This is a really fascinating angle and makes so much sense regarding the sorcerers et Al! There is always a lot of excavation of western historical influences first on these games, but there are clearly so many other cultures FromSoft draws from. The Fire Giants and the sword of night and flame use many symbols from the origins of iron smithing in Africa, it’s amazing.
Thank you so much! I knew Elden Ring had a lot of Norse, Celtic, and Shinto inspirations, so I was pleasantly surprised when I saw there were so many connections between yoga and the primeval current. Oh, I had no idea about the iron smithing symbols! I'll definitely need to look into that.
@@garrulousgoldmask yes, information about it generally falls under the heading of Adinkra symbols, very fascinating. What’s even more interesting is these symbols permeates historic southern American ironwork due to the use of enslaved people from Africa for a large portion of ironwork and blacksmithing.
That sounds really fascinating--thank you so much for sharing! I've been toying with doing a video about the mythology of smithing in Elden Ring and in our world and this could help me fill in a few gaps...
Ignore the trolls that don't watch the video, this is excellent research and actually gives some interesting insight into a few of the less explained things in Elden Ring.
Thank you so much! There have already been some great videos exploring the links between Elden Ring and alchemy, Norse mythology, Shinto, etc., so I was pleasantly surprised to come across some deep parallels with Hinduism too!
@@bengage9695 It is described based on experiences from deep meditative states. Without that experience, you cannot understand it, whether you call it genius or dismiss it as philosophical nonsense. Either way knowing will not happen.
Very true. As for Renna, the most relevant take I've seen is that it's Old Norse for to flow/melt/dissolve/slide, which are pretty fitting for a snowy crone.
Huh... You know, I actually guessed at a bit of this while I was stuck on the Astel fight. A bunch of thoughts clicked together as I got sniped across the arena once again, and I discovered an Eldritch Truth (rambled about it to a friend over discord for a while, and started quoting Micolash at him). Didn't know enough about Hinduism to grasp the greater picture, though, only enough to realise that Astel's 'eye' and my giant eyeball hat were likely linked, and that they were both linked to the primeval current. It's great to see a discussion in detail on this aspect of the lore that is so close to my personal experience playing the game :)
Im curious from wgich religious vackground are you from With only respect behind my head im just impress in the variety of religions youre touching me too i love religion i dont beleive in them bu i do think our ancestors were trying remember important notion by writing them
Ahh, I'm so sorry about that! I only realized until much later that I FUBAR'd the audio. Fortunately, the auto-generated captions aren't that bad if you don't mind subs.
sigh another video throwing shade at sellen and the primeval sorcerers, the sheer hypocrisy of a tarnished who kills a whole continent to become god complaining about a witch for using a few primal glintstones, and the ranni simping, she is fact the most evil character thousands of times worse than sellen
A Tarnished is just trying to heal the land, whereas Sellen is killing people to turn them into her science projects to play god. Ranni is trying to play god too, and where Sellen's fixation leads her to become another failed "star seed", Ranni is bound by "fates" from the stars that, judging from what Starlight Shards potions do, erase someone's free will. Ranni's own soul is the same light blue as the potion victims and souls ensnared by Fia's necromancy, so she might be trapped as well, with the Dark Moon, the force that commands the stars, able to erase her will at any time, if it's not already trying to control her. After all, Ranni says she started her plans because she wanted to be free from an empyrean life, yet the stars made her wield the Elden Ring with an "Elden" Lord and even a ring, a la what Mohg tried to force onto Miquella. Ranni has ended up how she may have been in the first place, except now her very soul might be controlled, rather than just her flesh. Heck, the Two Fingers couldn't even seem to rein in Marika, so the Two Fingers might not have an actual way to puppeteer an empyrean to boot.
how is she evil though? you still believe in the miss translation ending? or what? because i only see a girl trying to escape the fate of being a puppet, and she didn't want anyone else suffer the fate like her so she brought a liberation to the lands betweens
@@anhdunghisinh He might think that Ranni's actions in the Night of the Black Knives were unjustified, especially since Ranni never cures the Death Blight plague she creates and thus abandons the world to a hellish existence while she literally runs away from her problems.
@@nightscout9979 i don't think the deathblight is the problem here, There were countless method for people to pass on. The problem is the greater will through golden order monopoly the 'life cycle market" by removing the destined death from the elden ring and proclaim everyone else's methods heresy. As long as we release the destined death and overthrown the greater will, things will come back to normal
Idk about you but I have the option to not murder anyone or anything that has a sense of morals. Arguably the most sane people we have to cut down are Morgott and his daddy but even so one is slightly mad from abuse and the other is more than happy to die if he isn’t good enough. Furthermore, anything you kill in Caelid is really a mercy killing as they’re super infected with rot. Everyone else you have to kill definitely has it coming
I was just getting used to hearing it with one ear and then... THE LOATHSOME DUNG EATER
Nakshatra and Nak-satra also sound like Nashandra, who, as a being made from a part of the Dark Soul, is sort of like a ruler of night.
This is a really fascinating angle and makes so much sense regarding the sorcerers et Al! There is always a lot of excavation of western historical influences first on these games, but there are clearly so many other cultures FromSoft draws from. The Fire Giants and the sword of night and flame use many symbols from the origins of iron smithing in Africa, it’s amazing.
Thank you so much! I knew Elden Ring had a lot of Norse, Celtic, and Shinto inspirations, so I was pleasantly surprised when I saw there were so many connections between yoga and the primeval current.
Oh, I had no idea about the iron smithing symbols! I'll definitely need to look into that.
