Units of History - Marine Raiders (1942): Birth of the USMC Spec Ops DOCUMENTARY

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  • @RaginRaider
    @RaginRaider Год назад +650

    As a modern MARSOC Raider this is now my favorite episode. I have had the pleasure of meeting many of the WWII Raiders and hear their amazing stories first hand. Great job and thanks for making this.

    • @JohanCody
      @JohanCody Год назад +19

      MARSOC isn’t even real raiders. 4th bn boat companies are.

    • @danthelowblood2653
      @danthelowblood2653 Год назад +12

      Semper fi man

    • @211212112
      @211212112 Год назад +6

      Like, sharted, and watched

    • @RaginRaider
      @RaginRaider Год назад +67

      @@JohanCody any of the 4th bn boat company Marines always have the opportunity to take the MARSOC Raider selection and school. I would respect their opinion on who the “real” Raiders more after they did so.

    • @KennedyA53
      @KennedyA53 Год назад +9

      I’m interested myself in becoming a Raider after high school. I hear Recon is a good stepping stone

  • @ThraceVega
    @ThraceVega Год назад +386

    My Great Uncle was a Raider during WW2. Super nice to see them being done justice, thanks!

    • @AdmiralDevil
      @AdmiralDevil Год назад +9

      your great uncle is a brave man,the 1940s japanese best fear his wrath,I wouldn't have been brave enough to fight

    • @ammonheinzen8536
      @ammonheinzen8536 Год назад +6

      Hello, stranger on the internet. My dad grew up on stories of the Marine Raiders as a boy through the 50s and 60s. He volunteered for the Marines in 1972 after completing a year of junior college. He ended up not deploying since the war was winding down and was discharged that same year. However, he told me stories of Evans Carlson and his Raiders as I was growing up. He was inspired by Carlson's training of his battalion and how important it was for his men to know 'why' they fought. A book he often talked about was one called, American Commando, by John Wukovits. You might consider reading it if you haven't already.

    • @alexanderleach3365
      @alexanderleach3365 Год назад +1

      What rank was your Great Uncle during WW2 while serving with the Marine Raiders?

    • @petesweet8504
      @petesweet8504 11 месяцев назад

      My father was a Carlson Raider who was wounded on Okinawa in the Battle of Sugar Loaf Hill.

    • @Railhog2102
      @Railhog2102 11 месяцев назад

      Semper Fi dude and god bless him

  • @rdf4315
    @rdf4315 Год назад +463

    This is easily one of your best videos and it's cool to see more people talk about the Marine raiders, hopefully one day you guys will make a video about MACV-SOG.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  Год назад +113

      It's been fascinating to learn about after having had my head buried in antiquity for so long. This will likely end up being a 2-3 part series and then we will see what people want covered next for modern units. Already working on a Finnish War soldier episode to get another angle on units of the era.

    • @georgecristiancripcia4819
      @georgecristiancripcia4819 Год назад +20

      ​@@InvictaHistory
      I know that my idea may be controversial but maybe some japaness,german and italian units from ww2 could be interesting?We dont get many things about them,so it could be interesting to look at them,with or without mentioning the war crimes they comited,your choice.

    • @rdf4315
      @rdf4315 Год назад +4

      @@InvictaHistory that's going to be awesome I can't wait to see a video from you guys about the white death the greatest sniper of all time .

    • @historytank5673
      @historytank5673 Год назад +5

      @@georgecristiancripcia4819 I’d like that to, only recently I learnt their were some SS who were not war criminals (I know sound bonkers but yes form want little I’ve found are rare)

    • @Ace-cr9qt
      @Ace-cr9qt Год назад

      @@InvictaHistory Are you guys going to more fantasy I’d like it and I like this video ❤

  • @johnharder6380
    @johnharder6380 Год назад +151

    It’s so wild to hear not only of the battles, but the philosophy behind the leadership that enables their tactics, and ability to create opportunities. These heroes were TOUGH

  • @ArmyVet82ndAbn
    @ArmyVet82ndAbn Год назад +90

    I was Army Airborne and would love to see you do a video on the paratroopers, Rangers and Army Special Forces. Respect for the Marine Raider regiment of yesterday and today. My late father was a Korean war vet, and did 3 tours in Vietnam with the Special Forces.Thanks for the video.

    • @kaybevang536
      @kaybevang536 Год назад

      The Rangers took part in not just Europe in ww2 they also saved prisoners and with support from Philippine Rebels in the pacific in the Philippines

    • @Butter_Warrior99
      @Butter_Warrior99 11 месяцев назад

      How are your knees? Jumping like that can’t be healthy for ya cartilage in ya joints.

    • @275Vet-RLTW
      @275Vet-RLTW 11 месяцев назад

      @@Butter_Warrior99 knees suck man. Socom training doesn't age well!

  • @falren9360
    @falren9360 Год назад +87

    The difference between the organizational philosophies of the two initial branches of the raiders is really fascinating.

    • @TheSunderingSea
      @TheSunderingSea Год назад +7

      And as far as I can tell, first raiders had much better results. The Makin raid could only verify 46 confirmed Japanese causalities, the 180 is a claim by carlson coming from the flying boats. Makin was seen as a disaster and Carlson was relieved of command not long after, and he never led another unit in combat again. By contrast, first raider's commander had a distinguished career and was promoted to commander of the first marine regiment in 1943.

    • @nr875
      @nr875 Год назад +2

      I agree it’s a very interesting part of their history. Especially, with the lead up and with modern thinking, you would assume the 2nd would become the success not the 1st.

