When JP said "You are no longer under law" he didn't qualify what that means .. His preaching is shady & contradicting .. No longer under law means you are not saved by obeying the commandments or the 10 commandments or moral law is no longer relevant for the believer ? Then when his critics questioned him he comes out with new statements on the website .. Very shady & deceptive .One moment say this, another moment say that ..
When Joseph Prince says that you need to 'act healed', at the same time he knows that he need to 'act anointed' or 'act God' too. ruclips.net/video/YrAPpK4IVac/видео.html I will tell him, There is really plenty of 'acting' in this church. However, do you think you need to 'act'? When Jesus went into the temple and rebuked them for making it a den of thieves, He was angry. However, do you think He should now feel happy because he is seeing a 'church' that is full of grace .. and also full of 'acting' ? Mar 11:14-17 KJV .. and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves; (16) And would not suffer that any man should carry any vessel through the temple. (17) And he taught, saying unto them, Is it not written, My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves. By the way, have you worked as a Human Resource professional before? Do you know that HR interviewers will never employ someone who lies on his *RESUME* ? Once they found out that there is a single trace of lying on the resume, they will tell you to go home and wait. So, the advice is: Be honest about what you write in the resume even if you have to state and confess that you have criminal records or bad records. They will still consider to employ you when you show honesty and repentance of what you did in the past. This is how I would decide whether I should trust my employees also (by those HR standards). Now, if God is your 'employer' and you were His servant or pastor, will He lower down His standards for you? Of course, many will argue that He is merciful and they are under grace and therefore there is no more standards for them to fulfil. However, I believe Jesus has set His standards for all His servants and disciples even though we are under grace. I believe that He has more mercy than the HR professionals too. However, when it comes to how we should do and teach the *WORD OF GOD,* there is no compromise. So, I find that it is hard for God to use a servant or 'employee' who is a liar and double-talker. If a pastor is a person who cannot be honest with God's word, he is just like someone who cannot be honest with his resume too. He would produce all kinds of fake certificates or diplomas and even cheat to get good favor from his boss or supervisors even though he knows that it is not right.
If anyone getting visions of JP visiting them in their dreams, they should completely stop hearing him and seek for deliverance soonest possible. Don't play this guy level of spirit. He is pure demonic. Simple reason. He has denied the Father God and holiness. It's only about Jesus and unlimited Grace for today and also tomorrow which is already forgiven. To the new creatures out there, if you are reading this. This theology is not biblical. Read the book of Romans on your own. Be Blessed. Shalom!
*There is a saying, "'Fake it till you make it"* *"Before a man can bind the enemy, he must know there is nothing binding him. Before God could bring me to this place of working of miracles, He had to break me a thousand times. Until God has mowed you down, you will never have this compassion for others" - Smith Wigglesworth (1859-1947)* *Gal.6:7 - 'Do not be deceived. God is NOT MOCKED; {ERV: If you think you can fool God, you are only fooling yourselves; Remedy Bible: Don’t delude yourselves: God cannot be tricked or fooled} for WHATEVER A MAN SOWS, THAT SHALL HE ALSO REAP.'*
Well said! I once asked a close friend and business associate of many years on what he thinks of JP-without telling him who is JP -....after looking and listening to a short clip i given him, his immediate instinctive reply was :" this fellow cannot be trusted". Sometimes worldly people can recognised a fake or false preacher instinctively better than most church goers who dont study the bible.
01:11 that was the same thing i thought of when Gabriel read the testimony. Given that NCC attendees always can't wait to showcase how blessed they were by GOD. It was extremely unusual for that particular "someone" not to be excited and want to share the healing miracle INSTANTLY and IMMEDIATELY!!! Unless the so called testimony is SCRIPTED. One way NCC can bend this thing around is to claim that the "someone" did not attend the first service where JP preached live, but attended the taped service. Then NCC can boast that the anointing of JP and healing power of GOD is not limited by time and space.
