So do you all really think taking a billion dollars out of US tax payer dollars to give countless gender studies college students free college tuitions, is a good idea Are you all that stupid
It doesn't catch all of them, but arguable the lion's share of mentally-teenagers are also physically-teenagers. So it might be good enough an approximation.
The real question is why is medical school so expensive? Why are doctors so expensive? Why can't I find out what an MRI costs at the hospital before getting one?
United States politicians like money, and pharmaceutical company demons also like money, so they kind of circle jerk each others wallets at the expense of citizens.
They're for-profit institutions. Medical care is such a necessary expense that people will pay for it at any price. There's no incentive to keep costs down.
You're playing catchup on medical science from inception to cutting edge in a world where a minor issue has devastating consequences, where knowing one obscure symptom is the difference between life and death. You are a Caterpillar diesel engine mechanic and the difference between putting in valve dowels at 50cm 47/1000 vs 50cm 50/1000 is a smooth running engine or a catastrophic failure. Except you don't have manufacturer specifications to go by.
She's had a relationship with the school for many years and the money is just money from her husband that died that was very rich. She looks like she's about 3 years away from passing anyway so probably just wanted to put it to good use before she croaks. @@leighz1962
Pretty sure the announcement was that the tuition free would continue in perpuity, as the money made through investing would cover more than double the number of students
Yup, there's not a single well-intentioned college out there anymore besides maybe a trade school or community college. They all only care about money.
He's young, I can remember being young... In his mind, it's like "They gonna be doctors soon anyways, they can repay their tuition loans easily with their doctor salary, you're better off using 1 billion for like, starving people or whatever". It's a point, not the best one, not the worst one. A young persons point.
And what is your point? You failed to make one. I'm almost 40, and this was a waste of a billion dollars. Its rich people getting richer while sending their rich kids go to school for free to get a job that will make them richer.
Are doctors the ones in need compared to starving people? Seems like the most use it could have would be to elevate the worst off, not the best off. Even if the point was to help doctors specifically, this will only help 5k to 10k people at one college.
I hate this take so much. By this logic - we just never improve things because it isn't "fair" to the previous generation who had it worse? Are we not going to pursue affordable healthcare b/c it won't be fair to people who had to pay for outrageous medical expenses?
3 years later: "I regret to inform the students that this is no longer the case as the staff-only, multi-storey waterpark we built in the property has taken up much more money than we expected."
As an endowment if they don't meet the terms they have to give the money back to they endowment holder. The college does not have the billion dollars they get given a portion of its investments every year to pay for their operations. If they charge any tuition ever they lose the money.
Even if more people can study to be doctors, they are still limited on how many people can become doctors because of residency limitations imposed by the government.
@@ACSMEXLet me be very clear here I am not a doctor but have heard about this and have family who did in fact become doctors. I’m not sure if it’s a legal reason or something. But in the US there is a hard cap on how many people in the US can become Legal, licensed and able to practice medicine. So you can go the full course the decades of work to get the education and practice to be any form of medical practicer but you would still have to wait till your given the go ahead to actually start treating the sick. It’s one of the many reasons Medical care in the US is fucking expensive since only a handful of people are even allowed to begin doing their jobs. It’s terrible my cousin spent like 12 years to become a doctor and only in the last 2 was he finally able to do his job.
It's sorta true though at least for that sort of degree. Medicine degrees are probably one of the highest probability degrees to actually pay off the loan without it getting out of hand.
yeah that threw me off the first time I heard it too lmfao a school dedicated to physics or general science with his name? makes sense a medical school though? named after one of the most renowned physicists in human history? a tad odd
He did have some connection to medical care, if funding research on how to deal with the aftermath of radiation sickness counts. Other than that? Just a prestigious name to claim for any institution.
I kinda agree with him tho, so many people go into medicine to make bank and end up making the medical industry worse. Someone I used to be friends with just constantly says he wants to do med school not to help the needy but to become a physician assistant so he can make the most money doing the least work. I feel like this is a sentiment shared by a lot in the medical industry. He also got into one of my states best medical schools for free because his mom works at the hospital they own. This sort of stuff isn't bringing in the people who should be doctors, its bringing in the people who will take shortcuts to make more money.
Agree yet Veterans are homeless and starving but pay spoiled brats tuition that THEY CHOOSE to have. We need real doctors who care not prescribe pills. How bout we stop paying Pro athletes 30 mill a year, actors way to much, youtubers.....pay them 10% of what they make and use the revenue for good and to help people. Nobody needs that much money, period!! And pay real doctors really well and give free health care? Oh shit can't do that greed is the best! Lets not mention that 80 something bill our rep sent over some where, imagine what that could have done.
The brutal truth though is money makes the world go round. On one hand medical costs in the US are out of control but in the other the US is the leader in medical development and knowledge. It's almost a pick your poison so to speak. If you are rich in the US you get the best medical treatment in the world full stop.
Instead of just making this school free, they should have established a sustainable scholarship program for people who can’t afford medical school but want to become doctors.
@@fatguy9 No one wants to accept that the rich elites hate you, they dont care about your skin color, they care about your bank balance. They'll let _anyone_ into their group as long as you are likeminded enough and make bank somehow. They hate the poor/those unwilling to strive for a dollar. Sorry wealthy idiots, I dont want to burn my short life out faster just to line your pockets for you, I'd rather spend my entire life living like a hermit and programming for fun.
@@fatguy9Only the best ones, most rich kids already have an advantage. (better education, better self esteem, less stress, more free time, although it can be the opposite for the last two, it usually isn't)
@@Tilith well it should be the best ones with the greatest chance to succeed through the program, id argue theres many smart people that dont even have a chance at thinking about med school since theyre expected to get a job after graduation to help their family financially
Med school is expensive as hell. This country needs more doctors. I'm glad those med students got a break and I hope they go on to help a ton of people.
this is hardly the solution, making the tuition free will only make people dont compete as hard for their spots in that field, guess what, medicine is a very competitive field because you need competitive people when you dealing with human lives, do you really want to have surgery by Dr Fingers (see cyberpunk)
In my country where education is like 99% subsidized, doctors barely earn twice the average. (which is great, don't get me wrong, let's people who WANT to be doctors actually be doctors) But elsewhere // in the US, cost of education can more or less be seen as any other investment.. which if now free for some, would make it a quite op path to take. I'm sure lots of doctors are going to be salty over this as they already paid, as more doctors means more competition and thus lower salaries.
You don't think that the medical industry is over saturated at the moment? So many doctors keeping people dependent on pharmaceuticals to keep the endless flow of money going and leaving some people with crippling medical debt.
@@rickycool6083 most of the money is pocketed by a middle man, doctors and nurses have a standard salary, which does not increase according to the costs of the patients, or the healthcare industry profits, in short it is the fault of the mega monopolies for all the problems related to the costs of the healthcare
But I get what the kid is saying. Those who are accepted into the medical school are likely getting all the loans and grants they need to attend. And once they leave, they'll get jobs that are more than able to pay off those loans.
and at this school you have to show youll be able to pay for it, part of being admitted is having parents that make 360k+. one commenter claims that's gonna change with this donation, but every student in that auditorium cheering like their lives have been changed is already very rich.
@@facE055 lmao I'm a literal immigrant and know lots of other 1st generation immigrants who send their kids to med school in america who then go on to become doctors. There are rich people in that room, but you don't need to be rich to go to med school.
@@Zed-ch9fg exceptions don't disprove the rule. A quick Google finds 48% of medical students come from the top quintile in income and only 6% come from the bottom quintile.
Well And thats why they are making it for everyone Now. Kid is complaining that only rich kids attends med school, which is something this donation is supposed to solve. Also thinking that being rich is the only requirment to pass med school is stupid. Its the hardest school one can attend, and only the very best manage to get there.
It's not a bad opinion, considering it's a private school/university that requires the parents income to be over 300 grand per year for the kids to attend. It's rich people cheering about becoming richer. If anything, one billion dollars could be better spent building more schools/libraries/community centres/etc, rather than injecting one uni thats already full of wealthy people.
I'm in 250k debt with 8% interest from med school alone and I'm not even done. It's bullshit and we're being used for our passion to become physicians. Even once we get our degree, we go into 3-7 years of more training where we get paid 50-70k usually and our interest on debt is accumulating during this period
Fantastic news when it's a private grant. Taking money out of the pockets of people who had to forego education because of the cost and giving it to the more fortunate is a little fucked though. i.e don't do it with taxes.
@@ulisesmartinez6432 I'm glad it's free as well, but student loans aren't high way robbery. You take a loan for school, you go to school, you graduate, and then you get a high paying job that allows for paying back the loan. I was able to get loans to go to school and it's the only way i could have went. My grandmother told me she wanted to be a nurse, but in her day they ddin't have student loans so she never became a nurse. Student loans are good.
Its what theyre doing, actually, Asian men are the most restricted ones. You need to score much, much better as an Asian, then white. Hispanics and Blacks have massively lower standards. This is literally what Elon was talking about during his Don Lemon interview where Don couldnt comprehend words. All the info is available online if you want to look it up. If youre a minority, they lowered the standards because of the color of your skin to hire more people of your color. They consider you too stupid to acheive it yourself. @@blackzero786
In theory this is a great move, but this isn't what you all think it is. To get into the Albert Einstein College of Medicine you have to go through a very length interview process in which one part requires you to verify that you or your guardians bring in at least $364,000 per year which is more than 6x higher than the average wage of a dual-income household in the US. This is just free tuition for the already rich.
