Always appreciate the amount of work you put into your videos , Old footage loads of rare photos . Excellent work. You really dig deep to give us the best of these events from back in the days which I miss. 👌
Im a Romford girl and this was my go to every weekend. I recognise the faces. Epping Country Club was another place. Both gone now. Just our memories. Many a good story. Thank you for this video. I proper enjoyed this. ❤ and..........COYI ❤
@@enquirer2.0 you know looking back it was good. Feel nostalgic now. Like you say there lots of splinter groups affiliated with West Ham. Like Hornchurch Mafia etc.
Yes plus Dukes in Chelmsford,that place on the A127 near the Halfway House,Keelys Hackney Road plus Brentwood High Street and the Bitter End in Romford.
Been a doorman for many many years. And although i havent run into the ICF (that i know of) i have had many nights like this with several mobs from all over the country. From Hibs casuals to travelars to even football club outings or stag do's. It happens every weekend in many town centres.
Nice one. Used to run with some the boys back in the day. My brother was the skinhead I was born 74 just in time for 80s 90s rave. Best time bar metting my wife she is a Traveller no difference between me and her after mags scratcher stopped the wkend party 🥳 raves then it was back to battling and getting high now older and not as wild the UK just getting by is difficult now . Respect 💯👍🥊
Suspect ICF lads imo, back then I worked, drank and other stuff around lads who were proper WHU from I.O.Dogs, CanningT., Barking etc, partying in Goldmine Canvey island days they were hard Another good one mate 🥊🙏
@@AbdulGhani-vm6oqholds more truth than your two comments…..Glasgow smile, Chelsea smile….decades old, if you think the uk gangs only started using knives recently you’re either A) a new arrival or B) lived a sheltered life ….
@@BleachDemon99 oh right, right of course. The foot ball firms were known for knife fighting were they? Lenny McLean and Roy Pretty boy were also famous knife fighters weren't they? 🙄🙄🙄
We went to hollywoods ipswich ,,,,,95 to 97/8 awesome club, We spent most of the allnighters upstairs in the Garage room we never saw any trouble but due to the smartys we couldn't see 2 feet in front of us Happy Day😁😁👍🏼
Born and raised in east london Forest Gate in the early 90s me and my mates went out to Romford and ended up in Hollywoods and i get chatting to this very pretty girl who tells me her ex is also in the club anyway im buying her drinks and this big scary looking geezer comes up to me and tells me he is ICF and if i know whats good for me i better leave that girl alone i turn around and see he is with a group of equally rough looking lads and made a tactical withdrawal and me and my mates got on the night bus back to eastlondon with blueballs but my teeth still in place happy days
I remember this fight taking place at hollywoods I use to go there myself and knew the chaps involved as I was there age group and went with them on match days but I wasn’t there that night thank funk 😂 they were game as fuck but sometimes you bite off more than you can chew!! And this was the case that night things are so different these days and everyone a lot older and sensible we have bigger fights going on in our country now and we should channel our energies into that and taking care of our families etc another great post mate keep them coming 👍🙏🙏⚒️⚒️⚒️
Brilliant Video Ben And The Research You do Into Your Uploads is Second to NONE & It TELLS 65k VIEWS in Less than 24 Hours. Keep Up The GREAT WORK mate. Love & Respect from GLASGOW 🤝 💙 🏴
Thankyou brother top man. All credit to big Mick Kelly a gentleman and old school security boss who's kind enough give me his time and shout out to Terry Stone podcast
@@Blinkandyoullmissitpodcast just noticed you on this 1 of Ben's Ian . That 1 in the pub 🍻 with the wee squirrels n then back to the club . Was howling 😂💯 best bit recordings ever Ian. Camera 🤳 work good just the editing part up n down a bit. Will just blame it on the wee chasers. I thought it was perfect mate. Respect always. Jim 👍🥊💯🏴👍
i thought handing out the card after he'd been handed out a beating was rather class of the lad. i wouldn't say it to their faces but no way the icf have won every fight they ever sanctioned.