    • @CultureCrossed64
      @CultureCrossed64 5 месяцев назад

      ​@TheSunderingSea CoD World at War told me they were good so I will continue believing that they had an outsized mental effect on the Japanese ☠️ man I miss those servers

  • @jenniferboyett1546
    @jenniferboyett1546 Год назад +71

    My grandfather Robert Ragan was a Marine Raider. Didn't find out till near the end of his life. Thank you for this history as we don't know very much about it.

    • @theawesomeman9821
      @theawesomeman9821 Год назад +1

      that's cool! Proud of your grandpa😊

    • @ASH12B
      @ASH12B Год назад +1

      That's great. Anyone in your family keeping the tradition of military service?

    • @CodytheHun123
      @CodytheHun123 Год назад +1

      @jenniferboyett1546 according to the Raider Roster, our grandfather’s served with each other in D and G Companies. Would happen to have any info about him? I’m putting together a history of this particular unit of Carlson’s Raiders.

  • @TommyWWIII
    @TommyWWIII Год назад +36

    Amazing video. I was a Reconnaissance Man in the US Marines and when i was a boot they made sure we were very familiar with the Raiders. Even though there are modern Marine Raider units, their lineage can be directly traced to the Recon Marines of today.

  • @TheHouseSpeciaI
    @TheHouseSpeciaI Год назад +12

    DO NOT PLAY WAR THUNDER. Greedy and incompetent devs who mock and censor their playerbase.

  • @ak9989
    @ak9989 Год назад +44

    My dad was a ww2 marine, 1st marines. I collect usmc ww2 items and have 2 raider uniforms with silk Australian made patches.
    Plus my dad's ww2 combat gear, helmet, dungarees. I joined the army instead, 23 yrs Armor! Now my youngest is a marine to honor his grandfather.

    • @ianmetcalf3229
      @ianmetcalf3229 Год назад

      what made you join the army instead?

    • @shadowwolf9503
      @shadowwolf9503 Год назад

      Much thanks to all 3 of you. My Dad, my youngest son and myself all served with our local Army National Guard Unit. Dad was commo. My son and I served on the howitzers. Me 105mm - my son on the 155's.

  • @CodytheHun123
    @CodytheHun123 Год назад +40

    What a surprise. But a welcome one.
    My grandfather was one of the original Carlson’s Raiders (2DHQG) and was at Midway, Guadalcanal, and Bougainville. Some of his NCO’s went on to become pretty famous in their own right, especially at Iwo Jima.

    • @CFarnwide
      @CFarnwide Год назад +4

      Would you mind sharing his name? Your grandfather probably rubbed shoulders with my childrens Great Grandfather. He was with Carlsons 2nd from inception to disbandment. He was on Midway, the Makin Raid, Long Patrol, Bougainville… after disbanding he was wounded on Iwo Jima which sent him home.
      Anyway, there is a fairly good chance your grandfather is mentioned in the memoirs we have. 😎

    • @CodytheHun123
      @CodytheHun123 Год назад +1

      @@CFarnwidesorry for the late response. His name was Earnest Edward Earl. If they were in the same company it’s entirely possible. Grandpa was transferred out of the 2nd Raiders and like a lot of Carlson’s Raiders (and many Marine Paratroopers, yes it was a thing) ended up as the core of the 5th Marine Division.
      What was your children’s great grandfather’s name if you don’t mind me asking?

    • @CFarnwide
      @CFarnwide Год назад +1

      @@CodytheHun123 Your Grandfathers name sounds familiar. I will have to go back and read the memoirs.
      Dean Winters is my childrens great grandfather. He is featured in a couple of photos (before and after) from the Makin Raid, aboard the Nautilus. He also manned the Boys AT Rifle.

    • @CodytheHun123
      @CodytheHun123 Год назад +1

      @@CFarnwide Really? I've read so much about him! He did a lot of interviews I used for research! That would be amazing!

    • @CFarnwide
      @CFarnwide Год назад +2

      @@CodytheHun123 RUclips is a small world sometimes! Amazing how people from the past can connect through a video. 😎
      Did your grandfather write any memoirs? I will definitely scour the internet to see if I can find anything in the public domain about him.

  • @huntclanhunt9697
    @huntclanhunt9697 Год назад +41

    Would you guys maybe do videos on the Paramarines? They're an even less known group than the Raiders.
    Or Alamo Scouts? They were an elite army unit that, despite completing hundreds of incredibly dangerous missions, never lost a man in combat.

  • @theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658
    @theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658 Год назад +23

    I still remember all their Spawn, Victory, Defeat Themes from COD: World At War. All the factions had great ones.

    • @rdf4315
      @rdf4315 Год назад +6

      It's funny you bring up world at war because shuri castle I think that's how you spell it, still gives me nightmares from playing it on veteran.

    • @anttitheinternetguy3213
      @anttitheinternetguy3213 Год назад +1

      I Have Been replaying CoD WaW soundtrack lately, mostly while playing enlisted! The soundtrack was amazing on that game, who would Have thought a heavy metal/horror movie soundtrack would fit so well to WW2!

    • @chrislondo2683
      @chrislondo2683 Год назад

      Medal of Honor: Pacific Assualt also had the Makin raid.

  • @MichaelGalt
    @MichaelGalt Год назад +55

    As a prior Marine, I didn't know all of that history. So, thank you for the excellent piece!