I will just say this: everyone can look up how many women there are in medical unis, and also statistics on how many women doctors drop their medical career in 2 years. And then in 5 years as well. Yeah, that's a huge part of why medical education is so expensive.
@@yurichtube1162 According to him, I suppose it's a waste of space to have people who aren't dedicated study in the field. I don't know if it's true, but I agree. Not limited to women of course, but in general. I'd rather see that people who keep at it are the ones who study. However, it's also hard to say who will and who won't keep working within the field before they quit.
Women in _every_ field drop out well before their male counterparts/peers do. Letting them have free reign and special treatment was a mistake, not saying to take their rights away but we really need to end this special treatment, they aren't more capable, in most cases in the large average quantity, women are less capable than men in the workplace. Almost all women ultimately end up desiring to be homemakers, even if they do not want children, the lies that set women up to compete against men are the big problems in our society.
@@yurichtube1162 Forget graduation rates, even after graduating, women drop careers at way higher rates in their 20-30s because their priorities change and they want to become full-time mothers. So yah, imagine training workers for 4 years who'll leave after 1 year. You're basically wasting those training spots and losing potential workers who ARE willing to stay on in the profession for the rest of their lives. It's not sexism when it's reality slapping you in the face for putting political beliefs before public health.
I mean... the guy has a point. Doctors earn a lot of money in part because they have expensive education costs. By subsidizing this 1 university to such a degree those students essentially just won the lottery and every other student didn't. Super nice gesture by the donator though.
they already won the lottery, to get into that school your parents have to make 360k or more. one commenter claims that's gonna change going forward, idk if that's true or not but every student in that auditorium cheering is already very rich.
I agree, I don't think it was a silly take. Those students will end up making hundreds of thousands a year. Free tuition for social workers, mental health professionals, teachers. Now with the national law enforcement shortage, for criminal justice majors. But nah, lets give it to what will be the highest percentage earners.
@@gladiater56 ya they still have to earn it if they wanna become a doctor or something, but they have every advantage already. giving money to people like that is a waste when compared to vast amounts of other causes.
@@facE055 What are you talking about? I took out student loans to get into medical school. I was a grown adult when I got into medical school and so were all of my classmates. Most of them were actually middle class but we had students from all economic backgrounds. How do the income of my parents even factor into this?
Average tuition is 60k give or take, over 4 years rounds somewhere out to 250k after expenses, 1250 students full time, back paid a year, only gives at most 12 years of free tuition to a 3% acceptance rate school. A billion dollars pays for about 14k Bachelor degrees. That's bonkers, and that's considering people don't drop out, or go for more expensive degrees that just bare minimum
Ben Gross is COMPLETELY right though, and this is coming from someone struggling in a phd program. You can't just refute him by saying "i remember being young and stupid". The book "How to spend $75 Billion to Make the World a Better Place" outlines the best way to spend money on philanthropy based on economics (obvious there is no objective right answer, but they tried to measure "impact" per dollar), none of which are subsidize the soon to be wealthy. (For those curious the number one solution in the book was to fund micronutrient supplements for children in developing countries, which would have been a far better use of this money).
I mean if you used it for an anti-lobbying to regulate expenses for higher education it would have higher positive outcomes, he's right for the wrong reason.
Probably not. The best you're getting from that is a fight in government where nothing changes for three more decades and then maybe if it becomes politically viable, eventually a bipartisan bill will pass congress... And then get slapped down in the senate by the filibuster rule. Or they could... You know. Do actual tangible good now.
But from a charity view, every student in that auditorium just saw their futures brighten by an insurmountable magnitude. Any charity is good charity, and the donor(s) and university deserve praise. They may not have saved every college student in America from crippling debt, but they saved their students, at least for a few years.
@@JingleJangle256 This is what baffles me. Someone donates 1 billion of their own dollars to make thousands of peoples lives better and people are going "Yeah but you could have given that money to X group instead so you're still a terrible person."
@@JingleJangle256 no they didn't, the basic point that the student made is still valid, not only are these kids already rich based on the comment somebody else has posted showing the parents of kids at this school must make 360k, they're going to continue to be rich after graduating as doctors. this is just giving money to the rich, but since it has to do with school all the people that would usually scream about giving money to the rich are supporting it.
@@facE055 Yeah, but now the school doesnt have a reason to ask for that income check. With the donation, students from all background are able to attend.
The only good part about this story is that the 1 billion isn't strictly designated for BIPOC's although I won't be surprised if that's actually what ends up happening.
Look up the new DEI policies, you need a much higher GPA if your Asian, slightly lower if youre caucasian, while black and hispanic need a much lower one. Its on the DEI website.
@@richarddaigle8777 We just need to start boycotting the benefactors of DEI and the agencies that hire them. Let them all know that we won't accept nothing but merit based outcomes when it comes to our health and well being. Just like the airplane industry.
Its silently only gonna be for black and hispanic. Everyone else is still going to be paying. Fact how theres already a system set in place where you can be dumb as rocks as this race. But need a gpa of 4.0+ if yur asian. Is fucking stupid. I dont want the dumb bag of rocks taking care of me. I want the 4.0 3.0 2.5 gpa person who got in for showing that they were smart and knew wtf they were doing. Not cuz of their race.
Maybe work at getting some 'privilege' yourself and stop bitching about it in a racist way on youtube? Or do you prefer to blame your lack of ability on others too?
As long as they are truely qualified to do the job right. I just dont want to see them handing out licenses like candy just because its free, we dont need more incompetence in the medical indusrty.
People are actually accepting Asmongold's take on this? HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHA "Hey guys, < insert number > year old said thing on internet. It's wrong because of his age, you see? AmIrite, fellow gaymers?" Jesus Christ, how pathetic - at least EXPLAIN why it's a bad take, without shitting on a kid for having an opinion on the internet!
They legitimately don't want that. Post WW2 the grand goal of the leftwing in the west has been to dismantle it and that includes making life as miserable as possible as their messaging fails to work in high trust societies where the population feels a sense of connection to the past/a desire to build for the future. Its why the Boomers are as selfish as they are, their college teachers tried it with them but only succeeded in a minor sense.
In theory this is a great move, but this isn't what you all think it is. To get into the Albert Einstein College of Medicine you have to go through a very length interview process in which one part requires you to verify that you or your guardians bring in at least $364,000 per year which is more than 6x higher than the average wage of a dual-income household in the US. This is just free tuition for the already rich.
If he provided some data, like how (making this up, don't go crazy) 80% of the students that enroll at that school come from very wealthy families, people might've agreed. Alas, no such thing happened.
its a requirement that your parents make 360k to get into the school, another commenter pointed out it says that directly on their website. someone else said after the donation they're removing that requirement, im not sure if that's true or not, but everybody in that auditorium cheering for this is already rich.
I’m in my thirties and I’d rather hear that kids opinion on this subject than Asmongold’s. Anyone can donate their money to anything they want, I’m not mad at it or anything like that. I prefer it that way, we should all have the freedom to do that. But paying off doctors personal loans and ensuring guaranteed profits for a corrupt overpriced institution isn’t exactly what I would call philanthropy. That is a total waste of a donation if your trying To do good in the world. Now if your trying to buy influence over the next generation of doctors, that was a great move. So I’m not exactly happy about this.
ya, it's ironic that people are talking about how dumb "kids" are when the whole "free college = good" is only supported by children who take it at face value without any thought. those of us in our thirties have been seeing this nonsense for over a decade.
@@Kspice9000 the American medical association has said there is a crippling shortage of doctors but sure lets fund more plumbers, i'm sure they can help you when you're sick
You know what I was doing at the age of 14? .....idk. can't remember but it wasn't being on Twitter. It was a routine of going to school, coming back home, doing chores and playing videogames. Not a single political thought was going through my head.
That is all great and all but will these monies go to QUALIFIED med students or the DEI ones who are considered deprived of their “dreams?” Also, hopefully the donation is given to ALL those who are QUALIFIED!!!
The DEI policies make it a lot harder for Asians to become doctors, followed by Caucasians. Hispanic and Black students need a much lower GPA to be accepted already. So you're going to pay for lesser quality doctors right off the bat.
Asmon takes another L. The kid does have a point. Doctors aren't exactly the field that would benefit most from free tuition, as they're well paid and get tons of free stuff from the pharmaceutical companies. All the scientists doing research, would be the first place I'd think to give the money to. All those chemistry, bio-chem, and biology degrees, heck throw physics, astrophysics, astronomy, and mathematics in there too. Those hard sciences and mathematics would help the most, as they take the debt, do the work we need, but are paid pennies. Edit: added astronomy.
@@superior_nobody07 And? You realize that they're paid better than most jobs AND get legal bribes from pharmaceutical companies? They're one of the jobs that cam easily handle that debt level, because they have to royally screw up, to not be able to pay it off. A scientist? They're taking out a loan for a comparable amount, and then get paid peanuts. You're as delusional as Asmon, if you seriously think that doctors need more free stuff.
@@christianalanwilson434 The things is, I never said sociology, thanks for strawmanning me, as I literally and specifically listed exactly which sciences should get free tuition. I specifically listed hard sciences, and sociology is a soft science. I might have made a mistake of not including geology on the list of hard sciences though, so it's technically an incomplete list. Certainly not things like sociology/psychology/political science/economics.
