How do honing rods work?

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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025

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  • @rikkansi
    @rikkansi 4 года назад +74

    An Edge in the Kitchen is a great book. It taught me how to sharpen way back when and I definitely recommend it to anyone. Glad to see it getting some props.

  • @rorymoore4387
    @rorymoore4387 3 года назад +20

    As a butcher we would sharpen by stone maybe every second day but steel (honing rod) our knives every time we noticed significant resistance in cutting maybe every 20 minutes when working non stop. We would have people ask if we could sharpen their knives for them with the steel (honing rod) and explaining difference between edge beville and blade and correcting feathering (edge rolling over itself to one side) would always go over the head before we direct them to go to a life sharpener as stealing their knife wasn't going to give them the result they were after.
    Having so many knives every second day we would usually sacrifice a lunch break to get our knives stoned 😋 but it does make diceing slicing and boning alot easier as a result.

  • @khakicampbell6640
    @khakicampbell6640 3 года назад +20

    Great tip about the SOUND of the honing stroke! That's a good indicator, most people don't notice that. 👍

    • @mrsmith906
      @mrsmith906 3 года назад

      the sound also depends upon how you hold the tools in relation to your head and if you have even hearing.

    • @88KeysIdaho
      @88KeysIdaho Год назад +2

      Yeah- but we couldn't hear the SOUND of the honing stroke, because of the background music playing over the video. It would have been a good time to pause the music, doh!

  • @weijohnny9759
    @weijohnny9759 Год назад +19

    A friend gave me a tip a while back --- if you don't have a honing rod, use the bottom of a ceramic plate! I've been doing it for years and it seems to work well

    • @ctusser
      @ctusser 7 месяцев назад +1

      I like to do the hair test in front of customers at the carving table.

  • @asharperrazor
    @asharperrazor 4 года назад +273

    You're half correct. A polished steel honing rod does not remove any metal, but a fine cut rod does. Very similar to how a file works.

    • @demokraatti
      @demokraatti 4 года назад +32

      Yes those ridged steel rods eat the blade quite aggressively. Usually this causes problems since the rod is the most effective at the middle part of a blade and much less effective at the heel and tip area. Over time this can make the middle part wear so much that it stops making a contact with a cutting board. Also ceramic and diamond rods remove some steel from a blade. On the surface of a white ceramic rod dark traces of metal can be easily seen.

    • @2adamast
      @2adamast 4 года назад +5

      And maybe wrong because polished honing rods are also used to sharpen 'soft' metal edges

    • @ianwallace3192
      @ianwallace3192 3 года назад +18

      Most of this channel is him being half correct, coining ideas as his own (pickled onions, precooking pasta, Indian food), and shoving content into RUclips.

    • @asharperrazor
      @asharperrazor Год назад +2

      @Troll of Troll's Workshop That's what I said...

    • @combatbenyamin
      @combatbenyamin 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@ianwallace3192 How can someone be this lacking in critical comprehension 😂

  • @jfonsecaesilva
    @jfonsecaesilva 3 года назад +162

    It depends on the kind of honing rod you use.... The ones with grooves actually sharpen, the ones with diamond powder also and the ceramic ones like yours also sharpens! The steel ones without groves are the ones that does what you say on this video.

    • @draw-backproductions973
      @draw-backproductions973 3 года назад +9

      The steels that are rough do not sharpen it same with a polished steel the only steels that actually sharpen your knife are the diamond steels I’m a butcher/slaughter man so I’m pretty familiar with steels

    • @maxheadrom3088
      @maxheadrom3088 3 года назад +5

      I think even the smooth steel ones sharpen - anytime there's contact between two things (from cotton on glass to metal on metal) will remove material. I use a smooth steel rod that's harder than the the knife's steel. The effect he mentioned does happen in honing rods also and is probably the main thing there. High carbon steel can be sharpened with leather ribbons or balsa wood - like barbers used to do in the old times when rabbits had their beard done or even were barbers!

    • @jefffuehr366
      @jefffuehr366 3 года назад +1

      i got a honing rod with really thin lines running all the way down it ( all the way around the rod )
      is that for honing or sharpening?

    • @breamy31
      @breamy31 3 года назад +4

      @@draw-backproductions973 wrong bud i fillet fish for a living and all i use is a rough horn and a smooth horn to sharpen my knives

    • @nixon1234-e8n
      @nixon1234-e8n 3 года назад

      @@jefffuehr366 that's sharpening stone, from what i know honing rod is usually smooth and what it does is straighten the edge, and you can sub honing steel with a back of a plate that has a super smooth surface

  • @schlimanokobibi
    @schlimanokobibi 3 года назад +152

    "Honing is a non-destructive process"
    Tell that to my friend who kept slamming my knife into my honing rod and made some massive chips in the blade.

    • @Yuzuki1337
      @Yuzuki1337 3 года назад +15

      Well you can hardly call that honing, can ya? :D

    • @sebastiansmith806
      @sebastiansmith806 3 года назад +12

      That's worth bare knuckle boxing over

    • @rorymoore4387
      @rorymoore4387 3 года назад

      Damn has going to hard at wrong angle, sorry to hear bout your knives😟

    • @hinkhall5291
      @hinkhall5291 3 года назад +8

      Is that gay slang? 😂

    • @jackmclane1826
      @jackmclane1826 3 года назад +7

      This is why I have 3 different sets of knives.
      2 highly cherished knives kept in perfect condition, are only hand rinsed and stored in a box.
      One decent set for me and everyday use. Kept in good condition, sharpened regularly but will go through the dishwasher for time saving purposes.
      One normal set for my wife and friends that don't know or care for how to handle a knife.

