How Do You Bend On EverTune Bridge - Explained
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
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Today we're talkin' about how to achieve OPTIMUM BEND on an EverTune Bridge!
The trick is to bring the "Tension" of each string up to the "Bend Stop" between Zone 2 & 3. This way when you apply extra Tension you'll bring the system into Zone 3 and the Pitch will then be Affected!
...I promise its way easier than it sounds!
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No shade at you, I know others enjoy all the detail and I realize it takes a lot of effort to make, I enjoy what you do, just couldn't make it through this one, thank you though!
Cool dude.
If you’re looking for bare bones “Diagram Style Explanation Videos you can find them on the EverTune Website ➡️ www.evertune.com/resources/animated_video_tutorials.php
Have a good one.
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This was amazingly helpful. I've just gotten an ESP LTD EC-1000 BB with an EverTune and only the bottom three strings had bend and the high three, didn't. Just followed your very easy explanation and now have 'optimum bend'. Thanks man!
Im glad it was helpful! 💪🏼
Enjoy the new guitar!
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Hey, man!
Your videos have been an enormous help & not only have you curbed most of my anxiety about owning an EverTune, you’ve amped up my excitement too as I’m getting my first guitar with that system in the upcoming week, thank you so much!
Hey!
I'm just seeing this comment! I'm pumped for you!! Enjoy it and let us know if you have any questions!
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Thx dude! Best explanation of the Evertune, I have seen!🤘👍
Thank you! I’m glad it was helpful!
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THANK YOU! I've been ignoring this bridge for years because I bend and vibrato quite a lot... may have to pick one up now!
Do it!!
It still takes a little bit if getting used to as far as getting set up. Its a different set of things to do than on a standard guitar, but once you’re there you’re there.
Let us know how it goes!
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Incredibly helpful. Thanks!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!!
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Thanks, waiting on my EC-1000ET I've ordered.... so I liked and subbed. Great explanation. Looking forward to the setup/intonation vids.
Im glad to hear the video was helpful!
Thanks for joining the crew!
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Dang it, Matt. You've demystified the Evertune to the point that now I think I need a guitar with one. Lol. Great video as always, man!
Thanks dude!
Get one!
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Nice tutorial, thanks!! I just got an MH-1007 EVERTUNE esl/Ltd guitar yesterday 😁
Nice! Congrats!!
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Best explanation I found, thanks! I would say that the tension is higher when you set up the bridge to bend. It is noticably higher - like if you use a gauge thicker strings. But if you use it in the zone two (no bending), the tension is the same as on guitar with fixed bridge.
I’m glad you think so!
That could be. Honestly really only use the system set up for bending. But it makes a bit sense to feel a bit difference in the tension. Though I can’t exactly say I’ve noticed it with my guitars.
To me the system feels similar in tension to playing a Floating Tremolo. Like there is always a force pulling on the strings a bit. But I like that! I think it allows me to play a smaller gauge string and still have a bit if tension. I use 9’s as opposed to 10’s on my 7 strings and they are really comfortable for me.
Anywho, Thanks for watching!
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Great information & a really good job explaining the evertune. Just got one. Thanks!
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
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Amazing explanation, thanks so much!!
Glad it was helpful!
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Perfect explanation. Thx !!!
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This helped a lot thank you!
Awesome! You’re welcome!
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very helpfull.thanks Man for this video
You got it! I have a very EverTune related videos so be sure to check em out! 🤘🏼😜
Thank you!
You’re welcome! 🤘🏼😜
Hey man I’ve been considering trading in my Horizon 7 for this exact EC-7 model for a bit now, and your evertune videos have helped clear up a lot of air for me.
I’ll give the guitar a shot and do the deal! I am just a bit worried because bending and super wide vibrato are big parts of my style (along with 9 gauge strings) but it should be worth a shot
Im glad the Videos have been helpful!
I love this guitar. The EverTune system has been such a great tool for me.
Like all things it has its pros and cons. But once you understand the mechanics I thank anyone could find this bridge useful.
Let us know how it works for you!
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Great stuff, man, thanks! Answered all the questions I was asking when I ran my search! Now I have some new questions, like "How do you change tunings on these things??" 😂
Well you use it similarly to a Floating Tremolo. You can only set it for one tuning at a time. But you can change tunings whenever you’d like, you’ll just have to tune using the saddles and set the guitar up accordingly.
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particulary liked how you showed how the spring is pulling the string holding thingy back!
Emphasizing the saddle moving back like this ties what I'm talking about in this video to the video that followed this one about How to Intonate an EverTune Bridge. Check it out if you haven't!
Glad you enjoyed the vid!