@@corystarkiller You're welcome. I admit I didn't really bother reading your comment because it does not matter in the slightest how you think someone else should best spend their money. Until you come up with a billion dollars of your own and actually donate it, you're just huffing your own farts.
I'm slightly confused, why is a medical school named after Einstein? Wasn't he a physicist? Is there an Alexander Fleming College for Applied Astrophysics out there somewhere?
this just in: bronx medical school board of directors raises tuition to 100,000,000 per year starting next term and oddly enough also ending next term and also votes on some faculty pay bonuses next term as well.
lmao, your starting pay as a doctor is like 50-60k as a resident. you have to put another 200k+ for a specialty tuition on top of 300k for base med school to start cracking into higher pay.
After being in college 2 years now I think it's a terrible idea to pay the tuition for students. I agree with the kids take, but not the way he said it. I see so many students in my class that could not care less about being there. Quite often I see them scrolling on their phone for the entire class, or they skip class entirely. I've even seen some playing video games, or watching movies during class with their headphones on. Why even did they even go to class? lol The dropout rate for many colleges is far too high and many people don't even use their degree after college. It makes no sense for us to be handing students a free education. For those reason I think it it a waste. It'll be interesting to see the tuition rates for that college in the next 5 years too.
Well, yeah. They are most likely soon to be wealthy. I mean the act of getting into college like that is a huge indicator of success. I don't think a donation is a ever a bad thing, but a greater difference could probably be achieved in a bunch of places. A bit of a L take to crap on the guy, to be honest.
@@CytherMeh every first world country has national heath care. The US doesn't because it's a capitalist hellscape, what this billionaire did was a step in the right direction.
Not all people who graduate med school end up becoming doctors and even the ones that do don't necessarily start making a lot of money the second they graduate. My mother got her master's degree as a nurse and didn't start making a decent amount of money until she was in her 40s and even now she still obviously makes less than a doctor. Its not like theyre all gonna be neurosurgeons the second they graduate
I mean, he has a point. They could have paid off the debt of those who are already in their first years of practice, it could have ended homelessness and poverty in any major city, it could have spayed and neutered every animal currently in shelters so they could be released and not euthanized....but no, lets signal our virtues to a community where only 10% will ever even finish their first year of rotation instead.
bla bla bla virtue signaling bla bla bla. Don't be an a*shole, the amount of whataboutism is ridiculous, “Oh, tHiS PeRsoN DonATiNg to ScHoOl, WHat aBoUt HoMelEssnes”
It would have been better for the donation to only go to students who would have no way to afford going to the school but its their money to donate how they want. The only requirement that they had for it was to keep the name Einstein for their school.
@@digiquo8143 as of now every kid in that school has parents that make 360k+, they dont need it. one commenter claims theyll be removing that requirement due to the donation and im not sure if thats true or not, but every current student that will benefit from this is already very rich.
Yo he's right tho. Average starting wage for a doctor is between 165k to 208k in 2024 on their first year. You can pay it all off on your first year of work. My ex got approved for 750k in student loans when she asked for 125k. Doctors dont need this help. You know when they say "Tax breaks for the rich", this is what they mean. You're giving free money to the rich when youre doing this. You could do this for people that arent going to be worth a million dollars in a decade.
You're not factoring the 3-5 year residency into account which you still need to apply for, get accepted for, and get paid 50-60k a year for. You don't walk out of med school making 6 figures. You're sitting on massive student debt for years before you can even begin to fathom paying that shit off. And that's not even taking into account attempting to start a family. Think before you speak.
Average salary of a doctor is 40-60k for the first 8 years. The Average Student loan debt is 500,000$. They also are expected to be on call, and work 24/7 during the first four years of residency, and then it's another 200K+ to specialize before you actually start making money. Making them earn less then minimum wage when you factor in this 24/7 on call. "Worth a million dollars in a decade" -- They'll still be paying off their student loans a decade from now. Nevermind the crippling anxiety and stress, from dealing with the worst dregs of society day in and out. From crackheads and junkies, to dead babies, to emergency amputations, and so forth. It's also got one of the highest career suicide rates, a large number of which do so while still in school. Tell me you know nothing about actually studying for medicine, with out telling me.
I agree 100% with this kids opinion. Soon to be wealthy and "assuming" they already come from wealthy backgrounds considering the doctors I've met at work came from wealthy families. This is a poor use of one billion.
part of admission at that school is that your parents make at least 360k so they know youll be able to pay it. this is just the rich giving money to the rich.
Unfortunately the easiest way to be rich now is to be born into a rich familly, stories of self made people still exist, but ovviously amongst the hundreds of millions they represent a minority amongst minority @@stevenpoffenberger3344
Ehhh, thats a bit of survivorship bias there. First, yes, Doctor's do end up wealthy, but thats fair given its 8 years of really difficult education they are going through. Not discounting all the nurses and paramedics who are trained there as well. So making tuition free there is less impactful than making it free at a liberal arts college where most graduates will only be wealthy if they get incredibly lucky after graduating. But why are all the students from wealthy backgrounds? It's not bwcause wealthy people are the only ones intrested in becoming Doctor's. In fact, most wealthy people want to go into business or politics, as so to follow in there wealthy parents footsteps as business owners or politicians. No, the Doctor's come from wealthy families because the tuition is so high that you physically cannot afford to go through 8 years of medical school unless you family is at least decently wealthy to begin with. By making tuition free, a larger number of graduates will be from poorer backgrounds, although likely still at least middle class ones due to most definitely needing a tutor in order to score well enough in exams to stand any chance of being accepted at the college, given how they are assured to get a hell of a lot of applicant's now, plus accommodation and whatnot likely being seperate costs that need to covered. Still, it's medical school. Everywhere needs more Doctor's and nurses, and with 8 years of hard education nobody is getting through without being at least decently competent even if they don't have 100s of thousands at risk if they fail the exams, so it's definitely the first place that should be giving free tuition.
I see where the kid is coming from. I'm not gonna call it repulsive. Ppl are free to do what they want with their money. Definitely not the best use of the money imo tho. College tuition costs have exploded because of govt loans and the plethora of ridiculous scholarships being handed out to ppl that don't always deserve them. This is yet another example of treating a symptom instead of a disease.
@@blackzero786 hell no! Especially not if they are extremely old politicians that are openly using their position to do massive quantities of insider trading.
Lol. I am 34, studied 2 major and 2 minor subjects in language and business in a public University in Europe and I don't know why I need to feel the urge to comment to this random idiotic video of a topic that needs public attention whatsoever. But I guess "Asmond" . I think what the kid said is right, just wrongly phrased. You also think I am a stupid shit, Zack? Albert Einstein University is private, and with it the 14 hospitals which belong all to Montefiore health system. People who applied at that University certainly weren't able to afford this by doing part time at nightclubs. Rich kids or kids that were born rich are there. Why didn't the money go to a public University that is actually targeted by people who picked it BECAUSE they knew it was affordable, BECAUSE they knew they didn't have the money for private schools? Or even better: Schools that help people of lesser education due to their social status actually achieve a level of education that our f.u. society is not looking down on? Why? Little research that you could have done with your 34 years: The money came from her husband. Investor of Berkshire Hathaway and friend of Warren Buffett. A lot of their "philanthropist" money went into stem cell and cancer research.... Like Bloombergs, or Gates etc. I can guarantee you, not a single one your poor viewers is going to get a chance of entering that school,no matter how competitive, if he/she is not already in there. Next to money a huge amount of Vitamine R, long letters of recommendation, luck with the AAMC and a huge amount in their prerequiring educational, characteristical, personal and of course cultural background gave the soon to be wealthy their entrance ticket to a University that accepts only about a 100 students each year. Surely we will have a lot more students next year like they said after that donation ? XD Taken from their homepage: "The Committee on Admissions will use the entire application to ensure that the candidate has demonstrated reasonable accomplishment of all of the identified competencies; this includes the AMCAS application, academic record, personal comments, roster of experiences, letters of recommendation, the Einstein secondary application, written and verbal communication with the Admissions Office, and interview (where applicable)." Sounds like the school anyone thinks he/she can enter right?... And that is only a fraction of their requirements. " In our experience, the above Knowledge Competencies are most successfully attained by applicants who have had a minimum of three years of study toward a baccalaureate degree from an accredited college or university in the U.S. or Canada as well as 40 credit hours of science and mathematics, including advanced biology courses... " That surely includes people who grew up in the Bronx.... XD So, don't worry. I thought also had a lot of shit like you in my head when I was 33. And yes, the world would be a better place if, may a quote you," stupid shits" like you weren't on social media reacting to a topic while your viewership, not even reaching a 3rd of your age, is taking your side without any thought or research whatsoever.
Their admissions dept is going to enroll based on the following, in order, the top being the most important, the bottom being the least: 1) Race (POCs) 2) Gender 3) Sexual Orientation 4) Political Beliefs 5) Physical Size 6) Social Media Standing 7) What Kind of Car you Drive 8) Are you a Vegan 9) Do you support Palestine or Israel 10) Do you believe in Marxism 11) High School GPA / Merit
American colleges used to do that and it heavily discriminated upon asians because they would dominate academics, so they made higher requirements for asians and the lowest for black people, but I'm pretty sure Affirmative Action has been outlawed last year, has it not? Edit: apparently they can still legally discriminate based upon gender, so women have it easier to get into STEM and men easier to get into Nursing degrees.
