He forgot the most important : an abnormal level of critical thinking and patience. There is a quote attributed to Einstein (not sure if he actually said it but it would make sense) "I am not more clever I just sit longer with a problem".
I love that. Timing is everything. We are all on control of the most powerful computer on the planet, yet most of us ignore it and become stagnant in the trivial mundane day to day tasks.
Oh yeah explains why I'm ALWAYS in my head and searching endlessly for answers but it brings me the most profound insight and understanding into life. People think I'm so smart and have my shit together but really I just take the liberty to think more.
My grandpa grew up very poor in Mexico with very little education. However, when he worked at a mine for some time, some Americans were so impressed by the inventions he made to streamline his work, that they wanted to bring him to the US to have him study engineering and work for them. I feel that he was a genius that didn't receive the nurturing necessary to bloom properly.
“I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.”
@@shorx9199 RICHARD FEYNMAN said 'he was just hard woking' and everyone else thought he was genius . EINSTEIN said- he was more curious than others. SO , genius = (curiosity + hard work)
A passion for abstraction. Wow, that pretty much sums it up. There's a quote, "small minds discuss people, mediocre minds discuss events, great minds discuss ideas".
Well I wanna discuss like a million of ideas coming up on my mind but the problem is no one gets it they all talk about silly school controversies, that I never find interesting and they are very dominated by celebs that is something I never get. When i discuss idea they are all like ''idk'' ''that's a bit boring'' "OKAY u crazy thinking of that'' I always end up feeling lonely mostlythey are annoying friend, mostly I try to fit in that's it. And always find string to ideas or end up connecting dot up in my head till I get a decent outcome.
This is true, I thought I know a lot of things when I was 16, politics, history, science, philosophy, logic, but it all changed when I was 17, My world view shifted, I felt enlightened, I feel like I know more than the average person......then I turned 18, my pool of knowledge is just a spec, I know so little and I have alot more to learn.
The less you see there is to learn, the more scary it gets because you know there is a lot out there to be discovered yet within the mystery of the unknown
Geniuses don't want to be alone. They aren't default introverts. It just happens because nobody really understands them. Imagine you are the only human on earth surrounded by dogs. Dogs make good company but the conversations will be wanting. They aren't going to understand half the things you do and half the things you say. It's that kind of loneliness.
You are the first person in the comment section to understand the loneliness of genius. Only genius, I suspect, would know the down side of genius. I was identified as a genius at a very young age. When I took a test to see how far into genius mode I was when I was 18 I was horrified to be deemed smarter than Einstein. In my mind, "how am I ever going to find a mate that is similar to me" rang through my head like a statement of self torture. Genius means rarity. Being the anomaly is never great. Even in grade one I would never tell the teachers all the details that were in my head. "They" don't have the ability to understand. I live in a world run by idiots. The more you can see, the more you see that other humans are operating with very limited and often untruthful data. So, you see, you are not alone. There are other geniuses in this world; however, telling the truth is a dangerous endeavour in a world run by professional liars. Inventing things and telling the truth can get you killed. In a world where virtually every human on this planet is so stupid that they are easy to lie to has lead this world to be controlled by professional liars. Stay safe, and remember, the media was set up by those that have the most to lose, truth is their enemy.
@@Skyborn- very interesting. At the end you mean that thr media is an important part of society and there are people trying to destroy it? And also is the media actually about to get wiped out. Sorry if these are very dumb questions
I think this was the simplest and truest commonality between geniuses. That aloneness, I think, is due to the fact that you can’t communicate your abstract thoughts as well you intend to to others, I think that’s what drives geniuses to try and express these abstract thoughts in equations-Einstein; paintings-da Vinci; tunes-Mozart, even words- Shakespeare. They don’t work well with others or go to others with their thoughts because they won’t understand, their expressions convey their abstract thoughts and can lead them into better understanding of those thoughts in a way no other person could, not even a fellow genius (subject to his own abstract thoughts and biases)
Snoop Dogg ain't about that genius life, dawg. I don't know about all them geniuses, but I know I ain't never had no problems communicating my thoughts to others. Maybe them geniuses just ain't had the right crew to roll with, you feel me? Abstract thoughts ain't no thang, I can express myself just fine through my rhymes and flow. Don't need no fancy equations or paintings to get my point across. Gonna keep it real, dawg.
Interesting take. I'd thought he was more talking about 'aloneness' rather than 'loneliness'. The former being a state in which one can focus intensely on developing an idea/ design/ artwork/etc, without the intrusions of others breaking the mental "flow", the latter being a state of discomfort brought about by an unfulfilled need for company and connection.
Trying to explain everything complex is when the "craziness" and "insanity" thoughts begin in their minds about you lol such LAZY people, all they are!
Your fundamental flaw is believing works of fiction written by the winners of wars to be actual History. Next up...why it doesn't matter if you believe you'll be remembered or not. You won't be for long 👍
I feel inteligent people are more prone to depression. They just naturally known more and cannot accept a false reality. They need the truth and the truth is almost always bitter.
Also, when you are that informed, that smart, that curious, that ambitious, etc. it doesn’t leave a lot of people in the world with which to enjoy socializing. People start to seem simple, benign, and boring. It must be a very lonely and frustrating existence.
I'm pretty sure this is a psychological effect? It's called the dunning-kreuger effect, and it's this thing where a smart person lacks confidence because they know so much but they're aware that they don't know much in the grand scheme, while a not-so-smart person has confidence because they're ignorant.
Three things make a genius 1) Independent Thinker (isn't afraid to break the mold) 2) An Unbroken Concentration Toward Something 3) Excels in Abstract and Creative thinking
TheAlecnemcova Lol never said I was a genius. But if you wanted to become a "genius" I would assume that would be how. Btw there was already a 3) genius.
Geniuses learn, retain, and synthesize information on a deeper level than most people. They represent a small group. And they can use what they know to advance human knowledge, create artistic masterpieces, or make medical discoveries or scientific inventions & advancements.
I'm surprised to not see curiosity as the main subject here. Aside from being smart, what I've observed about these characters is simply a love of learning about a particular subject. Curiosity. It's what allows you to create that unbroken concentration. If you don't have it then concentration is a battle you constantly are fatigued by. If you do have it, you are energized by everything you discover about your subject. They follow their bliss as Joseph Campbell would say.
A passion for abstraction is a more accurate description as well as an immense ability to concentrate is. This is the essence, while curiosity is more of a consequence of those things - a side product
0:11 thats because Genius is not a character trait. its a function and ability that everyone utilizes on different scales every day. its our social competitive impulse that has given rise to the myth that Genius is a superpower rather than a wonderous thing that connects all of us. thx again 20cent
my advice would be to stay away from popular culture. Follow your own likes and in there you will find your greatest intelligence! Henry David Thoreau said it best, "if a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. let him step to the music that he hears however measured or far away."
Never marrying could be a sign of intelligence if you have found women to be as stress inducing as I have... but intelligence comes in many forms and some of the smartest people I know lack social skills plus the desire to have social approval, this combination means they tend to have just a few close friends and are selective about who they are. Marching to the beat of your own drum, and not following the herd is a sign of backbone, and to be creative requires taking chances and making your own mistakes. That's maybe why Feynman was so brilliant, he was very creative and willing to throw away conventional thinking while at the same time he was practical enough to envision the constraints of reality and how they limit what could be true and false.
Groups always find the lowest common denominator. Your friends dumb you down and geniuses know it. Only if you refuse to be defined by others can you reach full potential.