@@garrulousgoldmask yes, information about it generally falls under the heading of Adinkra symbols, very fascinating. What’s even more interesting is these symbols permeates historic southern American ironwork due to the use of enslaved people from Africa for a large portion of ironwork and blacksmithing.
That sounds really fascinating--thank you so much for sharing! I've been toying with doing a video about the mythology of smithing in Elden Ring and in our world and this could help me fill in a few gaps...
Ignore the trolls that don't watch the video, this is excellent research and actually gives some interesting insight into a few of the less explained things in Elden Ring.
Thank you so much! There have already been some great videos exploring the links between Elden Ring and alchemy, Norse mythology, Shinto, etc., so I was pleasantly surprised to come across some deep parallels with Hinduism too!
"So not only is Elden Ring Dark Souls 2 II but it's also Bloodborne 2."
100%
Thanks for analogising ER lore to something other than Judeo-Christian and Greco-Roman. Very well made.
3:18 It's bit unnerving that Buddhism and similar philosophies seek to end suffering by achieving what's basically Death with extra steps.
There's an old Greek saying that goes: "If you die before you die, you won't die when you die."
@@kevinmack8122That's either circular nonsense or profound genius, and I can't decide which. 😆
@@bengage9695 It is described based on experiences from deep meditative states. Without that experience, you cannot understand it, whether you call it genius or dismiss it as philosophical nonsense.
Either way knowing will not happen.
Nox is also just Latin for night. Ranni was interesting. Makes you wonder about Renna.
Very true. As for Renna, the most relevant take I've seen is that it's Old Norse for to flow/melt/dissolve/slide, which are pretty fitting for a snowy crone.
This is marvelous work
'Bloodborne but crystals instead of blood' is an idea and a half and I love it
Just found you today. How do you now have more views?? Your analysis reminds me of Tarnish Archeologist. I like how you break things down. Well done!
High praise indeed--thank you so much!
Alas, I've been ruled by a force more powerful than any outer god in the Lands Between: the RUclips algorithm.
Hey around 4:27 you said power unlocked by meditation these power are refer as siddish if im not confusing myself
That's true!
Huh... You know, I actually guessed at a bit of this while I was stuck on the Astel fight. A bunch of thoughts clicked together as I got sniped across the arena once again, and I discovered an Eldritch Truth (rambled about it to a friend over discord for a while, and started quoting Micolash at him).
Didn't know enough about Hinduism to grasp the greater picture, though, only enough to realise that Astel's 'eye' and my giant eyeball hat were likely linked, and that they were both linked to the primeval current. It's great to see a discussion in detail on this aspect of the lore that is so close to my personal experience playing the game :)
Addendum: I have forwarded the video to the friend who suffered my insane ramblings. Hopefully they'll be less confused now.
Who could think that playing a game you'll get so much teachings?
The current of all time!
Im curious from wgich religious vackground are you from
With only respect behind my head im just impress in the variety of religions youre touching me too i love religion i dont beleive in them bu i do think our ancestors were trying remember important notion by writing them
r.i.p airphone users
I am so sorry, this looks like a good video, however everything is in the left ear so I cant watch it :(.
Ahh, I'm so sorry about that! I only realized until much later that I FUBAR'd the audio.
Fortunately, the auto-generated captions aren't that bad if you don't mind subs.
sigh another video throwing shade at sellen and the primeval sorcerers, the sheer hypocrisy of a tarnished who kills a whole continent to become god complaining about a witch for using a few primal glintstones, and the ranni simping, she is fact the most evil character thousands of times worse than sellen
A Tarnished is just trying to heal the land, whereas Sellen is killing people to turn them into her science projects to play god. Ranni is trying to play god too, and where Sellen's fixation leads her to become another failed "star seed", Ranni is bound by "fates" from the stars that, judging from what Starlight Shards potions do, erase someone's free will. Ranni's own soul is the same light blue as the potion victims and souls ensnared by Fia's necromancy, so she might be trapped as well, with the Dark Moon, the force that commands the stars, able to erase her will at any time, if it's not already trying to control her.
After all, Ranni says she started her plans because she wanted to be free from an empyrean life, yet the stars made her wield the Elden Ring with an "Elden" Lord and even a ring, a la what Mohg tried to force onto Miquella. Ranni has ended up how she may have been in the first place, except now her very soul might be controlled, rather than just her flesh. Heck, the Two Fingers couldn't even seem to rein in Marika, so the Two Fingers might not have an actual way to puppeteer an empyrean to boot.
how is she evil though? you still believe in the miss translation ending? or what? because i only see a girl trying to escape the fate of being a puppet, and she didn't want anyone else suffer the fate like her so she brought a liberation to the lands betweens
@@anhdunghisinh He might think that Ranni's actions in the Night of the Black Knives were unjustified, especially since Ranni never cures the Death Blight plague she creates and thus abandons the world to a hellish existence while she literally runs away from her problems.
@@nightscout9979 i don't think the deathblight is the problem here, There were countless method for people to pass on. The problem is the greater will through golden order monopoly the 'life cycle market" by removing the destined death from the elden ring and proclaim everyone else's methods heresy. As long as we release the destined death and overthrown the greater will, things will come back to normal
Idk about you but I have the option to not murder anyone or anything that has a sense of morals. Arguably the most sane people we have to cut down are Morgott and his daddy but even so one is slightly mad from abuse and the other is more than happy to die if he isn’t good enough. Furthermore, anything you kill in Caelid is really a mercy killing as they’re super infected with rot. Everyone else you have to kill definitely has it coming