@34125867 I'm glad I graduated when I did. College is such a mess now anyways that if I could do it all over again I'd just go to a trade school or just focus on certifications and experience over an actual degree.
So this school is going to be so competitive forcing other medical schools to lower tuition and in turn other schools in other fields will need to lower tuition to try and convince young adults to swap fields because people will just try to get into the school because its free tuition. It's a good domino effect...hopefully. IM HOPING
hopefully this doesnt effect the already dwindling medical care i have experienced. patients not receiving medications they need on time if not at all, botched surgeries, doctors that dont listen or even know what their doing edit: leaving typos to trigger terminally online weirdos with no friends
I don't know about all doctors, but I do know that psychiatrists get up to $270k where I work. Physician pay starts at $225k in many locations. That's not even looking at the much higher pay in specialty services or surgery...
People who think medical school is an easy route to wealth are insane. The hours put in by most doctors are ridiculous, so much so that it's generally a massive issue when it comes to dating because doctors struggle dating non doctors because the schedules just never match, that'S why you always see doctor couples. And let's be frank, if doctors weren't paid a ton I'd be very worried about the quality of care I'd be receiving.
Nobody said its easy, but as long as you can do it even on moderate level you will be well paid. Dating life is personal business, you think dating as a doctor is hard? Try dating as a construction worker or worse a garbage collector. Americans have this weird attitude if its costs more its better, when most of the world, almost everyone understands that medical care is very basic and needs to be given at a fair manageable price as to help as many people as possible. Helping people remember? not helping the rich alone. Then the same Americans would complain about pharma companies and American medical care being anti consumer.
It's super easy if you compare to modern programming, ppl don't evolve that fast so skills\knowledge u got while educating is always relevant, it's much easier and req much less IQ, you will always have a job, AI isn't replacing you right now and in near future, your money gain is WAY higher while taking much less effort, so it's an easy route, the only barrier is it;s costy but not anymore so no downsides
Well, I put in more time being a truck driver, I live in a truck 2 weeks at a time then I come home for two days to shop for food and pay bills for a place I do not even live in for more than 6 days a month. Then, on my time off I have to restock my supplies, do laundry, and a ton of other things before I go and do it all over again. Forgive me if I do not care about rich doctors not being able to go on a date because they work long hours. At least they have the option to go on a date if they want to, hell they can call in sick and go on date if they were really feeling spicy. I call in sick and I sit in a parkinglot in some random town while crakhead hookers bang on my door all night. Doctors are important, sure, but lets not act like they are destitute and have things so horrible that their lives are hampered in any way. They work long hours, so do other people.
Lol what? If anything the application requirement is gonna be a nightmare since there will be a lot of competition aiming for that free tuition. Assuming you’ve never transfer or enrolled on a UC you’ll won’t know how to difficult it is.
And? Not your money, she could spend it on useless shit or give it all to her grandchildren, yet she chose to do something good. Just because she didn't chose one of 1000000 other ways of spending, doesn't mean anything. No matter what she would decide, there would be assholes that don't like her just because she had money.
Lmfao "Thank the lord streaming worked out"
This is why we love the editor
Anyone else wanna be a streamer?
So do you all really think taking a billion dollars out of US tax payer dollars to give countless gender studies college students free college tuitions, is a good idea
Are you all that stupid
bro really understands asmon and lets him have his fun so long as he does too 😂
the ditor is why I am here
@@WolfsKonig Same, Feel like that can be said about a lot of the content though. Streamers reaping the glory, editors putting in the work.
Welp, Albert Einstein just became the most competitive med school in the country.
Hopefully admission is based on merit...
it won't@@whasian1487
and that school's name? Albert Einstein.
@@whasian1487 yeah ofc this is how it works in america, right?
@@whasian1487 Merit as in those all-inclusive volunteer trips to Africa?
The problem of banning 14 year olds off social media doesn't prevent people who are mentally 14.
😅
@@BLuNTEDR Friendly fire
It doesn't catch all of them, but arguable the lion's share of mentally-teenagers are also physically-teenagers. So it might be good enough an approximation.
meh, 90% of the internet are bots
Utopian fallacy.
Damn, 1 billion dollars? That's enough money to pay for 10 student's tuition.
More like 10k students right?
1B devided by 100k = 10k
F*** the world.
@@sababaratashvili8629 /Woosh
@@sababaratashvili8629 whoosh
@@sababaratashvili8629 you know that med studies take 8 years right ?
so that's like what 1250 people at worst then not 10k
The real question is why is medical school so expensive? Why are doctors so expensive? Why can't I find out what an MRI costs at the hospital before getting one?
you can... you just need to be in a first world country
United States politicians like money, and pharmaceutical company demons also like money, so they kind of circle jerk each others wallets at the expense of citizens.
Wonder what the cost of that same school was in 1970 compared to 2020.
They're for-profit institutions. Medical care is such a necessary expense that people will pay for it at any price. There's no incentive to keep costs down.
You're playing catchup on medical science from inception to cutting edge in a world where a minor issue has devastating consequences, where knowing one obscure symptom is the difference between life and death.
You are a Caterpillar diesel engine mechanic and the difference between putting in valve dowels at 50cm 47/1000 vs 50cm 50/1000 is a smooth running engine or a catastrophic failure. Except you don't have manufacturer specifications to go by.
The editor comment💀
I spit out my drink 😂
Compilation of asmon editor saving his career on bad takes when? 😂
The editor is probably the only reason i watch asmon's clips
That donation is going to disappear while the higher ups will suddenly own multiple houses, and vehicles.
Donates a billion dollars.. yeah.. that is fraud or hiding fraud.
Oh yeah there will definitely be some heavy embezzling, there will be so many doing it that it will be hidden for years.
She's had a relationship with the school for many years and the money is just money from her husband that died that was very rich. She looks like she's about 3 years away from passing anyway so probably just wanted to put it to good use before she croaks. @@leighz1962
Pretty sure the announcement was that the tuition free would continue in perpuity, as the money made through investing would cover more than double the number of students
It's an endowment. You do realize that endowments INCREASE in value, right?
I was concerned that the school would dramatically raise tuition and suck that donation dry as soon as legally possible 😂
Yup, there's not a single well-intentioned college out there anymore besides maybe a trade school or community college. They all only care about money.
2 years.
They will
Ah yes , classic American when LAWS is not to protect peace but to EARN money 😂
@@scyllasmite4819 pretty sure America didn't invent that concept. It's been around a lot longer than America. Lol
He's young, I can remember being young... In his mind, it's like "They gonna be doctors soon anyways, they can repay their tuition loans easily with their doctor salary, you're better off using 1 billion for like, starving people or whatever".
It's a point, not the best one, not the worst one. A young persons point.
Kid probably saw his first starvation in Africa documentary and was hit hard by it. This level of empathy shouldn’t be mocked, it’s admirable.
And what is your point? You failed to make one. I'm almost 40, and this was a waste of a billion dollars. Its rich people getting richer while sending their rich kids go to school for free to get a job that will make them richer.
it's the point of view of someone that grew up in a capitalist hellscape as a wealthy child.
Are doctors the ones in need compared to starving people? Seems like the most use it could have would be to elevate the worst off, not the best off. Even if the point was to help doctors specifically, this will only help 5k to 10k people at one college.
It's good because we need more fucking doctors.
People who graduated one year before 🗿
That money won't last 2 years.
@@blackzero786 if the over/under is 2 years, I’ll take under
@@blackzero786their enrollment is 1232 a year. That means the money will last 11 years at $71,000 a year.
If it is free money.. their tuition is now $100k for college..
I hate this take so much.
By this logic - we just never improve things because it isn't "fair" to the previous generation who had it worse? Are we not going to pursue affordable healthcare b/c it won't be fair to people who had to pay for outrageous medical expenses?
bro I lost my shit when the narrator san said "Thank the lord streaming worked out" . 💀💀💀
It didn't?
Who’s San?
@@Sneak222 it's a honorifics bru.
@@Hikari_Sakurai ohhh i gotcha. Didn't realize at first you were following japanese grammar while writing in english
3 years later: "I regret to inform the students that this is no longer the case as the staff-only, multi-storey waterpark we built in the property has taken up much more money than we expected."
"White male students need not apply."
White or male students need not apply.
We got those shiny laptop batteries though...
As an endowment if they don't meet the terms they have to give the money back to they endowment holder. The college does not have the billion dollars they get given a portion of its investments every year to pay for their operations. If they charge any tuition ever they lose the money.
Even if more people can study to be doctors, they are still limited on how many people can become doctors because of residency limitations imposed by the government.
How many of those "Doctors" quit within 2 years on the job?
B-I-N-G-O, B-I-N-G-O
We also need to establish what kind of doctors they are studying to become and whether or not they have what it takes, mentally and physically.
Not in the USA. What limitations?
@@ACSMEXLet me be very clear here I am not a doctor but have heard about this and have family who did in fact become doctors. I’m not sure if it’s a legal reason or something.
