Bad experiences with police throughout my life but was never involved in serious stuff that would have Tony and his colleagues after me thank god.. my dislike for the police certainly ain't against Tony and his unit and can honestly say I feel for him... what a tough job that must have been. If you run around with shooters then you have to accept these kind of guys will be on your case and so they should be, hats off to you Tony never thought ad say that about q copper👍 respect
Great conversation. It looks like he should never have gone under that civil judge. To carry an MP5 has to come with serious consequences if you act outside of ROE. This man was doing his job. Thank you for your service Tony. Hope you gave a part 2 in you
@johnmercer3571 yes blame sadiq Khan not any of the white prime ministers we have. Or any of his office 😂😂😂 even though this happened when the brown guy wasn't even mayor 😂😂
@@johnmercer3571 what a joke. It’s a number of things but mostly that our police have their hands ties and naturally fear being blamed racists and ending up like this man.
Very interesting podcast, absolutely glued to every detail of this and his story on that case is crazy. Done his job and he got such unnecessary stick. Credit to tony
It’s refreshing to here this kind of story form the other side. The press love to blame the Police and make out the person shot was innocent and murdered. From a blue to a blue, huge respect to Tony and those who choose to carry.
Not sure why this doesn’t have as many views as others but this was a great pod, I’m a Brit and love listening to this format of podcast which there is plenty of in the US but, I have to say, Dodge you’re doing a brilliant job of getting British stories out there. Huge respect
Thanks Dodge, Reminded me of the 70/80s in Northern Ireland this, the decision when you can and can’t shoot, this case and the facts surrounding it I think he may have delayed a little longer pulling the trigger looking back however he will never admit that as he would of been found guilty by some out there. Thanks Dodge another classic interview by you and your team. 😊
Another good podcast dodge they say don’t f-k with the armed response unit cuss it’s bang bang on sight split second decisions under difficult situations like it or not these men roll straight towards the fight and meet fire with fire
I remember this shooting like it was yesterday. I lived no more then half a mile from the incident, It was outside rge Railway Tavern pub, which I used to go to sometimes. Great interview Dodge, no B/S,and Tony was the same, just spoke well and told us the facts.
Thanks for the transparency. I feel your pain to a lesser extent. Mine ended my career, although I was acquitted ..... looking at years inside .... you start to question yourself. The ipcc interviews are oppressive and not pace compliant in hindsight. My heads f##ked now and im to ill to work Well done for getting your life back
I was in a court case for the first time video evidence was used in a court of law, in Scotland anyway. My interpretation, recollection of the incident was not what was on the footage but it still proved my innocence in the end.
Not a Fan of the plod but they have a job to do .. feel for the firearms officers tho .. if your running around thinking it’s the Wild West and your on their radar for access to firearms they will come for you .. make a wrong move and you can die .. don’t run around with these gangs and keep away from it and you’ll be fine
Couldn’t have said it better. My friend is serving 10 years for conversion of firearms. I was involved at the very start. Due to just coming back from Afghanistan. I didn’t realise how illegal firearms was. Just didn’t think they would come for a guy like me. Ex SFSG. Many many shots on target myself. A lot of doors kicked in for this country. (If you can say that anymore). If it wasn’t for my wife saying you’re being stupid. Get away. Bla bla. I stopped out of respect. 4 months later he’s taken down by terror squad and served 10 years. I get a knock from them too. Told them what my initial intentions was. They said you so lucky you never converted and just had the blank firers. Took two glock 17 blanks away from me and that was that. Very very very lucky. No matter your experience with said firearms They are still illegal. Even for someone who used them on the daily. In anger. On operations. Overseas. Keep away from all of this. No good at all. If you like guns. Go to USA and become a citizen.
I don't feel for them. As an ex squaddie I know they always shoot to kill, you could say everything happens so fast, maybe sometimes but not every incident. They shoot to kill, everytime, it pisses me off.
