they keep commentating like white fox is syrox but white fox is leffen. 4:15 on they're commenting on white fox's super "syrox" option, but it's leffen doing it lol
I have never heard of these commentators but I would take them over all of the big name commentators any day. These guys were knowledgeable and analytic. Instead, we get to hear Scar screaming like an idiot for the duration of Grand Finals at most tournaments.
globalHell despite some tournaments this year, I wouldn't consider Hbox to be a demon of leffen. 2017 was Hbox's best year without a doubt and not one player was positive or neutral in sets with him, except leffen who was neutral. But I see where you're coming from
While Syrox has the nuttiest tech-skill, Leffen just plays extremely efficient, he can't do the crazy stuff Syrox is capable of, but overall, he's by far the better player
Cedric LeTherisien you're probably right, and that just adds to leffen's decision making and overall knowledge of the game, my point was that you don't need to be a button pressing monster (even though leffen has that skill) in order to be a good melee player
I think while Syrox is amazing with his tech skill and combos, his neutral has always been super weak because he is used to zero to deathing most people and overwhelming them with tech. The major difference between him and say Hax in his prime, or Westballz is that Hax and Wes know when to go crazy and when to really just pull back and bait something or just take the simple hit to get them offstage to kill. Syrox seems like he is too worried about his combos and tech to focus as much on when to do something, and he picks the fastest option rather then the most practical in a lot of scenarios where Leffen just waits to see what Syrox is trying to do and then punishes him for it.
I dont think syrox's neutral is weak by any means, its actually very good. Syrox is actually pretty smart, but theres levels and leffen is the fox ditto master. And sometimes when someone is just beating you in every exchange, it can look as ugly as this. Leffen reallly made syrox look lost this set lmao
Spacing, conditioning, pattern recognitions, baiting/mindgames, and understanding his win conditions...while also keeping the match at his pace. Game Knowledge on a deeper level tbh. Better neutral game, punish game.
There are levels
amen
I really enjoyed the knowledgeable commentary. Wish we could hear more of you guys
Who are these commentators? They did a really good job, keep the good work guys
erick diaz one of them is dunk
they keep commentating like white fox is syrox but white fox is leffen. 4:15 on they're commenting on white fox's super "syrox" option, but it's leffen doing it lol
They're Dunk and Bob$
...no that was syrox. Syrox ledge dashes at 4:10 and then does a short hop falling upair to cover an on stage side b.
This is an incredible set to me, syrox is so damn technical, and leffen showing us fundamentals is all you need
When I saw [Neutral] in the title I was like "isn't leffen chaotic evil?"
4:14 goes for "that's very syrox-esque", spaghetties and says "thats very syrox...sex"
😂😂😂
jesus 3 stock 3 stock jv 4 leffen hitting my boy with the tombstone
Syrox's beard is giving me the whillies
Where were these commentators the other times? Well done guys
Dont you like commentators who just use the same 5 catch phrases and dont actually explain what's going on in the match?? /s
I have never heard of these commentators but I would take them over all of the big name commentators any day. These guys were knowledgeable and analytic. Instead, we get to hear Scar screaming like an idiot for the duration of Grand Finals at most tournaments.
Leffens been looking clean.
Lyons Valley 3rd place at multiple majors recently
+Adams99 his only demons ATM are Hbox and plup
globalHell despite some tournaments this year, I wouldn't consider Hbox to be a demon of leffen. 2017 was Hbox's best year without a doubt and not one player was positive or neutral in sets with him, except leffen who was neutral. But I see where you're coming from
leffen's punish game is fuckign insane
sets like these really remind you how fuckin good leffen is, he doesnt drop shit
the disappointment from leffen means he saw what syrox was trying to do and he wasn't pulling it off. It's like leff was sad syrox wasn't playing well
While Syrox has the nuttiest tech-skill, Leffen just plays extremely efficient, he can't do the crazy stuff Syrox is capable of, but overall, he's by far the better player
1994jbg Honestly I'm pretty sure Leffen could do all the crazy stuff Syrox does. He just doesn't cuz there's no point.
Cedric LeTherisien you're probably right, and that just adds to leffen's decision making and overall knowledge of the game, my point was that you don't need to be a button pressing monster (even though leffen has that skill) in order to be a good melee player
1994jbg yea, I 100% agree.
I think while Syrox is amazing with his tech skill and combos, his neutral has always been super weak because he is used to zero to deathing most people and overwhelming them with tech. The major difference between him and say Hax in his prime, or Westballz is that Hax and Wes know when to go crazy and when to really just pull back and bait something or just take the simple hit to get them offstage to kill. Syrox seems like he is too worried about his combos and tech to focus as much on when to do something, and he picks the fastest option rather then the most practical in a lot of scenarios where Leffen just waits to see what Syrox is trying to do and then punishes him for it.
I dont think syrox's neutral is weak by any means, its actually very good. Syrox is actually pretty smart, but theres levels and leffen is the fox ditto master. And sometimes when someone is just beating you in every exchange, it can look as ugly as this. Leffen reallly made syrox look lost this set lmao
Leffen almost looking like borp compared to syrox
2:09 weird leffen wink?
Big leff
all the rookies got rekt this tournament, shame
zain did pretty good. just unfortunate loss to wizzy
One piece
How does leffen not get out played considering syrox should be better at movement?
Spacing, conditioning, pattern recognitions, baiting/mindgames, and understanding his win conditions...while also keeping the match at his pace. Game Knowledge on a deeper level tbh. Better neutral game, punish game.
Leffen is just amazing my guy