£5.5k is too much. I paid £1600 for my 99 Spider 2.0TS in January. Done the cambelt, thermostat, radiator and down pipe and a bit of cosmtic work. Eveything works, no missing trim bits, even the ash tray works!
If it's never been welded and doesn't require any welding then it's a good base upon which to build a really nice spider from. Right now, with all the work needing doing it's a sub £1000 car though.
Wasn't aware t.s spiders were at that level of value yet, maybe 2 -2500 might be ok but 5500 seems alot when it needs work aswell, hold out for another.
They are not, despite the noise around them being appreciating classics. Parts availabity s becoming big problem and some part prices are getting silly. Faded red ones are particularly challenging becuase they look awful but require 1000s to sort. In the real world this is a 1.5K car. A pristine TS is £6k in the real world..
£5,500 is a lot for that car, I was thinking mine with 55K on the clock, and in way better condition that that, might be worth that sort of money at a push if I put it up for sale in the Spring. That one's a £2K/£2.5K car at best.
I bought my Spider in July for less and it had the suspension & belts all sorted, a recent respray (& a good one). Recommissioned from SORN. Has needed a radiator and power steering hose. When I looked around a few similar to mine so £3.5k-£4k gets you a nicer example, get one of them instead.
Purchased my 02 plate spider in 2015 for £2700 sold it in 2020 for £2375. It's a £3000 car maximum. My black spider had similar fading paint. Then the engine fan packed up and it was time to sell. Great looking car, not particularly quick.
Those rear spring pans are renowned for rotting out from the top side, they get covered in dirt and rot out. If they fail the back end hits the road supposedly.
There’s a sticker on the expansion tank that says “Do not add water Evans waterless coolant”. Could that explain the funny colour? As for £5.5k. Not of my money. Typical patched up 90s fare. Saveable but with a lot of time and effort.
Answer is NO, add another 2k-3k and buy a Spider v6.. I see were the prices are going in EU and it aint normal. These are still used cars, at the end you wil end at around 10k if you want to make it Look and run perfect.
Bit minty at that price but given how solid the car is hopefully it'll be a good long term investment on a personal note I was looking to buy a gtv around 5yrs ago but got an alfa gt cloverleaf for around the same price as a gtv which was a lot older and I absolutely love my gt it's amazing puts a big smile ☺ on my face everytime i drive it
While in my view it isn't a £500 car it also isn't a 5K car (in the UK) at least. I've recently finished doing a full nut and bolt resto on a 1996 Ph 1 Spider and so have a inkling (as I'm sure Neil does) how much this car will cost to get it into a half decent state even doing it all yourself. You'll be into the thick end of £9K if you pay £5K for this, probably more if the sills are rusty under those covers.
I don't know much about the Spider market, but it "feels" overpriced especially in today's market, however, very much worth sorting out. Neil could turn it into a very nice car.
At that price, it reminds me of the Harry Enfield sketch; "I saw you coming". At 5.5k, I would be expecting much more. Price seems based on the fact it has new tyres and a stainless exhaust! Would have liked to see Neil prod a screwdriver into that heavy and new underseal on the front of the inner sills.
Personally, I've never been convinced by the styling of the Spider (the GTV is more appealing to me) but I've never driven either. I'd love to hear thoughts on the Spider/GTV regarding everyday use and owner enjoyment/recommendations. Cheers
I've had a GTV since early in the year it's a great drive every day its the 2.0 litre also ain't so bad with fuel round town it's also the best rare color noveu blue pearl....buy one..... you'll enjoy..
I'd want a perfect one for that much! The passenger side looked horrendous, could have atleast got some PDR done to make it look a bit better before paint
Way…..too much money, but not a bad car by any stretch. The values of these and the 916 GTV are waiting. To skyrocket. But I think a couple more years before they do. If I sell my Alfasud next year, I may look for one, but it needs to be very good! It still astonishes me though, how the galvanised cars are completely betraying the rust myth 😂
@@ItaliaAutos truly! That, to me, is a £1500 car at max. They don’t fetch big money unless V6. I’ve had maybe 4 Spiders now, I cannot recall paying more than £700 for either of them. Paintwork alone to get it sorted would be the best part of £1500 alone. Absolute avoid, total and utter waste of money. Better with a V6 for a little more.
£5,000! £500 is more realistic for the amount of work it needs. It's a moneypit in the making. Could find another that doesn't need that much work for less.
Car seems "Alfa" ok,?, but price also seems a litle high to me...what do I know...2-3 years ago I had the chance to buy a 2.0 turbo GTV here in Spain for 2000euro, and I didn't (disappointed on the test drive performance), oh how I wish I had now!!
Needs quite a bit of work I personally wouldnt pay that money for it I can see a lot of money having to be spent in the future besides sorting the bodywork
Everything is over inflated at the moment and if the guy really want it ask the seller will they fix all the issues or price the car accordingly, then make a cheeky offer!