I was in jail with Harry Roberts, when he was in for the murders I was next door to him on the rutland unit at HMP Ashwell, not there anymore think it’s been knocked down for housing but what a lovely man proper bloke
@vinnie1350 did you listen to it, why didn't he say Pakistani men then, made it sound like Northerers can be nonces and their identity is kept quiet, frightened to say it as it is?
Unfortunately lessons don’t appear to have been learned since his time. I’m amazed they are able to keep recruiting and that cops sense of duty still pushes them to volunteer. After hearing his tale there is no way I’d ever do that job or encourage another to do it either.
Great choice of guest… imagine getting on a sesh with him and hearing it all… fascinating career and life!!!.. on a slightly darker note I’m not even close to being convinced Rodney deserved that!! ? .. I don’t think I ever will be sadly .. great podcast Dodge ❤
@@Drainingtheswamp2022 he would only be called when people are in position of firearms by definition!.. leaning down was more than likely trying to hide his work fone or drugs under the seat so no I still think it was over the top!
Thanks Tony for your service to the public of this country,we need more coppers like you. What a waste of money taking Tony to court all because these people can’t behave like the vast majority of the population of this country
Any kids thinking of getting into gangs and crime, remember if you carry a knife or gun, you cant complain if you get those weapons used on you. best way is to not get involved at all find something you are good at a skill where you can make money legitimately a trade like joiner plumber etc or even online business and you can live a decent life without looking over your shoulder
"Seventeen civilian witnesses on the tube carriage said they heard no warning. Some police said the same." Jean Charles De Menezez was executed by the UK military, not the police and using bullets police do not use and shot seven times with at least 5, 6, 7 seconds between each shot. The so-called police shooter/patsy(obviously willing) was moved and do your own research.
I find this one difficult, for me it seems as though he hasnt been tried or judged like a normal guy, having the home secrety involved and laws changed along with the redacted statements..... you were always going to be found not guilty, the government and the Met wouldnt have it any other way, Im unsure if you are innocent but you've most definitely not been treated the way you should have.
That’s because he wasn’t a normal guy, he had a licence to kill. -------- The *real* licences to kill issued by the United Kingdom state 29th October 2021 What would be a ‘licence to kill’? The word ‘licence’ is familiar - but is also important. At law, a licence is not - say - a mere endorsement or an encouragement. It is not really just a bare permission (which can be for something you are permitted to do anyway). A licence is a permission to do a thing that otherwise would be unlawful - but for that licence. It is, in effect, the get out of jail card - or at least a get out of any liability card, either criminal or civil. So, for example, a licence will stop a person in another person’s field from being sued for trespass, or a software user from being sued for copyright infringement for using another proprietary software. Or a licence will stop you from being prosecuted for driving a car on the public highway - or even for watching everyday programmes on an everyday television. And so on. Licences are the signifiers of the sheer extent of the prohibitions around us. They are permissions to do things that are otherwise banned. * A ‘licence to kill’ would be a permission to kill another person that otherwise would lead to the killer incurring criminal and/or civil liability for that killing. In essence: to kill without legal consequence. You may think that a ‘licence to kill’ is the fictional stuff of James Bond and other spy thrillers. But, in legal fact, they exist in the law of the United Kingdom - and they are multiplying. They are not formally called ‘licences to kill’, of course - and they are not numbered sequentially (as far as we know) - but they do exist.
Didnt he say hed shot 5 people? What about the other three. While i have no sympathy with drug dealers and gangsters, Im wondering 8f this guy is a bit trigger happy.
Imagine if Kev was in the back of that car and some of his associates? Do you think the outcome would've been the same, I do like Kev but back in the day he was just a deadly as the dead drug dealer. Just a thought " free Kev"
Tony Long is a gung ho liability. When he opened fire during the hard stop his bullets travelled through the car and missed a man with baby daughter in a pram by inches, and also through a window in to a pub.