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Hey brother really appreciate you thanks for the video keep doing the damn thang much love
I appreciate YOU!
Thanks for making my day! Hope you have a great one! Thanks for watching!
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If only I'd of had teachers like you when I was at school. I might of learned more ! Thanks, Matt !
PS: it's because of you I'm listening to Pro - Pain again after all these years ! Give my best wishes to Gary and tell him, 'Thanks' ! 🤗👍✌️🤘
Ha! Awesome!! I think parents would be pissed if their kids came home from a day of lessons with me! I’d have them doing whammy bar squeals all day!!
Glad you’re back on the “Pain-Train”! Enjoy!
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Matt, you say whammy bar squeals like it's a bad thing ! 😆🤗✌️🤘👍👋
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Really helpful man. I sat over my brand new guitar and thought, goddamn what magic is this. It's in tune now, so thanks a lot.
Lol I know the feeling!
Congrats on the new guitar!
Stick around for more cool content!
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@@MadManMusic Thank you so much, yes i will. Sub incoming! Keep up the good work!
@@dynatwenty Thanks! 🤘🏼😜
Just pre-ordered thr LTD TE-1000 that comes with evertune. This is a great video that helps ease my nerves. I got the evertune because I don’t like the FR on my other guitar. So.. when I get this guitar I plan on dropping it to C# standard or drop C. I think I’m still a little confused as what the whole bend thing is all about :) sorry!
Well feel free to ask questions! Enjoy your new axe!
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Underrated channel
Thank you! Help the channel grow by sharing it with others!
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I have two Evertune guitars and I love it but this one thing. Both mine are a little bit “soft” at the zone 2/3 transition. In order to drop back into the upper edge of Zone 2 (watching with a tuner to be sure and stop as soon as it gets there) bending ( vibrato ) is still a little less sensitive than I get from my Floyd guitars.
I have experienced a similar thing with one of my guitars. I'm still trying to sort out whats happening to cause it... Its not a lot but its noticeable.
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Gr8 video
Thanks! I hope it was helpful!
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@@MadManMusic very. I'm now starting your next 2 evertune videos :)
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Let us know if you have questions!
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I agree 100% with Matt. There hasn't been any innovation associated with the electric guitar basically since it's inception.
Brass blocks aren't that innovative, at times steel blocks still seem to sound better in fact.
As a recent Evertune bridge convert, it really is a game changer, regardless of playing style, unless your a Satch or Vai or Beck true tremolo user.
Many players insist on having a Floyd Rose yet they hardly use it, which is not worth all the tuning headaches associated with it IMO.
I agree, Floyds are a lot of work... useless you "USE" it.. Its not something I've ever really focused on. I can do a bunch of fun stuff with it but it just not a priority for me in my playing.
I would rather have the tuning consistency. Being able to just pick up my guitar and know its in tune is just WILD!
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@@MadManMusic Agreed! I own a guitar startup company called Sustain Guitars, and every customer starts out selecting a hotrodded Floyd, however now I've got a legitimate option for the to consider.
The question I have to ask is how often do you really use such a temperamental bridge?
The hardest part is getting them to believe their is actually an alternative that stays in tune like the Evertune does. It's also seemingly impervious to even humidity! 🙏
Hey again!
Literally the only “Con” to using the EverTune system is that you’re Locked into one Tuning. Not so unlike a Floyd.
But when the system is set up properly you can literally set it and forget it.
Once its in tune, it will stay in tune. You just have to adjust the tension to allow for Bending. This will shift and change with time. This process takes no longer than it would to tune any other guitar.
The system is perfect for Studio and Touring Musicians. However might be a little much for the Bedroom Players.
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@@MadManMusic and since they are such a technology based company, it's likely only a matter of time until they unveil a tremolo version of Evertune, we just must believe this to be true.
While I haven't asked them specifically since being in contact with them, it's the next logical step on the drawing board, no?
I mean we now use ABM's Katana 5400 floating tremolo, all inclusive and zero upgrades necessary, you've already got Sophia with their tremolo system on the market, already just like the ABM making the FR style obsolete.
I realize Ibanez has patented some extremely impressive designs with their Edge systems, they are not a universal product for other manufacturers to implement.
As for Sustain Guitars, while we are in a holding pattern due to our own utility design patent, which is unrelated to the bridge, we've partnered with ABM for now because of their quality and constant research and development towards all their products.
Not to change the topic, but since this isn't in direct competition with Evertune at this time, for those that haven't ever likely even heard or demoed an ABM Katana, don't just take my word for it, here's the original review that hit me over the head like an Anvil when I was introduced to it:
www.projectguitar.com/product_reviews/guitar_parts/abm-5400-katana-tremolo-system-r4/
ABM was also kind enough to feature us on their homepage even to this day, which was the first guitar we custom built for a very famous and demanding client, and also our first design to feature a non-FR,
abm-guitarpartsshop.com/
Please do not consider this a shameless plug, as it's not intended to be.