  • @samhunt9380
    @samhunt9380 3 года назад +31

    As a slaughter man many years ago, I made my own steels, or as you call them, honing rods, from chainsaw files polished to a glass smooth finish.....the way we tested for sharpness was to drag the knife across your thumb nail, if it drags, it's sharp, if if slides over, it needs attention.....only used Victorinox boning and slicing knives....

    • @carlwhite9455
      @carlwhite9455 3 года назад

      Can you actually use a chain saw sharpener to hone a knife?? Thanks

    • @pp-bs5qz
      @pp-bs5qz 3 года назад +2

      @@carlwhite9455 wheres the face palm emoji.....................

    • @carlwhite9455
      @carlwhite9455 3 года назад

      @@pp-bs5qz lol

    • @ncsEsper
      @ncsEsper 2 года назад

      Dangerous too. Any worthwhile sharpening job would cut thru the nail.

    • @88KeysIdaho
      @88KeysIdaho Год назад

      @@ncsEsper Probably depends on the angle of the cut, no?

  • @tinman1955
    @tinman1955 4 года назад +16

    Try a white ceramic rod if you think they don't abrade metal. Some rods are smoother than others but my ceramic rod gets black with steel it ground off my knives. It definitely sharpens as well as hones. I'd say a steel is a metal forming tool. A ceramic rod or stone is a metal cutting tool as well as a forming tool.

  • @lordginger636
    @lordginger636 3 года назад +422

    "Honing doesnt actually sharpen"
    "After honing you'll notice your knife will be sharper"

    • @caolanmaher5907
      @caolanmaher5907 3 года назад +18

      It does remove some metal

    • @AlibifortheAfterlife
      @AlibifortheAfterlife 3 года назад +14

      @@caolanmaher5907 Ceramic and diamond rods do which is why I recommend against them. You're never gonna be as precise with a rod as you'd be with a whetstone so you run the risk of damaging your edge.

    • @sedorriku8021
      @sedorriku8021 3 года назад +13

      @@AlibifortheAfterlife its also prooven that traditional steeling remove metal, it is more a microbevel forming than actual sharpening. But if we consider sharpening as thinning material to an apex, we can say yes it sharpens the blade, while its indeed not sharpening in common sense. Also it is a common missconception that any steeling realign just the edge, than can happen at some steels but it is often not the case, instead the deflected or mushroomed par of the apex get scratched away and a microbevel is formed at the first microns of the edge, wich will increase as the process is repeated. This process also happens on normal honing steels not just on ceramic or diamond sharpening rods. We have to imagine that the apex is a very thin point, so just slight pressure on the rod will cause enourmous forces to the apex what causes deformation usually to a microbevel than anything else (as it is normally used at a bit higher angle than the sharpening angle).It also depends on the situation and is like always a bit more complex than expexted, for example: lets say a certain razoredge can be realigned by stropping, may the steel from kitchenknife woud lead in an edge and angle that the very apex woud rather break off due fatigue than bend back. Hardness, grain of the steel, sharpening angle and the deflection itself play a big role what really will happen.
      Ps: I think there is many ways to do something, but to be honest this is not how i woud steel a knife.

    • @blazzinrazzin
      @blazzinrazzin 3 года назад +5

      @@sedorriku8021 So many contradiction in this video and in the comments. Makes me think this video has good intention yet falls short of delivering a cohesive point. Aside from your grammar, this comment makes more sense than what he's saying in the video.

    • @sedorriku8021
      @sedorriku8021 3 года назад +6

      @@blazzinrazzin yes the grammar is horrible i know, but in my apologize its not my first or second language, thank you anyway :)

  • @jubalcalif9100
    @jubalcalif9100 7 дней назад

    Thanks! Knife sharpening looks like fun. Never a dull moment.

  • @eugene__eugene
    @eugene__eugene 3 года назад +37

    I had expected to hear the tip that I heard before at the end of this video... Before using the knife after honing it, wash it. Because you do not want any little pieces of steel that might have come loose to end up in the food you are cutting

    • @masondegaulle5731
      @masondegaulle5731 3 года назад +2

      It's not a thing to be honest, any super fine burrs it removes are so tiny they pose no risk whatsoever.

    • @krkrbbr
      @krkrbbr 3 года назад +9

      I would actually like extra iron content in my food thanks

    • @andredion9649
      @andredion9649 3 года назад +1

      @@masondegaulle5731 whos knows whats in those China knives

    • @ohnoitsu1
      @ohnoitsu1 3 года назад +1

      @@masondegaulle5731 Actually I wipe my knives off on a paper towel after honing on a diamond rod and there is definitely a residue left over very similar to that of the slurry you get from whetstone sharpening. Probably not the greatest thing to introduce to your food/diet.

    • @masondegaulle5731
      @masondegaulle5731 3 года назад

      @@ohnoitsu1 Of course a diamond rod is going to remove more material, still wouldn't cause you any problems to go through your digestive tract. Likely dissolve in your stomach and you'd pee out excess beyond what your body wants.

  • @TheTimeweaver
    @TheTimeweaver 2 года назад +31

    Actually, honing rods do sharpen knives, including the ribbed steel ones. There is a misconception that steeling does not remove metal, but simply 're-aligns the edge.' When you use a honing steel, you restore the apex. Electron microscope analysis (seen at 2,000 times magnification) revealed that this was achieved by the removal of steel, which creates a new micro-bevel and restores sharpness.