MrDavidhillman you started off so dumb bashing women that all.i am going to do with your post is this answrt. whatevee else you say is grounded in your broken heart.
Correcting Natalie's grammar was a stupid point. Natalie didn't claim to be a genius. (Which disqualifies everyone from genius status who thought it was a good point.) Anyway, I got the original joke, but my comment is aside from that.
***** lmao seriously ? those arent even grammar mistakes smartass... almost nobody writes with capital letters and perfect punctuation..where do you think you are? at harvard?
"The ability to concentrate with a sort of intensity that is hard for mortals like me to grasp, a kind of passion for abstraction that doesn't lend itself towards easy communication..."
Oh man, meta-cognition, the study of intelligence itself, meta-learning, and the like, are absolutely wonderful. Anything written by Hofstadter was my jam in my 20s. I'm glad the internet brings people together. It's so easy to find other people into that kind of stuff too.
society is just stupid, geniuses seem weird and too forward. This is why alone time is good. This is why they have only 1 or 2 friends. Quality over quantity
I am with YOU too, too many fucking retards in this world, I am an INTJ VIRGO NOW, IF you go outside the US you will find real people, not these psychopathic lunatics
@@kh2716 yep, I think I was given an INFP/INTP personality. Actually, I’m not weird in public, people enjoy my company. But it drains me. Thus I need to recharge. Shortly, when I invest energy I dive too much into, and when I’m not interested I can’t feel nothing at all. Philosophy really helps with living. If interested check out Sugrue lectures. They are amazing.
@@temirlankasmaliev9322 Hi! Thanks for your response. Well, I am very similar to you. I am an INTJ and Type 8 w7 on Enneagram. I am not weird in public although I am weird I guess, if weird is different to most. I have a saying that 80% of humans are pointless, but I really mean 90% :-D Like you people drain me, I need a lot of lone time but that's default as I struggle to get the stimulation from others that my mind needs. Although People drain me, more recently I have realised that there are some people out there, that tend to be softer, intellectuals that share the same curiosity for questions that re-fill my cup of energy faster than being alone which is quite the revelation. It's just so difficult to find these people in the first place! Philosophy and psychology help me although the more I read and understand the more alone I feel. But I think in time I will come to enjoy the loneliness and I mean that. I will check out the lectures, thanks for the recommendation.
yes, from my life experience I would agree with that. I think curiosity is the driving force for many geniuses. They become obsessed with understanding something completely and put all of their energy into it. Also, I think they are gifted with intelligence that only a small percentage of people possess. It's those two things working in tandem that allow them to make important discoveries.
But you can't imitate them, because to imitate them you would have to be able to work out the problems they did. It would be a hard job imitating an extremely intelligent person well if you aren't already intelligent..
Eccentric is the common character I have found in geniuses. I think that trait is necessary to think outside the box enough to make great discoveries. This same trait can make them susceptible to being extremists or conspiracists.
Everything from pandemics to aliens have proven those "conspiracy theorists" (a phrase created by the U.S. government many decades ago to discredit anyone speaking out as "crazy") are often correct. The doubters owe us much more than just an apology. Some were driven legally insane just to cover the tracks. Imagine spending the rest of your life as an abused meat puppet in a facility that the idiotic public loves because they punish you for warning them, the entire situation only existing due to human ignorance and arrogance, the damage lasting long after you were proven correct.
I am a close observer of people from all walks of life and their behaviour. It also helps that I am a doctor. I've found that the most common trait of those we would label "geniuses" is imagination. You certainly don't have to be book smart. The smartest man I ever met in over 50 years was my cousin-in-law who could take apart and rebuild all kinds of engines, owned a phenomenally successful tool and die shop manufacturing all sorts of items on a mass basis for many large companies whose names everyone would instantly recognize. As we were very close with a mutual respect for what the other could do, while I knew that he dropped out of high school to start a family (being in midwest farmland) I was shocked when as he was dying from cancer he told me, rather ashamed, that he never learned to read. And I had always marveled at how he could construct complex iron exterior railings for steps leading up to a house, with complex changes in height and curvature. To this day I don't know how he could do such work. Imagination and being able to visual a complex construction through the minds eye in the empty space you look out into in front of you are the greatest gifts. Me? I just learned from texts and trial and error. I believe imagination to be the foremost and valuable trait to have.
Snoop Dogg here, and I ain't buyin' what you're sayin'. You think imagination is the key to genius? That's some straight-up BS. Genius ain't about imagination, it's about hard work and dedication. Ain't no substitute for puttin' in the hours and grindin' it out. You can have all the imagination in the world, but if you ain't willin' to put in the work, it ain't gonna mean nothin'. So don't try to sell me this fancy-pants idea that imagination is the key to genius. Ain't no shortcuts in this game.
@@snoop_official if hard work and dedication were the key to being a genius, then everybody could be a genius. Which unfortunately isn't the case. What you're saying inherently opposes the definition of genius
i would think that you're cousin in law never really participated in school, it was too conforming. But possibly he thought and worked things out for himself. My dad is similar. Patience and work, being open to possibilities. The stuff not taught in school
Complete focus on the task at hand, figuring out the issues and developing the strategy be it science based or design based is the key. Great things do not come from people who talk a lot. They come from people who think a lot, which means isolating yourself from distractions. Patience is another factor plus stamina to see it through.
I'm bipolar 1 with psychotic episodes, I play strings, paint, and score high on IQ test (even though IQ tests are becoming largely obsolete and meaningless). The overriding fearure for me is that focusing is extremely difficult
@@paulwilliams2663 Good luck, I hope there’s something that can extend your concentration even a little - since you’re creative I’m glad you’re able to accomplish some of it. A lot of creative types have various issues like depression, fear of success / fear of failure, and other challenges. I find it difficult to step in and out of such massively different states of mind. Creative altered state mode, and at other times having to deal with mundane things (which upsets, disgusts and bores me so badly I need recovery time afterward).
@AngelWings I'm at my best around hypomania, very productive, writing song, verse, etc. in minutes. Psychography, too, instantaneous poetry and prose, but as I move through hypomania towards mania, it becomes fragmented, disjointed then nonsensical. I can understand it, my treating psychiatrist at the time asked me to talk through the process as to how I arrived with the brain mess on paper, when I told him, we were in fits of laughter for a long time. Best of luck to you too.
@@shahrazadsaied4426 Yes, an average person does not analyze. An analysis you are required to gather data and then form an opinion, which is the exact oposite of how most of people function. Everybody is able to tell whether they like at hing. Very few people are able to properly interpret a graph. If you are able to look at a thing A, then a thing B and arrive at a conclusion C, you are a pretty special person. And the more abstract things you are able to conclude, the more special you are.
@@kofola9145 I'm rather surprised. Since my brain analyzes everything I thought all brains worked the same way. I started doing this before I was old enough to go to school. I will try to keep that in mind when dealing with other people.
The point of this video was to show that no one thing consistently distinguishes a geniuses from most people, other than the habit of solitude, and an intense work ethic, if you look at any individual one would call a genius whether of dance, music, science, or math they spent a considerable amount of time alone practicing and working with whatever there craft was: their medium for expressing their genius. It is not argued that these aren't intelligent people; however, is the valid explanation of their command of their domain in their intelligence, or in the fact that they could concentrate and spend hours on things that most individuals wouldn't care to spend any time focusing on, and not in some superficial and mindless way, but in a pain staking grueling manner, at times, day in and day out. Hence, "a Passion for the Abstract."