While we're still awaiting for our USPTO approval, were still taking orders when space allows.
Keeping your finger on the pulse of new technology in this extremely competitive business is the only way to stand out and win customers for life, that's my opinion and our mission statement of sorts.
The customer is always right, until they are misinformed or simply out of the loop.🤘
I dig it! Well I hope to have the opportunity to Jam one of your guitars one day! Im sure the quality and attention to detail is impeccable!
Im not sure if EverTune will make a Floyd-Like Tremolo system.. the amount of play that you have in tension in Zone 2 (the section of the system where your pitch will not change and bending is impossible) is pretty large.. thus, a tremolo effect is kind of impossible..
But you’re right, if they were to expand of their design, a trem would be a seemingly obvious idea.
We’ll see! I’d definitely rock an ET-Trem!
Thanks for all the info, good luck with your brand!
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Thanks for the helpful video, Curious about how it works with a first fret slide down which would do a tiny drop in pitch on a normal bridge which is something we do on a couple songs, or with jumbo frets when I push to hard and it goes sharp, if I set it up for bends I guess that would still go sharp? maybe when recording certain things you might want to put it more in the middle of zone 2?
When set up correctly it will function exactly the same as any other guitar!
And yes, when recording rhythms that are meant to be solid and not top bendy, pulling the tension from the tuning machines a good 1/2 turn or so will put you in a good place.
However I rarely do this.. i usually keep it step up for bends. In this position your rhythm playing is still going to be in Zone 2.
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Who makes the Evertune bridge? It seems like you would need some heavy duty tuners to keep up with all the zones! Got to have those bends!
EverTune is the Brand. And regular tuners work just fine. Easy peasy! 💪🏼
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This would have been perfect without the background guitar! Overall though I'm glad you made this video. These bridges are tricky business.
I have an entire playlist of EverTune Tutorials if you need more help.
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Thanks for watching!
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OK so it looks everything cool, but I think that while bending you are going from zone 2 to 3 to change the pitch, but while bending string lose some tension.
Then each time, you are more far away from zone 3 so you need to bend more because it's changes the distance from zone 3, so you again need to set strings back to where you want them to be beetwen zone 2 and 3 to make bends work like in normal guitar.
Which is kind of pointless, because I still need to move locking tooners like in normal bridge everytime I play some, but it's just does not allow strings to sound of without bends and that's all what evertune bridge does
If I'm right then I'm not sure if I should buy it. And it also removes flexibility of tuning the way you want it to be if I'm correct, for example I have strings 11-48 on 6 string guitar. And evertune bridge lock it into DROP D, but I want to go into DROP B#, does it allow me to do that to be in beetwen zone2 and zone3 to use bends?
Hi sorry for the late reply.
Yes, in order to bend you need to be set up right at the end of Zone 2 going into Zone 3. So when you're not bending you're in Zone 2 and the System is Working.
Yes, if you do not stretch your string properly when you change them Excessive Bending will result in the tension being reduced and that string falling further into Zone 2, making it harder to bend. But this won't be a problem if you make it a habit to stretch your strings well from the beginning. After that you'll have quick Bend Stop Check when you pick up the guitar to play (which is no different then checking your tuning on any other guitar each time you play) and you'll be good to go!
Yes, the EverTune system does limit Alt Tuning Flexibility. You can easily set the guitar up in Drop D and then just tune the Low E up into Zone 3 to have Standard E tuning... However that E will then be susceptible to Tuning Issues as the EverTune system is not working on that specific string at that point. But again, realize that this is the case and check your tuning once in a while.
As I mention in all the videos I've posted about the EverTune, its definately not for everyone. But its a complete game changer for those that can make use of it.
For instance, when I tour with my band Pro-Pain, I play in Standard B (7 string) and thats it. So I literally never have to check my tuning throughout our hour and a half set! THAT is worth the limitations!
Thanks for the questions, I hope I have helped you out!
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Cheers man, i had major anxiety about taking an evertune out on the road. How do you stretch of the strings?
Thats a great question!
What you want to do is bring the saddles all the way to their bend stop position, use your right pointer finger to pull up on each string one at a time and use your left pointer to slide down the neck from the headstock towards the bridge.
I’ve found that this is the best and most consistent way to stretch string both on a ET and Without!
But be sure to set the tension to the bendstop. ☝🏼
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@@MadManMusic cheers Matt, u r a legend!
