Honestly, why do you need so many damn zippered pockets!? What? Are you carrying around handfuls of meat!? Oh, well I suppose you are..."
Yeah. The two endings to this were BS. Ishwari was actually changing Pagan back when they were together from what I hear, and he never really threatened Ajay's life. He had plenty opportunities anyway but chose not to. It would have been great to see his side of the dice.
He is a greedy dictator, Evil? Debatable. What makes Min my favorite "anti" hero unlike Vaas is he isn't out to kill Ajay, even when he first arrived to Kyrat He had killed the guy who ordered to fire on the bus Ajay was being smuggled in and though at any time Pagan could have captured Ajay, he chose not to. ( as he mentioned when he was talking about the cooks that went out of country and never returned) Only when Willis pawned him off to Yuma was when he came back face to face with Min, and he was only there to expressly tell Yuma not to hurt him. And when she tried, Min gave Ajay her exact coordinates. And during his trip to kill Yuma, Pagan expressed great mourn for the loss of Ajay's mother still showing great signs that he still loves her and cares greatly for Ajay. and during one of the last missions if you choose not to kill Pagan, the two of you sit down eat dinner, and walk to one of the only shrines left in Kyrat, a Shrine Pagan hated so much for what was inside but he chose to keep it up. Afterwards he expressed to Ajay how he was waiting for him to return, that ever since he walked out of that shrine he turned into the person he was today. Ending his very heart touching speech with "Every choice has a consequence Ajay, And I'm taking the fucking helicopter!" Unlike the Golden Path Pagan leaves once he gives Ajay the kingdom, and (depending on who you chose to lead the golden path) The citizens are rounded up to either fight off the remaining forces on Kyrat, or be publicly executed.
Pagan min : you know,the one and only time i walked in to this place.i came in a sane man and came out...like this Man that hit hard Dude was evil,crazy but can we really judge him ? Hell,if i was in his shoes,i’ll even crazier than him
I really find one of the main themes of FarCry 4 interesting: how love, particularly the parental love, changes people, and makes them do things they wouldn't normally do. Think about how easy it would have been to kill Ajay for Pagan, but he never took the opportunity, and even gave him the option to kill him if that's what would have brought him peace. Because no matter how cruel of a man Pagan was or how ruthless or sadistic, he missed his daughter and Ajay's mother so much that he gave all the love he had pent up for them to Ajay, because he was the only thing he had left to love. And I love how sincere his conversation at the end when they spread his mothers ashes is. There is no weasling or backstabbing, he wants him to be at peace, and only then can Pagan be at peace. In fact, the easter egg during the intro comfirms that this was his intention from the beginning, and it never breaks no matter how hard Ajay tries to ruin him. Even though Pagan surely deserved death for his crimes, I can't help but see his human side from this. Even a monster is capable of love sometimes.
yes finally It seem that so many people fall for how charismatic and chaming Pagan is, and wish they could side with him to wipw out the golden path. But while Amita & Sabal are definetely terrible people and don't deserve to be leaders, Pagan is no different. Taking a good look at his backstory and his relationship with Ishwari and all events sorrouding it, you can definetely see why he is the way he is; but it does not justify any of his actions. I did find Lakshmana on my playthrough, but I also killed him, and I don't regret it.
I think somewhere down the line, Pagan knew either Ajay or someone else the man had scorned was going to kill him. He tried to be a decent person to Ishwari while she genuinely loved him, but Pagan's demons kept coming back because being a ruthless killer and warlord was all he learned and was told would all he'd ever be in the end. In his mind scape in the Far Cry 6 dlc, he keeps trying to hold onto the idea that he could be a decent human being to the Ghale family and not a monster if given the opportunity, but he can't deny that he enjoyed being the king that he always desired to be after his father kept putting him down for his "preferences."
+raataggi96 theplayerXD Its more that he is complex. Human beings are rarely wholly good or wholly evil. Pagan has a cruel, cold side to him but also there is still good in him, that's a remnant of the person he was. At the end of the game, Pagan outright admits to Ajay that he went mad, that power (and his frustration at the Kyrati people being so corrupt/wedded to the past) corrupted him. He is narcassistic, sociopathic, but also self-aware; he knows what he has become and that, I think, is why he happily gives up power in the end.
You people are fools and idiots. He is not "good" he is an outright villain. Just because not every action he takes is bad does not make him a good person. He is the leader of a tyrannical regime for God's sake. Relugus gets it. Though I think he doesn't care about giving up the power. Mostly because he likely has the money to do it all over again. Think of how many years he's had to squeeze money out of Kyrat(hint:All of Ajay's life he has controlled Kyrat). Between selling artifacts and his lucrative drug trade he probably has a sweet nest egg for his next third world take over.
I read an interesting article about that. It said that his absence spoke more than his presence. All the posters, the radio calls, etc. seemed as if he was haunting you or something.
@@aurora-ksiezniczkadobra Yeah, but everyone wants to kill Vaas. Cool character, but we all hate him. Pagan meanwhile, is technically far worse than Vaas but is also fucking awesome and doesn't personally kill/torture people close to the MC.