@@red-headedabigail5794 hmm I relate. although math and science DON'T exclusively determine smartness or intelligence. I am very intellectual I think deeply about various things often. But I lack motivation and honestly the desire to achieve anything in life. What's your mbti personality type? Look it up/ research it. I'm an INTP and learning about myself has been SOOOOOOO Enlightening !!!!!!
@@red-headedabigail5794 I always found Calculus Boring , but Algebra was always my thing , I think calculus doesn't need so much thinking , but rather how much did you memorize
It's sad when a healthy sense of curiosity (instead of being fear driven) and a sense of honesty and modesty is considered above average intelligence traits, instead of the norm. I blame our culture. Classes and tests require that we have to be "right" and we're so fear driven today we don't even let kids out to play.
Apparently the term "genius" in high school is defined as a Straight A student... There's a mere difference between "someone who's really proficient at math", "someone who works really hard to be proficient in Math", and "someone who works hard to be good in Math and forget the lessons after grades have been given".
Many geniuses not only didn't get A's, they despised school. It's probably more appropriate to call someone who gets straight A's a good parrot rather than a genius.
Recordium IV It doesn't matter if you get As in tests or exams... What matters is that you know what "genius" truly means and you broaden your perception regarding this matter. :)
Turtle Philosopher In his final acceptance speech, 3 time New York Teacher of the Year John Taylor Gatto resigned; stating that he was no longer willing to work for a system which is designed to dumb kids down. Schooling in general teaches one to be a mindless parrot/consumer/worker; not a thinker or intellectual revolutionary. This is one reason why great geniuses like Albert Einstein hated it. I suggest searching in RUclips for the most popular TED talk of all time by Sir Ken Robinson. It's entitled: "How Schools Kill Creativity"
Well, I wouldn't say retards, TheArnoldification, since not everyone is an English speaker. However, you're right, people are overestimating themselves by going so far as to call themselves "Geniuses"! However, these 'idiots' are actually rare, normal boyos think they're smart, but even they will not go as far as "genius".
Despite Feynman's brilliance, Issac Newton was on a different level from a genius standpoint in my opinion. He probably would have 20 Nobel Prizes if he was alive today.
Why? For discovering calculus? At the same time as someone else? He was at the right place at the right time to jot down the equations. It's just a tool. Do you know calculus? It's not hard to conjure...
@@cxxmax Newton's universal law of gravitation, laws of motion, optics, cooling just to name a few. And of course Calculus. His contributions form the basis of all modern physics.
'there is something in every one of you that waits and listens for the sound of the genuine in yourself. it is the only true guide you will ever have. and if you cannot hear it, you will all of your life spend days on the end of strings that somebody else pulls.' -Howard Thurman
You obviously don't Green. Actually i think that at least some of us understand the urge for some kind of lonely abstract thoughts like he talks about in the video. That doesn't mean we are geniuses, but it makes us feel good to know that people like Richard Feynman and Isaac Newton had that trait. Don't you think that it is possible that you, also, might have this trait, or some sort of variation of it? I'd think its pretty popular. Anyhow, no biggie. Its a matter of how we want to spend time, our brains are trainable, you know?
I always remember that "Malcom in the Middle" episode where he had a genius friend who was slightly younger. Malcom asked his genius friend what it was like to be a genius. He said it was like the mind was a buzzing bee, humming with life and activity. And that his mind was like thousands of these bees working in unison, while Malcom's mind was like one of those bees. lol
So your anecdote is a recounting of what Hollywood scriptwriters produced for a sitcom entertainment. But for you it is a valid comment on the subject at hand. Ya gotta love America.
When you think alone, and are always alone on purpose (not because u have to) you discover things that are very very interesting and they are so interesting that others want to take them from you.
Nah. Others don't even know what they're looking at. All intelligent people have seen the blank look, the signal to stop talking, you are over their head.
@@got2kittys Just depends on how much of a disparity in mental wavelength there is, if you will. If it's too much, it will be completely lost on one of lesser intelligence, but if it's not too great, then I feel like a truly intelligent person is capable of gauging it in a way that they can adapt their approach to conveying what they know and think in a way that the other person can at least grasp what they're getting at.
The ability to focus is definitely central to genius. I have a head injury that makes concentrating absolute hell because there's high pitched ringing and pain 24/7 in my head, my eyesight is awful and I'm partially deaf and schizophrenic. I wonder how smart I'd be without this problem all the time.
Sadly, everyone who watched this thinks that they are a creative genius. So I guess that , that instantaneously has made us all the same, and renders us as the boring soul we didn't think we were when we clicked this video.
signoguns Absolutely. And one thing I've found is that, anyone who is truly viewed as a genius in this world by the majority is NOT self proclaimed. It is not for themselves to define their intellect, but the people. For instance. Kayne west always call himself a genius but he seems like the furthest thing.
***** you really should pull your head OUT of your arse. It is helpful, not to have a stinking mind full of s#¡t! when TRYING to make sense of what you are so ignorantly discussing.
***** Who said anyone was relying on someone to pull coconuts form the trees? :) Do fish eat coconuts? Each animal prospers in its own domain, strikingly similar to the idea that we all have a special degree of intelligence higher than others, so much so that neither of us are more intelligent than one another :), we just encounter different paths, different opportunities, which may or may not allow us to express our genius.
One characteristic of geniuses, I think, is a feeling of isolation--a feeling that when they're communicating with others, they are imposters, dumbing down their thoughts so that the rest of us can understand. Thus, they have a lot of trouble communicating freely and openly. And, free open communication are fundamental to almost all human relations. This feeling of isolation no doubt leads to other character quirks. They may include introversion or they may manifest as a pretense of extroversion. Not that I would know...
***** I meant academically 'clever' - I know some people who are extremely knowledgable and practical who are, at the same time, very socially awkward. too much of one type of intelligence and not enough of the other...
Social retardation can boost up academic cleverness since the only reason why humans have so massive brains is to interact with each other. They simply redirect their cognitive powers. Every creative genius is basically an anomaly within human specie.
Julie Paterson yes and no - when not acting 'normal' results in a string of broken relationships with family friends and partners I'd say its a hindrance
SloveintzWend I agree. Social interactions can stifle all sorts of creativity and brilliance, because we place such importance on them, not because they actually achieve anything.
That extreme concentration he is talking about is basically "the zone" like how really good sports players get into a zone of concentration. It is almost like exercise, the more you work on it, the more it happens and as a result, it is easier to achieve. When I was younger and furiously teaching myself to program I could get so deep in the zone I would just pound out tons and tons of code, sleep a few hours, and then wake up and code more. The more immersed in it I was, the easier I slipped into it. Now its hard to get there because I have so many distractions. Adderall or similar is a good shortcut but it only gets you halfway there and no matter how much you immerse, you can never get fully into the zone with drugs.
Johnny Bravo It's like the zone times ten. Sit in a room for 3 days and write a symphony or solve a mathematical problem or come up with calculus (as Newton did).
I have read both these biographies and found them very interesting studies of the connection between personal trauma/angst and genius. I felt bad for Newton...rejected by his mother and not exactly embraced by schoolmates...isolated for sure, but drove him to fill his life with experimentation in many directions. I wonder if Leonardo DaVinci had personal angst going on as well...thank you for these great reads and others!
I think the best description was in the movie Amadeus. Saliari looked in astonishment at Mozart’s original works, without a single correction, as if it was already completed in his head. That is genius.