So it seems there is a very small amount of distance you have to bend before the ET bridge stops adjusting, which means the play that is needed to affect this would be very tiny. What I don't get is, it seems like the ET bridge only keeps it in tune of the strings tend to go flat as they stretch. A string that tends to go sharp would simply pull the ET bridge saddle to the stop point would it not? In other words, it would only auto-adjust the tension effectively when they go flat? And wouldn't slight vibrato be gone entirely?
Hey Alan, thanks for the question!
Yes and No. Zone 2 (where there is 100 tension compensation) is pretty vast.. there is lots of play in that area so you could easily set the system to Not Bend. But its recommended to set the system near to the end of Zone 2 so that when you add tension, like with a bend, it will effortlessly move into Zone 3 and feel natural.
Yes the way the system works specifically is that you’ll notice it working more with string that go flat rather than sharp, but thats just physics and the fact that in order for the guitar to play “Naturally” you need to be close to the area where “Added” tension brings you to the bend stop.
However, if you want Zero Bend, for instance you want to record super solid rhythms, you could set the guitar a bit deeper into Zone 2. Then you wouldn’t notice string slippage in either direction.
I hope that helps! Let me know if you have more questions!
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I am a blind player, considering an Everton purchase and have watched many videos… I still want to just confirm this what I think to be true, that you don’t actually have to see anything happening with that saddle to be able to tune to a bending state right between two and three, correct? Thanks!
Hey! Welcome and thanks for the question!
As long as your guitar is initially setup and tuned correctly, you can make the proper tension adjustments for bending completely by ear.
I have also posted another tip in a few video that might be useful. When you want to find the bendstop (which is the most ideal position for bending) lightly pull up on each string. You’ll hear the mechanism inside the saddle tap the bendstop. Raise the tension using your tuning machine until the click goes away. That means the mechanism is now sitting against the bendstop and you are in Zone 3. Loosen the tension slightly until that click faintly returns and you’ll be in the perfect spot for bending and staying in tune!
I hope that helps. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions!
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Thanks! Thought that was you on that short video you just reference, have that book marked along with this one! Feeling confident now, and going to pull the trigger on that Everton Phoenix!
@billperry719 Do it!! Enjoy it!
And again, if you need help just ask!
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Yer a life saver! After changing the strings on my Jackson I lost the bends But after watching yer video ,YES ! They’re back!! But i have another issue. When I was changing out the strings the stops turned in where i had to remove (six screws) on the back plate to where i could thread the strings thru the stops. Do you have any cure for this particular issue? The guitar is a Jackson Pro Series Dinky DK Modern EverTune
Hey glad I could help!
Do you mean like when the Tension is completely loose because theres no string? The saddles will pull in towards the Springs..
Unfortunately theres not much that can be done about that in particular. You "shouldn't" have any issues reaching the slots for the strings... if its seems REALLY bad, I'd recommend contacting EverTune...
Keep us posted.
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@@MadManMusic Yes, but not all the strings. Just a couple of strings. A guess is maybe when I had it set up the tech wasn’t aware of how to work with the unit. I know he didn’t know how to set it up for bending using the 3rd zone method. I will get in touch with both Jackson & EverTune. Thankx for the great video & rapid reply.
No trouble dude. I hope it gets solved for you. Keep us posted!
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@@MadManMusic I haven’t heard back from Jackson but here’s what ai got back from EverTune : That's unfortunate, it can happen depending on the thickness of the body and the string action, as these factors determine where the husk of the string module is situated when there is no string on it. In such a case, modifying the back plate by enlarging the hole would be the only option to resolve this. Best regards, Fabian -
So now I have to someone how to modified back plate?
Hmm.. I know Fabian, he’s a good dude. We’ve been chatting for a few years now. He’s Austrian but lives here in Germany so we talk a lot about life here in D-Land, but he’a very knowledgeable and gives good advice. But I think here he knows that its hard to tell how serious the situation is without seeing it.
Maybe you should try to get it set up properly before making any modifications to your pickguard/backplate
Maybe adjusting the action or intonation might correct this issue.
Make sure your open notes and your 12th fret notes are perfectly in tune when played and see if that points you in the right direction.
Keep us posted.
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when it's in zone 2 and the pitch stays the same after bending it a few times, what tuning is the string set to? basically what i wanna know is, how do i set up the tuning i want?
You’ll use the “Fine Tuners” inside of the Saddles to tune the guitar to whatever pitch you’d like as long as there is enough String Tension to do so.
So mind your string gauges. If you’re using a set that’s extremely heavy or light you may want to check the EverTune website and use their String Tension Calculator to determine if you need Low or High Tension Saddle Mechanisms. However if you’re using something more traditional, 9s 10s, you’ll be fine with the stock saddles.