Another great interview a lot of police use metal health to cover up there wrong doing or failure to investigate complaints. He seems to be quite a mater of fact about taking a life, i have some experience of Lewisham cid i was assaulted on the way home from a pub police caught the idevidual but because as i later found out the thug that assaulted me was a relative of one of the cid involved in the case they did not do a proper investigation or collect evidence namely CCTV
@@DJR1409who knows.. but you are innocent until proven guilty I’m afraid & strangely enough we have judges & jury’s to decide that… The UK old bill have been executing people since the 70’s & getting away with it every single time…
No please don't give Tommy R any airtime, he as nothing interesting to say except what was already said back in the eighties, he speaks for what was a dying breed back then, now dead in it's entirety besides him and his 10/15 Balaclava sporting lumps that turn up to protect little tom with his big mouth.
Another fascinating interview thanks! If we had cops like this guy today we wouldn't be putting up with the SHITE we have on Britain's streets today! "Evenin' All"
These type of guests are way more interesting then criminals
Totally agree
@@paulhamblin2707ABSOLUTELY 💯🇬🇧🏴
Fascinating get more of these people on. Far more interesting than some plastic or wannabe gangster.
Top guest Dodge, I take my hat off to Tony, massive respect for his honesty, and for doing a very difficult job
Bad experiences with police throughout my life but was never involved in serious stuff that would have Tony and his colleagues after me thank god.. my dislike for the police certainly ain't against Tony and his unit and can honestly say I feel for him... what a tough job that must have been.
If you run around with shooters then you have to accept these kind of guys will be on your case and so they should be, hats off to you Tony never thought ad say that about q copper👍 respect
Heard Tony's story before. Legend.
This will be an epic podcast guys!
Cheers Dodge. 👍💪❤️
Up there with the best podcasts. Gripping story telling. Congrats Dodge, letting the stories flow really allowed us to be there in the moment.
Great conversation. It looks like he should never have gone under that civil judge. To carry an MP5 has to come with serious consequences if you act outside of ROE. This man was doing his job. Thank you for your service Tony. Hope you gave a part 2 in you
Disgraceful that he even had to face a murder charge. Shows how much of a joke this country has become.
I agree. Sadie Khan blames the lack of youth clubs and mobile phone manufacturers for crime.
@johnmercer3571 yes blame sadiq Khan not any of the white prime ministers we have. Or any of his office 😂😂😂 even though this happened when the brown guy wasn't even mayor 😂😂
@@johnmercer3571 what a joke. It’s a number of things but mostly that our police have their hands ties and naturally fear being blamed racists and ending up like this man.
So thankful to those who put themselves in harms way to keep us safe.
its not often i am glued to every minute of a podcast like this one .
Are you sure . 🍻
As being a former inmate and hearing about going in a sweatbox brings shivers as its one of the first moments you realise your liberty is gone
These podcasts just keep getting better Dodge, nice one!
Great interview Dodge 👏👏👏👏👌
Very interesting podcast, absolutely glued to every detail of this and his story on that case is crazy. Done his job and he got such unnecessary stick. Credit to tony
Aye right ye are
Loved this podcast , it demonstrates clearly how we need the police and what a dangerous profession policing is … many thanks to the “ good” ones ..
It’s refreshing to here this kind of story form the other side. The press love to blame the Police and make out the person shot was innocent and murdered.
From a blue to a blue, huge respect to Tony and those who choose to carry.
The Harry Roberts song went through Dodges head when he said his name 😂.