Nice one as always Ben. Was just saying to someone how much things changed from then and afterwards wot was left is the problem uc in the streets today. Fake drugs killing youngsters up n down the uk . Respect always. Loved my Rave n dash after a game at weekend then letting go the same night till. 8am in the morning 🌅. Kept us fit as fiddles . Love your stuff top man that deserves top respect. Jim n Debbie 💯💚 and friendship always. Great guy Ben 👍🥊💯🤝💚 Respect 👍
Vaguely remember hearing about this, it was at the time of the icf trial and their activity was pretty dormant then, this would have been a younger south bank firm from places like Basildon and Benfleet, trying to make a name for themselves.
I don't go for football violence now, I'm old. However I'm a Hammer and remember to back in the day. Was nice watching this from a nostalgic point of view. Good vid
The Irish fella threw me out of hollywoods in 1991 . Fresh faced 17 year old . Thought I was invincible. Learned a huge lesson that put me in good shape for my adult life.!
I took my nan to the Hollywood's open night 😂 I preferred BENS Though....Upstairs to the Bitter End! ❤ (born and dragged up in Romford, Went to Chase Cross School) x
It's was sad how far Hollywood's reputation fell by my era in the late 90s. It eventually went out of business in the early 2000s. I think the final nail was Time & Envy opening round the corner.
Yeah, i remember those times. Hollywoods paled into insignificance when Time & Envy opened. And at that time there was never a shortage of other Bars, Pubs and Clubs to visit also.
Interesting post, thank you. It wasn't the ICF or the Under 5's just a bunch of kids having got to large for their own boots. Jane1605 is correct, this Club along with the EFCC, Berwick Manor, and a place along the A12 not as far as Dukes (Palms?) Ilford RATT and the Palais that were the go to places. If Carlton Leach, T Tucker, P Tate etc were the so called people in charge then there is no way the ICF would have attacked Hollywoods in Romford. I am not saying it did not happen but may need a little more research Ben please.
I spoke to the headdoorman who got arrested for it so can't get a clearer picture than that. It was around 1986 and they handed him ICF card Tate didn't work door with tucker bck then they only knew each other for a short period. Mick had the Berwick aswell later il be doing a story on that and Russian Andre soon
agree totally - the timings are out and they wouldn't have been proper icf, who would have been aware of leachey and co, doing the doors. not 86 either, earlier.
Im a bit too young for this (I lived in Walthamstow at the time to be fair), though I had heard about it a fair few years later, but I live near Romford now. I went to Hollywoods once, thankfully before it finally closed down, and for a long time Romford was a club hot spot, but since the say mid 2000s, the clubs slowly faded out of the town centre. Saying that, there is still the pub/late night bars hybrid type just on the other side of the train station like Yates. Today the council have made it into a shopping hot spot and a growing housing area for the London overspill, so the only place your going to get a decent club is to travel right into London, which means you are going to spend the best part of three hours travel in the hope you not too drunk and allowed into the club at midnight before you go home in the early hours.
my band played Hollwoods and the support band had a fight with the doormen. It went into the fire escape!! Years later we found out it was Tony Tucker that was there.
Imagine doing an article on the ICF and having a picture of Danny Dyer taken from a film?? Interesting to see Tony Tucker , he was a real unit which is often overlooked when he’s portrayed in films etc
@@enquirer2.0 - I think it's quite funny that you sometimes have Danny Dyer in the thumbnail. The subject as a whole shouldn't be taken 100% seriously, in my opinion.
@@enquirer2.0 I notice further down a few mentions of the “Cambridge General” in the infamous Camb vs Chelsea “ pincer movement “ row . The full court transcript is actually online , just google “ Cambridge General “ if you do a podcast on it , be a good base for facts etc . Keep up the good work mate .
Chris Little wouldnt let me into a pub one night . (hes not hollywoods or essex) but a doorman with some reputation. picked me up and threw me six feet across a car park . eventually got murdered . one of his last requests was his dogs were killed and buried with him . bouncers , a breed apart.
Thanks as always for another great account of club nights! Just read a fabulous book written by Robin Barratt a door man and body guard, what an amazing story and could not put it down, just waiting for another book he wrote to arrive. I am sure you know of him and strongly recommend this 2004 book "Doing the Doors". Thanks again for a really great video.