Have a look at this video for more info on fine tuning.
How To Fine Tune AND Intonate an EverTune Bridge!
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Hey! I love this video, it’s been super helpful for me. But I’ve noticed something odd and I’m not certain if it’s something that I’m doing wrong or something that’s normal.
I’ve found that if I bring the string up to the cusp of zone 3 then back it off into zone 2, my tuner shows that I am several cents sharp. Like, about as much as a pitch jump from picking hard. If I back down the tension til it’s just back in tune, I can bend but only slightly and after I’ve pulled the string into what would normally be a 1+ step bend.
Is this right? Or am I doing something wrong? Thanks in advance!
Hey Dude, I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Thanks a GREAT Question.. One which is bit difficult to answer..
But here's a few things it could be.
1) String Tension. If you changed your string gauge to something smaller, say from 10's to 9's, you might experience this. I've had this happen to me. Sometimes a "Lower Tension" Saddle replacement is in order if its really bad..
2) Defective Unit (saddle) - If you haven't changed gauges its possible its a faulty saddle.
I suggest contacting EverTune and having their support team walk you through the process of "Resetting" your Saddles for those strings.
I have attempted the "Reset" a few times on my own guitar and it wasn't successful so until I get it to work I'm not advertising it on my channel. BUT if that is the case for you and your find success with it please share your findings!
Otherwise, Thanks for watching and consider giving the video a "Super Thanks" as it really helps out the Channel!
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@@MadManMusic Thanks for the info, dude! I just reached out to them! For now I’ll just enjoy the perfectly in-tune riffing of zone 2 😂🤘🔥
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@@MadManMusic so if I just changed the string gauge to a lighter one will it just not work at all? (I just switched from 10's to 9's)
No. Its rare but sometimes there is a tension issue and a “Low Tension Saddle” might be required.. before any of that head over to the EverTune Website and check their “Tension Calculator”. But 9s shouldn’t be a problem at all.
If you’re experiencing an issue, i suggest contacting EverTune Support and asking then to walk you through a Saddle Reset and see if that helps.
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My lowest string just keeps on going higher in pitch but I'm not reaching zone 3 and I'm too afraid to go higher lol. Any workaround or do I just go as high as I can for it to get to zone 3? I must have done something wrong because the pitch keep rising way higher than it's supposed to. All other strings are in D standard but the lowest (thickest) string raises to over E and still no bend stop. Zone 2 is where I'm supposed to tune it from the bridge right?
This sounds like maybe you need to "reset" the Saddle.
On that string, use your hex key to Loosen/ Detune the Saddle as far as it will go, making sure to Adjust the tension with the Tuning Machine along the way to insure you're still in Zone 2. Once you've done that, check the tuning. At that point you "Should" be lower than D. From there do the opposite and Tune Up to D.
Give that a try and let us know how it works.
If it doesn't work, I would suggest talking to EverTune Customer Support.
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Does evertune cause a decrease in sustaine when bending? Like a longer bend as you would hear from Dave Gilmore. I like a nice long sustained bend sometimes and would hate to lose that.
While bending you’ll actually have added sustain (in theory) because the Spring Mechanisms in the bridge will be disengaged. But then that also depends on the radius of your neck and your action.
But i have noticed that when you’re just ringing out a chord you might have slightly less sustain. Because of the system is trying to balance the tension.
Similar to a Floyd Rose Tremolo.
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Vibrato and bend is so important for me and hard to achieve with thin strings so I sold my Evertune guitar.
I play 9- 54 on my Seven String and they bend fine! You can also buy Low Tension Saddle Replacements for even lower gauge strings! 🤘🏼😜
Low tension saddle? I might be getting a Vinter 8, should I request this saddle or do I have to do this mod myself?
Im not sure if you’re able to request this unless the build is custom and someone is ordering the bridge from EverTune directly….
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I'm having some difficulties at the moment. I have one string (5th) that keeps raising in pitch when I turn the tuning peg on the headstock. It is way too high for the pitch I want. Is it safe to tune from the bridge if I'm at this situation? I don't want to go way too sharp with the tuning peg on the headstock. If I try to loosen the string it doesn't lock into any set tuning. The bridge saddle is quite close to the bridge pickup.
That sounds like a series of issues.
What I would suggest is loosening the tension using the tune peg until the string is very loose, the tuning the bridge saddle all the way flat (So counter clockwise), then raising the tension again using the tuning peg to see where it lands as far as pitch. Then adjust the saddles tuning (in Zone 2) to whatever note you’re trying to achieve.
This process should “reset” your saddle, so to speak.
Let us know if that helps.