Am I missing a hint？ Should I start taking this personally? I laughed so hard the first time I heard that. He's portrayed as a villain by the Golden Path, yet he expresses his frustration in such a laid back manner. Pagan is too cool for Kyrat
The charisma coming off this dude is ridiculous. Props to the writing team as well as Troy's performance. Pagan Min is a delight...even if he is a bit murdery.
Your bottom you keep debating should I kill him for all the bad shit he’s done or should I let him live or just live with the consequences are what I did I can’t figure this out he’s to charismatic
in Amita's ending, when she says "I'm being very particular with my words", just like Pagan used to do, it sent a chill down my spine. so glad i didn't choose her route.
I didn't choose her route, Sabal seemed like the lesser of two evils. she wanted to destroy a fucking temple, and then she made child soldiers. All Sabal did was kill a few people.
There was a glitch that happened in my game, I blew up Pagan's helicopter in the ending and proceeded to do all the side quests and hunting challenges, and suddenly out of the blue, Pagan starts talking on the radio commenting on Ajays clothing, it freaked me out.
Ace Huehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehue OMG can you upload clips for these? I'd hate to play it through again to hear the commentary but I really want to hear it!!
you missed out some radio transmissions/phonecalls though the missing ones I remember are: "it's always when they've gone" dialogue "slamming lines of coke/I'm a reformed man" dialogue "ban all candles" dialogue and the ''incompetent celebrity chef'' dialogue
Eagle6355 well the ''ban candles'' one is apparently an easter egg, someones uploaded it induvidually, the celeb chef one is right after you get out of pauls mansion and after the car crash. I cant exactly remember when the 'when they've gone'' one is, it might be after you kidnap paul. and the slamming lines of coke one I cant remember when, but hes talking about how he dealt with it when ishwari left him and said he would "bathe in yaks blood, killed innocent people and slammed lines of coke,he goes on to say he's in top form before you hear a very loud snorting noise (might be still on coke) I'm not expecting you to play through the game again just to get these extra calls but I just thought id mention them in case you wanted to get the whole collection
thezec Yeah, but thanks for telling me! :) It's a sad thing that you can't have multiple save files, in order to go back to previous missions. And I don't want to play through the whole game again just for some small radio dialogues. I often used fast travel after completing missions, which must be the main cause that I couldn't listen to all the radio dialogues (including the easter egg you mentioned, that one was totally new to me). I previosly released a first version of this film (approximately three days before this one) which didn't include the secret ending. That was because I had no idea of a 'secret ending', so after I saw a clip on RUclips I returned to the game and replayed+recorded the intro-part.
Eagle6355 I have found, yet another one, it's a particularly nasty yet funny call about Noore here's the audio file if you want to add kyraticouture.tumblr.com/post/106443070992/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-noore-this-is-one-of-my
One of my favourite lines from Pagan is when you wake up in Durgesh and he says 'Hello! Enjoyed your time with the CIA? You have been a naughty little shit haven't you?' Idk why but I just can't help but love his character, one of my favourite game characters of all time:)
First thing I said was "Oh why yes I have, but I've mostly missed you" lol literally was like 20 hrs since I had seen him since the beginning of the game.
From my reading into this game, it seems like once Mohan kills his daughter and Ajay's mother leaves...he just loses it and blames the entire country for his sorrow. I mean if a country revolved around a religion and group that was strongly connected to the person who murdered your innocent daughter, wouldn't you lose your shit and want to get rid of everything that reminded you of it? Not to dismiss all the bad things he has done, but I think his life would have been much different if Ajay's mother stayed or as he says in one of the radio messages, he went to America with her, he may have changed and became your step father. I think the whole game is just commenting on what is considered too far or how power/desperation can make people evil. I love Pagan Min, great character. As everyone else has been saying, too bad you couldn't join him! Although seriously Pagan, it is an asshole move to leave you there at the end (if you did not kill him). I wonder where he went? lol
He goes back to Hong Kong I believe. From the journals you collect it says the Pagan came with mercenaries from HK or something to help over thrown the King or the British. I have to replay the game to figure it out again.
To be fair, Ajay has turned into a whirlwind of slaughter and violence by the end of the game. No matter how much you care about someone, if they are a literal one man army that was intent on killing you just a few minutes ago *I would get the fuck away from him as fast as possible myself*
If i was pagan,i’ll buy some nuke and let the whole country have it.since i lost everything i love,life doesnt matter anymore.pagan is fucked up but he’s doing great
@@operleutnant7235 why would it? I support the man behind the original slogan and I think that if you create a funny political joke then it shouldn’t blow up in the wrong way
After creating the Masterpiece of video game villainy that was Vaas, Ubisoft needed to work hard to top that with an even better villain. I think they did it
Ubisoft sets the highest standard of villains like Pagan that they need to working so hard to make another villains on the series could even catch up with him. Mad respect
I was looking all the comments and lots of people have same thinking as me like they can make a DLC that extends the game after the alternate ending or you can side up with Pagan in the game and kill golden path i would definitly side up with Pagan cause doesn't matter how much people he killed he still made sure that you don't get any harm that's why I love this dude !!!!
I remember seeing the selfie and texting in that first cutscene and going "woooah, how is that in the game?!". Now it's all such a common occurence in movies and games, but back then... It was odd to see that already being so popular
I always love seeing that one soldier in the opening watching his captain get stabbed to death and he just casually backs up. Like yep the boss is in a stabbing mood today.