Different place but was anybody in the tally Ho pub Kentish town 80s when Liverpool where playing Arsenal and Liverpool decided to stop 2 coaches and attack the pub on a saturday afternoon ? There wernt many of us it was a normal saturday playing pool when 2 coaches unload and attack the front and back doors at the same time hell fire we where fighting for our lives the bar was destroyed guy next to me was glassed in the neck I was trying to hold a beer cloth to his neck and defend us both while f-ing ashtrays bottles and glassees flying everywhere saw one of our guys surround by a huge circle of Liverpool fans closing in on him hes swinging a pool cue like Monkey untill they got him we cound not get out to help and all time the police where sitting in numbers watching It was like rourks drift for us cockneys mate all bandages and black eyes still felt good to have survived :)
Seems strange as the ICF came from Romford, Hornchurch, Elm Park, etc so why they would fight on home turf is odd? Hollywoods was after my time. I remember Tiffany’s in Ilford and the Lacey Lady in Seven Kings. In Hornchurch there was a disco above the bus garage near Harrow Lodge Park, but that was it for me. Dull really. Always a Hammer never an ICF. 👍
@rj4685 I can't honestly say to be honest because I don't know BUT all these hard nut doorman no matter what they say were all bottley fron anyone who was game and fearless with either a name or connected because most doorman were meat head roided heads liberty takers who were shot scared of come backs many will say no way but like likes of lenny McLean was under manners with many faces out of East london
Wonder is Mick Kelly related to the notorious Kelly brothers from Limerick Ireland? Two lads who you would never fk with if you valued your life. He has a bit of a look of them tbh
Can you cover the Cockney Rejects infamous ‘battle of Birmingham’ gig? They were a pretty famous punk band who ran with the ICF and were pretty tasty boxers too.
i bumped into the Rejects in Brick Lane doing some interview about a year ago but got to speak with Vince & asked him about that day but he was in a rush & couldn't talk said ask Jeff 🇬🇧⚒
A lot of ICF faces were at the gig as part of the Rejects road crew . Horrendous violence and vastly outnumbered but had no option but to fight back . Jeff covers it in detail in his book .
@@ราตรีวิชาดี 😂😂😂 like fk we did. He was part of fishers crew, along with the math brothers and jimmy smith. I took all their doors in Romford by 94. Didn’t he have a fish van ? He was a very likeable guy and I got on well with him, but cmon now, avoided him 😜
@@michaelkelly3638 Yes WE could have beat him.Mark Kaylor said he'd ruin Godfrey in the ring but sod going up against him on the cobbles.All those names same as Shawy were let in the 1st week Hollywood's opened.Within 2weeks all were barred.I think they had local lad on door who gave heads up on them
Do not think this incident had anything to do with the ICF, there was an incident between West ham firm members and doormen at the Lacey Lady nightclub, Seven Kings quite a few years earlier but never heard any talk among my WH mates about this incident.
They did, but not when we all turned up !!! Being game is not the same as being skilled. Will give you this tho, they backed each other up till the end. I’ve seen grown men run and leave their mates behind on many occasions.
Bill Gardner, in his own words, was a loner. But was usually around the TBF, as they were mostly of an age. The original Mile End Mob were a generation earlier.
Was 15 when when to London Eastham E6 I bang on the barking road. Just by bowl inn I use see the run ins with the away fans, if Liverpool or Everton were at West ham add keep nut down for the day. Even tho many new me I wasn't taking the chance 😂, I remmber hearing about a kid. Called shaksey.
You got that right and all the old irons love to meet up in the Cow Westfield opposite the stadium to talk about what s gay time they had in their younger days 😂
@michaelkelly3638 what year did Hollywood's open? In the early 2000s, I was training in Systema, the Russian martial art. On one of the yearly seminars, one of our teachers was a Russian guy who worked on the door of Hollywood's.