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@@MadManMusic Thanks it worked!
@MikaTarkela Awesome! 🤘🏼😜
Sounds like you would have to be constantly checking for gaps on vibratos and bends if the strings become loose and they could go sharp over the bend stop due to friction in the nut after lots of bending.
Generally your strings dont go sharp from bending (or any type if rigorous playing), they’ll go flat. And when an EverTune when that happens, if you didnt stretch your strings properly, you will go flat.. but what that equates to is the Pitch staying the same (perfectly in tune) but the ability to bend will be lessened.
But when you change your strings just stretch them properly (meaning until that dont go flat when stretching them) and you wont have that issue and you’ll retain all of those beautiful bends!
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@@MadManMusic heh I know, I guess I’m just rejecting the change again. :) Nice channel man, thanks for explaining everything and I like how you improved the video quality in your recent videos too. You’re a good presenter.
@spatnaspolecnost Thanks for the compliment. 😊
I’m always trying hard to learn how to do things better each time.
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Ive been working on guitars for 30 plus years.ive set up i gues 6 or so evertunes. I thought it was genius at first. And to be fair, it's really awesome when you take one apart and see the module itself. Its an amazing design, but, seems to me that when you get to the bend-stop ( zone 3) , the threshold is done for....no more string help. For example if you simply go straight into zone 3, those springs are just dead mass now which is a good thing on an electric but if you do need to bbend, i really cant see any advantages.
Im not sure I follow.
Once you reach / setup the guitar just before the Bend-Stop, you can bend notes and add vibrato just like any other guitar. So you stay perfectly in tune when you’re not adding extra tension by bending/vibrato and then you can simply do those things and the system will go up in pitch.
It really is genius!
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So I went to try this at the store. When I got the guitar from zone 3 to zone 2 - which was an alarming amount of tuning up - the saddle was pulled way forward and no longer floating. It was my understanding you should be able to tug the string with your picking hand and see the saddle move - but this guitar would not. None of the techs at CME knew what the problem was, which I suspected maybe it had saddles for a different gauge installed. Any ideas why this is, because your low E looked like it was still floating in this video! I didn’t buy the guitar without an answer to this.
If you pull on the string the saddle will move as you add tension. The thing is when you tune your system you’re not at “max tension”, you’re at something below that, at the threshold of the bend stop.
You never want to be IN Zone 3. Always at the very end of Zone 2.
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@@MadManMusic yes I did that but the saddle was so far forward I almost couldn’t get they tuning key in. Do you think it’s possible the spring behind the guitar need to be tightened like a Strats?
No, you shouldn’t need to adjust the springs. I would contact EverTune and see what they advise. And if necessary have a technician take a look at it.
Sorry its giving you trouble!
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@@MadManMusic I think I solved this. My guess is that someone installed the “low tension” modules on this guitar, then it was restrung with regular gauge. The “break stop” would be too much pressure and pull the saddle towards the nut. Since each module is $40, and there doesn’t seem an obvious way to identify the style of module, replacing would be very costly and a good warning about buying second hand without having that information disclosed. Your video was very helpful, but I don’t recall you showing the saddle hitting the break stop. The break stop just means the saddle stops floating, allowing the bend to happen. Perhaps that can be shown, or you did and I was distracted. The break stop is the key to understanding the Evertune.
Hmm.. it seems fairly unlikely that they would have installed the wrong Tension Type, but its not impossible i suppose.
You mean the “Bend Stop” and yes I speak about it frequently because people dont really seem to understand the importance of being in Zone 2 just before the Bend Stop and Not in Zone 3. (For anyone else reading this, that was for you! 👊🏼)
This system is a bit of a balancing act and its not kind to really extreme string gauges. More than 10’s you’ll have problems. But once you have everything set up nicely you’ll find that these bridge work really well and are unbelievably consistent.
Let us know how the saddle replacement goes!
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But does the fact of having to fix the bending zone quinda nullify the advantages of the evertune system ? I mean, if I buy an evertune guitar, I dont wan't to have to adjust the tension under any circumstances.
Im not sure what you’re referring to exactly, but I can assure you that when this system is set up correctly it feels and plays like anything other guitar.
As you play and the string tension “loosens” or if you were using a traditional bridge “go flat” you’ll have to raise the tension back to the threshold pf the bendstop.
This takes mere moments and doesn’t require a tuner. So its really easy.
Once set up, you just maintain the tension in the correct position and you wont have to do any serious adjustments until the next string change.
I hope that makes better sense. If not, lemme know!
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If I am in zone 3 where I can bend, will it permanently hold tune as if I was in zone 2? Or will it go out tune eventually like a normal bridge does?