Great interview Dodge, keep it up! 👍🏼
Love the content man 🔥🔥
Not sure why this doesn’t have as many views as others but this was a great pod, I’m a Brit and love listening to this format of podcast which there is plenty of in the US but, I have to say, Dodge you’re doing a brilliant job of getting British stories out there. Huge respect
Wow 🤩 Thanks guys that’s this evening sorted 🇬🇧👍👍❤️
Good afternoon, fella. Another very interesting video. All the best, mate. God bless.💪❤️💎👍
Hi Dodge, another great podcast, well done
Thanks Dodge, Reminded me of
the 70/80s in Northern Ireland this, the decision when you can and can’t shoot, this case and the facts surrounding it I think he may have delayed a little longer pulling the trigger looking back however he will never admit that as he would of been found guilty by some out there. Thanks Dodge another classic interview by you and your team. 😊
Bloody Sunday ring a bell 🔔 as a republican the 6 counties ie North of Ireland 🇮🇪 was a war zone
That's an hour and 3/4 which has just flown by, excellent podcast.
Very good guest Dodge, excellent interview 👍
Another good podcast dodge they say don’t f-k with the armed response unit cuss it’s bang bang on sight split second decisions under difficult situations like it or not these men roll straight towards the fight and meet fire with fire
Love these types of podcasts cheers dodge
What a guy and a brilliant interview
Hi dodge... fantastic episode...these guys have a very difficult job to do.
Great Chanel Great interview 🇬🇧
This dude seems straight up. Great interview.
I remember this shooting like it was yesterday. I lived no more then half a mile from the incident, It was outside rge Railway Tavern pub, which I used to go to sometimes.
Great interview Dodge, no B/S,and Tony was the same, just spoke well and told us the facts.
Very interesting podcast having to take home your actions from just doing a job that could an can potentially change your life. Respect 🙏 to him
Thanks for the transparency. I feel your pain to a lesser extent. Mine ended my career, although I was acquitted ..... looking at years inside .... you start to question yourself. The ipcc interviews are oppressive and not pace compliant in hindsight.
My heads f##ked now and im to ill to work
Well done for getting your life back
🙏
My mate bought me his book years ago, good story good podcast👍
Great episode
Amazing radio voice!
Wow Dodge great podcast mate top bloke
Great episode. Harry Robert’s was sentenced to 30 yrs did 48 controversy released on life long license 87 now
Man what a story!
I was in a court case for the first time video evidence was used in a court of law, in Scotland anyway. My interpretation, recollection of the incident was not what was on the footage but it still proved my innocence in the end.
Hey Dodge off topic Iv just watched sidemen swap lives is that you in the ideas room ?
Dodge, can u try get mark Williams Thomas on or Peter faulding! Keep smashing it mate 👊
Not a Fan of the plod but they have a job to do .. feel for the firearms officers tho .. if your running around thinking it’s the Wild West and your on their radar for access to firearms they will come for you .. make a wrong move and you can die .. don’t run around with these gangs and keep away from it and you’ll be fine
I feel the same. They walk a fine line.
Couldn’t have said it better. My friend is serving 10 years for conversion of firearms. I was involved at the very start. Due to just coming back from Afghanistan. I didn’t realise how illegal firearms was. Just didn’t think they would come for a guy like me. Ex SFSG. Many many shots on target myself. A lot of doors kicked in for this country. (If you can say that anymore). If it wasn’t for my wife saying you’re being stupid. Get away. Bla bla. I stopped out of respect. 4 months later he’s taken down by terror squad and served 10 years. I get a knock from them too. Told them what my initial intentions was. They said you so lucky you never converted and just had the blank firers. Took two glock 17 blanks away from me and that was that. Very very very lucky. No matter your experience with said firearms They are still illegal. Even for someone who used them on the daily. In anger. On operations. Overseas. Keep away from all of this. No good at all. If you like guns. Go to USA and become a citizen.
I don't feel for them. As an ex squaddie I know they always shoot to kill, you could say everything happens so fast, maybe sometimes but not every incident. They shoot to kill, everytime, it pisses me off.
I was in jail with Harry Roberts, when he was in for the murders I was next door to him on the rutland unit at HMP Ashwell, not there anymore think it’s been knocked down for housing but what a lovely man proper bloke
How old are you 99
i lived across the park in Northolt, my sister was across the street in an opposit balcony, we were up there watching it happen.