Always appreciate the amount of work you put into your videos , Old footage loads of rare photos . Excellent work. You really dig deep to give us the best of these events from back in the days which I miss. 👌
Im a Romford girl and this was my go to every weekend. I recognise the faces. Epping Country Club was another place. Both gone now. Just our memories. Many a good story. Thank you for this video. I proper enjoyed this. ❤ and..........COYI ❤
Thankyou sounded a great club was chatting to Mick about it ❤
Had some great nights there!% Braintree barn anorl magic nights!%%
@@enquirer2.0 you know looking back it was good. Feel nostalgic now. Like you say there lots of splinter groups affiliated with West Ham. Like Hornchurch Mafia etc.
Yes plus Dukes in Chelmsford,that place on the A127 near the Halfway House,Keelys Hackney Road plus Brentwood High Street and the Bitter End in Romford.
@@swimdeep189I'm from East Ham and no one I knew ever went as far as Chelmsford in the 90s
Been a doorman for many many years. And although i havent run into the ICF (that i know of) i have had many nights like this with several mobs from all over the country. From Hibs casuals to travelars to even football club outings or stag do's. It happens every weekend in many town centres.
Nice one. Used to run with some the boys back in the day. My brother was the skinhead I was born 74 just in time for 80s 90s rave. Best time bar metting my wife she is a Traveller no difference between me and her after mags scratcher stopped the wkend party 🥳 raves then it was back to battling and getting high now older and not as wild the UK just getting by is difficult now . Respect 💯👍🥊
Aaaand
@@daviecrocket9160 bit sick o pricks like yourself Dave rocket keep em up. Can guarantee your nix at all
@@daviecrocket9160 and UC ware I am if u ever need broken bones
@@daviecrocket9160 U must be the big man I take it ticket 🎫
Suspect ICF lads imo, back then I worked, drank and other stuff around lads who were proper WHU from I.O.Dogs, CanningT., Barking etc, partying in Goldmine Canvey island days they were hard
Another good one mate 🥊🙏
Mick seems a typical hard as fuck Irish man from that era😂😂 but not a bully if you know what I mean? Top content mate 👌 👏 👍
Another belter, thank you.
Its knives nowadays. Fists fights dont happen often. I feel sorry for the younger guys.
Remember 'Diversity is our Strength'?
@@KingdomofHeaven-vd9hr okay thanks for your input Adolf. 🙄
@@AbdulGhani-vm6oqholds more truth than your two comments…..Glasgow smile, Chelsea smile….decades old, if you think the uk gangs only started using knives recently you’re either A) a new arrival or B) lived a sheltered life ….
@@BleachDemon99 oh right, right of course. The foot ball firms were known for knife fighting were they? Lenny McLean and Roy Pretty boy were also famous knife fighters weren't they? 🙄🙄🙄
@@AbdulGhani-vm6oq is your street knowledge strictly film/book based?
Ur storry telling is amazing it makes you feel like you are there topwork
We went to hollywoods ipswich ,,,,,95 to 97/8 awesome club, We spent most of the allnighters upstairs in the Garage room we never saw any trouble but due to the smartys we couldn't see 2 feet in front of us Happy Day😁😁👍🏼
Just heard Michael Kelly talk about this on Terry Stones podcast. He had some great stories!
Yes mate he a top man Mick got some fantastic stories of some of his doormen etc he’s kindly letting me use
Top stuff as always dude.your stories and your narrating is brilliant bro.best wishes to you and your.keep up the great work fella
Born and raised in east london Forest Gate in the early 90s me and my mates went out to Romford and ended up in Hollywoods and i get chatting to this very pretty girl who tells me her ex is also in the club anyway im buying her drinks and this big scary looking geezer comes up to me and tells me he is ICF and if i know whats good for me i better leave that girl alone i turn around and see he is with a group of equally rough looking lads and made a tactical withdrawal and me and my mates got on the night bus back to eastlondon with blueballs but my teeth still in place happy days
Top man waking up in morning with no missing teeth always a result, a smart man ❤
Pot Noodle and a wank👍
Well played Sir, many a young man has not been so wise, where attractive young women and ex boyfriends are concerned… street smarts alway trump.