For those who testified they received their healing after sometime and not instantly or shortly, it can be because of the prayers of many others like their leaders, friends, family and their own prayers. So JP should not take credit for the prayers of others. Only if the healing is manifested in that service, can he claims and take credit. After all there are still miracle meetings still happening elsewhere and healing is instant and glory given to God
Only Jesus should be thanked and glorified in all our healings and testimonies. Something wrong when a pastor demands to be thanked and glorified as well. This is typical of a cult leader. Jesus doesn't share His glory with any man
JP has used God and the Holy Spirit in vain many times. Read what happens next: Mathew 24:24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. Galatians 1：6-9 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. 2 Timothy 3:5 Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. Titus 1:16 They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work. 2 Peter 2-3 And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
JP reminds me of the Cult leader Rajneesh in Oregon US. I read somewhere in one of the blog that JP was summoned in Singapore court few years ago. After that no news came out. Somebody should dig that info and find out what actual had happened. We will get some clarity. Atleast the new creatures will get some truth and be saved.
When u spend many hours bowling, u definitely going to get ache.. that kind of stuff dont need healing my fren! Anyway that young man said he felt the chill n said he felt abit better...he didn't said heal...but JP pressured him by asking "better or heal"...so the young man get hint...so he said HEAL...this is not genuine healing...when Jesus n his disciples heal they heal 100% not abit not partially not "you will get better by the day"!!!
Where is the person that is being healed? Can he or she come forward to give the testimony? Why is Joseph Prince giving the testimony? He is desperately looking for an honor for himself. Joseph Prince said "declare healed even though there is pain". It is like declaring healed when you still couldn't walk, still laying sick in bed, etc., what the crap is he talking about? I mean, healed is healed, not with some pain remaining.
Still have abit of pain...isnt healing my dear!! No where in the bible u some healing leaving that person still feeling abit of pain or still cant walk 100% ,etc. JP using pressure to get people to say what he want them to say...
When JP said "You are no longer under law" he didn't qualify what that means .. His preaching is shady & contradicting .. No longer under law means you are not saved by obeying the commandments or the 10 commandments or moral law is no longer relevant for the believer ? Then when his critics questioned him he comes out with new statements on the website .. Very shady & deceptive .One moment say this, another moment say that ..
I attended his church for 3 years before I quit going...
When Joseph Prince says that you need to 'act healed', at the same time he knows that he need to 'act anointed' or 'act God' too. ruclips.net/video/YrAPpK4IVac/видео.html I will tell him, There is really plenty of 'acting' in this church. However, do you think you need to 'act'? When Jesus went into the temple and rebuked them for making it a den of thieves, He was angry. However, do you think He should now feel happy because he is seeing a 'church' that is full of grace .. and also full of 'acting' ?
Mar 11:14-17 KJV .. and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves; (16) And would not suffer that any man should carry any vessel through the temple. (17) And he taught, saying unto them, Is it not written, My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves.
By the way, have you worked as a Human Resource professional before? Do you know that HR interviewers will never employ someone who lies on his *RESUME* ? Once they found out that there is a single trace of lying on the resume, they will tell you to go home and wait. So, the advice is: Be honest about what you write in the resume even if you have to state and confess that you have criminal records or bad records. They will still consider to employ you when you show honesty and repentance of what you did in the past. This is how I would decide whether I should trust my employees also (by those HR standards).
Now, if God is your 'employer' and you were His servant or pastor, will He lower down His standards for you? Of course, many will argue that He is merciful and they are under grace and therefore there is no more standards for them to fulfil. However, I believe Jesus has set His standards for all His servants and disciples even though we are under grace. I believe that He has more mercy than the HR professionals too. However, when it comes to how we should do and teach the *WORD OF GOD,* there is no compromise. So, I find that it is hard for God to use a servant or 'employee' who is a liar and double-talker. If a pastor is a person who cannot be honest with God's word, he is just like someone who cannot be honest with his resume too. He would produce all kinds of fake certificates or diplomas and even cheat to get good favor from his boss or supervisors even though he knows that it is not right.