Pagen was merely still hurting very badly on the inside. Mohan killed his daughter and he simply lashed out. Unfortunately taking his anger out on the country. Notice how he rarely ever left his domain. He stayed inside coping with his loss and you know he visited his daughter's ashes everyday since she was killed.
Thumb up for "don't kill the handsome guy" :D Btw you missed one radio dialogue, when Ajay goes to Yuma's mines, Pagan tells something about her. UPD: and his body double which was caugth in Disneyland
"I was told, that if I ever wanted to experience the hospitality of Utkarsh, that I had to visit the Ranas" Ranas... DJ Rabi 'Ray' Rana ... Rabi 'Ray' *Rana* ... *Rana*
Yessir, and when they are in the house and Pagan picks up the picture I'm pretty sure it's Rabi Ray Rana on the photo. It's very common for games to use subtle referencing like this.
*Tears down posters of Pagan* Pagan: “Meh” 🤷♂️ *Kills an identical body double of Pagan* Pagan: “Meh” 🤷♂️ *Destroys statue of Pagan* Pagan: “Okay so am I missing a hint? Should I start taking this personally??” 🤔🤨 Ajay: 😐🤦♂️😖
I was a little freaked out at the end (I had another tab open) I thought I was hearing some creepy outro, but it was only Doorknob screaming in pain really fast.
This guy,after a pahse of life when he spread chaos he found a love of his life.he changed,he wanted to make things better,a peacful country for his wife and kids.then a cunt killed his daughter,made his wife abandoned him.he lost everything a man ever want to have in his life so he went batshit crazy.years later when the son of his enemy came back,he didnt harm him simply because that’s his wife son.he didnt care about ajay is a son of the one who killed his daughter and took everything he love.he just treated ajay like his own son because ajay is the only one left in this world reminds him about his wife.i dont know much about love but that’s a true love to me
i dont man, a 15 minute wait is a much better ending than an entire gameplay for me. literally. the "bad" guy, is more fun to be with than the supposed NPCs you are to fight along with and share cause; till the flip up of things of course.
My very first play-through of the game I waited for him to come back and was so shocked that he did! The only thing about it was he kind of blew the whole Lakshmana thing and gave me absolutely no sympathy for Mohan when I played the game for real.
Such a family man, we killed a dozens, if not hundreds of his man and what do we get ... Prison time unharmed and even still get invited for having a dinner in the end ...
Ajay Killing his entire Army was entertainment basically for Pagan. He literally put Yuma on a platter for Ajay and basically straight up tells you over the radio lol
Yeah. The two endings to this were BS. Ishwari was actually changing Pagan back when they were together from what I hear, and he never really threatened Ajay's life. He had plenty opportunities anyway but chose not to. It would have been great to see his side of the dice.
this makes it seems like pagan was urging ajay to kill all of what's bad of kyrat: the thrills of watching people's life being treated cheaply through noore, the fear of authority through paul and yuma, the hypocrisy of the golden path. it's like he wanted his son to inherit kyrat as what it is, and then choose to do what he sees fit to it
Whenever i play this game i m like:fuck the golden path and their so called “way of peace” im liberating these outposts and bell tower for my own gain and purpose”
I loved the game, but honestly I wish I could’ve joined him. THAT would have been a fun game, if I am going to play a morally ambiguous game, why not LET ME join guys like this?
I remember playing this game for the first time and I didn't kill Pagan. (At first) I scattered the ashes and when Pagan was flying off in the helicopter I shot it down with an RPG. It still game up with "The King Is Dead" lol
there was that one dialogue where he radios you "Ajay. Ajay, Ajay"
and when Ajay answers, Pagan Min says "Just checking if you're listening"
then hangs up.
Pagan Min: Ajay. Ajay. Ajay
Ajay: O que foi?
Pagan Min: Só estava checando se você estava me ouvindo
*Brling*
It was funny.
Ajay? Ajay? Aaaaaaajay?
Yep I remember that one. I laughed kind of hard at it 🤣
@@RafaelMunizYToxi do nada um brasileiro de 7 anos atrás kkkkkkk eai mano tá vivo?
Occasional murder aside, he seems like a chill guy.
In a war torn place, full of religious zealous fighters, division and terrorist, it would be impossible for any ruler to not purge the trouble makers.
@Jeb Bush
Banning candles was just a in the moment, un-rash response to something annoying; he is a cocaine addict, by his own admission.
Banning praying is objectively a good idea, religion is stupid ancient superstition and needs to go sooner or later.
He sold old artifacts, which would be well preserved by their new owners and thats cash that can be used in / for Kyrat.
The forced prostitution and drugs, may be a result of a corrupt army, which acts pretty independent on their own agendas, profit; they are largely mercenaries after all?
And Dr Noore was entangling Pagan Min, who was in the middle of a crisis, fighting religious fanatics, terrorist and rebel royalists. Pagan didn't appreciate being told he needed to calm down his brutality tactics to try and fend his position for being disposed; at the end of the day, Pagan Min was King, in the middle of a chaotic war and threats from in his own regime to his power.