  • @Icyuzu
    @Icyuzu 3 года назад +72

    Not gonna lie I was shook when he rolled up his sleeves to test the knife 🤣

    • @istoriareiss
      @istoriareiss 4 месяца назад

      SAME I PANICKED FOR A MOMENT 😭 loll

  • @jerryjeremy4038
    @jerryjeremy4038 3 года назад

    From all the vids I watched, you're the only one who said that honing is not for sharpening, and you were correct. Thanks bro

    • @violetviolet888
      @violetviolet888 3 года назад +1

      Not entirely correct: it depends on the rod, "half correct. A polished steel honing rod does not remove any metal, but a fine cut rod does. Very similar to how a file works."-Leighton Tyau"Yes those ridged steel rods eat the blade quite aggressively. Usually this causes problems since the rod is the most effective at the middle part of a blade and much less effective at the heel and tip area. Over time this can make the middle part wear so much that it stops making a contact with a cutting board. Also ceramic and diamond rods remove some steel from a blade. On the surface of a white ceramic rod dark traces of metal can be easily seen."-demokraatti

  • @sarahb.6475
    @sarahb.6475 Месяц назад

    I just bought one of these rods and also those "bricks" to sharpen knives so had to watch this to learn how to use it! Thanks!

  • @abc6568
    @abc6568 4 года назад +154

    5:20 heck, for a second I thought he was gonna cut his skin

    • @SaintJimmySensFan
      @SaintJimmySensFan 4 года назад +20

      Remember kids, it’s down the street, not across the road!

    • @MusicByproduct
      @MusicByproduct 4 года назад +6

      I was raising an eyebrow at that too. "Alright so if you want to _really_ test how sharp your knife is..." : D
      Nice trick though, hadn't thought of that before.

    • @abc6568
      @abc6568 4 года назад +11

      @@MusicByproduct yeah if it can cut through your arm it should be able to cut through your steak

    • @lyrical7683
      @lyrical7683 4 года назад +1

      a bc same

    • @___xyz___
      @___xyz___ 3 года назад

      I've seen this done in practice. Pretty cool stuff. We got a good laugh that dinner.

  • @MaizeANDBlue1957
    @MaizeANDBlue1957 2 года назад +8

    *Ethan* ... Did you know that you'll get the correct angle if you hold your blade against the hone and the handle end at the same time? This is why Japanese hones have a smaller handle where it meets the hone. The angle is less.
    _Bonus Tip:_ If you're out and about, the top edge of your car window will work as a hone.

  • @chefv-dawhmedia
    @chefv-dawhmedia 5 лет назад +7

    I am pretty good with a honing rod, but I wish to improve my whetstone game overtime. Love the vids 👍👍

    • @EthanChlebowski
      @EthanChlebowski  5 лет назад +5

      My guide to whetstone video is coming out on Sunday!

  • @iza724
    @iza724 4 года назад +3

    Awesome vid and very informative for someone who is researching the art of sharpening knives.

    • @CoffeeAndPaul
      @CoffeeAndPaul Год назад +1

      There is a video on RUclips about a bartender in Japan who uses the same knife every day to cut & firm ice cubes. The knife he started out with is something like 20 Years old, & it's a fraction of its original size.

  • @splitshot71
    @splitshot71 4 года назад +162

    I prefer to run my blade down the rod while pulling in. that’s also wears the rod down evenly. Good vid

    • @fbnick9987
      @fbnick9987 4 года назад +3

      I agree, with reservations. (1) the steel will probably not wear anyway, they are very hard. (2) I see too many people (and this includes cooks and chefs!) trying to move the blade down the steel as they draw and end up not actually letting any more than a couple of inches of the blade contact the steel!

    • @sharpen-up
      @sharpen-up 4 года назад +3

      Exactly right. It's actually better for burr reduction as well to go down the rod, edge leading.

    • @mattburnett4185
      @mattburnett4185 3 года назад +8

      @@sharpen-up Agree,
      this Ethan guy doesn't know shit about sharpening,
      (or he just does it totally different from me)

    • @diji5071
      @diji5071 3 года назад +1

      That's what she said.

    • @Asdayasman
      @Asdayasman 3 года назад +1

      I prefer to run it down my wrists lmao end me

  • @bigmike6461
    @bigmike6461 4 года назад +4

    I use my thumb to get the angle. I have my knife in a pinch grip, I'll place the blade on the rod, then tilt the blade till my thumb knuckle touches the rod as well. Which gives me an angle around the 22 to 25 degrees. Then when I go to the other side, I use the knuckle of my pointer finger as a degree guide.

  • @WarMage
    @WarMage 4 года назад +65

    side note: a lot of western knives are coming in with 15 degree edges these days, including my favorite, the victorinox fibrox...

    • @triad6425
      @triad6425 4 года назад +1

      I LOVE my victorinox and I have Kramer

    • @mymai2792
      @mymai2792 4 года назад +5

      I love my Victorinox too...had it since 2007. I use it everyday & it holds an edge for a long time.
      Taught myself to sharpen 3 years ago with a Japanese 2sided whetstone.
      My knife only needs sharpening once every 6 months...& I hone it regularly.
      Even my uncle (Dad's bro) who's family have a hunting background - was impressed with my sharpening skills. He had the honour or cutting our N.Year roast lamb & said my Dad (who's passed away) would be proud. Brought a tear to my eye.