But in the US there is a hard cap on how many people in the US can become Legal, licensed and able to practice medicine. So you can go the full course the decades of work to get the education and practice to be any form of medical practicer but you would still have to wait till your given the go ahead to actually start treating the sick. It’s one of the many reasons Medical care in the US is fucking expensive since only a handful of people are even allowed to begin doing their jobs. It’s terrible my cousin spent like 12 years to become a doctor and only in the last 2 was he finally able to do his job.
It's sorta true though at least for that sort of degree. Medicine degrees are probably one of the highest probability degrees to actually pay off the loan without it getting out of hand.
This just in, Albert Einstein College of Medicine increasing tuition 1000%
Kid has a good point. Subsidizing college with student loans have inflated the price of tuition to an absurd extent.
Albert Einstein "Medical" College? What?
yeah that threw me off the first time I heard it too lmfao
a school dedicated to physics or general science with his name? makes sense
a medical school though? named after one of the most renowned physicists in human history? a tad odd
The Albert Einstein Fortnite League
He did have some connection to medical care, if funding research on how to deal with the aftermath of radiation sickness counts. Other than that? Just a prestigious name to claim for any institution.
Jew money
The Albert Einstein football team.
I hope there were some strings attached that said the school can't raise its tuition.
Because of course it will.
Tuition now costs, $10 million/student/semester. 😂
The attached string is that they can never charge any tuition again.
It would prob work better as a scholarship voucher program where students can pick any school. Also, purely merit based, no DEI bs.
I kinda agree with him tho, so many people go into medicine to make bank and end up making the medical industry worse. Someone I used to be friends with just constantly says he wants to do med school not to help the needy but to become a physician assistant so he can make the most money doing the least work. I feel like this is a sentiment shared by a lot in the medical industry. He also got into one of my states best medical schools for free because his mom works at the hospital they own. This sort of stuff isn't bringing in the people who should be doctors, its bringing in the people who will take shortcuts to make more money.
Agree yet Veterans are homeless and starving but pay spoiled brats tuition that THEY CHOOSE to have. We need real doctors who care not prescribe pills. How bout we stop paying Pro athletes 30 mill a year, actors way to much, youtubers.....pay them 10% of what they make and use the revenue for good and to help people. Nobody needs that much money, period!! And pay real doctors really well and give free health care? Oh shit can't do that greed is the best! Lets not mention that 80 something bill our rep sent over some where, imagine what that could have done.
The brutal truth though is money makes the world go round. On one hand medical costs in the US are out of control but in the other the US is the leader in medical development and knowledge. It's almost a pick your poison so to speak. If you are rich in the US you get the best medical treatment in the world full stop.
Instead of just making this school free, they should have established a sustainable scholarship program for people who can’t afford medical school but want to become doctors.
everyone at this school is already rich too, their parents have to make 360k in order to be let in.
But then youll have the poors taking spots from the rich kids
@@fatguy9 No one wants to accept that the rich elites hate you, they dont care about your skin color, they care about your bank balance.
They'll let _anyone_ into their group as long as you are likeminded enough and make bank somehow.
They hate the poor/those unwilling to strive for a dollar.
Sorry wealthy idiots, I dont want to burn my short life out faster just to line your pockets for you, I'd rather spend my entire life living like a hermit and programming for fun.
@@fatguy9Only the best ones, most rich kids already have an advantage. (better education, better self esteem, less stress, more free time, although it can be the opposite for the last two, it usually isn't)
@@Tilith well it should be the best ones with the greatest chance to succeed through the program, id argue theres many smart people that dont even have a chance at thinking about med school since theyre expected to get a job after graduation to help their family financially
Med school is expensive as hell. This country needs more doctors. I'm glad those med students got a break and I hope they go on to help a ton of people.
Medicines is also expensive and healthcare makes sure they earn well don't they? In any case I don't think its sustainable.
this is hardly the solution, making the tuition free will only make people dont compete as hard for their spots in that field, guess what, medicine is a very competitive field because you need competitive people when you dealing with human lives, do you really want to have surgery by Dr Fingers (see cyberpunk)
In my country where education is like 99% subsidized, doctors barely earn twice the average. (which is great, don't get me wrong, let's people who WANT to be doctors actually be doctors)
But elsewhere // in the US, cost of education can more or less be seen as any other investment.. which if now free for some, would make it a quite op path to take. I'm sure lots of doctors are going to be salty over this as they already paid, as more doctors means more competition and thus lower salaries.
You don't think that the medical industry is over saturated at the moment?
So many doctors keeping people dependent on pharmaceuticals to keep the endless flow of money going and leaving some people with crippling medical debt.
@@rickycool6083 most of the money is pocketed by a middle man, doctors and nurses have a standard salary, which does not increase according to the costs of the patients, or the healthcare industry profits, in short it is the fault of the mega monopolies for all the problems related to the costs of the healthcare
But I get what the kid is saying. Those who are accepted into the medical school are likely getting all the loans and grants they need to attend. And once they leave, they'll get jobs that are more than able to pay off those loans.
and at this school you have to show youll be able to pay for it, part of being admitted is having parents that make 360k+. one commenter claims that's gonna change with this donation, but every student in that auditorium cheering like their lives have been changed is already very rich.
@@facE055 lmao I'm a literal immigrant and know lots of other 1st generation immigrants who send their kids to med school in america who then go on to become doctors. There are rich people in that room, but you don't need to be rich to go to med school.
@@YourWifesBoyfriendIsn't this the med school in the poorest neighborhood in the whole usa ? (among med schools)
@@Zed-ch9fg exceptions don't disprove the rule. A quick Google finds 48% of medical students come from the top quintile in income and only 6% come from the bottom quintile.
Well And thats why they are making it for everyone Now. Kid is complaining that only rich kids attends med school, which is something this donation is supposed to solve.
Also thinking that being rich is the only requirment to pass med school is stupid. Its the hardest school one can attend, and only the very best manage to get there.
Classic Asmongold, attacks the person instead of the argument.
It's not a bad opinion, considering it's a private school/university that requires the parents income to be over 300 grand per year for the kids to attend.
It's rich people cheering about becoming richer.
If anything, one billion dollars could be better spent building more schools/libraries/community centres/etc, rather than injecting one uni thats already full of wealthy people.
Kinda funny how Zack sees himself as "smarter" than the kids. 🤣
As someone who paid for his college, nothing makes me happier than to see young people not starting life shackled with debt.
@@hermesmcclintok better the the highway robbery that is student loans. that well literally have to get. college costs too much without such funds
I'm in 250k debt with 8% interest from med school alone and I'm not even done. It's bullshit and we're being used for our passion to become physicians.
Even once we get our degree, we go into 3-7 years of more training where we get paid 50-70k usually and our interest on debt is accumulating during this period
Fantastic news when it's a private grant.
Taking money out of the pockets of people who had to forego education because of the cost and giving it to the more fortunate is a little fucked though. i.e don't do it with taxes.
@@ulisesmartinez6432 I'm glad it's free as well, but student loans aren't high way robbery. You take a loan for school, you go to school, you graduate, and then you get a high paying job that allows for paying back the loan. I was able to get loans to go to school and it's the only way i could have went. My grandmother told me she wanted to be a nurse, but in her day they ddin't have student loans so she never became a nurse. Student loans are good.
So how much was your paying for college compared to when that woman was your age?
I can assure you at age 14 I had more organized thoughts than most adults I've met my entire life
I like that it's free for all of the students. Not just for select groups.
So what happens when White Males are rejected for that?
@@blackzero786 It's free for all the students.
Its what theyre doing, actually, Asian men are the most restricted ones. You need to score much, much better as an Asian, then white. Hispanics and Blacks have massively lower standards.
This is literally what Elon was talking about during his Don Lemon interview where Don couldnt comprehend words.
All the info is available online if you want to look it up. If youre a minority, they lowered the standards because of the color of your skin to hire more people of your color. They consider you too stupid to acheive it yourself. @@blackzero786
In theory this is a great move, but this isn't what you all think it is. To get into the Albert Einstein College of Medicine you have to go through a very length interview process in which one part requires you to verify that you or your guardians bring in at least $364,000 per year which is more than 6x higher than the average wage of a dual-income household in the US. This is just free tuition for the already rich.
@@sneakyalmond I think they mean not accepted into the school in the first place.
I will just say this: everyone can look up how many women there are in medical unis, and also statistics on how many women doctors drop their medical career in 2 years. And then in 5 years as well.
Yeah, that's a huge part of why medical education is so expensive.
Based
Can you explain further? You mean the women waste the limited spots of medical schools?
@@yurichtube1162 According to him, I suppose it's a waste of space to have people who aren't dedicated study in the field. I don't know if it's true, but I agree. Not limited to women of course, but in general. I'd rather see that people who keep at it are the ones who study. However, it's also hard to say who will and who won't keep working within the field before they quit.
Women in _every_ field drop out well before their male counterparts/peers do.
Letting them have free reign and special treatment was a mistake, not saying to take their rights away but we really need to end this special treatment, they aren't more capable, in most cases in the large average quantity, women are less capable than men in the workplace.
Almost all women ultimately end up desiring to be homemakers, even if they do not want children, the lies that set women up to compete against men are the big problems in our society.
@@yurichtube1162 Forget graduation rates, even after graduating, women drop careers at way higher rates in their 20-30s because their priorities change and they want to become full-time mothers. So yah, imagine training workers for 4 years who'll leave after 1 year. You're basically wasting those training spots and losing potential workers who ARE willing to stay on in the profession for the rest of their lives. It's not sexism when it's reality slapping you in the face for putting political beliefs before public health.