You would have to see that Pagan was under *HUGE* pressure, he lost his lover, after a terrorist killed his daughter, international powers putting more pressure on him and he was battling with a cocaine addiction. Everyone has a breaking point, it is unfortunate, but when the leader breaks, his grip on the regime weaken and the people suffer for it.
@Jeb Bush
People having a right to pray, is to say people have a right to be stupid and to make the next generation stupid as well.
Sure Pagan gets a cut, why wouldn't he cash in on a money source, if his men would do it anyway, cause they are corrupt and Pagan in the end relies on his soldiers to keep him in power, resisting their demands for money by exploitation would be political suicide for Pagan.
No, I meant the army is pretty free to act brutal and exploiting on the populace. Pagan wouldn't risk purging those who wrong the people, if it could cost their support and then his power. It is much easier to turn a blind eye, in exchange for the armies support for his rule.
No journalist being killed isn't good, but Pagan was unhinged, under a lot of pressure and in danger of losing it all. Given that Pagan was already ordering large groups of people to be executed daily, Pagan would have become desensitized to simply killing those who get in the way.
He did need to base his politics on his own problems. Politics were his problems, he is a King, who is in the middle of a civil war and is under attack on all sides. Pagan is King, he did what he could to keep the peace and remain in power. Factions in Kyrat would never accept Pagan, cause he was an 'illegitimate King' and an Atheist, therefore the religious conservatives were not going to cooperate, ever, and so Pagan lauched a campaign to purge them, after they took up arms and tryed to kill him, they failed, killed his daughter instead and so Pagan became thirsty for revenge and who can really blame him.
Pagan said to Ajay early in the game, ".. I and your mother had such plans for Kyrat, but that all changed after the golden path.." so is it really his fault?..
He even killed one soldier who caused trouble.
@James Buck defending Pagan’s opium and forced prostitutes busineess is way too far. He might be the lesser evil compared to Sabal/Amita but it doesn’t make him a good guy. (Amita is basically a narco king and support slavery but at least she didn’t appear to force prostitution. Sabal once risked his life to save Ajay in the beginning)
Not to mention, he backstabbed Mohan Ghale’s Royal faction and murder the last surviving member of the royal family, he did that way befote he met Ishwari. He’s a sicko bastard to begin with.
I can't help but like this guy. I wish I was allowed to team up with him.
Nathan Drake i KNOW it will come out a dlc or another far cry that you will be ajay and team up with your uncle or what he is and do what you want to :D
Nathan Drake Theres is a 15 minute ending where you wait for him in the beginning.
Seductive Security Guard Barely saw that. Wow. I knew he wasn't that bad of a person. All the times and chances he had to kill you.....wow man.
He isn't a bad guy at all. He wanted Kyrat to focus less on religion and start doing some goddamn work.
(Secret ending) When Min tells you to stay at the table, stay there for a solid 10 or 11 minutes. You'll go to a cutscene when: Pagan comes back, you and Pagan go to Lakshmana to spread Ghale's mother's ashes as wished, but can't play anymore
They need to make a DLC that extends the game after the alternate ending, so you get to do a campaign where you're working with Pagan to wipe out the Golden Path, but with a more mediated approach due to Ajay's influence. I would very happily pay for that.
-lame- YES THE TRUTH HAS BEEN SPOKEN!
Id buy an entirely new game just to team up with pagan min
Far cry 4 stop instead of shoot addition
@@willjones3603 particular words dlc
Omg! I have the same idea.
One of my favorites was when Pagan called to tell Ajay about a "new suit" that he had made for him. "Honestly, why do you need so many damn zippered pockets!? What? Are you carrying around handfuls of meat!? Oh, well I suppose you are..."
Pagan speaking facts
Not meat, ROCKS
Am I the only one who wishes I could join Pagan's side of being a dictator, like play what might happen after the secret ending?
A DLC with a third path (join Pagan Min after you delivered the ash) and kill the Golden Path step by step. THAT would be awesome.
Yeah. The two endings to this were BS. Ishwari was actually changing Pagan back when they were together from what I hear, and he never really threatened Ajay's life. He had plenty opportunities anyway but chose not to. It would have been great to see his side of the dice.
Novazi74 we gotta ask Ubisoft !!!
Novazi74 believe me your not the only one
His allies were much more interesting than the protagonists, IMO.
He's the best anti-antagonist I've ever met in a video game.
Vaas Montenegro No!! Pagan is so good but you are still the best.
i thought jason killed you how are u still alive?
@@muhibaqeel5380
A knife is not enough to kill THE, Vaas Montenegro
NewZelandeseGoose Vaas is dead.
@@mrpirate6187
Are you sure tho?
He is a greedy dictator, Evil? Debatable.
What makes Min my favorite "anti" hero unlike Vaas is he isn't out to kill Ajay, even when he first arrived to Kyrat He had killed the guy who ordered to fire on the bus Ajay was being smuggled in and though at any time Pagan could have captured Ajay, he chose not to. ( as he mentioned when he was talking about the cooks that went out of country and never returned)
Only when Willis pawned him off to Yuma was when he came back face to face with Min, and he was only there to expressly tell Yuma not to hurt him. And when she tried, Min gave Ajay her exact coordinates. And during his trip to kill Yuma, Pagan expressed great mourn for the loss of Ajay's mother still showing great signs that he still loves her and cares greatly for Ajay. and during one of the last missions if you choose not to kill Pagan, the two of you sit down eat dinner, and walk to one of the only shrines left in Kyrat, a Shrine Pagan hated so much for what was inside but he chose to keep it up. Afterwards he expressed to Ajay how he was waiting for him to return, that ever since he walked out of that shrine he turned into the person he was today.