Why does he say child sex offenders in the North of the country can remain anonymous, is it different in the South like
@vinnie1350 did you listen to it, why didn't he say Pakistani men then, made it sound like Northerers can be nonces and their identity is kept quiet, frightened to say it as it is?
Unfortunately lessons don’t appear to have been learned since his time. I’m amazed they are able to keep recruiting and that cops sense of duty still pushes them to volunteer. After hearing his tale there is no way I’d ever do that job or encourage another to do it either.
If you think Tony had a great story you wanna get that Shaye Doyle on the program.
Great choice of guest… imagine getting on a sesh with him and hearing it all… fascinating career and life!!!.. on a slightly darker note I’m not even close to being convinced Rodney deserved that!! ? .. I don’t think I ever will be sadly .. great podcast Dodge ❤
Intelligence he was in possession of automatic weapons...... reaches down when challenged by firearms officers......
@@Drainingtheswamp2022 he would only be called when people are in position of firearms by definition!.. leaning down was more than likely trying to hide his work fone or drugs under the seat so no I still think it was over the top!
‘it’s not the critic that counts’…..
@@Handsolowe or even less the pseudo philosopher
@@Bobbibouchersmumwasright those that know know. Those that don’t don’t. 😉
Nice interview Tony, Andy was 14(2)
His book is an excellent read
Could listen to Tony all day - interesting chap.
Thanks Tony for your service to the public of this country,we need more coppers like you. What a waste of money taking Tony to court all because these people can’t behave like the vast majority of the population of this country
Any kids thinking of getting into gangs and crime, remember if you carry a knife or gun, you cant complain if you get those weapons used on you. best way is to not get involved at all find something you are good at a skill where you can make money legitimately a trade like joiner plumber etc or even online business and you can live a decent life without looking over your shoulder
Thankyou Tony and Dodge now we know
Mark wasnt shot in hackney he was shot in Tottenham
"Seventeen civilian witnesses on the tube carriage said they heard no warning. Some police said the same." Jean Charles De Menezez was executed by the UK military, not the police and using bullets police do not use and shot seven times with at least 5, 6, 7 seconds between each shot. The so-called police shooter/patsy(obviously willing) was moved and do your own research.
The bloke was lying before he even became a Copper!!!! He was always gonna fit right into the Met ! 😅 😂
I'm shocked truly shocked at the demographic of the shooting
Alot of these guys listen to crap drill and rap... combined with no support from home and the chance of a quick pound note .. what chance do thwy have
Cracking story
I find this one difficult, for me it seems as though he hasnt been tried or judged like a normal guy, having the home secrety involved and laws changed along with the redacted statements..... you were always going to be found not guilty, the government and the Met wouldnt have it any other way, Im unsure if you are innocent but you've most definitely not been treated the way you should have.
That’s because he wasn’t a normal guy, he had a licence to kill.
--------
The *real* licences to kill issued by the United Kingdom state
29th October 2021
What would be a ‘licence to kill’?
The word ‘licence’ is familiar - but is also important.
At law, a licence is not - say - a mere endorsement or an encouragement.
It is not really just a bare permission (which can be for something you are permitted to do anyway).
A licence is a permission to do a thing that otherwise would be unlawful - but for that licence.
It is, in effect, the get out of jail card - or at least a get out of any liability card, either criminal or civil.
So, for example, a licence will stop a person in another person’s field from being sued for trespass, or a software user from being sued for copyright infringement for using another proprietary software.
Or a licence will stop you from being prosecuted for driving a car on the public highway - or even for watching everyday programmes on an everyday television.
And so on.
Licences are the signifiers of the sheer extent of the prohibitions around us.
They are permissions to do things that are otherwise banned.
*
A ‘licence to kill’ would be a permission to kill another person that otherwise would lead to the killer incurring criminal and/or civil liability for that killing.
In essence: to kill without legal consequence.