I mean... the guy has a point. Doctors earn a lot of money in part because they have expensive education costs. By subsidizing this 1 university to such a degree those students essentially just won the lottery and every other student didn't. Super nice gesture by the donator though.
they already won the lottery, to get into that school your parents have to make 360k or more. one commenter claims that's gonna change going forward, idk if that's true or not but every student in that auditorium cheering is already very rich.
I agree, I don't think it was a silly take. Those students will end up making hundreds of thousands a year. Free tuition for social workers, mental health professionals, teachers. Now with the national law enforcement shortage, for criminal justice majors. But nah, lets give it to what will be the highest percentage earners.
@@facE055 kinda sorta you can't help being born into a wealthy family. Those students still have to earn their degrees... For the most part.
@@gladiater56 ya they still have to earn it if they wanna become a doctor or something, but they have every advantage already. giving money to people like that is a waste when compared to vast amounts of other causes.
@@facE055 What are you talking about? I took out student loans to get into medical school. I was a grown adult when I got into medical school and so were all of my classmates. Most of them were actually middle class but we had students from all economic backgrounds. How do the income of my parents even factor into this?
Average tuition is 60k give or take, over 4 years rounds somewhere out to 250k after expenses, 1250 students full time, back paid a year, only gives at most 12 years of free tuition to a 3% acceptance rate school. A billion dollars pays for about 14k Bachelor degrees. That's bonkers, and that's considering people don't drop out, or go for more expensive degrees that just bare minimum
I might be stupid, but who goes to med school for a Bachelors only?
Tuition depends on your country.
a financial endowment is invested and increases over time so no they won't run out of money in 12 years
Ben Gross is COMPLETELY right though, and this is coming from someone struggling in a phd program. You can't just refute him by saying "i remember being young and stupid". The book "How to spend $75 Billion to Make the World a Better Place" outlines the best way to spend money on philanthropy based on economics (obvious there is no objective right answer, but they tried to measure "impact" per dollar), none of which are subsidize the soon to be wealthy. (For those curious the number one solution in the book was to fund micronutrient supplements for children in developing countries, which would have been a far better use of this money).
just wait until this kid sees the military budget and what they use it on
So 1 year of the Military Budget was used to acquire the voting machines in 2020 1 month before the election and no one says a thing.
The food stamps given out by the governement cost more than the military budget. Welfare is an other one that costs more.
Would you like to shut the military down? This whole country is fraudulent and we all know it, 'budgets' 😂
we can end world hunger with the U.S. military budget.
We could literally make a moon base with a fraction of that money, nasa crunched the numbers on that awhile ago @@ryuu0013
I mean if you used it for an anti-lobbying to regulate expenses for higher education it would have higher positive outcomes, he's right for the wrong reason.
Probably not. The best you're getting from that is a fight in government where nothing changes for three more decades and then maybe if it becomes politically viable, eventually a bipartisan bill will pass congress... And then get slapped down in the senate by the filibuster rule.
Or they could... You know. Do actual tangible good now.
But from a charity view, every student in that auditorium just saw their futures brighten by an insurmountable magnitude. Any charity is good charity, and the donor(s) and university deserve praise.
They may not have saved every college student in America from crippling debt, but they saved their students, at least for a few years.
@@JingleJangle256 This is what baffles me. Someone donates 1 billion of their own dollars to make thousands of peoples lives better and people are going "Yeah but you could have given that money to X group instead so you're still a terrible person."
@@JingleJangle256 no they didn't, the basic point that the student made is still valid, not only are these kids already rich based on the comment somebody else has posted showing the parents of kids at this school must make 360k, they're going to continue to be rich after graduating as doctors. this is just giving money to the rich, but since it has to do with school all the people that would usually scream about giving money to the rich are supporting it.
@@facE055 Yeah, but now the school doesnt have a reason to ask for that income check. With the donation, students from all background are able to attend.
The only good part about this story is that the 1 billion isn't strictly designated for BIPOC's although I won't be surprised if that's actually what ends up happening.
Look up the new DEI policies, you need a much higher GPA if your Asian, slightly lower if youre caucasian, while black and hispanic need a much lower one. Its on the DEI website.
Given how schools are anti Jew currently, it would be ironic if they kept Jewish admission to a low. You know, Einstein and all.
@@richarddaigle8777 We just need to start boycotting the benefactors of DEI and the agencies that hire them. Let them all know that we won't accept nothing but merit based outcomes when it comes to our health and well being. Just like the airplane industry.
Its silently only gonna be for black and hispanic. Everyone else is still going to be paying. Fact how theres already a system set in place where you can be dumb as rocks as this race. But need a gpa of 4.0+ if yur asian. Is fucking stupid. I dont want the dumb bag of rocks taking care of me. I want the 4.0 3.0 2.5 gpa person who got in for showing that they were smart and knew wtf they were doing. Not cuz of their race.
@@richarddaigle8777That's so fking racist 😂😂😂
homie is envious
you may criticize the kid's point, however people in this college are already rich. Its going to be tuition free for the rich...
Not all people who go to medical school are rich
@@Cosmopolitim In the USA? Yes, everyone there is pretty much rich
@@Cosmopolitimand at this school it's required for parents income to be above 350k. So your argument us bad and poorly constructed.
@@Kspice9000 Can I have a source?
He never criticised the kids point, just said it was someone who's young's perspective. There isn't a great argument against it really
It's always hilarious to see people go "I can think of a bazillion ways to use it better" or so while not mentioning a single example.
Height of spies the fact that rich people's kids are going to school for free to become even richer while the rest of us suffer
Well, the money would have been wasted on someone like you who can’t even spell species anyway.
Literally Thom Yorke's OK Kid meme.
Lmaoooo editor being savage as always 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
nice profile picture.
"Thank the lord streaming worked out" Editor came out swinging
the privileged helping the privileged and we working class people can't even name what tribe they come from without punishment. Cool existence
most based comment ive seen on this video so far.
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Doctors arent working class? I would say doctors do more for our society than any other job.
Maybe work at getting some 'privilege' yourself and stop bitching about it in a racist way on youtube? Or do you prefer to blame your lack of ability on others too?
Damn all 4 of the students that paid for must be thrilled
Is it one billion yearly? That billion will dry up fast.
I think they’re investing the 1 billion and using the profits from that to fund tuition
@@carbonfibercarpet4655 investing it in what? huh?
@@TrykusMykusdoctors I guess.
@@TrykusMykusI mean if they invested it in the S&P 500 last year they would have made 180 million dollars ish. Plenty to cover tuition.
@@TrykusMykus$1 billion into diverse dividend stocks could sustain tuition for quite some time.
As long as they are truely qualified to do the job right. I just dont want to see them handing out licenses like candy just because its free, we dont need more incompetence in the medical indusrty.
People are actually accepting Asmongold's take on this? HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHA
"Hey guys, < insert number > year old said thing on internet. It's wrong because of his age, you see? AmIrite, fellow gaymers?"
Jesus Christ, how pathetic - at least EXPLAIN why it's a bad take, without shitting on a kid for having an opinion on the internet!
Ahh yes, more doctors and more lives saved. What a truly horrific thought.
They legitimately don't want that. Post WW2 the grand goal of the leftwing in the west has been to dismantle it and that includes making life as miserable as possible as their messaging fails to work in high trust societies where the population feels a sense of connection to the past/a desire to build for the future. Its why the Boomers are as selfish as they are, their college teachers tried it with them but only succeeded in a minor sense.
Nice to know SOME insanely wealthy people’s brains aren’t completely melted. Absolute respect!
Is she gonna do that for the next years enrollies? What about last year's? Couldn't she just reimburse them and retroactively make their year free?
@@sooperd00p trying to compete with the kid in the vid?
In theory this is a great move, but this isn't what you all think it is. To get into the Albert Einstein College of Medicine you have to go through a very length interview process in which one part requires you to verify that you or your guardians bring in at least $364,000 per year which is more than 6x higher than the average wage of a dual-income household in the US. This is just free tuition for the already rich.
@@yeetusdeleetus4697 source?
@@drew651 The public website for the college lmao
"Ben Gross" sounds like a disney villain lmao
If he provided some data, like how (making this up, don't go crazy) 80% of the students that enroll at that school come from very wealthy families, people might've agreed. Alas, no such thing happened.
its a requirement that your parents make 360k to get into the school, another commenter pointed out it says that directly on their website. someone else said after the donation they're removing that requirement, im not sure if that's true or not, but everybody in that auditorium cheering for this is already rich.
@@facE055 Their parents are rich. Not them.
@@Hirome_Satou most asian comment on this video
@@Hirome_Satoucalm down hasan
@@facE055and most disconnected at that, as if asian rich families dont do nepotism lmao
I mean...he's not wrong.
That 1 billion "tution" free, will pay for like...what, 15 students?
I’m in my thirties and I’d rather hear that kids opinion on this subject than Asmongold’s. Anyone can donate their money to anything they want, I’m not mad at it or anything like that. I prefer it that way, we should all have the freedom to do that. But paying off doctors personal loans and ensuring guaranteed profits for a corrupt overpriced institution isn’t exactly what I would call philanthropy. That is a total waste of a donation if your trying To do good in the world. Now if your trying to buy influence over the next generation of doctors, that was a great move. So I’m not exactly happy about this.
ya, it's ironic that people are talking about how dumb "kids" are when the whole "free college = good" is only supported by children who take it at face value without any thought. those of us in our thirties have been seeing this nonsense for over a decade.