The only place your tuning is regulated by the tension system is in Zone 2.
So yes, it will change in Zone 3 because the Tension System is Beyond its Max which is the Bend Stop.
Hope that helps!
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@@MadManMusic Thanks, you don't know how many places I've looked to see if someone asked this question haha. Guess it was just common sense lol.
@@MadManMusic Also, one more question: I see the Evertune has a string gauge calculator to see what goes with a standard tension module. I tried my James Hetfield signature 11-50s and it says they work with anything up til c standard; Will my strings be uncomfortable to play on a standard tension Evertune in drop c? Like, will the tension be too high, and I won't be able to bend normally as the strings are too tight??
No problem dude! I’m happy to help!
Playing High Tension Strings can be tricky.. yes there is the calculator but in my experience there may be unforeseeable issues such as it being super uncomfortable.
But an 11-50 does seem to be too wild. Something like 13’s + would be impossible. I would suggest “carefully” trying them. The issue that will tell you whether or not that tension will work is if you can get it in tune. Dont worry so much about the bending at that point. If it gets to the pitch you’re trying to tune too, you’ll then want to make sure to check your intonation, action, and fine tuning. Remember higher tension will effect all of these things. If all goes well, raise the tension to the Bend-Stop and you’re good!
Let us know how it goes!
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@@MadManMusic Thanks!
I have that same guitar! It’s a beast.
It is for sure!! 💪🏼
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Good detailed explanation. Only one thing I'm not sure I understand.
As we enter the threshold between zone 2 into zone 3, the 7th string may be tuned at open B for example. If this is off in pitch, how do we adjust it, or another example, how do we get it tuned to A for example. In other words, how do we vary the pitch of Zone 2, for example from B to A, or B to D?
Great question! You don’t want to “Fine Tune” at the Threshold of the Bend Stop. You want to detune or lower the tension using your tuning machine on the headstock a half a turn or so, then tune the string to B or even A using your 2.5mm Hex Key THEN tune it back up to the Bend Stop using the tuning machine again.
I have a video regarding “Tuning and Intonation” coming out this Saturday so if this explanation doesn’t help, Hopefully that one will!
Thanks for the question, I hope it helped!
Let us know!
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@@MadManMusic I think I understand what you're trying to say, but still may be a bit confused as tuning at the headstock will be done using the same turning action as done before. So I'm not sure how tension is gonna change at zone 2.
Btw, I'm very interested in purchasing E-II HORIZON NT-7 EVERTUNE, thank you for the tips on Evertune, you've cleared up, and put most of my concerns at ease.
I definitely won't miss your video on tuning to get a better understanding.
Great channel. Subscribed for sure!
Great to have you in the Community!
That Horizon will be a cool guitar for sure. I am guessing that will be your first experience with the EverTune. I may have an idea of where your confusion lies. On a guitar with an ET, You’re no longer “Tuning” using the tuning machines on the headstock. You will only use those to being the tension of the string into the correct “Tension Positions” known as Zone 1, 2, 3. All “tuning” is done in Zone 2 by using the included Hex Key Tool that will come with your guitar (2.5mm Hex). That tool is inserted directing into the String Saddle and that is where you’ll fine tune the Pitch of the string. (Or detune it for Drop Tunings).
The video will likely be a bit easier to follow but i assure you the process is not all that difficult. Once its done it will “basically” stay that way and then you’ll just use the tuning machines to make sure your tension is near the threshold of the bend stop.
I hope this is helping! If not feel free to keep asking questions until it makes sense for you. I’ll do my best to help you out!
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Heres a link to the next video. You can set a reminder for when its releasing. The first 30 mins or so after it releases there is a Live Chat. So we can all talk about Tuning and I can answer questions there also!
See ya then!
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@@MadManMusic I think I get you now. Just to see it in your coming premiere to understand how it is actually physically done. Can't wait! Thanks much for the help.
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Maybe I'm the one who missed a step, but I don't understand whether, once you've transitioned from zone 2 to zone 3 and retuned to enable bending, the guitar stays in tune or if it goes out of tune and needs readjustment, like a "regular" guitar. I mean, I perfectly understand the advantage of staying in tune in zone 2 for rhythm and chords, but for soloing, if zone 3 has the same "problems" as a normal bridge, I'm not sure it's for me.
So the idea is you set the tension of each string just below the threshold of Zone 2 and 3. This is where the “Bend Stop” exists.
You never set the guitar in Zone 3. Never. Its always in Zone 2, staying in tune.
BUT, because you’re just below the Bend Stop, when you add tension by Bending or adding Vibrato, you then hit the Bend Stop and the Bending / Vibrato occurs and it feels just as natural as any other guitar… then when you release the tension the string effortlessly goes back into Zone 2 and maintains it pitch / tuning.