Too the genius early 19th century British Romantic poet John Keats penned each of his famous masterpiece Odes in about 20 minutes, having precomposed each entirely in his head.
True about Mozart, but Beethoven was also a genius, and he had to work very hard at his compositions before he was satisfied with them. His manuscripts are full of corrections.
Genius are often morally complex. Because of their capacity to concentrate and their realization of that, they often sees a things from different perspectives before conclusion. It's like disagreeing with yourself over and over, filling the slots that should and usually be filled be people (aka discussion) before finding a one concrete and well thought finish. Sure it's great for the abstract and logic, where there is only a straight forward answer. But for morals and ethics, especially if s/he is young, s/he will often answer from a logical perspective or play ignorant all together. Because of these things, I say. even as high as geniuses can go, they are indeed human, who cannot play God from beginning till the end of their chapters.
Yeah, many smart people fool themselves into thinking that they are a better person by merit of being intelligent. In reality a dumb and smart person can both be bad.
What I think is strange, is that no one in any of the comments below mentioned concentration. A few people quibbled about abstraction, a few made jokes, and others regaled in the stupidity of those comedians. It is doubtful that the entirety of what was said could be grasped, if they failed to note this pivotal characteristic. It was this ability to concentrate with intensity that forced them to be so alone. 66,448 people have seen the video at the time I am writing this message. The video was only 2:36 long. It fascinates me to see how many people are interested in this type of educational entertainment. Truthfully, I was also fascinated to see the variety of response from people that had taken the extra time and effort to produce some relic of what they had seen. Though, as I said, some were less than amusing.
He is talking about introversion. Introvert type tents to be a loner not because he is antisocial but because he is absorbed in his mind, the reality that we live is not enough so he enriched it with visions of his own
I'd hate to toot my own horn but my pulse raised when I read the description of introverts for me its exactly as you stated I'm glad to know I'm not alone in a sense. I've also realized that every introvert is his own type of introvert and are good at a specific form of genius within their chosen respective area or field they constantly theorize in their head. and the reality is I'm an introvert just to be a better extrovert so I have extrovert tendencies so although mainly an introvert I love talking to people as you can see lol so I'm technically an ambivert idk oh they're also commonly correlated/and or asscoiated with OCD and other like syndromes which god knows I have it bad! :) lol
I'm absolutely an Extrovert, but I constantly find myself a lone. I love human interaction, but often it is none stimulating and ill rewarding to the things that I value and am interested in. So I tend to be reclusive. Introverts may behave in an out going, and Extroverts may behave themselves in a reclusive manner. There are too many variables at play to label it to some one personality. He is clearly stating that among all the complexities of human psychology no one thing distinguishes genius in character other than the tendency for aloneness. Richard Feynman was no Introvert it's why he uses the example of Feynman and Newton to start, but this argument of Extroversion over Introversion leading to genius is silly. Loneliness means loneliness no matter if it's asperges, introversion, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, arrogance, enigmatic behavior, eccentricities, or whatever that drives one to be alone. You can not find a direct relationship to explicit personalities, because there is not direct observable correlation. Psychologically there is a better correlation to psychopathy and genius than introversion and genius. The only definite answer is they all spent time alone, who knows why, most likely "A Passion for Abstraction." for whatever reason.
Some people don't understand that realising ones potential isn't just a vanity thing but it is also a powerful way for a person to truly understand their emotions and behaviour.
Thought my way out of OCD one morning while sitting in a chair after I had struggled with it for 2 years. I have never applied that much concentration since then. Quite frankly that whole mental illness made me apathetic towards many things. If I could find the motivation and the will to really dig deep without preconceived notions filling my head, I am certain I could create great things. Maybe it is pure arrogance but I know the potential lies somewhere within. I think all of us have amazing potential to do extraordinary things but usually are content with the ordinary.
The coolest aspect of this video is, he gives two examples of “Geniuses” for us to examine and find guidance. No one likes complete isolation. Our brains are not broken. Our motivation can decrease depending on warmth. We are humans. So it’s important for socially “ struggling” ones, to examine the socially successful ones. Study them. Find the tangents they got to comedians or presidents. look what we are missing. Everything is a recipe. A key with little to zero directions can unlock any lock. If it can adapt to the wished task. That’s why these videos are great. Since it was fun to read through the debates I’d like to share my take: Judging openly is crossing borders. A form of abuse. It is to be questioned why people feel like “roasting” each other in platforms like these. Highly likely, that one who does so, doesn’t truly stand in awareness of why one is here. The lack of self awareness and self realization will probably lead to a toxic mixture that wants to over cross its own vessel. It’s 1930 central Europa mentality. Not aware of my full strengths. Knowing others got talent or even more talent. Let’s envade others. It happens for people who victimize others that they had been victims in similar ways. For that case I hope to raise awareness that the moment one leans over your boarders they are in unbalanced state and their opinion is to be seen like this. A demonstration of physical laws and a clear indicator that all humans create one big spectrum. Without the individuals who act this way maybe we would act more often this way. We can be grateful it’s not us to tell others they are stupid. “ I am a genius “ A self affirmation in this direction is prolly more beneficial than the other way around At moments of unbalanced self fulfillment image it may be beneficial to tell yourself anything you need to proceed. Before one tells others. I can understand the ones preaching how ever. People like Einstein or ones without social acknowledgement, would never say it out loud out of the Awareness of negative result. It would be seen as self hate to open up to an environment where Hornets would directly attack, That’s maybe somewhere then an way of saying “ hey I’ve been there , said I was a genius, I got crushed, don’t do it it happens to you too, so I’ll crush you to see “ Either way. The brain is deep and simple. The time we invest on something is clearly connected to our interest. Like others said, geniuses are humans. They can have flaws in grammar. They are to be seen like a lock with a diamond chamber behind it. Different colors and shapes like humans all have. By destroying one kind one destroyes oneself. Let’s play monopoly. If you’re able to win out of any person that’s when you’re happy. This is the game ones you’re bored try it not always easy
A father of a friend of mine was an astrophysicist. I saw him standing in front of his house one day staring at the ground. As I approached I noticed he was observing the wind going across a large mud puddle. He seemed embarrassed when I greeted him, because he jolted out of a trance like state and fumbled for words. I asked him what he was doing and he just laughed it off and said "Thinking...just thinking." I wish my teenage self would have gotten to know him better. He was a man of few words though.
It is true, it's not a single quality, but it's very true. Anyone that's ever changed anything learns the subject, but holds onto their intuitive ideals. If einstein was a conformist he would of rejected his own ideals and not presented general relativity, same for newton, eddie van halen, etc people who change the world don't do it through mental calculation, they do it with ideas, intuition and they hold onto their ideas.
So anyone who rebels has a higher chance of genius. I don't buy it. Any scientist that follows the scientific method bows to peer pressure. I think you're onto something. Free thinking? I'll give you that. Free thinkers are surely more intelligent.
GrimReapiN and thus you prove atheism does not increase intelligence. your entire point is pretty much, "So if a person adds extra letters to the English language that makes him more likely to be genius !? doesn't make sense!" his point was that in order to be a genius you also have to have the capacity to generally question preset systems of structure and Authority in order to develop a truly unique intellect. and living your entire life was such a capacity developed a very unique type of individual, a genius even. but because of the fact that your highest achievement of intellectual consideration and work was, "Atheism!" I doubt you understand.