    • @ASH12B
      @ASH12B Год назад +5

      I was Army, but even I know if you were marine never say was, as you still are Marine.

    • @Railhog2102
      @Railhog2102 Год назад +1

      1st Marine Division right

  • @richardhicks7946
    @richardhicks7946 Год назад +3

    I liked the video. But one thing you should always remember there are no soldier in the Marine Corp. We are Marines if you want a soldier go to the army. You join the army but you become a Marine. Thank you.

  • @briansonnenfelt7125
    @briansonnenfelt7125 Год назад +20

    The book “The Water Beneath the Walls” talks about the Raiders, as well as Rangers and UTD’s origins. It also expands on how the Navy ended up with Seal Teams, which in summary is due to the Army and Marines disbanding Raiders and Rangers after WWII.

    • @raywhitehead730
      @raywhitehead730 Год назад +1

      Check on your history, the Seals/UDT were created at the insistence of Kennedy. However they originally were UDT.

    • @briansonnenfelt7125
      @briansonnenfelt7125 Год назад +1

      @@raywhitehead730you should probably read the book. I said how they ended up with the seal teams, which are rooted in UDT. Also, you might want to check your own history. UDT continued to operate after WWII, including in Korea and other actions. Seal Teams were recommended by Arliegh Burke, CNO, in 1961. Kennedy “directed” it a few months later. UDT was the only paramilitary force that was not disbanded after WWII and Korea, hence the least likely branch (Navy) ending up with elite operators of UDT. The first seal teams were filled with members of UDT, and commissioned in 1962.

  • @luigidisanpietro3720
    @luigidisanpietro3720 Год назад +14

    I like this Modern Infantry history...
    Props to the whole team♥️

  • @tacticooldude7509
    @tacticooldude7509 Год назад +60

    As a marine i love this, please keep these up. No channel has done a detailed timeline of the marines battles in the pacific in you're top-down tactical animations yet so this would a great video in that playlist.

    • @robertmosher7418
      @robertmosher7418 Год назад +5

      A battalion with six maneuver companies is huge. It must have been like our modern CAG or SeAL Teams or DEVGRU. There is a reason a fire team has a team leader and 3 soldiers/Marines, a squad has a squad leader and three teams, a Platoon has the HQ/PL and three squads, a company has the HQ section/CO....see a pattern? Three maneuver elements is the largest number any one leader can control while in a fight. That's still a lot of coordination between the leader his elements, adjacent friendly forces and his command. The reason that when you get larger than a Battalion into a Brigade or higher that they can comprise up to 4 Battalions of Infantry, armor units, LRSD assets, artillery, air defense units, intelligence units to include drone assets, an engineer company, etc, etc is because Brigade commanders and above all have a battle staff that is given a structured outline of what each Infantry battalion is planning to do and the coordination between them and adjacent units, engineer assets and fires are set by staff and it's all run through them. The Brigade commander will have his battle staff in the bde TOC receiving up to the minute updates and the units actions down to the platoon level are tracked on a huge map of the battle space. The commander will not be in the TOC, he will be somewhere on the battlefield where he can move between his maneuver bn while his RTOs are reporting important changes to the battle space to him. The S3 and XO will run the TOC and the S2 will continue to compile the information and push it to the subordinate commanders as the battle develops. Each leader from the newest team leader to each bn commander has a lot of discretion to develop his piece of the fight and take initiative and adapt the plan as long as he maintains he responsibilities of communication with adjacent units and higher while staying within the commander's intent.

    • @johnfilardo2699
      @johnfilardo2699 Год назад

      Thanks. Always enjoy reading background facts from someone who knows what he's about.

  • @ophthalmophobicnpc8002
    @ophthalmophobicnpc8002 Год назад +4

    I dont know if its correct to label the French colonies in Africa as part of the Axis. The Germans had basically no control over those territories.

  • @sceema333
    @sceema333 Год назад +54

    Would be really cool and interesting if y'all were to make one of your 3D depictions of the armies of the last 200 years!

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  Год назад +28

      Working on one for the American Infantry of WW2. The original plan was to do a whole Battalion but the complexity involved means we are just doing a Rifle Company first

    • @troydodson9641
      @troydodson9641 Год назад +2

      ​@@InvictaHistory Leets Gooooo!

  • @SageThyme23
    @SageThyme23 Год назад +8

    Really not a fan of these weird photo manipulations. The movements are distracting and weird

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  Год назад +5

      We were testing different ways to add more movement to some of the scenes. But agreed that the excessive tilting can be distracting

    • @chayneschaetzle9307
      @chayneschaetzle9307 Год назад

      Agreed.

  • @antonikristian2915
    @antonikristian2915 Год назад +12

    This documentary is amazing. Could you make another documentary about navy seal, green berret, and delta force? Those units are the role model in modern military.

  • @IvIidnight
    @IvIidnight Год назад +3

    The United States' first objective in WW2 was NOT to stop the spread of Japan's territory in the Pacific. Our first objective was the European war, the Pacific was second.

  • @manuelacosta9463
    @manuelacosta9463 Год назад +56

    The first modern US special forces. I honestly first learned of them playing Medal Of Honor Pacific Assault as a kid. They sure took the fight to the enemy and did so with great gusto.

    • @davidcruz8667
      @davidcruz8667 Год назад +1

      A video game? I don't think that would help you understand what our lives are really like. Real life is very different from a game.
      Semper Fi.