  • @someperson9695
    @someperson9695 Год назад

    Thank you soo much, I wanted to learn how to use my honing rod for a long while.

  • @jacktaylor6155
    @jacktaylor6155 4 года назад +1

    I love to watch you do that over and over and over and over (repeats 10 times)!

  • @RaabStephan
    @RaabStephan 2 года назад +1

    I have that same Mercer knife and it's honestly one of my favorites!

  • @richardsteinbergmakingknives
    @richardsteinbergmakingknives 2 года назад

    Nicely done Ethan. No wonder you have so many subs. You're videos are really well done.

  • @codysimpson70
    @codysimpson70 4 года назад +9

    I do boning for a living and hone my knife at least 50 times a day and sharpen it every 2-3 days, you only need to pull it back once on each side with decent pressure to re-align the edge, then using most of the steel, as light as possible once or twice on each side to get it sharp, the lighter your finishing steels are the sharper your knife will be

    • @SlyMaelstrom
      @SlyMaelstrom 4 года назад +3

      Why does making porn dull your knives?

    • @codysimpson70
      @codysimpson70 4 года назад +1

      @@SlyMaelstrom hahaha just does mate

    • @deasttn
      @deasttn 4 года назад

      @@SlyMaelstrom because over time things get dull

    • @pp-bs5qz
      @pp-bs5qz 3 года назад

      sounds easy but I bet it takes a heck of a lot of practice to get it flowing right.

  • @zp944
    @zp944 3 года назад +1

    I used to manage a restaurant and I have shown your video at least ten times to the employees there because I see them trying to grind the knives on the rod multiple times a day.
    I'd hear them going crazy for 3 minutes at a time and try and explain to them that it's NOT for sharpening. I tried explaining the process to them by folding the edge of a piece of paper, then straightening it out with my hand to demonstrate what the rod does.
    Nothing I did ever got the point across, not even this video. I even saw them using the backs of other knives to imitate the action of honing (but by sawing back and forth, not even caring about angle).
    It was the most stressful time of my life. They even bought an electric sharpener behind my back and used that to sharpen the knives twice a day. Quickly, they wore them all down far past the tempered part and the knives were useless. I bought them a quality set of knives (the same ones I use at home) and again, within two or three months they were destroyed.
    I quit shortly after.

  • @Joe_for_real
    @Joe_for_real 10 месяцев назад

    I just use some Lansky sharpeners. Gets to 17 degrees and it pretty easy once you get a knack for it. As far as the honing steel goes; I was unsure what it's purpose was so I looked this up and enjoyed the video. Thanks Ethan.

    • @Joe_for_real
      @Joe_for_real 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@torTxoFognaTuluZ I enjoyed the video because Ethan is an entertaining individual. Your self-acclaimed critical thinking ability didn't give you the social skills to know when to shut your freaking mouth.

    • @majinkakashi20
      @majinkakashi20 9 месяцев назад

      Rofl. dude, thats funny.

  • @ProfClaudeBalls
    @ProfClaudeBalls 2 года назад +3

    I'd like to see some microscopic photos of the edge, before during and after.

  • @Fygee
    @Fygee 28 дней назад

    Regarding the angles, make sure you’re doing 15 degrees for Japanese knives as a general practice and not 20.
    Also, check out the ceramic rods from Knifewear. The handle has 15 and 20 degree sides on the flare as a guide to help you get the angle right.

  • @brianfreland9065
    @brianfreland9065 9 месяцев назад +36

    as a chef, thats absolutely not how you use a rod. youre right about the angle but you dont pull the knife straight back towards you, you want to start with the heel of the blade at the top of the rod, the slide down and back til the tip of the blade meets the end or bottom of the rod. not only is it much better for the knife but its exponentially better for the rod too because youre not just wearing out one spot making the rod useless for long pulls. heel top to tip bottom...thats the correct way to use a rod...takes much less strokes as well and its much better for all the materials involved

    • @jbekkers11
      @jbekkers11 9 месяцев назад +4

      100% Spot on.

    • @shearerhairline
      @shearerhairline 14 дней назад

      Also you want to match the micro serrations created when sharpened off a stone. Pulling it straight back removes these which you don't really want to do.

  • @jeffwalker9122
    @jeffwalker9122 3 года назад +2

    Been a pro MeatCutter since 1995. I have and use my Henkels diamond steel that I bought the year I started every day. Never tried a ceramic one..

  • @brgodding1959
    @brgodding1959 Год назад

    That’s crazy. All this time I thought that was a knife sharpener not a honing rod. Thank you for clearing that up for me.

  • @Madkent94
    @Madkent94 4 года назад +31

    Wow some people in the comments are so pedantic. Everything he said is 100% correct. Technically a ceramic rod will remove material from the blade but its such an unbelievably tiny amount that its not worth even thinking about. You can't take a totally blunt knife and put an edge on it with a ceramic rod. A ceramic rod will straighten and refine a damaged edge just like a honing steel will only with the added benefit of polishing the edge too which works great on Japanese knives too (which honing steels do not mix well with) diamond rods are the ones which are very aggressive, will remove a lot of material and can be used to actually sharpen a blunt knife.
    Honing steel, ceramic rod and diamond rod. Three very different things which people confuse together and argue over constantly

    • @mstandenberg1421
      @mstandenberg1421 4 года назад

      It’s just technique leveraging hardness versus relative hardness. Everything else is pretty much ignoring very basic physics.