I think he meant that individuality and nonconformity are usually necessary conditions for genius. They are not sufficient conditions for genius. If it was the latter, then it's surely wrong. I had a friend in high school that would stand up right in the middle of class and masturbate frantically for no reason. That's certainly nonconformist and he's certainly an individual. Where everyone else was bowing to peer pressure to stay sane, he stood erect as a beacon of rebellion. But come to think of it, his actions usually allowed him to get expelled from classes and yet he still passed all his exams and graduated.
To be a genius is so easy.... Being motivated by other genius... then focus on your field And make progress... People will recognise you as a genius...
He pretty much described like a majority of mathematicians. Not sure about all of their intensity for focus, but definitely an appreciation for abstraction.
To be a genius and be alone is to be in company of a mind beyond that which anyone can comprehend, I would rather study the unbelievable alone than waste my time trying to convince the masses of something they could never come to understand.
Usually when it's bed time for average people, it's the time i look forward to the most, i can go for a walk, or conduct what ever i need to do in peace and calm without people disturbing me, i go to bed when people usually get up in the morning, people that know me have a hard time understanding how i manage to function, it's simple really.
@@PrettyViibe Weekends sort of suck most of the time, streets are riddled with intoxicated people until early morning, so i typically head for the woods and set up a campfire and practice some bushcraft or i stay indoors, suppose i don't have it that bad since i live in a small town surrounded with wildlands.
Being a genius means you're fundamentally different than your peers. Finding a mate is difficult. I took the WISC-IV in the 3rd grade and was treated much differently after having obliterated the IQ test. It doesn't make me better than other people. I just feel different. I may look a certain way but the way I go about life is different. I'm a pretty shy person.
I always say that the real sign of a genius are those that can remain focused on a single "thing" for prolonged periods of time. Viewing it from varying perspectives, repetitively over time, remaining focused on finding a ___________. Now, whether or not they are using this focus for good or bad is another arguement entirely. Non the less, if you have an interest or apptitude for some"thing", and can go to places and levels others can not fathum on thier own, you have potential beyond your peer humans. And yes, this includes all types. (all 'smart' folks who may attack grammar or spelling, Pshhh)
Genius as a special category aside, growing up exceptionally bright and creative (unless you grow up in an environment full of equally bright, supportive and emotionally available loved ones) is an isolating experience-- I suspect more so before the internet. Even a modestly gifted person, with, say, an 20 IQ points above average, has probably grown up surrounded by people whom they eventually found were noticeably less intelligent. They may have interests and passions that arent widely shared by those around them. They might be ridiculed for their differences, depending on their social skills and environment. But even if they arent, it can be a lonely way to grow up. The greater the gap, the more powerful the potential effect. Growing up like that can have a damaging, isolating effect. It can make you arrogant, or misanthropic, or emotionally withdrawn or hesitant, or it can make you the kind of person who presents a dumbed down persona to the world to avoid hurting others or being rejected. The internet has made things different, you can now find peers and people who share your interests more easily, no matter who you are. Though, it can also mean a broader, more anonymous audience to reject outliers for being nerds, and a broader and apparently dumber hoi polloi to help foster arrogance and misanthropy 😞 I guess it would take a series of studies to find out whether highly creative and intelligent people who were born after, say, 1990 Feel less alone than those born before?
2:07 They all had • the ability to concentrate with a sort of intensity that is hard for mortals like me to grasp • a kind of passion for abstraction that doesn't lend itself to easy communication
a fish can't believe in anything since its brain is too underdeveloped to process complex thoughts, fish are purely instinctual animals and their brains are inherently small. I understood the message, but I wanted to point that illogicality out because it just…irritated me.
THANK YOU. I will seek "Genius". I've read several of his books on various scientific topics including his excellent Newton biogr. Excellent because it gave a very good sense of Newton's work, genius, and personality, but it wasnt 600 pp. long. Some biographies detail everything Which can be fine but the details seem not to contribute. I have "Surely You're Joking, Mr. F." which is great.
I'm pretty sure that solitary moments weren't a consequence of their genius, but rather, the means for which they facilitated a designated time to work. Their work is why we know them as geniuses.
I think we all have our moments of genius, but it usually involves lots of hard work and experience. I don't think we should limit the term genius to the pure academic either. There are many physical adepts who I would consider genius.
I really like your perspective. The moments of genius are very real. I see things differently though and I'd like to get your thoughts on mine. I believe there are only a few people who can't succeed without hard work and experience. When I think of genius, I think of someone who can cut through that and can perform almost any task with less effort than most. A moment of genius would be when you have a shift of perspective which allows you to see something you couldn't see before. However, genius isn't enough. You still need to work hard and experience to become skilled in something.
dwightfry99 Like many things, there is a dictionary definition and how we interpret that definition. Someone with a lack of knowledge or insight in to a subject may think someone a genius if meeting someone with that knowledge, but that's all relative. Put a genius outside his element and he doesn't seem much like a genius anymore, so does he lose his genius status? I was one of those kids in school who would pick up things with minimal effort, but I know enough to know I don't know jack. My strength is puzzle solving and not just the things we call puzzles. I can usually connect two things or ideas together like a detective or an engineer. I wouldn't say I'm very speedy in the process because I like to consider all the possibilities before coming up with a preferred connection. Perhaps a genius can do that with minimal effort and great speed, but if we both get there does that make me any less a genius? So, for most of us, we have our expertise and moments of genius. Genius is perhaps an overused term and in the end doesn't really mean much other than to separate someone from another group. I'd like to think we're all genius' in our own way.
Chris Randall I think speed is overrated. its best to take your time to make sure there are no mistakes. Plus some people are easily distracted by other thoughts during the process of solving something.
Consistency is the key. Success does not just come from talent or luck. People who build excellent habits in their lives achieve consistent success that builds up overtime. Everybody has incredible potential in many fields. How many people actually achieve their highest potential?
I'd argue that the one trait they share is diligence. Diligence to a particular problem or sets of problems. Einstein even admits this. I would again argue that Einstein being one of the foremost examples of diligence, to the day he died.
I wouldn't say that diligence is a trait that all geniuses share, it's a trait that successful people share. The geniuses that come to mind and are recognized for their brilliance are the ones that manage to accomplish something profound within their field(s), which in large part is due to character traits like diligence, perseverance, focus, and discipline. There are scores of geniuses without these traits who never come to mind for this exact reason.
Everest Witman One that does come to mind is Da Vinci. Someone who worked on numerous projects for short periods of time, only to abandon them. Da Vinci said at the end of his life, how he was disappointed in himself for never being able to finish anything.
A lot of people believe what make people smart is someones GPA level or how well they did on a test. The fact that they're a mathematician or not. Or how well a person did in college. Not to say you're not smart, but honestly you could drop out of college and still be more comparable to Einstein than someone who's the top of the class. Why? Because of a persons perception and experiences. People take information in differently. Process it differently. Not everyone has the same type of brain. Some brains are a little more complex, and some people just don't have the motivation to learn. They don't see the point. When I was in high school I passed by having a 1.7 GPA. Low as fuck compared to most, but this is because I didn't care. Yet in college I passed with a 3.16. I cared to learn a little more. I started to process things differently as I grew older. I like how he talks about abstract thinking. A lot of this is true for geniuses. Tesla was known partially as a mad scientist and yet by todays standards we know he was well beyond his time. You think that a thousand years ago the idea of flight was even conceivable? Fuck no. Yet today its as common as walking your dog. We look at people and we see their faults. Oh he/she's a bad speller so he/she can't be smart. Or he/she doesn't understand the ideas as well as the other kids in the class so he/she must be slow. This isn't always the case. Talking about Einstein. The man believe it or not wasn't always the best in math when was younger, but this is because his brain was telling him other ways of solving a problem that the teachers just could not understand. He eventually made up his own equations. The rest is history. So just remember. Just because you happen to have it easier than someone else in class doesn't make them stupid. It just means they're having a tougher time. They may even have a more complex brain than you do.
