These do have a recall on them. After a year my CPU temps at idle started going crazy 70-75 degrees at idle. I reached out for an RMA since it has a 5 year warranty. They informed me they have a recall and will send me a new unit for free, and I dont have to send current unit back. I would reach out if you have issues they have great customer support! All you need is proof of purchase!
Not everybody wants giant RGB inside the case. A tiny little glow however, behind the Black Dark TGlass Fractal case that indicates CPU Temperature would look sweet.
this is one of the prettiest aio blocks i've ever seen and the pump placement looks to be great for bottom mounting in cases where that might otherwise have been the domain of custom loops only
Well. No. There is always air in ur water cooling system. In a custom loop, the air is trapped in the reservoir tank which is placed correctly. With an aio, the radiator is the reservoir in your system. If u put the radiator in the bottom of ur case, than the cooling block is the highest point of mounting in the system. aka their will air trapped in the cooling block. But u dont want air there, where the heat goes to the system... Bottom mounting radiator is a no go for EVERY aio.
"If you're going to have RGB, surely you will kind of want it in your face" Couldn't disagree more. The key to good looking RGB lighting is restraint, in my opinion. I enjoy having nice looking PC lighting but I don't want it to be so strong that it lights up a dark room. I usually buy the RGB versions of most products, all except for fans. If I were to buy this cooler, I'd put some black Noctuas on the radiator and be done. Diffused light, used in tasteful amounts is what makes for the best looking builds.
I'd be curious to see how the Lumen series compares to the Celsius+, there really aren't many videos based on this new line so cheers for doing this review!
My Fractal Celsius+ S24 I've had for only a year started to have pump whine. Had it front mounted with tubes down on the radiator, thought this was the better set up? Anyways I flipped it and the sound stopped for a few days and well now it constantly clicks sounding like an issue with air trapped at the top of the radiator. I loved it while it was silent, but now I'm either going to grab the the Lumen or a different brand all together. Note, I have been running my system around the clock since march so that might have had something to do with the issues coming on so quickly in it's life.
@@alekm8294 Sadly, having it front mounted with the tubes down is one of the worst thing you can do to an AIO. Any air that might exist within the closed system is going to get trapped in the pump block. The best way to mount an AIO is always to make sure to have the tube connection to the rad mounted HIGHER than the pump block, which will ensure that any air with travel to the top of the rad rather than to get trapped in the pump block.
Word of warning, even though thebpump is inside the radiator, continue to mount it as recommended. Do not install it vertically, mine failed after almost two years. The Tubing will still have a hard time moving water and the pump as well. Somehow my pump still reads as its working but my idle temps are super hogh
There is a recall on these BTW. Mine started giving me super hot temps 70-75 degrees at idle and they are sending me a new one with no need to send previous one back. Long as you have proof of purchase. Something to look into, I submitted the form on their website. Even if you've got another cooler could still recoup some costs with the replacement or put into a secondary build or something. just a thought. I bought a Strix ROG cooler, might just keep the fractal for a secondary build down the line personally.
Great review, lacking only the test of the S28 model. Have you by any chance tested that also after the review? If so, how is it compared to the others temperature and noisewise?
5:38, I would love to see your measurements as Fractal pump is locked to 4k rpm (+/- 10%) and EK's pump spins at 850 - 2600 RPM ± 10% range and is PWM.
good review, funny enough i like it way more when the cpu block RGB is turned off. How is the pump noise? Any whining or weird noises? Trying to decide on a 360 aio for 5900x
in our country we only have 240 rad atm but jesus that cpu block looks so nice , might go aio for the first time and the price is also good wich is 123euro for the rgb version and 112 for the nonrgb.
Returned the 360mm version, the pump was very loud. So loud I couldnť tolerate it. Is is possible pump was defective since noise was higher pitch rather then humm. Didn´t matter the orientation.
Are the Lian Li SL Uni Fans compatible with the radiators on this? I'm planning on using the S28 with SL140s and it'd be a big help to know if they're compatible before buying them.
I couldn't care less about the rgb as long as my computer works and the front facing fans light up because my adhd brain loves that haha. Not going to be able to see all the internal lights where my computer is placed anyways
These do have a recall on them. After a year my CPU temps at idle started going crazy 70-75 degrees at idle. I reached out for an RMA since it has a 5 year warranty. They informed me they have a recall and will send me a new unit for free, and I dont have to send current unit back. I would reach out if you have issues they have great customer support! All you need is proof of purchase!
Not everybody wants giant RGB inside the case.
A tiny little glow however, behind the Black Dark TGlass Fractal case that indicates CPU Temperature would look sweet.
this is one of the prettiest aio blocks i've ever seen and the pump placement looks to be great for bottom mounting in cases where that might otherwise have been the domain of custom loops only
Well. No. There is always air in ur water cooling system. In a custom loop, the air is trapped in the reservoir tank which is placed correctly. With an aio, the radiator is the reservoir in your system. If u put the radiator in the bottom of ur case, than the cooling block is the highest point of mounting in the system. aka their will air trapped in the cooling block. But u dont want air there, where the heat goes to the system...