  • @Matpermad
    @Matpermad 4 года назад +2

    Loved it. Nice vid bud

    • @Ron4885
      @Ron4885 4 года назад

      Very nice shirt too. (just sayin')

  • @MrZnarffy
    @MrZnarffy 3 года назад +1

    I worked in an abbatoir for a while, and yes, honing your knives was done OFTEN.. like between every cow... and sharpened them maybe once a day...Doing it that often it almost becomes a reflex, and since then my knives at home stay sharp. :)

    • @kelainefes
      @kelainefes 3 года назад

      I worked as a meat carver some time ago, on Saturdays I would go through 4 knives from 11:30AM to 3PM.
      The amounts of wet salt beef and pastrami I would cut... I mean I think it was at least 8 full briskets LOL.

  • @trevorsherwood4324
    @trevorsherwood4324 2 года назад

    Awesome and informative video as usual. My stomach turned when you tested the knife sharpness on your arm though

  • @chefpanda4187
    @chefpanda4187 2 года назад

    Thank you a thousand times! Been trying to tell rookie cooks for years!

  • @jamesdearham3056
    @jamesdearham3056 4 года назад +9

    would love to see someone discuss a steel vs a strop

    • @mrsmith906
      @mrsmith906 3 года назад

      A steel will re-profile the edge when turned over as the video shows along with removing burrs, this does remove metal. A strop is for fine reprofiling and removing striations for the ultimate edge and that IS for when you want to shave hairs off skin.

    • @jamesdearham3056
      @jamesdearham3056 3 года назад

      @@mrsmith906 I thought a steal does not remove metal unless it was diamond coated. I can easily shave with my knives after a few passes with my steel. assuming of course it has been sharpened in the last month. I use a cheep 5$ oil stone from the hardware store for sharpening. my knives see heavy use as im a chef. i always mock tje youngins with their 100$ water stones and dull ass knives.

  • @jonkirkwood469
    @jonkirkwood469 Год назад +1

    The steel (hone) is the most valuable knife maintenance tool in the kitchen. I watched the butchers when I worked at a grocery store. Those guys made so many cuts each day, they couldn't afford to have dull blades.

  • @wessonliam7423
    @wessonliam7423 4 года назад +1

    I like the triangle ceramic honing rods.
    Use pointy bit of triangle to remove material in 2 strokes
    Then use flat side of triangle to straighten V

  • @etherdog
    @etherdog 5 лет назад +2

    Solid as always, E! Whenever I pick up a knife I hone it for a few stroke before each use--it is a habit, and I do a little touch up sharpening on an 8000 grit Norton stone on Dec 25 every year. I have a Henckels 8" chef's knife (I bought it in 1990) that I use for almost everything. It is really solid, comfortable grip for my hand and the steel is pretty decent quality. My happiest day in the kitchen was taking the bevel from 22 degrees down to 12--it made a world of difference in my cuts. Now I just have to grind down the bolster.

    • @EthanChlebowski
      @EthanChlebowski  5 лет назад

      Your story goes to show knives can last a really long time if sharpened and maintained well!
      Getting a sharper cutting angle is an absolute game changer. It's amazing how well it cuts.

    • @tyleringle268
      @tyleringle268 3 года назад

      @@EthanChlebowski Thanks for the video it really helps and makes since I have a okc3s bayonet on one side the edge is different than the other after sharpening did I mess my edge up?

  • @bleutitanium6513
    @bleutitanium6513 4 года назад +11

    Great tips ! Well done. .. Thanks for this video! We all need good Sharp Knives !!

  • @suivzmoi
    @suivzmoi 4 года назад +5

    i like how you pronounce short 'u's as long 'o's. pull becomes pool, full becomes fool. it's very unique, i wonder if it's a regional thing 2:57 3:03 3:43

  • @nmills5367
    @nmills5367 4 года назад

    Watched a couple of your videos and they're fantastic. You got yourself a sub.

  • @Cypeq
    @Cypeq 3 года назад

    I have crappy soft steel knife that I actually sharpened on my steel honing rod, it is abrasive it will sharpen but depending on the steel of your knife, it's minimal effect.
    Although some chefs, hone their knives very often, and it allows them to keep an edge on the knife for months. This kind of minimal alignment connected with frequency of doing it really protects from larger damage and true dulling of the knife that honing can't deal with.

  • @shadowblood95
    @shadowblood95 3 года назад

    Had a 4lb ceramic hone rod. It was a gift from a sword enthusiast friend. Man I need to find that.

  • @Bear0280
    @Bear0280 Год назад

    Ethan thanks heaps for taking the time to show us RUclipsrs this method Love your work Mate✌🏼Out🤠

  • @gabbyhayes7788
    @gabbyhayes7788 4 года назад +14

    A note about ceramic honing rods. If you drop them they can break. They're awesome at their job but be careful. If you have butterfingers, bet a steel rod.

  • @Rink03
    @Rink03 3 года назад +3

    I have a very old honing rod, its vintage, always wondered what it was and what it was supposed to do.

  • @gee3883
    @gee3883 Год назад

    I never knew the rod was just for realignment, cheers.

  • @withexpectancy5818
    @withexpectancy5818 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much for the demonstration. Very helpful video😊

  • @glennevitt5250
    @glennevitt5250 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for this information and Great Video

  • @dinnersandbowls4324
    @dinnersandbowls4324 5 лет назад +3

    I hate when people think that honing rods sharpen knives! Great video man as always!

    • @EthanChlebowski
      @EthanChlebowski  5 лет назад

      Hopefully, this video helps people understand the difference! Glad you enjoyed.