+Onizuma13 GPA can depend on both effort and intelligence, it's true that you don't HAVE to be smart to get a high GPA (not like school is designed for true 'intelligence'), you just have to try. What sets the smart people apart is that it probably takes them either less effort to produce very strong results, or they understand things much more in depth than the rest of the class. Then there's the people who just know how to work the system, which may or may not mean they're intelligent.
+Onizuma13 _"You think that a thousand years ago the idea of flight was even conceivable? Fuck no."_ Conceivable? Sure. Google "Icarus". This may come across as an amazing idea to you, but ancient people just had to look at birds to realize that it was possible to fly. _"Not to say you're not smart, but honestly you could drop out of college and still be more comparable to Einstein than someone who's the top of the class."_ Sure, if said person simply didn't give a flying fuck about his grades. However, you should agree that you'd be a complete moron if you were an employer and needed a really clever guy and ending up hiring a fresh college dropout in place of a proven mathematician with 180 IQ. _"Why? Because of a persons perception and experiences."_ No. The very point of intelligence is that it's a form of general problem solving ability. Someone who's smart will surpass someone who is less smart very quickly even if the less smart person has had a ton of time to practice in advance, and the other way around, someone who's less smart will reach his level of incompetence quicker. _"People take information in differently. Process it differently."_ That's right. And "different" doesn't necessarily mean "equally well". The most straight forward way to get some information about how well people can learn is to find some way of measuring their performance, which you, for some strange reason, appear to be violently opposed to. _"Not everyone has the same type of brain. Some brains are a little more complex"_ Sure... some brains are "a little more complex" indeed. What on earth does that mean? _"and some people just don't have the motivation to learn. They don't see the point."_ If you don't give enough of a fuck about a topic to even bother attempting to learn it, then I'm happy to agree with you that intelligence is irrelevant, but I fail to see how that's something that will be an issue often. Generally, when I don't give a shit about something I try to avoid it altogether.
after a few days alone with a project, ideas become faster, progress becomes faster. There are no distractions, and one will sit with a problem, forgetting to eat and drink, until it gets done.
Geniuses believed they were geniuses. He's so right that character traits just are what they are, intelligence is intelligence, creativity is creativity, genius is genius, focus is focus.
I don't in any way consider myself a genius, but when I'm composing music, I feel most in my element when I'm alone. I become a bit of a perfectionist and overly critical, and it's extremely easy for me to critique every tone, instrument, etc until it's as close to right as possible. However, I love to teach, yet find myself unable to fully concentrate or "go there" in the presence of others unless I'm collaborating. And this is different still than the feeling when performing. I feel I do best when I get lost in the music and the metacognition kicks in.
He's not pretending to be a genius ; he's testifying about creativity in relation to being alone or not. Find better use of your bitterness, you'll be welcomed.
i don't know if I'm late to comment but the more i learn about myself the more i realize how hopeless i am,i kept perusing myself to understand other people mindsets because i struggled to understand how they think,i mean i do get along well with friends but they'd usually say that the way i communicate is very me,it's different and they find it amusing,basically my best friends does not even understand me and most of the time it's just me trying to know them. i just wanted to find someone who literally understands what am i trying to convey without faking it to sound smartass but even the smartest friends in my school doesn't even understands me,no one actually,just my parents but what if they are gone will i be alone? idfk sometimes thoughts are so conflicting,when i started to see worth in myself i was shut down by others who i saw was better than me at something, even tho i've never met a person who can do everything like me irl.All i think of myself is just ordinary but others kept telling me i'm a genius,i'm gifted. i'm confused because i have never done any big achievement and all my questions and doubts were laughed at at school.Well i have no idea if i'm actually a genius but what i know is that i will never find someone who would understand me and even if there's another person like me i met,i doubt if they'd even be like me,geniuses might not even understands eachother sometimes and it's an even harder task to find one.
spineshivers Or because they are thinking about things that nobody else is. I figure that could be pretty lonely. You are the classic if I can't do it then nobody can example. There are no limits only time spineshivers.
The common trait is actually the confusion of why everyone does what they do and do not see it is pure vanity I would say. but that statement would be hard to understand unless one was like we are.
Actually geniuses understand other people very well; some just tend to play along while other point out the stupidity in it. The ones who play along are what you are referring to as heightened ability in a separate area. By logical deduction you are definitely not a genius.
Abhishek Sehgal You do know what I am saying, do you not? The efforts that normal people place forth, for tasks of pure pointlessness and vanity is a very confusing place for any genius, sure we understand why they do it better than anyone, But that is not true understanding of it.
Harder than seeing what's wrong with others is seeing what would be right. I suspect many geniuses are perfectionists who can't settle for a mindset they can't help but continually criticize.
Hello 'genius' Jonathan? Let's put aside the self ascribed arrogance okay... Where are your awards? Do something cool with that 'genius' of yours or fuck off and stop standing on that pedestal, it's not for you.
Everyone is a genius. We let life hide our genius. We need to recognize the genius in ourselves before we can recognize it in others. We put limitations on ourselves as shown in this video.
I have Aspergers and a high IQ. I’m RUBBISH with people but absolutely love learning about physics and I teach myself to play instruments. It’s taken a long time but I’m slowly starting to understand myself 👌🏽
Wow so open and sweet, learning is easy if you have a passion and interest in that subject, and if you are very very intelligent, it must be cool that it is so effortless for you,I don't think u are rubbish with people, u learn that most people are rubbish,
I think this is right. I think it's a matter of having the focus and memory to be able to hold many different abstractions and their connections together in your mind's eye at once. And then having the creative power (with the combination of focus and memory) to manipulate the ideas in real time.
Due to the fact that nearly all social interaction is based in emotion, rather than logic, it can be very difficult for rational people to become social butterflies.
The most genius ones don't accept they are infact way more intelligent than the others, which is the core driving cause for them to do more. Their thirst for success is way beyond a normal human's threshold, yet their simplicity way lower than the normal ones.
Whenever I read biographies of geniuses and their personality and traits are described I just generally feel like they all, or at least most, had Aspergers.
Thijs van Gisbergen It's not bad to have Aspergers, I rather feel people should be proud about it. It is a shame that society has such trouble accepting something which is not like the standard, however. And let's agree, at least, that we both hope for a more open society where not everyone is expected to work and feel the same way. I do not have an issue with Aspergers as a label, however. As I said, why not be proud instead?