Same. Kid has more real life experience then asmond "the rich crackhead, with no real world experience".
That 1 billion could've covered so many fucking trade certifications and degrees, it's laughably insane.
@@Kspice9000 the American medical association has said there is a crippling shortage of doctors but sure lets fund more plumbers, i'm sure they can help you when you're sick
You know what I was doing at the age of 14?
.....idk. can't remember but it wasn't being on Twitter.
It was a routine of going to school, coming back home, doing chores and playing videogames.
Not a single political thought was going through my head.
Well, Ben has a point.
The older I get. The more I support banning kids from social media.
That is all great and all but will these monies go to QUALIFIED med students or the DEI ones who are considered deprived of their “dreams?” Also, hopefully the donation is given to ALL those who are QUALIFIED!!!
The DEI policies make it a lot harder for Asians to become doctors, followed by Caucasians. Hispanic and Black students need a much lower GPA to be accepted already. So you're going to pay for lesser quality doctors right off the bat.
A billion dollars for free tuition for med school students? Congrats to those lucky two students.
Asmon takes another L. The kid does have a point.
Doctors aren't exactly the field that would benefit most from free tuition, as they're well paid and get tons of free stuff from the pharmaceutical companies.
All the scientists doing research, would be the first place I'd think to give the money to. All those chemistry, bio-chem, and biology degrees, heck throw physics, astrophysics, astronomy, and mathematics in there too. Those hard sciences and mathematics would help the most, as they take the debt, do the work we need, but are paid pennies.
Edit: added astronomy.
you realize med school debt averages over 200k right
@@superior_nobody07 And? You realize that they're paid better than most jobs AND get legal bribes from pharmaceutical companies? They're one of the jobs that cam easily handle that debt level, because they have to royally screw up, to not be able to pay it off.
A scientist? They're taking out a loan for a comparable amount, and then get paid peanuts.
You're as delusional as Asmon, if you seriously think that doctors need more free stuff.
Thing is, though, the world needs more doctors. It doesn't need more sociology majors.
@@christianalanwilson434 The things is, I never said sociology, thanks for strawmanning me, as I literally and specifically listed exactly which sciences should get free tuition.
I specifically listed hard sciences, and sociology is a soft science.
I might have made a mistake of not including geology on the list of hard sciences though, so it's technically an incomplete list.
Certainly not things like sociology/psychology/political science/economics.
@@corystarkiller You're welcome. I admit I didn't really bother reading your comment because it does not matter in the slightest how you think someone else should best spend their money. Until you come up with a billion dollars of your own and actually donate it, you're just huffing your own farts.
I'm slightly confused, why is a medical school named after Einstein? Wasn't he a physicist? Is there an Alexander Fleming College for Applied Astrophysics out there somewhere?
$1 billion? wow thats almost 3 students worth of tuition
this just in: bronx medical school board of directors raises tuition to 100,000,000 per year starting next term and oddly enough also ending next term and also votes on some faculty pay bonuses next term as well.
lmao, your starting pay as a doctor is like 50-60k as a resident. you have to put another 200k+ for a specialty tuition on top of 300k for base med school to start cracking into higher pay.
So what were they paying in the 1970s again?
ah yes, the poor trodden upon doctors. what an argument.
After being in college 2 years now I think it's a terrible idea to pay the tuition for students. I agree with the kids take, but not the way he said it. I see so many students in my class that could not care less about being there. Quite often I see them scrolling on their phone for the entire class, or they skip class entirely. I've even seen some playing video games, or watching movies during class with their headphones on. Why even did they even go to class? lol The dropout rate for many colleges is far too high and many people don't even use their degree after college. It makes no sense for us to be handing students a free education. For those reason I think it it a waste.
It'll be interesting to see the tuition rates for that college in the next 5 years too.
Im lactating
das crazy. better not let anyone steal it amirite
Don't work at blizzard 😂
Moo
College is going f2p... Pay to win Exams incoming
Ill be honest im young and i agree with him. Its not exaxtly repulsive free is free but there are better uses for a billion dollars.
I think or at least I sincerely hoped that what Ben might be foreseeing here is that dear old Ruth might pull a "Scott's Tots" in August.
*_Ben Gross out here dropping truth bombs waiting for everyone else to catch up. 🤣_*
"Thank the Lord that streaming worked out" Aint that the fuckin truth 😂
Well, yeah. They are most likely soon to be wealthy. I mean the act of getting into college like that is a huge indicator of success.
I don't think a donation is a ever a bad thing, but a greater difference could probably be achieved in a bunch of places. A bit of a L take to crap on the guy, to be honest.
The US desperately needs doctors and medical professionals.
@@chaost4544 ok. Can you explain how that comment interacts with mine?
@@CytherMeh every first world country has national heath care. The US doesn't because it's a capitalist hellscape, what this billionaire did was a step in the right direction.
Not all people who graduate med school end up becoming doctors and even the ones that do don't necessarily start making a lot of money the second they graduate. My mother got her master's degree as a nurse and didn't start making a decent amount of money until she was in her 40s and even now she still obviously makes less than a doctor. Its not like theyre all gonna be neurosurgeons the second they graduate
@@hellboy19991 it is a step in the right direction.
My point was, could they have used that money to make even greater steps?
Editor always cooking the bald man, I clap
I mean, he has a point. They could have paid off the debt of those who are already in their first years of practice, it could have ended homelessness and poverty in any major city, it could have spayed and neutered every animal currently in shelters so they could be released and not euthanized....but no, lets signal our virtues to a community where only 10% will ever even finish their first year of rotation instead.
well .. next time you feel ill.. you can go to the homeless shelter and ask for help ?!
bla bla bla virtue signaling bla bla bla. Don't be an a*shole, the amount of whataboutism is ridiculous, “Oh, tHiS PeRsoN DonATiNg to ScHoOl, WHat aBoUt HoMelEssnes”
The editor is Heisenberg mixed with Curry, He's cooking and he doesn't MISS
It would have been better for the donation to only go to students who would have no way to afford going to the school but its their money to donate how they want. The only requirement that they had for it was to keep the name Einstein for their school.
It's free tuition, how is that not already covering people who otherwise wouldn't have the means to attend the school?
@@digiquo8143 People who are at the school has money to pay the tuition. Some have to pay a loan, so it should go to them or to new students.
@@digiquo8143 as of now every kid in that school has parents that make 360k+, they dont need it. one commenter claims theyll be removing that requirement due to the donation and im not sure if thats true or not, but every current student that will benefit from this is already very rich.
@@digiquo8143 that money is not infinite and if the free tuition is for both rich and poor then tecnicly some poor will lose their oportunity to do it
"Ben Gross"...yeeeeeah, the name checks out xD.
Yo he's right tho.
Average starting wage for a doctor is between 165k to 208k in 2024 on their first year.
You can pay it all off on your first year of work.
My ex got approved for 750k in student loans when she asked for 125k.
Doctors dont need this help.
You know when they say "Tax breaks for the rich", this is what they mean. You're giving free money to the rich when youre doing this.
You could do this for people that arent going to be worth a million dollars in a decade.
So how many of those doctors pay off what they owe within the first 5 years?
You're not factoring the 3-5 year residency into account which you still need to apply for, get accepted for, and get paid 50-60k a year for. You don't walk out of med school making 6 figures. You're sitting on massive student debt for years before you can even begin to fathom paying that shit off. And that's not even taking into account attempting to start a family.
Think before you speak.
Average salary of a doctor is 40-60k for the first 8 years.
The Average Student loan debt is 500,000$.
They also are expected to be on call, and work 24/7 during the first four years of residency, and then it's another 200K+ to specialize before you actually start making money. Making them earn less then minimum wage when you factor in this 24/7 on call.
"Worth a million dollars in a decade" -- They'll still be paying off their student loans a decade from now. Nevermind the crippling anxiety and stress, from dealing with the worst dregs of society day in and out. From crackheads and junkies, to dead babies, to emergency amputations, and so forth. It's also got one of the highest career suicide rates, a large number of which do so while still in school.
Tell me you know nothing about actually studying for medicine, with out telling me.
And this school has insane requirements of wealth before you can even go there
An actual charity donation with an effect? Wow. Never thought I'd see the day.
Yeah but he's right.
Adam and Eve have get the paradise for free and how it's ended?! People never learn :|
when i watch asmon clips: asmon is the pizza dough, but the editor is the sauce.
“The first step to free healthcare is free medical tuition.”
-me, not knowing anything about either.
The hospitals are a business, not charitable cause.
I didn't have my glasses on, so I thought it was $1 billion for three tuitions. 💀💀
Little bro not wrong
Common Asmon L
To be fair, I also don't think much of most 20 - 30 year olds' views on capitalism, either.
“Get the kids off social media it’s bad for their health!”
Also asmon:
“Banning Pornhub is stupid whats the point lol lemme watch hentai”
😂😂😂
you realize asmon is not a kid, right?
social media is about influencing/manipulating young people. its not the same as allowing adults to consume a legal product
I agree 100% with this kids opinion. Soon to be wealthy and "assuming" they already come from wealthy backgrounds considering the doctors I've met at work came from wealthy families. This is a poor use of one billion.
part of admission at that school is that your parents make at least 360k so they know youll be able to pay it. this is just the rich giving money to the rich.