    • @WillUSMC0321
      @WillUSMC0321 Год назад +5

      @@davidcruz8667 He said he learned about it as a kid playing a game.

    • @davidcruz8667
      @davidcruz8667 Год назад

      @@WillUSMC0321 Okay. It's just that there are too many references to video games. It cheapens what is a serious matter, kids think they can receive multiple hits and just need to pick up a health packet, and you can go back over and over again until they can win an entire military encounter singlehandedly. I'm so tired of it.
      Our lives are difficult, mostly boring, we've lost a lot of good buddies, it carries the consequences of real life and real physics and you only have a limited supply of logistics, you are sometimes sick as a dog and just wanna stay in your rack or your poncho liner, but you get up and do it because someone has to do the dirty work, and that's us. We don't want thanks for it, it isn't glamorous, and the sense of pride and responsibility are real. We can't just hit "pause" and go have a sandwich and take a shit. We kill real human beings, civilians also get hurt, and it messes with your character. Only strong men can get past this and finish the mission.
      Semper Fi.

    • @Railhog2102
      @Railhog2102 Год назад

      The Marine Raiders also fought with the Army on New Georgia and Rendova, Also there was future president John F Kennedy who was PT boat Captain

    • @cantbanme8971
      @cantbanme8971 11 месяцев назад

      You're projecting a whole lot of shit he didn't say because you clearly have your own preconceived biases. He just said he learned about this aspect of history (surely that's a good thing?) from playing the game, jesus get over yourself Rambo.

  • @alexius23
    @alexius23 Год назад +16

    There were many inside the Marine Corps who were deeply against the Marine Raiders.

    • @redaug4212
      @redaug4212 Год назад +6

      Marine Corps brass, and even some junior officers and enlisted men, resented the "elite" status of Raiders. Being better than everyone else in the branch that already proclaims to be the best didn't earn them many friends.

    • @alexius23
      @alexius23 Год назад +3

      @@redaug4212 January 8, 1944 the Raider Battalions were folded into regular Marine units and the concept of Raiders ended

    • @alexius23
      @alexius23 Год назад +3

      In 2014 the Marine Special Operations Regiment was renamed the Marine Raiders Regiment.

    • @FezMooseLive
      @FezMooseLive Год назад +2

      @@redaug4212 well I dont think they were trying to be the best.
      You can fight a war in a almost endless amount of ways. You can defend, or be offensive. In this case, extra offensive.
      Raiders first, everyone else second. Raiders leave to raid another island, then everyone else follows.
      Rinse, repeat.

    • @redaug4212
      @redaug4212 Год назад +4

      @@FezMooseLive Oh I'm not saying that I agree with _big_ USMC (I actually do, but that's aside from the point). I'm just saying that inter-service rivalry inhibited the development of specialized units within the Marine Corps. It's probably why the paramarines were axed as well.

  • @lucasjleandro
    @lucasjleandro Год назад +44

    Epic fight Marine Raider vs Kamen Rider

    • @Mygg_Jeager
      @Mygg_Jeager Год назад

      Who?

    • @GenStallion
      @GenStallion Год назад +3

      @@Mygg_Jeager
      They are what we got the Power Rangers from. They are from Japan, kinda like how we got some very popular game shows from the Brits.

    • @whathell6t
      @whathell6t Год назад +2

      @@GenStallion
      Nope!
      Power Rangers are from Super Sentai.
      Kamen Rider was formed on riding on the coattails of the Yuusha (Superheroe) boom of Ultraman. What makes it unique is the element of J-Horror. However, anime weeb don’t like it because the 1971 is too political and actually acknowledging Japanese war crimes.

    • @Mygg_Jeager
      @Mygg_Jeager Год назад

      @@GenStallion ahhhh. Them. Lol

  • @chayneschaetzle9307
    @chayneschaetzle9307 Год назад +10

    Thank you for making this, Invicta! Semper Fi!

  • @jakethet3206
    @jakethet3206 Час назад

    It’s been a year. Where is the second half of this? I’d really like to see it, please.

  • @CoyoteIslander
    @CoyoteIslander Год назад +15

    Would love to see a similar video about the Vietcong/NVA, I feel like that would be a really entertaining video given the amount of equipment from various nations they had

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Год назад +9

    I've heard lots of great things about this unit. Can't wait for the next video on them.

  • @galbert117
    @galbert117 Год назад +5

    Saw the post about thia video so I jumped right over.
    Pretty sure I included these guys in a 30-minute presentation I did in history class back in high school. So its cool to see them again in a video with WAY MORE RESEARCH. Couldn't exactly go more without taking up all the class time....

  • @chris.3711
    @chris.3711 Год назад +4

    My Grandfather was a Raider. 2 service stars on Guadalcanal, 1 on Bougainville, and a Presidential Unit Citation.

  • @drewmcnally3611
    @drewmcnally3611 Год назад +5

    Shoutout to Armchair History for sharing this amazing video

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  Год назад +1

      really appreciate his help on this one as it was quite the project : )

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Год назад +6

    It isn't really bad having one unit specialising in another. Like a useful multitool.

  • @LukeBunyip
    @LukeBunyip Год назад +4

    0:15 After the fall of Singapore, the only British forces in Australia were a boat load of SOE operatives that ended up assisting in the formation of Z Force. Commonwealth would have been a better term to use.
    Having had my grump, that was excellent. Ta muchly.

  • @nursestoyland
    @nursestoyland Год назад +2

    Seen the post from The Armchair Historian, and man I’m impressed with this video!