£5500! Your getting near V6 territory for that personally would save my money and hold out for one of them I’ve seen twin spark stunners for 3k ! That one is way overpriced !
Maybe a bit steep. I paid 4000 euro (3500 pound) for a very decent 1997 2.0 TS with new clutch, no rust, perfect paint, and a dodgy roof. If the roof on this one would’ve been in good nick, I think 4000 would be a good price, considering that the paint/body needs quite a bit of work and that it has some mechanical issues.
This car is now up for £3993, but advertised at no more reductions in price. I was due to see it on Monday, but after watching this, I'm not sure to be honest!!
@@ItaliaAutos Will definitely keep looking I think. my budget is about £400, so at the low end. Thank you for the very detailed video, definetly saved me some trouble.
Ignoring the asking price Neil, to get as I'd want it you'd be having a good Christmas out of me let's put it that way. I'd rather have a Fiat 124 instead.
That's way too much money for a neglected toy. Refurbishing the original rear suspension alone will cost thousands and it will still be a 2 liter. For ten grand you could have a nice V6 instead.
It seems a solid car without any major issues, needing just some light recommissioning and cosmetic work. If the asking price reflects that (I'm not from the UK, so I don't know how much these cars are worth there), it could be a good purchase. Lovely "phase 2" model, which is my favorite. Late Arese-built car too!
I'd be wary of all that black stuff, couldn't see the shape of the sill seams. Who knows what lies beneath?! The bloke who put the black stuff on of course.
Interesting view Neil. Fundamental stuff I get - paint fade etc, but small parking dents would be expected on a 25 year old car? It does seem priced optimistically for overall condition. Not sure how it compares to others on the market when you do the same level of appraisal?
£5500! come on would,t even bother checking it out one look and you can see it's a £1000 alfa, new clutch/some paint maybe £1500/£1800 car. Would you buy it for £2k as it is? let alone 5500
It is a bit overpriced in my opinion, but it is in rather good order and definitely worth saving. Those rusts are no big deal to be sorted out and all the fluid changes are pretty normal. Even clutch is a thing that anyway needs to be done in sometime. Paintwork and that stuff is perhaps the biggest thing to be sorted out, to get the car look good and balanced red. Now it looks like every panel is diffrent colour. If i could find a 916 with that small rust damages, i would buy it.
Sooooo....around 20 k eventually....if he keeps it garaged in a dehumidified environment and uses it Sundays only....it's a money back or more in five years or so....it's a good deal, accepting if he has a wife he will have to take into consideration the constant updating of the kitchen and bathroom...pointless 😂😂😂
There’s a sticker on the expansion tank that says “Do not add water Evans waterless coolant”. Could that explain the funny colour? As for £5.5k. Not of my money. Typical patched up 90s fare. Saveable but with a lot of time and effort.
£5.5k is too much. I paid £1600 for my 99 Spider 2.0TS in January. Done the cambelt, thermostat, radiator and down pipe and a bit of cosmtic work. Eveything works, no missing trim bits, even the ash tray works!
At £5.5k this spider seems to be missing it's Busso...
Busso cars are now near 10k from what I've seen these days
@@Thanos.m few at £10-£12k but they don,t sell £7k/£8k will sit you in a really nice v6.
At £5k, Do a Dionne Warwick and ‘walk on by’.
My is the 2.0 JTS. I think is unterrated, very stable, you can enjoy the good weather,
If it's never been welded and doesn't require any welding then it's a good base upon which to build a really nice spider from. Right now, with all the work needing doing it's a sub £1000 car though.
Wasn't aware t.s spiders were at that level of value yet, maybe 2 -2500 might be ok but 5500 seems alot when it needs work aswell, hold out for another.
They are not, despite the noise around them being appreciating classics. Parts availabity s becoming big problem and some part prices are getting silly. Faded red ones are particularly challenging becuase they look awful but require 1000s to sort. In the real world this is a 1.5K car. A pristine TS is £6k in the real world..
Definitely a Spider worth saving but overpriced by at least £2500 given the amount of paint needed.
The best thing about that car is the gearknob
and what looks like a working factory stereo
Yep and that's about it.
£5,500 is a lot for that car, I was thinking mine with 55K on the clock, and in way better condition that that, might be worth that sort of money at a push if I put it up for sale in the Spring. That one's a £2K/£2.5K car at best.
At least Dick Turpin wore a mask!
beautiful, I have the same exact one in Bologna in Italy, made in the year 2000, with a 2.0 T.S. 110kw Euro 3
Price is too high
I have a 2000 TS with 41k and it’s near perfect
I would expect to get £5k max for mine
I bought my Spider in July for less and it had the suspension & belts all sorted, a recent respray (& a good one). Recommissioned from SORN. Has needed a radiator and power steering hose. When I looked around a few similar to mine so £3.5k-£4k gets you a nicer example, get one of them instead.