Richard Feynman absolutely in no uncertain terms had Asperger's, and I haven't the slightest clue why people, not saying that you are in particular, try to diagnose him with it, this takes away credence from people who actually did probably have Asperger's. If you point out that he was highly sociable, and had an ability to empathize with others point of view better than anyone I've ever met, charm his way out of a myriad of situations, and people say well that was the incredibly high intellect that allowed him to seduce women. Yes because clearly it was Beethoven's lack of intellect that kept him from seducing women. Here's the deal, genius if there is such a thing, needs at minimum a tenthousand hours of cultivation, and to do that in most cases you need time to yourself, so you have to not mind/enjoy time to yourself, tack on a certain level of obsession, then you have the traits needed for crafting world class excellence in any discipline. that being said, people that are world class can seem as if they have asperger's when they really don't, because people with asperger's have an advantage since they have the character traits of repetition, tendency for obsessing, a certain aversion of people, character traits that lends themselves to brilliance. I dunno I just like to think that Feynman was just a regular guy with a slightly higher iq, that became the greatest physicist america has produced, in the american way, not through being gifted or anything, but through sheer work and ferocious passion for learning. I'd always much rather win despite of a thing rather than because of a thing. see for me I've always been called gifted or whatever, and I think its insulting if you actually think about it, people steal away all your hard work and give the credit to your accomplishments to some outside power, as if you won a raffle that they didn't, its garbage.
mycollegeshirt I don't think he had Aspergers. But I will say this: I sincerely dislike when people without Aspergers say that it would be anything bad with the diagnosis. It's offensive, it really is. You're not in the position to say if people should have a diagnosis or not. No matter if you think it's good pr bad, you really have no place to speak for this minority. As a part of this minority, I can assure you that we are very proud indeed to be Aspergers and we do not like when people without it talk about the irrelevance of diagnosis. We are not like you, and that is not limited to silly social stuff that Wikipedia and such list. We are a people. and we are different from you. And we are proud of that fact. So do not ever tell any of us that our labels are not needed, because we are different from you, and that's a fact, and we're proud of it. Not ashamed at all. The only thing that causes issues is the society based around people that does not share our genetic composition.
Thijs van Gisbergen Are you going for an olympic medal in strawmanning, or what's up here? "Funny, when you get a diagnosis, you and your psychologe guy/girl and yourself may think totally different things. so what are you saying that People who 'have' aspergers are a minority when you even cannot compare people?" If you don't know what Aspergers is and you are interested in knowing what the physical differences are in the brain and so forth I do highly encourage you to educate yourself in the matter. If your point is to question Aspergers without even knowing what it is, then I must sadly say that I am not interested in having that conversation. I would like you to check out the basic differences in the neurology and hormones, to start out with, otherwise the conversation will be extremely pointless. And yes, we think differently. That doesn't mean we think different things. Do not confuse those statements as they mean two completely different things. How our brain works is different. Visual and sounds inputs for an example, and how they are then handled and processed by the brain. This is a different way of thinking, not thinking about different THINGS. "BUT WHO IS WE? if you can point out everyone who has it. NO you cant. Caused by evolutionary difference, randomness. It's silly," Yes, we actually can. As I said, some basic understanding of what Aspergers is would probably be a good idea. "It's silly, There are less smart people in the world because they are not social, or something like that. And because of this, they become rejects of society. Rejects are not in the right circumstance to have babies and stuff." If you want to talk about people being social or not I advice you do it with the guy who wanted to talk about the social aspects. I haven't mentioned it at all. "And fenotype is what people get into during their lives, so even 'social' people could end up in minority, caused by thing happened in their lives. So again, everything is too random. It is not easy to accept, but if you believe in evolution, it is true." And then you keep on ranting about the social stuff, which is a bit weird. Being social or not is a personality trait. Aspergers is not a personality trait, and everyone who assumes that someone with Aspergers is social or not, is horribly uneducated on the subject. "Aspergers is something we made up, as for any mental 'disease'. Why?" Aspergers is not a mental disease and your claim that it would be if offensive and uneducated. As I said: At least learn the basics. The conversation is pointless otherwise. "You need like 1000 people, random chosen, run into diagnose, who are telling the truth completely with no glitch of their own brain, no glitch in the diagnosis system. Than, if you would be able to do this impossible task, you could perhaps see how many people are different from each other, and people who might resemble to each other." And now I'm not even sure who you're talking to anymore as no one in this thread what so ever has at any point claimed that people are the same. Of course people are different. In many, many ways indeed. "You can be the best in tennis, sure, But you can not be the best in being social. The best in being normal. It is simply to random." And then you talk about being social again, which, I repeat: I have never even mentioned. Are you talking to some imaginary friend, perhaps? Are they the ones you are responding? Look, if you're going to have a conversation with someone, at least try to make an effort to respond to what they have actually said. You went on a long rant about things I have never brought up as being part of Aspergers at all. If you would have at any point, asked me what I think about Aspergers and the social aspects however (which would have been the normal thing to do) I would have responded that how social someone is or isn't is highly IRRELEVANT to an Aspergers diagnosis. How social you are is a personality trait, that personality trait can be based on a lot of things, and everyone can be social or not no matter what. I, for example, am a very social person and work in a field which require a high empathy and high understanding of people. This is something which surprises people a lot, as they suffer from the faulty notion that people with Aspergers would be less social by default. This is entirely untrue. Our brains works differently, and sometimes that can be the product, but so can other things in anyone's lives. However, maybe you don't care about big physical differences which means we respond to medication significantly differently than you, that we respond significantly different to drugs than you, that we hear sounds in another way than you do and that our visual thinking works in a completely other way. Maybe you don't care that the environments we thrive in are so different from most (with some exceptions there, I will admit) Maybe you don't care that a light touch on our arm can hurt just as much as putting your hand on an on turned stove because our nerves are different. Maybe you don't care that our seratonine behaves and travels in a completely different way in our brains. Maybe you don't care that our brains works over 40% better than yours do when we focus, as we are very efficient in turning off other senses when do. Maybe you don't care that our concentration of gray and white matter in our brains are different from yours. But I can assure you that we care about these differences, because our wants and needs in life, are different as a result from it. Are we all the same? No, because something called neurodiversity and personalities exist, and they exist among everyone. But that doesn't mean that there's no such thing as Aspergers. There is, and if you are interested in finding out more, then go an do so.
The other major difference between Newton and Feynman was about 70 IQ points. Newton had an IQ score of approximately 200 whereas Feynman’s was about 130. This would explain the differences in their personalities as Feynman would find socializing with “common folk” much easier than Newton since he was much closer to them intellectually.
There is no way Feynman had an iq of 130. I have an IQ of nearly 140 and I’m dumb as toast. If his IQ was seriously that low then he must have had the most insane work ethic on the planet. But I doubt it.
I honestly thought that when he made the comparison, you can't place Feynman in the ballpark as Newton when it comes to IQ. Newton had an IQ over 200. One in billions of people.
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He forgot the most important : an abnormal level of critical thinking and patience. There is a quote attributed to Einstein (not sure if he actually said it but it would make sense) "I am not more clever I just sit longer with a problem".
I love that. Timing is everything. We are all on control of the most powerful computer on the planet, yet most of us ignore it and become stagnant in the trivial mundane day to day tasks.
Oh yeah explains why I'm ALWAYS in my head and searching endlessly for answers but it brings me the most profound insight and understanding into life. People think I'm so smart and have my shit together but really I just take the liberty to think more.
I think Einstein had a good point, tho he downplayed his immense creative ability. Genius is a sort of obsession to solve a problem.
In Gleick's biography of Feynman someone states that Feynman was someone who really thought deeply about things.
Not all intelligent people are wise ! Wisdom is the key for me.
My grandpa grew up very poor in Mexico with very little education. However, when he worked at a mine for some time, some Americans were so impressed by the inventions he made to streamline his work, that they wanted to bring him to the US to have him study engineering and work for them. I feel that he was a genius that didn't receive the nurturing necessary to bloom properly.
“I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.”
@@leoN13312 who said this?
@@karleenespinal2243 Stephen Jay Gould
The greatest minds walk amongst you
What’s the name of your grandpa ?