    • @main2333
      @main2333 5 лет назад +1

      So it don’t sharpen? I am watching a knife being sharpened. Sorry. Got distracted by mean trolls calling names. I will rewatch.
      Ok got it. It realigns after a wet stone that sharpens

    • @JC-fj7oo
      @JC-fj7oo 4 года назад +3

      scienceofsharp.com/2018/08/22/what-does-steeling-do-part-1/ Under a microscope you can see that a honing rod, even smooth rods do remove a good bit of metal and change the edge geometry. Also ceramic hones are usually around 2000 grit and diamond steels are around 800 grit so I replaced all my sharpening stones with rods. If I get blade damage that can't be fixed with 800 grit I'm probably just getting a new knife.

    • @violetviolet888
      @violetviolet888 3 года назад +1

      It depends on the rod. A number of "sharpening steels" are actually honing rods, and a number of "honing rods" are actually sharpening steels. Is the rod as hard or harder than the blade? A polished steel honing rod does not remove any metal, but a fine cut rod does. Very similar to how a file works."-Leighton Tyau "Yes those ridged steel rods eat the blade quite aggressively. Usually this causes problems since the rod is the most effective at the middle part of a blade and much less effective at the heel and tip area. Over time this can make the middle part wear so much that it stops making a contact with a cutting board. Also ceramic and diamond rods remove some steel from a blade. On the surface of a white ceramic rod dark traces of metal can be easily seen."-demokraatti

  • @wildrice1971
    @wildrice1971 3 месяца назад

    Very helpful, thank you!

  • @asthmaticrhino
    @asthmaticrhino 4 года назад +1

    I typically don't use homing rods, I use a leather strop. Same concept, just more what I'm used to. It does have some abrasive so it does function more like a ceramic honing rod

    • @kelainefes
      @kelainefes 3 года назад

      The advantage of a honing rod would be that it can be quickly used while you work, you don't need to clean the blade or the rod other than wiping them with a paper towel and sanitizer,
      while a strop would absorb liquids if the blade hasn't been cleaned properly before use.

  • @Fliegercantfly
    @Fliegercantfly 4 года назад

    Just saw the caption and picture for this video. Instantly subscribed.

  • @KingKhudd
    @KingKhudd 3 года назад

    A video I didn't know I needed

  • @Jafmanz
    @Jafmanz 3 года назад

    Hone your knife then wipe the edge the correct way on a paper towel. That grey residue is metal. Honing removes material. Yours truly a chef.

  • @sagarjigar
    @sagarjigar 4 года назад

    Woww!! What an educational video. You are aweosme dude.

  • @ToddSloanIAAN
    @ToddSloanIAAN Год назад +1

    3:23 starts off loud and then get softer and softer and further away and further away and softer and quietly done.

  • @youknowvin
    @youknowvin Год назад +2

    Why are you only using about 1 inch of the honing rod? They are long for a reason, Wusthof, et al state "Gently pull the knife towards you while gliding it downwards" or words to that effect.

  • @tukicat1399
    @tukicat1399 4 года назад +41

    I would disagree that the honing knife does not remove the edge. My grandfather used his on one knife until the blade wore away..

    • @slatetab
      @slatetab 3 года назад +1

      It was probably a fine cut steel rod then, this video is talking about ceramic and polished steel

    • @OwlskiTV
      @OwlskiTV 3 года назад

      @@slatetab Ceramic also removes steel...

  • @CpuWaiy
    @CpuWaiy 3 года назад +2

    Ethan, I tried the honing method in this video and immediately proceeded to cut my finger(no worries, just a little). Thanks for the video!

  • @KenSexe67
    @KenSexe67 4 года назад +2

    This is a great video! I learned a lot about honing and sharpening that I did not know before. Thanks for sharing!

  • @aslob9321
    @aslob9321 3 года назад

    It does help to strop on leather after honing. Try it!

  • @paulsalyers4421
    @paulsalyers4421 4 года назад +4

    Looking through a lot of high quality kitchen knives today on a cutlery website. Most brands (western and Japanese) are coming in at 15 degrees (give or take 1-2 degrees). I think I saw one knife that was over 20 degrees. I’ve never seen anyone use a honing rod the way it’s done in this video.. strange. It’s important to talk about Rockwell hardness rating with this topic as your rod must be harder than your knife, or OT won’t work.

    • @alexbeedie6940
      @alexbeedie6940 3 года назад +3

      I'm a knife maker 20 to 25 degrees is a wood carving knife, and ceramic is harder than all steels no matter what the Rockwell hardness

    • @racerdude7149
      @racerdude7149 3 года назад +1

      Well that’s because he doesn’t know what he is doing…if I let this guy use my bench grinder I’m sure he would wear a groove dead center of my wheel😤

    • @Bob_Adkins
      @Bob_Adkins Год назад

      Not quite true. A soft sharpening steel can easily straighten up the burr on a hard knife blade. A sharpening steel is not meant for removing metal, just re-forming it. A true honing rod is made from ceramic or hard steel with a texture that will remove steel from the edge nd actually sharpen it.

  • @Alacard0malley
    @Alacard0malley 3 года назад +20

    They realign micro serrations on the edge so they're all straight and cut in the same direction. Saved you 7 mins.

    • @theylive8200
      @theylive8200 3 года назад

      Finally someone who knows what they're talking about.

    • @BoshBargnani
      @BoshBargnani 3 года назад

      He explains that in the first minute.