That's a £500 car. To bring that back will be at least £2500 and a minter can be had for £3k with a bit of patience. Bonkers.
Purchased my 02 plate spider in 2015 for £2700 sold it in 2020 for £2375.
It's a £3000 car maximum. My black spider had similar fading paint. Then the engine fan packed up and it was time to sell. Great looking car, not particularly quick.
Those rear spring pans are renowned for rotting out from the top side, they get covered in dirt and rot out. If they fail the back end hits the road supposedly.
There’s a sticker on the expansion tank that says “Do not add water Evans waterless coolant”. Could that explain the funny colour?
As for £5.5k. Not of my money. Typical patched up 90s fare. Saveable but with a lot of time and effort.
Answer is NO, add another 2k-3k and buy a Spider v6..
I see were the prices are going in EU and it aint normal.
These are still used cars, at the end you wil end at around 10k if you want to make it Look and run perfect.
Nice car but I would want the hood looked at especially the rear window 🤔 and better to get radiator changed !
Neil, you forgot to check the area in the front wheeelhouse around the strut bearing. EVERY 916 rusts there ;-)
Bit minty at that price but given how solid the car is hopefully it'll be a good long term investment on a personal note I was looking to buy a gtv around 5yrs ago but got an alfa gt cloverleaf for around the same price as a gtv which was a lot older and I absolutely love my gt it's amazing puts a big smile ☺ on my face everytime i drive it
While in my view it isn't a £500 car it also isn't a 5K car (in the UK) at least. I've recently finished doing a full nut and bolt resto on a 1996 Ph 1 Spider and so have a inkling (as I'm sure Neil does) how much this car will cost to get it into a half decent state even doing it all yourself. You'll be into the thick end of £9K if you pay £5K for this, probably more if the sills are rusty under those covers.
About 3.5k overpriced, sold mine (there’s a vid on this channel) for £3400 earlier this year and it was a hell of a lot better than this one.
I don't know much about the Spider market, but it "feels" overpriced especially in today's market, however, very much worth sorting out. Neil could turn it into a very nice car.
As of now most prices have risen a LOT actually, like the worst you can find 147 is selling for 1,5k
At that price, it reminds me of the Harry Enfield sketch; "I saw you coming". At 5.5k, I would be expecting much more. Price seems based on the fact it has new tyres and a stainless exhaust! Would have liked to see Neil prod a screwdriver into that heavy and new underseal on the front of the inner sills.
Good call!
Personally, I've never been convinced by the styling of the Spider (the GTV is more appealing to me) but I've never driven either. I'd love to hear thoughts on the Spider/GTV regarding everyday use and owner enjoyment/recommendations. Cheers
I've had a GTV since early in the year it's a great drive every day its the 2.0 litre also ain't so bad with fuel round town it's also the best rare color noveu blue pearl....buy one..... you'll enjoy..
Same allways liked GTV more strange how a soft top can change a car's appearance so much.
I'd want a perfect one for that much! The passenger side looked horrendous, could have atleast got some PDR done to make it look a bit better before paint
Way…..too much money, but not a bad car by any stretch. The values of these and the 916 GTV are waiting. To skyrocket. But I think a couple more years before they do. If I sell my Alfasud next year, I may look for one, but it needs to be very good! It still astonishes me though, how the galvanised cars are completely betraying the rust myth 😂
£5500?! No chance. I sold one of my mint Zoe yellows last year for £2800, damn sight better than this!
yep laughable price for the condition.
@@ItaliaAutos truly! That, to me, is a £1500 car at max. They don’t fetch big money unless V6. I’ve had maybe 4 Spiders now, I cannot recall paying more than £700 for either of them. Paintwork alone to get it sorted would be the best part of £1500 alone. Absolute avoid, total and utter waste of money. Better with a V6 for a little more.
It’s a £2,800 car. By the time it’s had paint, treatment, clutch etc it’s £5000, but no way before.
Brilliant video neil 👍let's hope he does it needs to be saved
not for that price. :-)
£5,000! £500 is more realistic for the amount of work it needs. It's a moneypit in the making. Could find another that doesn't need that much work for less.
I dont know much about this particular Alfa model, but the price does seem a bit steep, bearing in mind the work that needs doing to it.
Seller is expecting a bit too much there. Perhaps they don’t realise the amount of work to be done and buyer can do a deal..??
Car seems "Alfa" ok,?, but price also seems a litle high to me...what do I know...2-3 years ago I had the chance to buy a 2.0 turbo GTV here in Spain for 2000euro, and I didn't (disappointed on the test drive performance), oh how I wish I had now!!
Needs quite a bit of work I personally wouldnt pay that money for it I can see a lot of money having to be spent in the future besides sorting the bodywork
Everything is over inflated at the moment and if the guy really want it ask the seller will they fix all the issues or price the car accordingly, then make a cheeky offer!