I remember this fight taking place at hollywoods I use to go there myself and knew the chaps involved as I was there age group and went with them on match days but I wasn’t there that night thank funk 😂 they were game as fuck but sometimes you bite off more than you can chew!! And this was the case that night things are so different these days and everyone a lot older and sensible we have bigger fights going on in our country now and we should channel our energies into that and taking care of our families etc another great post mate keep them coming 👍🙏🙏⚒️⚒️⚒️
Thankyou mate
@@paulkillick527 well said ⚒️
FEKKIN BANG ON 💙💙
Exactly mate 27th July London COYS 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Is that Millwall Paul
Brilliant Video Ben And The Research You do Into Your Uploads is Second to NONE & It TELLS 65k VIEWS in Less than 24 Hours. Keep Up The GREAT WORK mate. Love & Respect from GLASGOW 🤝 💙 🏴
Thankyou brother top man. All credit to big Mick Kelly a gentleman and old school security boss who's kind enough give me his time and shout out to Terry Stone podcast
@@Blinkandyoullmissitpodcast just noticed you on this 1 of Ben's Ian . That 1 in the pub 🍻 with the wee squirrels n then back to the club . Was howling 😂💯 best bit recordings ever Ian. Camera 🤳 work good just the editing part up n down a bit. Will just blame it on the wee chasers. I thought it was perfect mate. Respect always. Jim 👍🥊💯🏴👍
i thought handing out the card after he'd been handed out a beating was rather class of the lad.
i wouldn't say it to their faces but no way the icf have won every fight they ever sanctioned.
They never said they did mate
I mean the fight is the point, not the result.
Beautiful channel thanks ❤!! From Northen Italy love the 70/80s Lads!
Thankyou my friend 🙏
Nice one as always Ben. Was just saying to someone how much things changed from then and afterwards wot was left is the problem uc in the streets today. Fake drugs killing youngsters up n down the uk . Respect always. Loved my Rave n dash after a game at weekend then letting go the same night till. 8am in the morning 🌅. Kept us fit as fiddles . Love your stuff top man that deserves top respect. Jim n Debbie 💯💚 and friendship always. Great guy Ben 👍🥊💯🤝💚 Respect 👍
@@JimRennix74 Fake drugs killing youngsters up n down the UK ?
I've heard this anecdote so many times but in fairness to Mick he's a better talker than most.
Vaguely remember hearing about this, it was at the time of the icf trial and their activity was pretty dormant then, this would have been a younger south bank firm from places like Basildon and Benfleet, trying to make a name for themselves.
That's right. Weren't ICF. Nor Under 5s. Another incorrect video.
Love all your work mate 👏👏👏
Thank you mate
I don't go for football violence now, I'm old. However I'm a Hammer and remember to back in the day. Was nice watching this from a nostalgic point of view. Good vid
Another cracking post
I realise now that many pics of tony tucker don't do his size justice!
He was huge but so were his gyno nipples 👀
Possibly because he was often photographed with Pat Tate who was also on the burly side.
The Irish fella threw me out of hollywoods in 1991 . Fresh faced 17 year old . Thought I was invincible. Learned a huge lesson that put me in good shape for my adult life.!
We’ll call it a draw 😜
@@michaelkelly3638 it was all over before I knew it haha
Fairplay
lol…all people have to learn the learn the meaning of the word respect, no matter what age…😉
@@michaelkelly3638😂
I took my nan to the Hollywood's open night 😂 I preferred BENS Though....Upstairs to the Bitter End! ❤ (born and dragged up in Romford, Went to Chase Cross School) x
Tony Tucker in many of those pictures
I been to loads of West Ham games in the 80s I never heard of them or seen any trouble I only learned about them on utube
Im forever blowing bubbles he's my best mate 😂
Quote" Not their seasoned mob , aspiring lads". No doubt !
It's was sad how far Hollywood's reputation fell by my era in the late 90s. It eventually went out of business in the early 2000s. I think the final nail was Time & Envy opening round the corner.
Yeah, i remember those times. Hollywoods paled into insignificance when Time & Envy opened. And at that time there was never a shortage of other Bars, Pubs and Clubs to visit also.