Ending his very heart touching speech with
"Every choice has a consequence Ajay, And I'm taking the fucking helicopter!"
Unlike the Golden Path Pagan leaves once he gives Ajay the kingdom, and (depending on who you chose to lead the golden path)
The citizens are rounded up to either fight off the remaining forces on Kyrat, or be publicly executed.
Pagan min : you know,the one and only time i walked in to this place.i came in a sane man and came out...like this
Man that hit hard
Dude was evil,crazy but can we really judge him ? Hell,if i was in his shoes,i’ll even crazier than him
im liking just because you took the effort in typing that :)
I really find one of the main themes of FarCry 4 interesting: how love, particularly the parental love, changes people, and makes them do things they wouldn't normally do. Think about how easy it would have been to kill Ajay for Pagan, but he never took the opportunity, and even gave him the option to kill him if that's what would have brought him peace. Because no matter how cruel of a man Pagan was or how ruthless or sadistic, he missed his daughter and Ajay's mother so much that he gave all the love he had pent up for them to Ajay, because he was the only thing he had left to love. And I love how sincere his conversation at the end when they spread his mothers ashes is. There is no weasling or backstabbing, he wants him to be at peace, and only then can Pagan be at peace. In fact, the easter egg during the intro comfirms that this was his intention from the beginning, and it never breaks no matter how hard Ajay tries to ruin him. Even though Pagan surely deserved death for his crimes, I can't help but see his human side from this. Even a monster is capable of love sometimes.
Contrary to someone we all knew in this game,the savior who whored his wife out and killed her daughter
@@dangminh2840 Honestly, the only hero here is Ajay himself.
@@TurnAGundam I don't think that Ajay was a hero...
yes finally
It seem that so many people fall for how charismatic and chaming Pagan is, and wish they could side with him to wipw out the golden path. But while Amita & Sabal are definetely terrible people and don't deserve to be leaders, Pagan is no different.
Taking a good look at his backstory and his relationship with Ishwari and all events sorrouding it, you can definetely see why he is the way he is; but it does not justify any of his actions.
I did find Lakshmana on my playthrough, but I also killed him, and I don't regret it.
I think somewhere down the line, Pagan knew either Ajay or someone else the man had scorned was going to kill him. He tried to be a decent person to Ishwari while she genuinely loved him, but Pagan's demons kept coming back because being a ruthless killer and warlord was all he learned and was told would all he'd ever be in the end. In his mind scape in the Far Cry 6 dlc, he keeps trying to hold onto the idea that he could be a decent human being to the Ghale family and not a monster if given the opportunity, but he can't deny that he enjoyed being the king that he always desired to be after his father kept putting him down for his "preferences."
The "secret" ending shows that Pagan can actually be nice
He is good and not bad
May Pagans light shine upon you all
+raataggi96 theplayerXD Its more that he is complex. Human beings are rarely wholly good or wholly evil. Pagan has a cruel, cold side to him but also there is still good in him, that's a remnant of the person he was. At the end of the game, Pagan outright admits to Ajay that he went mad, that power (and his frustration at the Kyrati people being so corrupt/wedded to the past) corrupted him. He is narcassistic, sociopathic, but also self-aware; he knows what he has become and that, I think, is why he happily gives up power in the end.
You people are fools and idiots. He is not "good" he is an outright villain. Just because not every action he takes is bad does not make him a good person. He is the leader of a tyrannical regime for God's sake. Relugus gets it. Though I think he doesn't care about giving up the power. Mostly because he likely has the money to do it all over again. Think of how many years he's had to squeeze money out of Kyrat(hint:All of Ajay's life he has controlled Kyrat). Between selling artifacts and his lucrative drug trade he probably has a sweet nest egg for his next third world take over.
raataggi96 theplayerXD Then why he killed Noore's famliy and make her turn into a monster?
this is the problem of far cry 4 its a 20 hour game and you only see pagan for 30 mins of that fucking 20 hours
I read an interesting article about that. It said that his absence spoke more than his presence. All the posters, the radio calls, etc. seemed as if he was haunting you or something.
yeah. playing it all I wanted was to join him and nope I cant.
Xiu Greyson If Ubisoft loves us then they'd give us DLC for that haha. But probably not.
There is worst situation with Vaas. We see him only for 10 minutes
@@aurora-ksiezniczkadobra Yeah, but everyone wants to kill Vaas. Cool character, but we all hate him. Pagan meanwhile, is technically far worse than Vaas but is also fucking awesome and doesn't personally kill/torture people close to the MC.
I wish there was a choice to side with Pagan and still play the game.
very late
wouldn't be much content there, maybe it would have been a good DLC. just go with pagan and fuck shit up
I love Pagan.
Wish came true but its ok
I mean, he lost his 1-year-old daughter. I wouldn´t stay calm if someone compromised the safety of my stepson, the last heir of the Kyrati throne.