    • @Alacard0malley
      @Alacard0malley 3 года назад

      @@BoshBargnani saved you 55 seconds 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @nilofido411
    @nilofido411 3 года назад

    I have had a similar type of knife for almost 30 years, using it at home almost everyday, sharped every few years and homing every few days.... I have lost count of how many people cut themselves with it 😱😱😱

    • @racerdude7149
      @racerdude7149 3 года назад

      Lol more cuts and injuries happen with a dull blade,,, perhaps it’s not sharp enough lol

  • @venkateshkesav2514
    @venkateshkesav2514 4 года назад +1

    Useful info.. Thank you, Brother...

  • @jackh577
    @jackh577 4 года назад +1

    I also have a Mercer chefs knife. Great bang for the buck!

  • @markmui
    @markmui 4 года назад +9

    For years I went down the rabbit hole with whetstones, honing rods, straps, etc. What’s cheaper, faster and sharper than all these things is a 30x1” belt sander ($50) with medium and super fine belts. You can sharpen a knife to a razor’s edge in exactly 10 passes and under 1 min.

    • @markmark2961
      @markmark2961 3 года назад +2

      And if you heat it up, go for the nearest store to buy a new knife XD I will stay with my stones, can do the same trick what you mentioned without a bulky equipment or the danger to inhale metal particles and under half a minute. Also you have ot buy belts and maintain the machine, but only the buying price fit to my stone set, everything else you overspend. What is not an argument, is the easyness. Easier to maintain angle, if you couldnt properly do it by hand even after practice.

    • @desertrainfrog1691
      @desertrainfrog1691 3 года назад +1

      That's the dumbest way to sharpen a knife.

    • @ncsEsper
      @ncsEsper 2 года назад

      A belt sander?!?!? You’re joking or flat out uninformed. Btw, Mr. Rabbithole, it’s a strop not a strap. I’ll say you’re uninformed and don’t pay too much attention to detail.

  • @OwlskiTV
    @OwlskiTV 3 года назад

    The amount of confusion such a video can make is astonishing.
    As some already pointed out; There are different types of honing rods. Some are built with diamond or abrasive material that actually will remove steel off the blade and sharpen a knife, whilst others are more finer and realign and smoothen out the edge, similar to what strops do.
    So to say "honing rods don't remove metal" is sorta a misguided answer, as it's only partially true and dependent on what honing rods we're talking about.

  • @marianadavila323
    @marianadavila323 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for this

  • @CrazeyHaze
    @CrazeyHaze 4 года назад +1

    I say this to coworkers at the restaurant I work at and just get a blank stare of confusion back at me. Siiiiigh.

  • @johnking3863
    @johnking3863 4 года назад +5

    use a good sharpening steel rather than a honing rod. You can remove metal to sharpen or hone depending on the pressure you apply. Its worked for me over the last 35 years.

  • @FRANKKKKYYYY
    @FRANKKKKYYYY Год назад

    Hello Ethan! My name is Frank and i am from the very North part of the Province of Québec Canada! I realy enjoyed watching your video and anxious to see more of them. I have been sharpening for a little while , since hunting, fiching and traping, are very strong here, there are a lots of knifes and axes etc... to be sharp! This became my hobby 3 years ago when i took my retirement from the special rescues Forces as an superior officer all over my country! I had a good budget so i well equiped my self and lately gor the Work Ssharp Ken Onion Edition to my collection of tools! I have all kind of Rods made of ceramic i love to finish my jobs with it just before stroping 4000 and make almost a brand new blade! Sory for my story but my question is *Can you shar^cerrated knifes with a ceramic rod? Like i said i hv oval, round, triangular etc... ceramic rods and after seing a video with a triangular ceramic rod sharpening a bread knifs and a pochet serrated knifes! What is you opinion or would you have a suggestion for me* P.S. If you also have a video or a advice of how to sharp scissors feel free :) Thanks in advance and keep going ! Frank P.S. Sorry for my rnglish writing i am french but i do my best! :)

  • @AnalystAndy
    @AnalystAndy 4 года назад +11

    There are professional chefs who don't use anything but honing rods to keep their knife sharp during the entire lifetime of the knife.

  • @marka4891
    @marka4891 4 года назад +29

    OH GOD! I spent the better part of 20 years trying to get my father to understand that...

    • @AC-bg4cs
      @AC-bg4cs 3 года назад

      20 years? İ'm sorry but your father is incredibly slow.

    • @marka4891
      @marka4891 3 года назад

      @@AC-bg4cs No, he just refused to listen and I finally just gave up.

  • @obsidianwing
    @obsidianwing 2 года назад

    i have a ceramic clay honing rod , its a bit gritty works perfectly

  • @livintolearn7053
    @livintolearn7053 Год назад +2

    Idk man, I ain't got the balls to do the hair shaving test xD

  • @stillalive--
    @stillalive-- 4 года назад +48

    "use the whole length of the knife"... And the rod too!

    • @deasttn
      @deasttn 4 года назад +3

      Just the tip. Just the tip

  • @markir9
    @markir9 4 года назад +1

    Every 'honing' rod I've ever seen in a shop has ridges on it - which makes it remove metal! In particular you can see the removed metal on the lighter coloured ceramic rods...

    • @markir9
      @markir9 4 года назад

      However, I believe it is possible to find a 'honing rod' that has no ridges (online) - that would be interesting to try out (and see if it really removes no metal).

    • @nine1690
      @nine1690 4 года назад

      Those are a different kind of rod, closer to a file. Of course you'd fine removed metal on ceramic rods, they remove metal! He explained this in the video.