Absolutely loved that place❤❤❤❤
Interesting post, thank you. It wasn't the ICF or the Under 5's just a bunch of kids having got to large for their own boots. Jane1605 is correct, this Club along with the EFCC, Berwick Manor, and a place along the A12 not as far as Dukes (Palms?) Ilford RATT and the Palais that were the go to places. If Carlton Leach, T Tucker, P Tate etc were the so called people in charge then there is no way the ICF would have attacked Hollywoods in Romford. I am not saying it did not happen but may need a little more research Ben please.
This was early 80s though. Long before those names were in charge of any doors.
Spot on 👍
I spoke to the headdoorman who got arrested for it so can't get a clearer picture than that. It was around 1986 and they handed him ICF card Tate didn't work door with tucker bck then they only knew each other for a short period. Mick had the Berwick aswell later il be doing a story on that and Russian Andre soon
@@enquirer2.0 be interested in Berwick Manor stories. That was a great place, I never saw any trouble but heard about it
agree totally - the timings are out and they wouldn't have been proper icf, who would have been aware of leachey and co, doing the doors. not 86 either, earlier.
50 now
Seen a bit of that carry on around Kilburn about the late 80s. Yes I was wet behind the ears so I did ok.
How times change.
Great content.
Im a bit too young for this (I lived in Walthamstow at the time to be fair), though I had heard about it a fair few years later, but I live near Romford now. I went to Hollywoods once, thankfully before it finally closed down, and for a long time Romford was a club hot spot, but since the say mid 2000s, the clubs slowly faded out of the town centre. Saying that, there is still the pub/late night bars hybrid type just on the other side of the train station like Yates.
Today the council have made it into a shopping hot spot and a growing housing area for the London overspill, so the only place your going to get a decent club is to travel right into London, which means you are going to spend the best part of three hours travel in the hope you not too drunk and allowed into the club at midnight before you go home in the early hours.
my band played Hollwoods and the support band had a fight with the doormen. It went into the fire escape!! Years later we found out it was Tony Tucker that was there.
Early 80s .Miles behind
Imagine doing an article on the ICF and having a picture of Danny Dyer taken from a film?? Interesting to see Tony Tucker , he was a real unit which is often overlooked when he’s portrayed in films etc
Well judging by the views the thumbnail did well so I'm not complaining
@@enquirer2.0 - I think it's quite funny that you sometimes have Danny Dyer in the thumbnail. The subject as a whole shouldn't be taken 100% seriously, in my opinion.
@@enquirer2.0 I notice further down a few mentions of the “Cambridge General” in the infamous Camb vs Chelsea “ pincer movement “ row . The full court transcript is actually online , just google “ Cambridge General “ if you do a podcast on it , be a good base for facts etc . Keep up the good work mate .
I thought the guy on the thumbnail was the beast from the chase at first 😂
who rember Bentleys canning Town, am the red skin scouser😂honest.
is that danny rampling at 2.38 ?
That one guy smiling would frighten penny wise back down the sewers.
Watched something very similar to this yesterday.
Chris Little wouldnt let me into a pub one night . (hes not hollywoods or essex) but a doorman with some reputation. picked me up and threw me six feet across a car park . eventually got murdered . one of his last requests was his dogs were killed and buried with him . bouncers , a breed apart.
Not a yid I’m English I hate that word.Cheers mate 🏴🏴🇬🇧🇬🇧
Just found this channel..great content im now addicted..carlton was with the essex boys right ?
More jackanories
They were the under 5
Back, when Men were Men, and Penguins were Penguins?
Thanks as always for another great account of club nights!
Just read a fabulous book written by Robin Barratt a door man and body guard, what an amazing story and could not put it down, just waiting for another book he wrote to arrive. I am sure you know of him and strongly recommend this 2004 book "Doing the Doors". Thanks again for a really great video.
Read Geoff Thompsons book!
@@urchill1 Thanks for that, keep up the great work!