Am I missing a hint？ Should I start taking this personally?
I laughed so hard the first time I heard that. He's portrayed as a villain by the Golden Path, yet he expresses his frustration in such a laid back manner.
Pagan is too cool for Kyrat
The charisma coming off this dude is ridiculous. Props to the writing team as well as Troy's performance. Pagan Min is a delight...even if he is a bit murdery.
Your bottom you keep debating should I kill him for all the bad shit he’s done or should I let him live or just live with the consequences are what I did I can’t figure this out he’s to charismatic
in Amita's ending, when she says "I'm being very particular with my words", just like Pagan used to do, it sent a chill down my spine.
so glad i didn't choose her route.
nat sabaal was no better
Dank Caesar They are worth each other.
Well,when I chose one of their paths I did not shoot the gun.I only left Amita/Sabal walk away
I didn't choose her route, Sabal seemed like the lesser of two evils. she wanted to destroy a fucking temple, and then she made child soldiers. All Sabal did was kill a few people.
saoz buuuut sabal also forces badhra to be tarun matara and i am preaty sure he killed badhra
Pagan Min:
"im with arjay ghale" you'll love this part.
HELP..
FROM THE DIAPHRAGM!
A text for help? You don't text for help, you cry for help.
So, come on, you're gonna cry for help.
Here we go!
I can hear myself telling him that that's why it's called Far Cry and that he's just referencing the title at this point lmao
This is one of the best moments.
People have forgotten. Yall love pagan min because of the amazing voice acting skills of Troy baker
Precisely
That, and the game's writing. The writers did a very good job with him.
This is truth.
When you realize that the secret ending actually is the good ending
There was a glitch that happened in my game, I blew up Pagan's helicopter in the ending and proceeded to do all the side quests and hunting challenges, and suddenly out of the blue, Pagan starts talking on the radio commenting on Ajays clothing, it freaked me out.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! Pagan's ghost has infested Ajay's radio!! DAMN, that would actually be an awesome addition to the story ;)
The exact same thing happened to me too.
***** Then he must sound and act EXACTLY like Pagan.
You killed his triple.
Ace Huehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehue OMG can you upload clips for these? I'd hate to play it through again to hear the commentary but I really want to hear it!!
10:26 aww that hello was so cute 💕
3:25 This song really puts some perspective on the whole story. Especially for the hidden ending at the beginning of the game.
you missed out some radio transmissions/phonecalls though
the missing ones I remember are:
"it's always when they've gone" dialogue
"slamming lines of coke/I'm a reformed man" dialogue
"ban all candles" dialogue
and the ''incompetent celebrity chef'' dialogue
Would you like to say when and where these dialogues will be played throughout the game? Cause I've never heard these during my first playthrough.
Eagle6355 well the ''ban candles'' one is apparently an easter egg, someones uploaded it induvidually, the celeb chef one is right after you get out of pauls mansion and after the car crash. I cant exactly remember when the 'when they've gone'' one is, it might be after you kidnap paul. and the slamming lines of coke one I cant remember when, but hes talking about how he dealt with it when ishwari left him and said he would "bathe in yaks blood, killed innocent people and slammed lines of coke,he goes on to say he's in top form before you hear a very loud snorting noise (might be still on coke)
I'm not expecting you to play through the game again just to get these extra calls but I just thought id mention them in case you wanted to get the whole collection
thezec Yeah, but thanks for telling me! :)
It's a sad thing that you can't have multiple save files, in order to go back to previous missions. And I don't want to play through the whole game again just for some small radio dialogues. I often used fast travel after completing missions, which must be the main cause that I couldn't listen to all the radio dialogues (including the easter egg you mentioned, that one was totally new to me).
I previosly released a first version of this film (approximately three days before this one) which didn't include the secret ending. That was because I had no idea of a 'secret ending', so after I saw a clip on RUclips I returned to the game and replayed+recorded the intro-part.
I got the ban all candles call
Eagle6355 I have found, yet another one, it's a particularly nasty yet funny call about Noore
here's the audio file if you want to add
kyraticouture.tumblr.com/post/106443070992/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-noore-this-is-one-of-my
One of my favourite lines from Pagan is when you wake up in Durgesh and he says 'Hello! Enjoyed your time with the CIA? You have been a naughty little shit haven't you?' Idk why but I just can't help but love his character, one of my favourite game characters of all time:)
First thing I said was "Oh why yes I have, but I've mostly missed you" lol literally was like 20 hrs since I had seen him since the beginning of the game.
From my reading into this game, it seems like once Mohan kills his daughter and Ajay's mother leaves...he just loses it and blames the entire country for his sorrow. I mean if a country revolved around a religion and group that was strongly connected to the person who murdered your innocent daughter, wouldn't you lose your shit and want to get rid of everything that reminded you of it? Not to dismiss all the bad things he has done, but I think his life would have been much different if Ajay's mother stayed or as he says in one of the radio messages, he went to America with her, he may have changed and became your step father. I think the whole game is just commenting on what is considered too far or how power/desperation can make people evil. I love Pagan Min, great character. As everyone else has been saying, too bad you couldn't join him! Although seriously Pagan, it is an asshole move to leave you there at the end (if you did not kill him). I wonder where he went? lol
He goes back to Hong Kong I believe. From the journals you collect it says the Pagan came with mercenaries from HK or something to help over thrown the King or the British. I have to replay the game to figure it out again.