Bottom mounting radiator is a no go for EVERY aio.
@@chibiribiri I don't even remember this video but if I left this comment I feel safe assuming he explained something that makes you wrong about this
"If you're going to have RGB, surely you will kind of want it in your face"
Couldn't disagree more. The key to good looking RGB lighting is restraint, in my opinion. I enjoy having nice looking PC lighting but I don't want it to be so strong that it lights up a dark room. I usually buy the RGB versions of most products, all except for fans. If I were to buy this cooler, I'd put some black Noctuas on the radiator and be done. Diffused light, used in tasteful amounts is what makes for the best looking builds.
5:58 for anyone reading this... believe it or not but if I want to get a Noctua air cooler over a one of those AIOs... that would be +20 euros.
putting the pump in the radiator is such a good solution!
I'd be curious to see how the Lumen series compares to the Celsius+, there really aren't many videos based on this new line so cheers for doing this review!
My Fractal Celsius+ S24 I've had for only a year started to have pump whine. Had it front mounted with tubes down on the radiator, thought this was the better set up? Anyways I flipped it and the sound stopped for a few days and well now it constantly clicks sounding like an issue with air trapped at the top of the radiator. I loved it while it was silent, but now I'm either going to grab the the Lumen or a different brand all together. Note, I have been running my system around the clock since march so that might have had something to do with the issues coming on so quickly in it's life.
@@alekm8294 Sadly, having it front mounted with the tubes down is one of the worst thing you can do to an AIO. Any air that might exist within the closed system is going to get trapped in the pump block. The best way to mount an AIO is always to make sure to have the tube connection to the rad mounted HIGHER than the pump block, which will ensure that any air with travel to the top of the rad rather than to get trapped in the pump block.
Word of warning, even though thebpump is inside the radiator, continue to mount it as recommended. Do not install it vertically, mine failed after almost two years. The Tubing will still have a hard time moving water and the pump as well.
Somehow my pump still reads as its working but my idle temps are super hogh
There is a recall on these BTW. Mine started giving me super hot temps 70-75 degrees at idle and they are sending me a new one with no need to send previous one back. Long as you have proof of purchase. Something to look into, I submitted the form on their website. Even if you've got another cooler could still recoup some costs with the replacement or put into a secondary build or something. just a thought. I bought a Strix ROG cooler, might just keep the fractal for a secondary build down the line personally.
@Seechase_ yeah I saw that and submitted my claim. I'll be getting a replacement soon. Thank you!
@@rudy_dstroys1821 awesome! Glad you’re getting a new one too!
Great review, lacking only the test of the S28 model. Have you by any chance tested that also after the review? If so, how is it compared to the others temperature and noisewise?
On sale at SCAN UK for £79 for the 240mm version in their Black Friday offers
What cooler are you using at the moment? Air? AIO or even custom loop?
deepcool castle v2 rgb, performs alright, not keen on all the rgbssss though
NH U12A I love the cooler
Only thing keeping it from perfection is the lack of a Chromax version
@@connor2155 Same for my ryzen 2600
planning on grabbing the arctic freezer II 240mm a-rgb for my 5800x
i'm rocking the intel stock cooler B)
5:38, I would love to see your measurements as Fractal pump is locked to 4k rpm (+/- 10%) and EK's pump spins at 850 - 2600 RPM ± 10% range and is PWM.
That's maybe beacuse of a different pump type.
good review, funny enough i like it way more when the cpu block RGB is turned off. How is the pump noise? Any whining or weird noises? Trying to decide on a 360 aio for 5900x
there is a non-rgb block version.
in our country we only have 240 rad atm but jesus that cpu block looks so nice , might go aio for the first time and the price is also good wich is 123euro for the rgb version and 112 for the nonrgb.
Returned the 360mm version, the pump was very loud. So loud I couldnť tolerate it. Is is possible pump was defective since noise was higher pitch rather then humm. Didn´t matter the orientation.
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 or Fractal Lumen 360?
Are the Lian Li SL Uni Fans compatible with the radiators on this? I'm planning on using the S28 with SL140s and it'd be a big help to know if they're compatible before buying them.
What cpu did he you use at this cooler????
The table you show at 6:10 says the 240mm should be a penny shy of 95 quid? But on Amazon it's 150?
That’s a marketplace seller. Look at Scan for better normal pricing. Amazon will get better once other sellers stock it on there.
Will this cooler work with intel 12th gen motherboard?
I couldn't care less about the rgb as long as my computer works and the front facing fans light up because my adhd brain loves that haha. Not going to be able to see all the internal lights where my computer is placed anyways
Install the radiator in the bottom of the case of course 🤣🤣🤣
I love nitro ;)
Ahhh when everything else became retardely expensive....!!! these companies dont just produce AIO yeh?
sus
whats sus about it
@@WELSHYTECH yes