Different place but was anybody in the tally Ho pub Kentish town 80s when Liverpool where playing Arsenal and Liverpool decided to stop 2 coaches and attack the pub on a saturday afternoon ? There wernt many of us it was a normal saturday playing pool when 2 coaches unload and attack the front and back doors at the same time hell fire we where fighting for our lives the bar was destroyed guy next to me was glassed in the neck I was trying to hold a beer cloth to his neck and defend us both while f-ing ashtrays bottles and glassees flying everywhere saw one of our guys surround by a huge circle of Liverpool fans closing in on him hes swinging a pool cue like Monkey untill they got him we cound not get out to help and all time the police where sitting in numbers watching It was like rourks drift for us cockneys mate all bandages and black eyes still felt good to have survived :)
Seems strange as the ICF came from Romford, Hornchurch, Elm Park, etc so why they would fight on home turf is odd? Hollywoods was after my time. I remember Tiffany’s in Ilford and the Lacey Lady in Seven Kings. In Hornchurch there was a disco above the bus garage near Harrow Lodge Park, but that was it for me. Dull really. Always a Hammer never an ICF. 👍
We was always fighting with doormen on nights out etc in our local area happens more than u wud think
Under 5s 100 %
Wasn't this where Jella got a terrible beating and sustained brain injury ⚒
@rj4685 I can't honestly say to be honest because I don't know BUT all these hard nut doorman no matter what they say were all bottley fron anyone who was game and fearless with either a name or connected because most doorman were meat head roided heads liberty takers who were shot scared of come backs many will say no way but like likes of lenny McLean was under manners with many faces out of East london
Wonder is Mick Kelly related to the notorious Kelly brothers from Limerick Ireland? Two lads who you would never fk with if you valued your life. He has a bit of a look of them tbh
i was thinking the same if he is linked to them in some way
It was probably the youth firm.
Can you cover the Cockney Rejects infamous ‘battle of Birmingham’ gig? They were a pretty famous punk band who ran with the ICF and were pretty tasty boxers too.
Yes mate I shall research
Villa brum joined up that night but west ham and the rejects stood there ground and held own even though were outnumbered.
i bumped into the Rejects in Brick Lane doing some interview about a year ago but got to speak with Vince & asked him about that day but he was in a rush & couldn't talk said ask Jeff 🇬🇧⚒
A lot of ICF faces were at the gig as part of the Rejects road crew . Horrendous violence and vastly outnumbered but had no option but to fight back . Jeff covers it in detail in his book .
Cedar Club
When Barry Godfrey went there all the doorman took a tea break
Jeeze, I remember that name from Harold hill !! Same guy ?
@@michaelkelly3638 Yes same man.Bouncers at Hollywoods gave him a wide berth
@@ราตรีวิชาดี 😂😂😂 like fk we did. He was part of fishers crew, along with the math brothers and jimmy smith. I took all their doors in Romford by 94. Didn’t he have a fish van ? He was a very likeable guy and I got on well with him, but cmon now, avoided him 😜
@@michaelkelly3638 Yes WE could have beat him.Mark Kaylor said he'd ruin Godfrey in the ring but sod going up against him on the cobbles.All those names same as Shawy were let in the 1st week Hollywood's opened.Within 2weeks all were barred.I think they had local lad on door who gave heads up on them
Ice Cream Firm
It wasnt west hams main icf it was you young ones who tagged along at matches , it wasnt even the u5s never mind the icf
Of course not WHU taking a beating lol this " event " wasn't even in Manchester .
@@jamescorlett5272 more man u fans in london than manchester anyway, like west ham have never done the mancs behave
The under 5's wouldn't get in a club...😂😂😂
Think now most weekends Romford is a battle ground
The icf used to sell these cards to make money. The Firm wouldn't carry them. So like was said they were probably under 5s
That mick Kelly,terry stone interview was very good
He's top guy Mick
hollywoods opened 1987 i think.
Is the liquid bullet production your talkig of spelt with a z by any chance
You can see tony tucker , 10yrs later he's shot ! . . .
Do not think this incident had anything to do with the ICF, there was an incident between West ham firm members and doormen at the Lacey Lady nightclub, Seven Kings quite a few years earlier but never heard any talk among my WH mates about this incident.
Is that rolf at 3:13 next to tucker? Only really seen the pick of him with dimple chin. Seems like him?