  • @lewisbloxham5546
    @lewisbloxham5546 Год назад +7

    Great video and production as always! Your work is highly appreciated by all of us history and military enthusiasts!

  • @MrLevicrz
    @MrLevicrz Год назад +16

    Just want to point out that Green Berets are the only "Special Forces" unit for the US and everything else is special operations, in case someone reads the title and gets confused.
    Edit: Green berets all have the 18 series MOS. Which is their Military Occupational Speciality, or job, their job titles literally have "Special Forces' in it.
    Meanwhile being in the 75th Ranger Regiment, they have all kinds of MOS but not the 18 series. The same goes for other units in SOCOM that technically don't have an "MOS" but other way of designating job types.

    • @Wanderer628
      @Wanderer628 Год назад +7

      I was more confused thinking the title was insinuating the Marine raiders were the world's first special forces which wouldn't be correct. Description cleared it up.

    • @twenty-fifth420
      @twenty-fifth420 Год назад +6

      I am going to be honest, that distinction is tenous at best from a language perspective. There better be a historical reason or else I am going to use the two as synonyms because I frankly do not see a ‘difference’.

    • @Eshanas
      @Eshanas Год назад +1

      @@twenty-fifth420 it’s just a US thing. Green Berets are The Special Forces, proper noun, all others are Special operations forces, on the field they’re all “special forces”, so

    • @Grunt802VT
      @Grunt802VT Год назад +3

      Green Berets were founded in 1952 right?
      Marine Corps has been hooking and jabbing with their special forces since the Halls of Montezuma & The Shores of Tripoli!!
      Sh¡¡¡¡¡¡¡t.. When was the last time you heard anything about the Green Berets? Was probably the last time you watched that movie with John Wayne in it 😘😘😘

    • @MrLevicrz
      @MrLevicrz Год назад +1

      @@twenty-fifth420 Green berets all have the 18 series MOS. Which is their Military Occupational Speciality, or job, their job titles literally have "Special Forces' in it.
      Meanwhile being in the 75th Ranger Regiment, they have all kinds of MOS but not the 18 series. I get it from a language perspective doesn't seem much but I see this misconception a number of times and just like to point it out.

  • @JG54206
    @JG54206 Год назад +2

    Algorithm comment. From an avid viewer of the Armchair Historian. My brother watches a ton of your content and speaks highly of it. I watch your content when it is in the subject range that I’m looking for and I love it. The fact that YT is suppressing you is no accident in my opinion. Keep doing what you do. Subbed.

  • @lenorevanalstine1219
    @lenorevanalstine1219 Год назад +2

    my grand mothers second husbands father fought in the pacific and never really said much about what he was other than he lost a lot of friends and that it was like hell on earth

  • @CrimsonSp33d
    @CrimsonSp33d Год назад +15

    Come on youtube share this video. The historical authenticity and the ammount of work this channel puts in is amazing

  • @dudi0_0
    @dudi0_0 Год назад +7

    It feels weird not seeing ancient units or fictional units.

  • @themugwump33
    @themugwump33 Год назад +3

    HOLY SHIT!!! How did invicta upload and me not hear about it??? I LOVE this stuff. It’s everything that History Channel wanted to be, but didn’t have the balls to spend less than $500,000 per episode.

  • @elijahrv24
    @elijahrv24 Год назад +4

    Really hoping you guys continue this series!

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  Год назад +1

      I hope so as well, we will likely have to reduce the resource investment in light of the views but will definitely plan to continue

  • @Drew151Proof
    @Drew151Proof Год назад +3

    im an army veteran but i really do love the marines. True american heroes and true patriots! Semper Fi marines!

    • @shadowwolf9503
      @shadowwolf9503 Год назад +1

      Same here. I was Army- 13Bravo. But I have many family and friends who are Marines. I have much respect for them.

    • @Drew151Proof
      @Drew151Proof Год назад +1

      @@shadowwolf9503 same brother. I work at the VA here in seattle and I just love saying thank you for your service to all the old vets. Nowdays the VA cares more about the rainbow then then all of us veterans

    • @shadowwolf9503
      @shadowwolf9503 Год назад

      @@Drew151Proof Roger that. I contacted my local VA once. They were rude and very unhelpful.

    • @Drew151Proof
      @Drew151Proof Год назад

      @@shadowwolf9503 it’s a real shame what’s going on.

    • @shadowwolf9503
      @shadowwolf9503 Год назад +1

      @@Drew151Proof I agree 💯.

  • @Djlawson1000
    @Djlawson1000 Год назад +3

    Bad time to promote War Thunder, currently we’re in the midst of boycotting them for abusive economy changes.

    • @NobleKorhedron
      @NobleKorhedron Год назад

      What kind of abusive economy charges...?

    • @Djlawson1000
      @Djlawson1000 Год назад +3

      @@NobleKorhedron for years they’ve been increasing arbitrary in game currency costs to play the game. It’s gotten so bad that you can’t meaningfully progress in the game without spending hundreds of dollars on premium accounts and vehicle packs. Earlier this month they tried to institute another economy change and the player has decided enough was enough. Since then we’ve boycotting.

    • @trevorphillips8415
      @trevorphillips8415 Год назад

      @@Djlawson1000 Don't forget their little anime ad lmao.