I hope that makes sense!
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@@MadManMusic yes, this was clear to me. I'll try to rephrase the question in a simpler way: If I regularly do bending or vibrato and set the bridge in zone 2 (tuned) but at the edge of zone 3 so I can perform bending and vibrato, does the bridge need to be retuned frequently or does it remain in tune? (thank you for your super quick reply! )
@sismachine It stays in tune for “ever”.
By bending all you will do is “Loosen” the Tension over time reducing your ability to bend. But it will remain perfectly in tune.
So, when you pick up the guitar just check that your tension is set to the correct spot, and jam!
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@@MadManMusic got it. I'll do a test, maybe with a Les Paul sold directly on the Evertune website. My last Les Paul, despite my efforts (and those of the luthier), just wouldn't stay in tune. I know it's a common issue with Les Pauls in general, but tuning after every song had become frustrating. If I need help, I'll bother you again!
@sismachine buying directly from EverTune is cool because those guitars wouldn’t normally have an ET option. So you could get a very rare setup! Super cool!
And of course, feel free to ask questions!
I’m happy to help!
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Great vid but next time..take the music in the background out..so we can hear the guitar better
Yeah this was a time were I thought excessive BG Music was a good idea, I have since learned my lesson. Thanks for watching!
If you still need help with the EverTune this video might also be helpful... but it also has BG Music 🤷🏻♂️ ➡️ ruclips.net/video/mtDNH7PCIXM/видео.html
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If you set it up to bend, doesn't that defeat the purpose of the bridge? It seems like it would again have the possibility of going out of tune
Nope! Because when you set it to Bend you're still in Zone 2, where the pitch wont change, but once you add tension to the string by bending it will then hit the "Bend Stop" and more into Zone 3.
So unless you're adding extra tension, you're stay in Zone 2 and Stay in Tune!
Hope that helps!
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The truth is the Evertune bridge, makes the guitar a completely different instrument.
It needs to be played differently, it needs to be thought about differently.
Even when you approach the threshold of zone two correctly, subtle nuances are not capable, this is a very precise instrument, and when you go to bend the bend starts a little higher out of nowhere.
So in short, it feels different and sounds different but that doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing it means it’s something that just needs to be treated differently. I got one I’m going to keep it and I’m going to find creative new. Sounds with it even if they are super subtle .
Thanks for the comment.
Some things "setup -wise" need to be thought about differently... ie, not using the tuning pegs to actually tune the guitar but rather using the saddle mechanism... but the differences end there.
If anything, you play the guitar with 'much less' concern than you would a traditional guitar.
For instance, I know with certainty that my guitars are setup correctly... so I just pick up my guitars and play them.. I don't have to check anything. I know its in tune and I know that I'll be able to bend. And if I discover that one of my strings needs to be adjusted, I quickly reset the tension and boom, I'm good to go. It takes seconds and then I'm back to not thinking twice about it.
Nothing sounds different... These aren't installed on acoustic instrument, so the bridge has basically nothing to do with the sound from an amp. Thats just the pickups. The bridge it itself really only effects the feel and sustain. It has similar mechanics to a Floyd Rose so you'll have a similar feel.
So again, other than initial setup, if done correctly, the instrument should and will play like any other... only better because you have less to worry about.
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Cool concept, great explanation, not for me :)
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Screw those things, man. It's like fighting with one hand behind your back when it comes to solos. They're for strumming, arpeggios, or straight picking.
Nah, they play just like any other guitar when set up correctly!
Been touring with them for years. I’ll never go back!
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That's not from the start?
Hey! I dont understand the question.. ?
Informative video, but please get rid of the annoying background music.
I’m glad it was helpful. Unfortunately the video is already published and nothing can be done about the background music.
If you’re interested in further info, check out this video ➡️ EverTune Bridge - Pro-Tip Tutorial
ruclips.net/video/mtDNH7PCIXM/видео.html
Thanks for watching.
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This is cool and all, but I'd rather set up a knock off Floyd Rose. 😅
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too much drawback.. even when setup for bending its not consistent..
When setup correctly it plays / feels like any other guitar, accept better cuz it will just stay that way.
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if you're into bending then avoid evertune.
Or don't... cuz thats exactly what this video is about.
Please keep your useless negativity to yourself.
K thanks!
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no offense, just saying.@@MadManMusic
@ohkey2999 Say all you’d like. You’re just incorrect. 🤷🏻♂️
To speed things up and then talks for a few minutes, I have bad ADHD and the amount of showing to talking is super out of whack, "Crazies" 2:42 until you touch it, sorry not for this guy!