5.5k is a bit too much for the conditions and the work needed to have it back safely on the road.
£5500! Your getting near V6 territory for that personally would save my money and hold out for one of them I’ve seen twin spark stunners for 3k ! That one is way overpriced !
Maybe a bit steep. I paid 4000 euro (3500 pound) for a very decent 1997 2.0 TS with new clutch, no rust, perfect paint, and a dodgy roof. If the roof on this one would’ve been in good nick, I think 4000 would be a good price, considering that the paint/body needs quite a bit of work and that it has some mechanical issues.
Is this car is original UK than is really well kept due the weather conditions.. Rust etc.. Need some attention.. Now.. But i think ia worth 5000
Expensive... Bought my phase 1 for £1400 which is in much better overall shape than this example but mines has done 104k.
Is that £5500 to fix all the faults?
No just the clutch and some paint
This car is now up for £3993, but advertised at no more reductions in price. I was due to see it on Monday, but after watching this, I'm not sure to be honest!!
Better ones out there.
@@ItaliaAutos Will definitely keep looking I think. my budget is about £400, so at the low end. Thank you for the very detailed video, definetly saved me some trouble.
Not a £5500 car, I’d be surprised if it makes £3k in that paint condition.
Way too expensive, much better ones out there for that sort of money. Does the automatic roof work...?
Ignoring the asking price Neil, to get as I'd want it you'd be having a good Christmas out of me let's put it that way. I'd rather have a Fiat 124 instead.
Overpriced. about 4k is reasonable
fair price
That's way too much money for a neglected toy. Refurbishing the original rear suspension alone will cost thousands and it will still be a 2 liter. For ten grand you could have a nice V6 instead.
It seems a solid car without any major issues, needing just some light recommissioning and cosmetic work. If the asking price reflects that (I'm not from the UK, so I don't know how much these cars are worth there), it could be a good purchase. Lovely "phase 2" model, which is my favorite. Late Arese-built car too!
Too much over here, though I wish they were getting that sort of price!
given the condition of it £3000 even if issues are sorted, it's only a ts engine
Only a ts engine‽ wash your mouth out; they’re great. It’s just not a busso but is that the best spider option? Busso in a GTV.
If it has a busso init its worth more simple, and I never said ts engines were rubbish so check yourself
Absolutely NO. £5.5K is way overpriced. It's worth £1 - £1.5K. MAX. Like R Walden said - it's missing a Busso if the seller wants 5.5
Seems a bit pricey🤔
How much lol nooooooo
I'd be wary of all that black stuff, couldn't see the shape of the sill seams. Who knows what lies beneath?! The bloke who put the black stuff on of course.
Too much money I think. There are better examples out there.
Interesting view Neil.
Fundamental stuff I get - paint fade etc, but small parking dents would be expected on a 25 year old car?
It does seem priced optimistically for overall condition. Not sure how it compares to others on the market when you do the same level of appraisal?
£5500! come on would,t even bother checking it out one look and you can see it's a £1000 alfa, new clutch/some paint maybe £1500/£1800 car. Would you buy it for £2k as it is? let alone 5500
Its not too bad , but £5k!?, I would pay £2k, £3k if desperate.
£2k max. The seller is having a laugh.
No way about 2500 to much .
Thats way overpriced! with all the work on top, others out there way cheaper!
It is a bit overpriced in my opinion, but it is in rather good order and definitely worth saving. Those rusts are no big deal to be sorted out and all the fluid changes are pretty normal. Even clutch is a thing that anyway needs to be done in sometime. Paintwork and that stuff is perhaps the biggest thing to be sorted out, to get the car look good and balanced red. Now it looks like every panel is diffrent colour. If i could find a 916 with that small rust damages, i would buy it.
Overpriced by 2k ...
Bit boring really. I wouldn't buy one.
Too much at £5500 with the amount of cosmetic work that needs done, I'd say in current condition this is £3500 worth
Probably the most unflattering thumbnail shot I've seen for a youtube video, all I can see is nostrils .
What you doing staring at a thumbnail? Watch the video lol
Sooooo....around 20 k eventually....if he keeps it garaged in a dehumidified environment and uses it Sundays only....it's a money back or more in five years or so....it's a good deal, accepting if he has a wife he will have to take into consideration the constant updating of the kitchen and bathroom...pointless 😂😂😂
£5500 is what you would get for a mint 2.0ts? It’s kind of a ‘project’ car in my eyes. £1500 as it is if it’s got a years mot on it🤷♂️.
There’s a sticker on the expansion tank that says “Do not add water Evans waterless coolant”. Could that explain the funny colour?
As for £5.5k. Not of my money. Typical patched up 90s fare. Saveable but with a lot of time and effort.