  • @ProVoiceActorGuy
    @ProVoiceActorGuy Год назад +4

    Love working on these but especially this and the upcoming True Size. Thanks for all your great work as usual #ww2 #marines #usmarines #warhistory

  • @Lordparable
    @Lordparable 8 месяцев назад +2

    I know it going over the raiders but seeing marines in the same playlist as the sliver shields, the Spartans and Varangian guard chokes me up a little

  • @Jamesvashotmail
    @Jamesvashotmail Год назад +6

    Wrong time to do be advertising War thunder😅.Great channel btw.

  • @huntclanhunt9697
    @huntclanhunt9697 Год назад +1

    Lack of armor was norhing to do with weight. Helmets were all anyone used anywhere, except for very, very rare occasions when engineers and air crews used flak jackets.

  • @michelmendoza1769
    @michelmendoza1769 Год назад +2

    These guys were Supermen in my opinion! They say that BUDS is the toughest training in the military but from other documentaries reported the training to be a raider es enough to break several brave men

  • @zetabravo
    @zetabravo Год назад +2

    I'd recommend to anyone interested in the Raider Battalions, "Edson's Raiders" by Joseph H. Alexander! It's covers the beginnings, battles, and legacy of the 1st Marine Raider Battalion!

  • @tony9146
    @tony9146 Год назад +3

    Thank you for the excellent video. Very informative and entertaining to watch!! P.S. if you’re doing modern units, it would be great to watch one of these on the French Foreign Legion!

  • @jsudlow12
    @jsudlow12 Год назад +1

    Bad ass mother F******
    Amazing learning about what these men did and what they went through, thank you for shining a spotlight on this amazing part of American military history

  • @Ralphr203
    @Ralphr203 Год назад +3

    This was so exciting to watch this morning. Thanks for creating.

  • @keithcoombs2185
    @keithcoombs2185 Год назад +2

    Shout out to The Armchair Historian for the heads up about this video. I’m really excited about this video and RUclips algorithm be damned for not allowing easy access to this video. It’s so well done and really should be more widely viewable. Well done!

  • @vitorpereira9515
    @vitorpereira9515 Год назад +8

    Make an episode about the Scholae Palatinae.

  • @huntclanhunt9697
    @huntclanhunt9697 Год назад +14

    Raiders aren't the first special forces (using that term loosely since technically it only applies to Green Berets and Delta Force).
    The Army Rangers formed roughly the same time. Similarly, the paratroopers were considered "special forces" in WW2 as well due to the raiding and specialized light infantry training/recon training they received.
    Going further back, the Berdan Sharpshooters of the Civil War were seen as a special pperations force, used for scouting and forward recon. Texas Ramger regiments earlier than that in the Mexican War, amd going wven further we have the Green Mountain Boys of the Revolution, or even Roger's Ramgers from the 7 Years (Fremch and Indian), war.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  Год назад +10

      Thanks for the clarification. I was struggling to find a succinct way to word the title. I think Origins of the USMC Spec Ops may be the best I can do for now.

    • @huntclanhunt9697
      @huntclanhunt9697 Год назад

      ​@@InvictaHistory That works.

    • @ssgtomen621
      @ssgtomen621 Год назад +4

      Raiders have the distinction of being America's first modern special operations unit, predating both the OSS Jedburgh teams and the Rangers (1st Ranger BT being formed in June of that same year). Also, I am nitpicking here, but for what it is worth, within US military context, Special Forces is exclusively Green Berets, SOF usually covers JSOC SMUs and other white SOF. Especially when you consider no one really refers to Delta as SFOD-D, and at one point, 75% of their members came from the Rangers.

    • @alancranford3398
      @alancranford3398 Год назад

      Here I was thinking that The Corps of Discovery (Lewis and Clark expedition) and the Marines under William Eaton and Presley O'Bannon (Battle of Derna) were early special forces operations commissioned by President Thomas Jefferson. The Corps of Discovery had scientific and diplomatic missions. There were seven other Marines, an Navy ensign, and 200-300 Greek, 'Turkish and Arab mercenaries hired by Eaton. They conducted a 521-mile march from Alexandria to Derna and though outgunned (Eaton's force had one cannon and a second was borrowed from the US ship Argus) and outnumbered but with gunfire support from three US Navy ships this force attacked a fortified complex, suffered 14 killed or wounded, but took the city and inflicted an unknown but very heavy toll upon the defenders. The latter was the "Shores of Tripoli" from the Marine Corps Hymn. There was even a 1950 movie on that operation:
      www.imdb.com/title/tt0043072/
      There were other Jefferson special forces operations but as those weren't successful, nobody brags about them today.

  • @jacobkonick8889
    @jacobkonick8889 Год назад +3

    Outstanding work, one of the best videos of this type you have made yet. Thank you!

  • @hoffenwurdig1356
    @hoffenwurdig1356 Год назад +1

    You are right, the English “Gung-ho” is a pidgin version of the Chinese: 工合; pinyin: gōnghé; lit. 'to work together’ -- something associated peripherally but not directly with 工業合作社; pinyin: Gōngyè Hézuòshè; ‘Chinese Industrial Cooperative.'

  • @ericgrkim
    @ericgrkim Год назад +1

    Great video! Such a shame that RUclips is hiding it...

  • @ronaldedson496
    @ronaldedson496 Год назад +1

    Major General Merritt Austin Edson 1897-1955 USMC should have been given the credit.

  • @sm-zn8xm
    @sm-zn8xm Год назад +1

    I love that the history behind gung ho mean to work together.