You may think that a ‘licence to kill’ is the fictional stuff of James Bond and other spy thrillers.
But, in legal fact, they exist in the law of the United Kingdom - and they are multiplying.
They are not formally called ‘licences to kill’, of course - and they are not numbered sequentially (as far as we know) - but they do exist.
Didnt he say hed shot 5 people? What about the other three. While i have no sympathy with drug dealers and gangsters, Im wondering 8f this guy is a bit trigger happy.
Yup, shot a man in the back according to Fred Forman.
If I remember rightly there was no guns at all though.
It seems you haven’t remembered correctly.
@@leemiguel3437😂😂😂
Interesting guest you know hes not bull shitting to make himself look good like some criminals you've had on in the past
go on dodge your on it
Imagine if Kev was in the back of that car and some of his associates? Do you think the outcome would've been the same, I do like Kev but back in the day he was just a deadly as the dead drug dealer.
Just a thought " free Kev"
Dodge you must get the Chinook Crew Chick on
Yes already speaking to her 🚁
Play with fire and your……
Tony Long is a gung ho liability. When he opened fire during the hard stop his bullets travelled through the car and missed a man with baby daughter in a pram by inches, and also through a window in to a pub.
Take from your vast experience playing call
Of duty is it
@@macca696 - nope; from a good friend working for the IPCC.
Maybe nearly shooting a child in a pram is a ‘pro’ move in your mind?
Another great interview a lot of police use metal health to cover up there wrong doing or failure to investigate complaints. He seems to be quite a mater of fact about taking a life, i have some experience of Lewisham cid i was assaulted on the way home from a pub police caught the idevidual but because as i later found out the thug that assaulted me was a relative of one of the cid involved in the case they did not do a proper investigation or collect evidence namely CCTV
Karisma of wet weekend this guy! He certainly ain’t no Peter Blexley!
‘Charisma’
Typical copper the way he speak
So this guy murdered an unarmed man. And got away with it.
That’s quite a simplistic version.
Another Legalised murder from the untouchables..
Really??
@@lovesmusic5504what would you call shooting someone 8 times in the back while he sat in a car then?
@@garyguest1885 Just on the way to church having come back from volunteering at the local soup kitchen. Shocking scenes.
@@DJR1409who knows.. but you are innocent until proven guilty I’m afraid & strangely enough we have judges & jury’s to decide that… The UK old bill have been executing people since the 70’s & getting away with it every single time…
How did he let that little girl get stabbed 🤔😩 missed his shots point blank range! Call himself a marksman 😩😆
Dodgiest mob in London
Get Tommy Robinson on the show …
No please don't give Tommy R any airtime, he as nothing interesting to say except what was already said back in the eighties, he speaks for what was a dying breed back then, now dead in it's entirety besides him and his 10/15 Balaclava sporting lumps that turn up to protect little tom with his big mouth.
Usual, Old bill. Why is this person on here?. Lot of natural talking. You haven't asked him a question yet Dodge.
This the one where the screw shot the Brazilian boy
Mark duggan was murdered , simple as that . Where is justice for his family, he never even had a firearm 😢
Oh come on mate. He was known to trident for carrying guns. Guy played a stupid game and lost.
@@user-od9dw2hk5o is that justification to kill someone? Would you say the same if it was your relatives or partner 🤔
@@JoeGlass-gr2sh defending gangsters never works mate
@user-od9dw2hk5o you can't just murder people on the street for nothing, it could be you or me next ?
He would have stabbed and shot you for stepping on his trainers in a club. Why you defending him? 🤡
Dodge contact me if you want to hear from one of the people who survived this legal gunman
Recorded a while back and just released?
Another fascinating interview thanks! If we had cops like this guy today we wouldn't be putting up with the SHITE we have on Britain's streets today! "Evenin' All"
🤌👍EPIC PC Dodge! 🎉🎉🎉 All the very best wishes to you and your guest this afternoon 😊🕊️🕊️