    • @markir9
      @markir9 4 года назад

      @@nine1690 Indeed there are - *but* the 'non ridged' ones are really hard to find. Whether they be ceramic or metal the 'ridged' ones are a) typically all you find in shops and b) we are still out on the 'jury' about whether the smooth ones do *not* remove metal. So to be tested!

    • @smievil
      @smievil 3 года назад +1

      f.dick has a blue oval that i think is completely smooth
      every other rod i've seen is either some amount of coarseness or ridges
      all local ones seem to be rebranded chinese with ridges, anything online seem a bit pricier than i'd want though.

  • @92keys524
    @92keys524 3 года назад

    Thank you. I had no idea.

  • @Galebreth
    @Galebreth 3 года назад

    Subbed! Thanks for a good vid

  • @robertpearson8798
    @robertpearson8798 4 года назад +6

    "It leaves an edge that cuts better but is not truly the edge that you want". Isn't an edge that cuts better the goal?

    • @chrisfrench9257
      @chrisfrench9257 4 года назад

      He's saying that its not as optimal as the description he's trying to explain. Yes, cutting better is the goal and the ideal edge you are looking for should cut better than the edge your comment is referring to.

    • @mattburnett4185
      @mattburnett4185 3 года назад

      honing rod = fast, temporary burr alignment for immediate use (slicing food)
      stone = slow, regrinding the entire blade's edge and resetting it permanently

  • @RichDoes..
    @RichDoes.. Год назад

    as a chef I was chopping at my station as a butcher delivered, I enquired about cost re whole pieces of meat vs ready butchered, he told me chefs struggle as they don't have sharp enough knives. I shaved my forearm with the knife I was using.... he looked pretty uncomfortable lol

  • @shadowdragoon80
    @shadowdragoon80 3 года назад

    what is the safety consideration when using this method of sharpening?

  • @manny-perez
    @manny-perez 5 лет назад +1

    As usual great video good friend!

  • @basstremor
    @basstremor 3 года назад +20

    Hey Ethan--I like your content. But as a semi-professional knife sharpener and enthusiast seeing this video for the first time... the information presented is incorrect.
    Would you be willing to revisit this topic? Because "not removing material" is actually actually the common misconception. The "realignment" of the edge happens through abrasion and not just the rod pushing steel back into place.
    A typical honing rod will absolutely remove metal as they are essentially steel files. The reason why I also know first hand is because I have fixed dozens of knives with recurves in the edge profile. These issues happened because people would hone the knife with a honing rod unevenly, leaving the heel untouched by the rod and it ends up taller than the rest of the knife. This can literally only happen because the honing rod removes metal.
    As well, you can also observe the honing rod removing metal by wiping down the rods after use on knives. The grey swarf you see isn't the rod--it's the steel from the knife. A honing rod is a sharpening implement--just one that ONLY touches the apex and not the whole bevel (when used correctly).

    • @evansimon8913
      @evansimon8913 2 года назад

      If I may say, I think it depends on the homing rod. I have one for work and school that doesn’t remove anything, as seen when I wipe the knife off and don’t see any metal. However, I’ve seen exactly what you’re saying on the steel I have at home: I wipe the knife off and see tiny shavings on the towel. Some rods have a clearly abrasive surface that you can feel with your fingers, but not all of them. And I think that’s what sets different steels apart. Some of them are designed to file, rather than just straighten.

  • @MbisonBalrog
    @MbisonBalrog 3 года назад +1

    Most people think honing is sharpening it. They not aware sharpening requires removing metal.

  • @cerenademe9433
    @cerenademe9433 4 года назад +1

    Can you use a ceramic honing rod to hone a ceramic knife?

  • @PernillaArtistic
    @PernillaArtistic 3 года назад

    Thanks for sharing, I use one but wasn’t sure I did it correctly or if my man did it correctly??

  • @woodamck
    @woodamck 3 года назад

    RUclips algorithm got it right this mornin

  • @monaeortiz5927
    @monaeortiz5927 4 года назад +3

    If we use the use the honing rod about 1 a week generally, how often would you suggest a sharpening with the wet stone ? About once a month?

    • @uhnutherdude
      @uhnutherdude 4 года назад

      Monae Ortiz Many knife sharpeners recommend sharpening your knife on a whetstone once every two weeks to once a month depending on how often you use your knife and what you use it for.

  • @sevencheesepizza3660
    @sevencheesepizza3660 3 года назад

    If you go to the index of the website scienceofsharp there will be a section "what does steeling do", doing away with the common misconception of realignment of the edge (together with electron microscope pictures of edges before/after steeling).

    • @mrsmith906
      @mrsmith906 3 года назад

      That author is 'doing away' with it for himself but he is perhaps inexperienced enough to have misguided himself. 33 years experience with knives has shown me that a steel can indeed realign a turned-over edge. It can then also turn it over to the other side. A very scientific presentation but that does not mean it is totally factual.

  • @racerdude7149
    @racerdude7149 3 года назад +2

    For all you viewers out there… this guy is using his honing rod with improper technique…
    Watch any other video and you will see how to properly use a honing rod. You want the whole length of the knife to come in contact with the whole length of the rod, and you should use more of a swiping motion as if you’re trying to slice off a long piece of honing rod… If you do decide to use the technique shown in this video, you will wear out your hone in the center over time ruining it.

  • @danielwilliams8183
    @danielwilliams8183 3 года назад +29

    I had to hone all the knives in the house and now I look like a naked mole rat.