  • @blaircolquhoun7780
    @blaircolquhoun7780 Год назад +1

    The best movie about the Marine Raiders is the 1943 film Gung Ho! it's about the Makin Island Raid.

  • @davidhughes8357
    @davidhughes8357 Год назад +1

    Come on RUclips support the history of these brave soldiers!!

  • @ModernDayRenaissanceMan
    @ModernDayRenaissanceMan Год назад +1

    It may be time to move off RUclips & post on Rumble. RUclips is not friendly for content creators anymore. Once everyone leaves they will get the message

  • @raywhitehead730
    @raywhitehead730 Год назад +1

    The Marine Corps hated, hated the idea of a special unit within the Corps. But it was pushed by the President himself. But buy the end of the Battle of Guadalcanal, it was gone, and never was recreated.

  • @day2148
    @day2148 Год назад +9

    I'm absolutely astonished by just how much Carlson's 2nd regiment was based on the Chinese Communist doctrine, from the focus on soldiers' conviction/initiative, to the 3-3-3 organizational structure, to the emphasis on surgical infiltration attacks in lieu of heavy fire support.
    It really makes me think that the early reverses in the Korean War would not have been possible if the leaders then weren't so overconfidence and refused to listen to experts.

    • @huntclanhunt9697
      @huntclanhunt9697 Год назад +3

      The Marines started using the fire team system of splitting a squad into 3 man fireteams as early as 1941. The Raiders likely just copied that but removed having an additional man as the leader, instead combining the leader into a rifleman role

    • @PapaDalbec
      @PapaDalbec Год назад

      Yeah ok buddy no need to yellow-wash the marine corps 😂

    • @day2148
      @day2148 Год назад

      @@huntclanhunt9697 Aren't the events in this video taking place in 1941? Considering that the military was quite aware Japan was gearing up for war with the US, they had began preparations of their own long before Pearl Harbor happened (which was more of a tactical surprise than a strategic one).

  • @WheresWalto
    @WheresWalto Год назад +1

    Next one should be the Haari. Not sure if there's much known about them, but they sound terrifying from how the Romans described them.

  • @ulfur7584
    @ulfur7584 Год назад +1

    A subject I know nothing about, really cool thanks as usual

  • @christopherroa9781
    @christopherroa9781 Год назад +2

    My great uncle was in Carlson's raiders, i remember my grandpa talking about his experiences. He didn't share much given the intensity of the fighting, but we knew he was at Guadalcanal during those fateful first engagements

  • @ronaldedson496
    @ronaldedson496 Год назад +1

    Actually the 1st commissioned in January 1942.

  • @whitewave16
    @whitewave16 Год назад +1

    Will you also feature the British Commandos and the French Legion?

  • @tokedoutredeye428
    @tokedoutredeye428 Год назад +1

    I will play war thunder today just for you . I just got a ps5 from a great friend . I play alot of "hell let loose " such a fun war Sim . I can't wait to try war thunder

  • @eltonjohnson1724
    @eltonjohnson1724 Год назад +1

    Regarding the raid on Makin, it's interesting that your video did not mention the Raiders that were left behind, captured by the Japanese and beheaded. It was only recently that some of their bodies were brought back to the US for proper burial.

  • @picklesusa3449
    @picklesusa3449 Год назад +1

    Can you do more of these special forces videos. Next you could do German paratroopers

  • @joshsmith1574
    @joshsmith1574 Год назад +1

    I just wish for once that the people in charge of making these videos would get it through their heads that United States Marines are not soldiers and should stop referring to us as such. We are Marines. its not a complicated title

  • @Jarod-vg9wq
    @Jarod-vg9wq Год назад +1

    If only the marines kept the raiders form the start to all through out ww2: Korea, Vietnam to today.

  • @DOSFS
    @DOSFS Год назад +1

    Why RUclips pushed this good video down!? I really enjoy it and others will enjoy it too!

  • @lazaroskordas4397
    @lazaroskordas4397 Год назад +1

    If you re going to do units of modern times then the Wagner mercrnaries are a topic really worth making a video about.

  • @driescrauwels894
    @driescrauwels894 Год назад +1

    Great video i hope it gets the views it deserves 🤞🤞

  • @brianbyczek-m6p
    @brianbyczek-m6p Год назад +1

    my Dad was with the raider battalions and retired after 20 years. Also in Korea. He used to tell me stories and i wish i could have recorded them.
    if you met him you would never imagine, he was so unassuming.
    i was with 173rd in viet nam.

  • @g3tshotheett
    @g3tshotheett Год назад +1

    The actually pulled guys from this unit to lead Marines on Peleliu.

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE Год назад +1

    Thank you to all the men & women that have served our country over the generations & to the fallen that will never be forgotten OORAH 🇺🇲

  • @mikaelantonkurki
    @mikaelantonkurki Год назад +12

    So i'm not entirely sure about the technicalities or semantics of this but really it was the british SAS (special air service) who were the true pioneers of Special forces. But again according to some there is some differences between the idea of Special operations (Spec ops) and Special forces units so I don't know.

    • @tmmccormick86
      @tmmccormick86 Год назад +3

      The pioneers of Special Operations weren't even the SAS; it was Roger's Rangers, a joint Anglo-American unit during King Phillips War. Both countries grabbed at the idea of elite light Infantry performing deep penetration raids and special reconnaissance, and the concept ebbed and flowed over centuries to eventually spawn the SAS, Commandos, Ranger Regiment, and USASF.
      The only units who claim the Raiders of WWII as their organizational forebears are Marine Recon and MARSOC; the Army points to a lineage of Roger's to Mosby to Darby/Jedburgh/Alamo to USASF, while the Navy points to UDT/USASF to SEAL.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  Год назад +4

      It is certainly more accurate to say American Spec Ops. I'll try and see if I can fit that in the title

    • @tmmccormick86
      @tmmccormick86 Год назад +3

      @@InvictaHistory I'm loathe to nit-pick; this channel does amazing work and I love what you produce!