Oh! Once again its jp with his lies, heresies . I don't even like to hear his voice. He is testifying other Jesus.
If anyone getting visions of JP visiting them in their dreams, they should completely stop hearing him and seek for deliverance soonest possible.
Don't play this guy level of spirit. He is pure demonic.
Simple reason. He has denied the Father God and holiness. It's only about Jesus and unlimited Grace for today and also tomorrow which is already forgiven.
To the new creatures out there, if you are reading this. This theology is not biblical. Read the book of Romans on your own.
Be Blessed.
Shalom!
*There is a saying, "'Fake it till you make it"*
*"Before a man can bind the enemy, he must know there is nothing binding him. Before God could bring me to this place of working of miracles, He had to break me a thousand times. Until God has mowed you down, you will never have this compassion for others" - Smith Wigglesworth (1859-1947)*
*Gal.6:7 - 'Do not be deceived. God is NOT MOCKED; {ERV: If you think you can fool God, you are only fooling yourselves; Remedy Bible: Don’t delude yourselves: God cannot be tricked or fooled} for WHATEVER A MAN SOWS, THAT SHALL HE ALSO REAP.'*
Well said! I once asked a close friend and business associate of many years on what he thinks of JP-without telling him who is JP -....after looking and listening to a short clip i given him, his immediate instinctive reply was :" this fellow cannot be trusted".
Sometimes worldly people can recognised a fake or false preacher instinctively better than most church goers who dont study the bible.
01:11 that was the same thing i thought of when Gabriel read the testimony. Given that NCC attendees always can't wait to showcase how blessed they were by GOD. It was extremely unusual for that particular "someone" not to be excited and want to share the healing miracle INSTANTLY and IMMEDIATELY!!! Unless the so called testimony is SCRIPTED.
One way NCC can bend this thing around is to claim that the "someone" did not attend the first service where JP preached live, but attended the taped service. Then NCC can boast that the anointing of JP and healing power of GOD is not limited by time and space.
For those who testified they received their healing after sometime and not instantly or shortly, it can be because of the prayers of many others like their leaders, friends, family and their own prayers. So JP should not take credit for the prayers of others. Only if the healing is manifested in that service, can he claims and take credit. After all there are still miracle meetings still happening elsewhere and healing is instant and glory given to God
Only Jesus should be thanked and glorified in all our healings and testimonies.
Something wrong when a pastor demands to be thanked and glorified as well. This is typical of a cult leader.
Jesus doesn't share His glory with any man
JP has used God and the Holy Spirit in vain many times. Read what happens next:
Mathew 24:24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
Galatians 1：6-9 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.
2 Timothy 3:5 Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
Titus 1:16 They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work.
2 Peter 2-3 And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
James 4:11 But if you judge the law you are not a doer of the law but a judge .
JP reminds me of the Cult leader Rajneesh in Oregon US.
I read somewhere in one of the blog that JP was summoned in Singapore court few years ago. After that no news came out. Somebody should dig that info and find out what actual had happened. We will get some clarity.
Atleast the new creatures will get some truth and be saved.
Jp message is all the time devil, devil, devil
When u spend many hours bowling, u definitely going to get ache.. that kind of stuff dont need healing my fren!
Anyway that young man said he felt the chill n said he felt abit better...he didn't said heal...but JP pressured him by asking "better or heal"...so the young man get hint...so he said HEAL...this is not genuine healing...when Jesus n his disciples heal they heal 100% not abit not partially not "you will get better by the day"!!!
Where is the person that is being healed? Can he or she come forward to give the testimony? Why is Joseph Prince giving the testimony? He is desperately looking for an honor for himself. Joseph Prince said "declare healed even though there is pain". It is like declaring healed when you still couldn't walk, still laying sick in bed, etc., what the crap is he talking about? I mean, healed is healed, not with some pain remaining.
May God give rest to the Soul and give peace to the family.
Still have abit of pain...isnt healing my dear!! No where in the bible u some healing leaving that person still feeling abit of pain or still cant walk 100% ,etc.
JP using pressure to get people to say what he want them to say...