No not roff think it done maybe wring
@@enquirer2.0 ta. Thought was subscribed already. Done 👍🏼
FOOTSOLDIERS!
Children will play..
Spot on smile stan
East london and Essex, not the other way round
Cormier Dam
That night was the under fives . They gave a good account of themselves that night .
They did, but not when we all turned up !!! Being game is not the same as being skilled. Will give you this tho, they backed each other up till the end. I’ve seen grown men run and leave their mates behind on many occasions.
@@michaelkelly3638 FairPlay mr Kelly ! Old school! Not many of you left
Mitcham and Southend
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Dude that gave out the card is a clown! Fucking hilarious.
All hiding in j Arthur's wine bar when united turned up. Fact
Gonna say can’t believe you left out Bill Gardners name but then again I don’t think he classes himself as ICF
He says he was mile end I think or some other firm b4 the icf
@@enquirer2.0the Mile End gang were the business, they use to make it safe for normal fan to travel away
B.G.was never I.C.F...he was more Mile End..also T B F..bit later👍
Bill Gardner, in his own words, was a loner. But was usually around the TBF, as they were mostly of an age. The original Mile End Mob were a generation earlier.
@@brianhegarty2902 mile end skins
Also lmao! Icf got rattled because... There icf! Blow bubbles and that's it.😂😂
ICF - I Can't Fight
Managed to get a 10 minute video out of what was essentially a fight in a pub.
Oatcakes are bland . Just an observation . Dont take it personally .
Who is the celeb getting pic taken with Mick on door?? Sosa Big boss Guy from scarface??
Eddie Kidd
@@michaelkelly3638Figured I was wrong as Sosa actor died in mid 80s😭
That blows away the 30 years undefeated 🤣
I did mma for years .inever did doorwork for this reason.Do your job then the police arrest you.
Was 15 when when to London Eastham E6 I bang on the barking road. Just by bowl inn I use see the run ins with the away fans, if Liverpool or Everton were at West ham add keep nut down for the day. Even tho many new me I wasn't taking the chance 😂, I remmber hearing about a kid. Called shaksey.
That was Abraham from Poplar
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Why’s Danny dyer in the thumbnail he was never ICF and a self confessed coward ?
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It's a football factory image for the thumbnail I never said he was icf I create the thumbnails how I want to
@@DuncanLeslie-nv3wu lol 😂
I wouldn't call him a coward he is sensible. Didn't work out so good for Cass Pennant he was one lucky guy. And now he has made something of himself.
Did mick kelly write a book?
No mate !!
ICF undefeated in 30yrs never heard so much shite
These bellends Just seemed to get 1 hiding after another 😅inter City fannies more like 😅
Was cass and leech really that hard compared to these doorman?
Irons by name, irons by nature
You got that right and all the old irons love to meet up in the Cow Westfield opposite the stadium to talk about what s gay time they had in their younger days 😂
Hollywoods was just a cheaper copy of the Hypodrome
No comparison, hippo was an old ballroom of romance updated to a nightclub. Hollywood was spectacular, but suffered from being outside the west end
@michaelkelly3638 what year did Hollywood's open?
In the early 2000s, I was training in Systema, the Russian martial art. On one of the yearly seminars, one of our teachers was a Russian guy who worked on the door of Hollywood's.
@@RichToff-b6s it opened April 1987 !!
Yes, you are referring to Valera Riazanov, one of my Russian doormen.
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You’ll find him on RUclips teaching ‘ballistic striking’
@@RichToff-b6s that was Valera Riazanov. He’s still doing it around the world. He’s on RUclips
Probably west hams under 5's
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Could be the under fives.
ICF got kicked all over in Newcastle. They were petrol bombed in St James Park.
Didnt the ICF have a fight with bouncers at the Ilford Palais.
Niko kao Hajduk iz Splita- Torcida1950 🇭🇷
why cant they all just go to the club and have a drink and dance with a pretty lady ?
Because it's all about image pretty pathetic really 🤨
Because in the 80s until 88 this was very very common just the way it was at the time
A gay mate once told me. When the balls are full the brain is empty.
It wud be too easy ..to go club ..and not brawling