    • @CrowDawg11
      @CrowDawg11 Год назад +7

      @@tmmccormick86 if we're going to be that pedantic, then in the modern era - which is clearly what was meant - then the chronology would be SAS in June 1940, then Marine Raiders on 16 Feb 1942, then Army Rangers on 19 June 1942, then the Devil's Brigade on 9 July 1942. As far as American special operations in the modern era go...yes, the Marines were first.
      If we're talking all of human history, then we can go back thousands of years earlier than your oldest example and look at Roman Speculatores.

    • @tmmccormick86
      @tmmccormick86 Год назад +1

      @CrowDawg11 unit lineage is not at all pedantic. The Marine Raiders may have been the first stood up during WWII, but that does not insert them into the unit lineage of USASF. Every unit has their own lineage and traditions and it's faux pas to mix them in that way simply because one branch was quicker by a few months- especially given that most militaries prior to WWII, and especially the US, had a nasty habit of developing unconventional units during war time and disbanding them when the fighting was over and no clear need was evident any longer, resulting in situations such as are mentioned in the first part of this video.

  • @kyledabearsfan
    @kyledabearsfan 10 месяцев назад +1

    The two different philosophies are incredibly intriguing.

  • @rolandxd7514
    @rolandxd7514 Год назад +1

    Absolutely amazing documentary. May the algorithem shine their blessing on this channel again

  • @mrknight805x6
    @mrknight805x6 11 месяцев назад +1

    My grandfather was a Raider. He was shot in the back less than 1 inch from his heart while fighting in Guam. Crazy to think my very existance came down to a slight aiming discrepancy by some Japanese soldier. Sadly he passed before I was born, but my father still has the bullet... a reminder of how different things could have been.

  • @officercat7907
    @officercat7907 Год назад +2

    Just discovered this channel and WOW! Amazing production. PLEASE do more WWII Special Forces units!

  • @Kaiquintos
    @Kaiquintos Год назад +2

    This has been an incredibly valuable video of knowledge. I thought I previously had a fairly decent understanding of what and how the USMC were both organized and trained during WW2. But this video showed me an absolute immense amount of newly gained knowledge.
    I do also want to add that it is incredibly upsetting to see that RUclips clearly does not care about some of its own communities. Since more and more groups are getting restricted or complete demonetization. And not for a good and valid reason either.
    There's quite a few of you historical channels that I know spend an incredible amount of time and energy into these kinds of videos. Depending on the topic they do vary in length. But undoubtedly you have both skillful researchers and scriptwriters along with some top tier animators and editors. And it breaks my heart to see you pour this much effort into a video that because it's an informative and educational video about something with wartime history. It will be branded by some algorithm that it's not "good". Be it good for marketing purposes or good for family friendly content. It doesn't matter, what matters is that RUclips clearly puts less effort, care and money into making sure that the creators of videos that are easily on par with many documentaries known for their quality and authenticity. Instead they rather push for channels that target larger audiences with a more "trendy" content.
    I don't know what the upper echelons of RUclips and Google are thinking of or about. But clearly they are not understanding just how valuable videos like yours truly are. There are so many channels with content focused on informing or educating. And they do such a great job of doing it. There's already plenty of material out there that's regularly used to help people in many different academic endeavors. Be it in the higher tiers of advanced university courses to basic knowledge for general education.
    It's just tragic to see all of this talent wasted. But I suppose at the end of the day. That is just how the corporate world operates. And it will be just a question of time until they've chased off enough creators that RUclips as a platform will no longer be seen as a "main entertainment" platform.

  • @parrythetrojan
    @parrythetrojan Год назад +5

    As an ex marine I thank you for this video!

  • @polishpotatos9282
    @polishpotatos9282 Год назад +1

    i want to note that the ships they have can still put a hole in you and do that over and over very fast. 3in gun is a 76mm. small for ship to ship combat but for shore bombardment it would be much better.

  • @Fellow_Daoist
    @Fellow_Daoist Год назад +1

    How about a video on Army Special Forces?

  • @ronaldedson496
    @ronaldedson496 Год назад +1

    Edson's Raiders since April 19, 1775.

  • @mdvga
    @mdvga Год назад +1

    Completely different experience for African American soldiers 💀

  • @Dragon11730
    @Dragon11730 Год назад +1

    These guys were so ahead of their time and the majority of marines corps leadership at the time failed to see it.

  • @darthrevan-
    @darthrevan- Год назад +1

    You should do the 101st airborne and 1st infantry division

  • @Quokka666
    @Quokka666 Год назад +1

    love the vid but aus was fighting under its own flag the brits were off doing there own thing

  • @danielburgess7785
    @danielburgess7785 Год назад +1

    "Gung ho" would be better translated as 'strive for harmony.' That it was altered for green grunts was probably inevitable.

  • @pancho4575
    @pancho4575 Год назад +2

    Do one for the Army Rangers please

    • @ej_22
      @ej_22 Год назад

      Fun fact the us army ranger is the first special operations units in the us military