To be fair, Ajay has turned into a whirlwind of slaughter and violence by the end of the game. No matter how much you care about someone, if they are a literal one man army that was intent on killing you just a few minutes ago *I would get the fuck away from him as fast as possible myself*
I mean he d i d murder a young ruler to take power so... Not all squeaky clean but then again no one is in this game except for Lakshmana
All that glitters isn't gold. And the Golden Path is pretty damn vile.
If i was pagan,i’ll buy some nuke and let the whole country have it.since i lost everything i love,life doesnt matter anymore.pagan is fucked up but he’s doing great
Thank you for including the radio transmissions! Man, you have no idea how much it irritated me that people did not include them until now
Pagan Min 2016: Making Kyrat Great Again.
MarianoRyu 2014
The fact that this did not blow up into an online argument is kind of a miracle
@@operleutnant7235 why would it? I support the man behind the original slogan and I think that if you create a funny political joke then it shouldn’t blow up in the wrong way
And we still cant drive the helicopter in farcry except that tiny little one that stalls and sends you flying into mountains.
After creating the Masterpiece of video game villainy that was Vaas, Ubisoft needed to work hard to top that with an even better villain. I think they did it
Ubisoft sets the highest standard of villains like Pagan that they need to working so hard to make another villains on the series could even catch up with him.
Mad respect
Charismatic and likeable villain.. I can't help but love him...
To bad you don't see him so much in the game, he's a really character
Best option in game is enjoy the crab Rangoon
Crab Rangoon is indeed very tasty
True.
And waste $60 to 100 for the game.
I was looking all the comments and lots of people have same thinking as me like they can make a DLC that extends the game after the alternate ending or you can side up with Pagan in the game and kill golden path
i would definitly side up with Pagan
cause doesn't matter how much people he killed he still made sure that you don't get any harm that's why I love this dude !!!!
18:39
"Hello Ajay."
No reply
"Ajay? Are you okay dear boy?"
I remember seeing the selfie and texting in that first cutscene and going "woooah, how is that in the game?!". Now it's all such a common occurence in movies and games, but back then... It was odd to see that already being so popular
Yes
It was 2014 💀
Selfies were already super popular at the time this game came out. It had been for like six years prior.
Farcry 4 is my favourite Farcry game of the series! I still play it to this day!
I always love seeing that one soldier in the opening watching his captain get stabbed to death and he just casually backs up. Like yep the boss is in a stabbing mood today.
" just checking in on my favourite nephew!" We seriously should have been able to side with him all game smh
In the end, between the two outcomes of Sabal and Anita. I honestly find Pagan as the best solution of the three evils.
Yeah I'll take pagans world over child soldiers and marrying underage girls 🤌🤌
Pagen was merely still hurting very badly on the inside. Mohan killed his daughter and he simply lashed out. Unfortunately taking his anger out on the country. Notice how he rarely ever left his domain. He stayed inside coping with his loss and you know he visited his daughter's ashes everyday since she was killed.
My Favorite Quote : i given you Kyrat but i'm keepin the helicopter😄
And I wanted that helicopter so much. Well I spared him anyway.
Ah ah, he's keeping the "FUCKING helicopter" he's very particular with his words, if you'll recall. ;)
Pagan min is a great example of “one bad day”
Ironic how the voice actor troy baker is the new Joker basically in alot of animations and one of the arkham games.
You missed the part where he talks about coming to America and wanting to find AJ’s mother. I don’t know why everyone forgets that one.
Thumb up for "don't kill the handsome guy" :D
Btw you missed one radio dialogue, when Ajay goes to Yuma's mines, Pagan tells something about her.
UPD: and his body double which was caugth in Disneyland
The end of the first cutsean was frickin awesome
31:02 That emotion spike. Troy Baker is freaking amazing
"I was told, that if I ever wanted to experience the hospitality of Utkarsh, that I had to visit the Ranas"
Ranas...
DJ Rabi 'Ray' Rana
... Rabi 'Ray' *Rana*
... *Rana*
*OOF*
Yessir, and when they are in the house and Pagan picks up the picture I'm pretty sure it's Rabi Ray Rana on the photo. It's very common for games to use subtle referencing like this.
*Tears down posters of Pagan*
Pagan: “Meh” 🤷♂️
*Kills an identical body double of Pagan*
Pagan: “Meh” 🤷♂️
*Destroys statue of Pagan*
Pagan: “Okay so am I missing a hint? Should I start taking this personally??” 🤔🤨
Ajay: 😐🤦♂️😖
Pagan min is probably the best video game villain in my opinion.
The villain who was actually on the good side throughout the whole game. Amita and Sabaal were just nothing short of barbarians
Pagan is the only villain in a far cry game I genuinely didn’t want to kill and the only villain in a game I chose not to kill
While playing this game pagan was more of a dad figure to me than my actual dad cause i can relate with pagan
idk why but i just like pagan min
I was a little freaked out at the end (I had another tab open)
I thought I was hearing some creepy outro, but it was only Doorknob screaming in pain really fast.