I guess it's time to get rich 🤷♂️
Unfortunately the easiest way to be rich now is to be born into a rich familly, stories of self made people still exist, but ovviously amongst the hundreds of millions they represent a minority amongst minority @@stevenpoffenberger3344
Ehhh, thats a bit of survivorship bias there.
First, yes, Doctor's do end up wealthy, but thats fair given its 8 years of really difficult education they are going through. Not discounting all the nurses and paramedics who are trained there as well. So making tuition free there is less impactful than making it free at a liberal arts college where most graduates will only be wealthy if they get incredibly lucky after graduating.
But why are all the students from wealthy backgrounds? It's not bwcause wealthy people are the only ones intrested in becoming Doctor's. In fact, most wealthy people want to go into business or politics, as so to follow in there wealthy parents footsteps as business owners or politicians. No, the Doctor's come from wealthy families because the tuition is so high that you physically cannot afford to go through 8 years of medical school unless you family is at least decently wealthy to begin with. By making tuition free, a larger number of graduates will be from poorer backgrounds, although likely still at least middle class ones due to most definitely needing a tutor in order to score well enough in exams to stand any chance of being accepted at the college, given how they are assured to get a hell of a lot of applicant's now, plus accommodation and whatnot likely being seperate costs that need to covered.
Still, it's medical school. Everywhere needs more Doctor's and nurses, and with 8 years of hard education nobody is getting through without being at least decently competent even if they don't have 100s of thousands at risk if they fail the exams, so it's definitely the first place that should be giving free tuition.
May be a simpleton take, but there are still better uses than free tuition to medical school students.@corvus8638
Lol editor taking shots
I see where the kid is coming from. I'm not gonna call it repulsive. Ppl are free to do what they want with their money. Definitely not the best use of the money imo tho.
College tuition costs have exploded because of govt loans and the plethora of ridiculous scholarships being handed out to ppl that don't always deserve them.
This is yet another example of treating a symptom instead of a disease.
So are we allowed to question Senile Old Women yet?
@@blackzero786 hell no! Especially not if they are extremely old politicians that are openly using their position to do massive quantities of insider trading.
Lol. I am 34, studied 2 major and 2 minor subjects in language and business in a public University in Europe and I don't know why I need to feel the urge to comment to this random idiotic video of a topic that needs public attention whatsoever. But I guess "Asmond" . I think what the kid said is right, just wrongly phrased. You also think I am a stupid shit, Zack? Albert Einstein University is private, and with it the 14 hospitals which belong all to Montefiore health system. People who applied at that University certainly weren't able to afford this by doing part time at nightclubs. Rich kids or kids that were born rich are there. Why didn't the money go to a public University that is actually targeted by people who picked it BECAUSE they knew it was affordable, BECAUSE they knew they didn't have the money for private schools? Or even better: Schools that help people of lesser education due to their social status actually achieve a level of education that our f.u. society is not looking down on?
Why? Little research that you could have done with your 34 years:
The money came from her husband. Investor of Berkshire Hathaway and friend of Warren Buffett.
A lot of their "philanthropist" money went into stem cell and cancer research.... Like Bloombergs, or Gates etc.
I can guarantee you, not a single one your poor viewers is going to get a chance of entering that school,no matter how competitive, if he/she is not already in there. Next to money a huge amount of Vitamine R, long letters of recommendation, luck with the AAMC and a huge amount in their prerequiring educational, characteristical, personal and of course cultural background gave the soon to be wealthy their entrance ticket to a University that accepts only about a 100 students each year. Surely we will have a lot more students next year like they said after that donation ? XD
Taken from their homepage:
"The Committee on Admissions will use the entire application to ensure that the candidate has demonstrated reasonable accomplishment of all of the identified competencies; this includes the AMCAS application, academic record, personal comments, roster of experiences, letters of recommendation, the Einstein secondary application, written and verbal communication with the Admissions Office, and interview (where applicable)."
Sounds like the school anyone thinks he/she can enter right?...
And that is only a fraction of their requirements.
" In our experience, the above Knowledge Competencies are most successfully attained by applicants who have had a minimum of three years of study toward a baccalaureate degree from an accredited college or university in the U.S. or Canada as well as 40 credit hours of science and mathematics, including advanced biology courses... "
That surely includes people who grew up in the Bronx.... XD
So, don't worry. I thought also had a lot of shit like you in my head when I was 33. And yes, the world would be a better place if, may a quote you," stupid shits" like you weren't on social media reacting to a topic while your viewership, not even reaching a 3rd of your age, is taking your side without any thought or research whatsoever.
Their admissions dept is going to enroll based on the following, in order, the top being the most important, the bottom being the least:
1) Race (POCs)
2) Gender
3) Sexual Orientation
4) Political Beliefs
5) Physical Size
6) Social Media Standing
7) What Kind of Car you Drive
8) Are you a Vegan
9) Do you support Palestine or Israel
10) Do you believe in Marxism
11) High School GPA / Merit
Source? Or are you just being mad for no reason. Also Asians and Indians count as PoC and usually win out on merit as well btw.
American colleges used to do that and it heavily discriminated upon asians because they would dominate academics, so they made higher requirements for asians and the lowest for black people, but I'm pretty sure Affirmative Action has been outlawed last year, has it not?
Edit: apparently they can still legally discriminate based upon gender, so women have it easier to get into STEM and men easier to get into Nursing degrees.
@@34125867 They did it, but it wasn't their priority. Over 90% of admissions were still merit based. So his list is incorrect.
@@jimqjordun6431 You... you do understand this is a troll, right?
@34125867 I'm glad I graduated when I did. College is such a mess now anyways that if I could do it all over again I'd just go to a trade school or just focus on certifications and experience over an actual degree.
So this school is going to be so competitive forcing other medical schools to lower tuition and in turn other schools in other fields will need to lower tuition to try and convince young adults to swap fields because people will just try to get into the school because its free tuition. It's a good domino effect...hopefully. IM HOPING
hopefully this doesnt effect the already dwindling medical care i have experienced. patients not receiving medications they need on time if not at all, botched surgeries, doctors that dont listen or even know what their doing
edit: leaving typos to trigger terminally online weirdos with no friends
Strong, someone who can't tell the difference between "their" and "they're" calling doctors out for not knowing what they're doing.
I don't know about all doctors, but I do know that psychiatrists get up to $270k where I work. Physician pay starts at $225k in many locations. That's not even looking at the much higher pay in specialty services or surgery...
People who think medical school is an easy route to wealth are insane. The hours put in by most doctors are ridiculous, so much so that it's generally a massive issue when it comes to dating because doctors struggle dating non doctors because the schedules just never match, that'S why you always see doctor couples. And let's be frank, if doctors weren't paid a ton I'd be very worried about the quality of care I'd be receiving.
It isn't easy, that is why they get compensated so well for doing it
Nobody said its easy, but as long as you can do it even on moderate level you will be well paid. Dating life is personal business, you think dating as a doctor is hard? Try dating as a construction worker or worse a garbage collector.
Americans have this weird attitude if its costs more its better, when most of the world, almost everyone understands that medical care is very basic and needs to be given at a fair manageable price as to help as many people as possible. Helping people remember? not helping the rich alone.
Then the same Americans would complain about pharma companies and American medical care being anti consumer.
It's super easy if you compare to modern programming, ppl don't evolve that fast so skills\knowledge u got while educating is always relevant, it's much easier and req much less IQ, you will always have a job, AI isn't replacing you right now and in near future, your money gain is WAY higher while taking much less effort, so it's an easy route, the only barrier is it;s costy but not anymore so no downsides
Well, I put in more time being a truck driver, I live in a truck 2 weeks at a time then I come home for two days to shop for food and pay bills for a place I do not even live in for more than 6 days a month. Then, on my time off I have to restock my supplies, do laundry, and a ton of other things before I go and do it all over again. Forgive me if I do not care about rich doctors not being able to go on a date because they work long hours. At least they have the option to go on a date if they want to, hell they can call in sick and go on date if they were really feeling spicy. I call in sick and I sit in a parkinglot in some random town while crakhead hookers bang on my door all night.
Doctors are important, sure, but lets not act like they are destitute and have things so horrible that their lives are hampered in any way. They work long hours, so do other people.
@@justinlight449 no its not, being a programmer is easier than being a heart surgeon end of story.
Look how smart he is using his little buzz words
Well the education level just went to 0
Lol what? If anything the application requirement is gonna be a nightmare since there will be a lot of competition aiming for that free tuition. Assuming you’ve never transfer or enrolled on a UC you’ll won’t know how to difficult it is.
0:51 And you have blood on your walls
I actually agree with the guy. There are wayyy more better uses for that money than to just make one university tuition free.
Yup
Like?
And? Not your money, she could spend it on useless shit or give it all to her grandchildren, yet she chose to do something good.
Just because she didn't chose one of 1000000 other ways of spending, doesn't mean anything. No matter what she would decide, there would be assholes that don't like her just because she had money.
@@Teuwufel This serves only to dodge the inheritance tax, don't be blind and believe in 'The Benevolent Rich'.
Ben Gross living up to his name
Lmao that editor comment is the best burn of the century