Huge thanks for the subtitles, it maked learning new words so much easier, and enjoying best fc villan aswell
"Don't shoot the handsome guy". I see what you did there. Literally, same. I love him to bits. He is better that Vaas, Hoyt and Joseph.
its honestly impressive for pretty much every main far cry entry by ubisoft to have well written antagonists
Vaas and Hoyt are more unpredictable, psychopathic warlords, while Pagan Min is more a narcissist, a sociopath, and (obviously) a dictator.
This dude. This fabulously dressed dude, *stabbed someone with a pen. With a FUCKING PEN!* can i buy that pen somewhere??
Pagan's going John Wick
How I wish the secret ending is the true ending, I mean, he really is a great man.
I think the intro to Far Cry 4 is still my favourite "You and I, are gonna tear shit up!"
I love it when pagin bans candles and starts shit talking Ajays outfit
The only good ending is staying and enjoying the crab rangoon
24:40 I love how dramatically he bit the food then died lmao
This guy,after a pahse of life when he spread chaos he found a love of his life.he changed,he wanted to make things better,a peacful country for his wife and kids.then a cunt killed his daughter,made his wife abandoned him.he lost everything a man ever want to have in his life so he went batshit crazy.years later when the son of his enemy came back,he didnt harm him simply because that’s his wife son.he didnt care about ajay is a son of the one who killed his daughter and took everything he love.he just treated ajay like his own son because ajay is the only one left in this world reminds him about his wife.i dont know much about love but that’s a true love to me
i dont man, a 15 minute wait is a much better ending than an entire gameplay for me.
literally. the "bad" guy, is more fun to be with than the supposed NPCs you are to fight along with and share cause; till the flip up of things of course.
Pagan Min is such a charismatic fella, I could hear him speak all day.
I just love pagan mins voice
Me too.
He is basically the new voice for the Joker. Even Rabi Ray Rana Makes a Joker reference in the radio when talking about Pagans Suit lol
I appreciate that they used The Clash in the soundtrack
Troy Baker is just awesome.
My very first play-through of the game I waited for him to come back and was so shocked that he did! The only thing about it was he kind of blew the whole Lakshmana thing and gave me absolutely no sympathy for Mohan when I played the game for real.
Brandy Nicole I had the same exact problem. I was unable to find the stairs lmao, but this ended up ruining the game for me sort of.
One of the best game intros in my opinion
There is a radio call missing when you go to dispatch Noore and it's Pagan mentioning how she became involved with his regime.
When "secret" ending is better then anyone another
And... "I've gived you a Kyrat but I'm keeping the helicopter". Wery funny for me
After 6 Years..........
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imagine how mad pagan would be if that guard who shot at ajay actually killed him lol
Such a family man, we killed a dozens, if not hundreds of his man and what do we get ... Prison time unharmed and even still get invited for having a dinner in the end ...
Ajay Killing his entire Army was entertainment basically for Pagan. He literally put Yuma on a platter for Ajay and basically straight up tells you over the radio lol
They are making a dlc where u play as the villains from Far cry 3, 4, 5.
Hell Yeah!!!!!!!
In the lastest far cry 6
Yeah. The two endings to this were BS. Ishwari was actually changing Pagan back when they were together from what I hear, and he never really threatened Ajay's life. He had plenty opportunities anyway but chose not to. It would have been great to see his side of the dice.
this makes it seems like pagan was urging ajay to kill all of what's bad of kyrat: the thrills of watching people's life being treated cheaply through noore, the fear of authority through paul and yuma, the hypocrisy of the golden path. it's like he wanted his son to inherit kyrat as what it is, and then choose to do what he sees fit to it
It also probably was entertaining for him watching Ajay kill his army, guards and governors.
7:46 This aged extremely well
Fucking OOF bro.
Aged like damn wine
secret ending is the true good ending, and it's the only ending that is actually good
Discovering troy baker plays him was a really cool thing
Whenever i play this game i m like:fuck the golden path and their so called “way of peace” im liberating these outposts and bell tower for my own gain and purpose”
16:03 ah yes Kyrat, famous inheritor of the German Empire
I would’ve just stayed and waited. And it seems like that wouldn’t have been a bad idea.
I don't see any reason to hate Pagan Min. In Far Cry standards, he is the most reasonable and sane one
Pagan is a good guy.
I loved the game, but honestly I wish I could’ve joined him. THAT would have been a fun game, if I am going to play a morally ambiguous game, why not LET ME join guys like this?
Troy Baker was great in this game as well
That intro...damn, never gets old!
Pagan Min seems to be the most sane person in the game (SPOILER ALERT! both sides you can join are wacko's)
Well see more of him now that the DLC is coming out!
I remember playing this game for the first time and I didn't kill Pagan. (At first) I scattered the ashes and when Pagan was flying off in the helicopter I shot it down with an RPG. It still game up with "The King Is Dead" lol
"Stop the bus, not shoot the bus"
Really wish you could side with Pagan instead of the golden path.
9:07 this is actually so true
Vaas: *chaotic evil*
Pagan: *chaotic neutral*
Pagan Min is my role model
Pagen really started to change when he met Ajay's mother then fell in love with her and she had his daughter.