"A kind of passion for abstraction that doesn't lend itself to easy communication" - Beautifully put!
Not only beautifully put, but also exactly true
@@sonicmaths8285 I believe that it stems from a precision of thought that exceeds the precision of language.
I have come to believe that the passion for the abstract finds it's culmination in a wholehearted search for the divine.
The most common trait of a genius is that they're usually more intelligent than everyone else.
"usually"...right....
honest answer
Thats stating the obvious. The video was about characterising the experience of being very intelligent.
Dude after this observation you just made you must be one of these geniuses
@@shorx9199 RICHARD FEYNMAN said 'he was just hard woking' and everyone else thought he was genius .
EINSTEIN said- he was more curious than others.
SO ,
genius = (curiosity + hard work)
A passion for abstraction. Wow, that pretty much sums it up. There's a quote, "small minds discuss people, mediocre minds discuss events, great minds discuss ideas".
Ideas always the best foundation for conversation
Things that had to do with aloneness. See, loneliness isn't a problem. It's an *opportunity.* Come on, argue me.
I must have a god mind. Most of my ideas are about people 😨
Eleanor Roosevelt
Well I wanna discuss like a million of ideas coming up on my mind but the problem is no one gets it they all talk about silly school controversies, that I never find interesting and they are very dominated by celebs that is something I never get. When i discuss idea they are all like ''idk'' ''that's a bit boring'' "OKAY u crazy thinking of that'' I always end up feeling lonely mostlythey are annoying friend, mostly I try to fit in that's it. And always find string to ideas or end up connecting dot up in my head till I get a decent outcome.
the more you learn, the more you realize how little you know.
This is true, I thought I know a lot of things when I was 16, politics, history, science, philosophy, logic, but it all changed when I was 17, My world view shifted, I felt enlightened, I feel like I know more than the average person......then I turned 18, my pool of knowledge is just a spec, I know so little and I have alot more to learn.
@@SignificantPressure100 do you receive some sort of encyclopedia on your birthdays?😆
PARADOX he’s not aging, he’s leveling up
The less you see there is to learn, the more scary it gets because you know there is a lot out there to be discovered yet
within the mystery of the unknown
@@timewalker6654 theirs the internet now
Geniuses don't want to be alone. They aren't default introverts. It just happens because nobody really understands them. Imagine you are the only human on earth surrounded by dogs. Dogs make good company but the conversations will be wanting. They aren't going to understand half the things you do and half the things you say. It's that kind of loneliness.
I wonder why scientology asks its members if they ever had beastiality with dogs on its application form
You are the first person in the comment section to understand the loneliness of genius.
Only genius, I suspect, would know the down side of genius.
I was identified as a genius at a very young age.
When I took a test to see how far into genius mode I was when I was 18 I was horrified to be deemed smarter than Einstein.
In my mind, "how am I ever going to find a mate that is similar to me" rang through my head like a statement of self torture.
Genius means rarity. Being the anomaly is never great. Even in grade one I would never tell the teachers all the details that were in my head. "They" don't have the ability to understand.
I live in a world run by idiots. The more you can see, the more you see that other humans are operating with very limited and often untruthful data.
So, you see, you are not alone.
There are other geniuses in this world; however, telling the truth is a dangerous endeavour in a world run by professional liars.
Inventing things and telling the truth can get you killed.
In a world where virtually every human on this planet is so stupid that they are easy to lie to has lead this world to be controlled by professional liars.
Stay safe, and remember, the media was set up by those that have the most to lose, truth is their enemy.
@@Skyborn- very interesting. At the end you mean that thr media is an important part of society and there are people trying to destroy it? And also is the media actually about to get wiped out. Sorry if these are very dumb questions
@@Skyborn- I think you'll find like-minded people at r/iamverysmart :)
@@Skyborn- Humans are naive not viscerally dumb.
I think this was the simplest and truest commonality between geniuses. That aloneness, I think, is due to the fact that you can’t communicate your abstract thoughts as well you intend to to others, I think that’s what drives geniuses to try and express these abstract thoughts in equations-Einstein; paintings-da Vinci; tunes-Mozart, even words- Shakespeare. They don’t work well with others or go to others with their thoughts because they won’t understand, their expressions convey their abstract thoughts and can lead them into better understanding of those thoughts in a way no other person could, not even a fellow genius (subject to his own abstract thoughts and biases)
Snoop Dogg ain't about that genius life, dawg. I don't know about all them geniuses, but I know I ain't never had no problems communicating my thoughts to others. Maybe them geniuses just ain't had the right crew to roll with, you feel me? Abstract thoughts ain't no thang, I can express myself just fine through my rhymes and flow. Don't need no fancy equations or paintings to get my point across. Gonna keep it real, dawg.
@@snoop_official STOP SMOKING REEFER!
Interesting take. I'd thought he was more talking about 'aloneness' rather than 'loneliness'. The former being a state in which one can focus intensely on developing an idea/ design/ artwork/etc, without the intrusions of others breaking the mental "flow", the latter being a state of discomfort brought about by an unfulfilled need for company and connection.
Mozart and Shakespeare were very gregarious, loved sex and socialising. Maybe science and art geniuses are of necessity different.
Many things -- Da Vinci*, actually
The more complex the thoughts, the more intricate the picture, the harder to communicate and display to people
And hence the feeling of being alone for not being able to easily explain what you're working on or what you're about to discover.
it's a lonely experience
Dam Ned you can’t determine somebody’s intelligence based on their ability to communicate.
Trying to explain everything complex is when the "craziness" and "insanity" thoughts begin in their minds about you lol such LAZY people, all they are!
Like alex jones 😂🤣
He forgot the most glaring commonality between Newton and Feynman. That being the fact that neither of them even lifted.
that is funny observation and a good point that is noted
CanditoTrainingHQ jonny mah boii. do you even stil lift anymore or what goo
They all walked long distances. Their Cardio owned
haha this is GOLD
lmfao
Just remember you don't need to be a genius to be a great person. or even to go down in the history books.
Nor do you need a life worthy of the history books of the future to have a fulfilling life.
@@bustingdogarchive4240 Very true
@@bustingdogarchive4240 Unless it is glory that you seek
Your fundamental flaw is believing works of fiction written by the winners of wars to be actual History. Next up...why it doesn't matter if you believe you'll be remembered or not. You won't be for long 👍
@@bustingdogarchive4240 Debatable. You can certainly remain content with a life like that, but it is a choice you consciously make. To each their own.
I feel inteligent people are more prone to depression. They just naturally known more and cannot accept a false reality. They need the truth and the truth is almost always bitter.
Also, when you are that informed, that smart, that curious, that ambitious, etc. it doesn’t leave a lot of people in the world with which to enjoy socializing. People start to seem simple, benign, and boring. It must be a very lonely and frustrating existence.
how would you define truth ?how do you know you experiencing reality is truth ?maybe the dream is real ?
I'm pretty sure this is a psychological effect? It's called the dunning-kreuger effect, and it's this thing where a smart person lacks confidence because they know so much but they're aware that they don't know much in the grand scheme, while a not-so-smart person has confidence because they're ignorant.
Wrong
yeah, no. Many brilliant ppl accept false reality, if it is in fashion. IQ doesn't trump psychology.
Three things make a genius
1) Independent Thinker (isn't afraid to break the mold)
2) An Unbroken Concentration Toward Something
3) Excels in Abstract and Creative thinking
Pretty much me lmao.
3) Doesn't waste precious time doing meaningless things (like commenting on stupid videos)
TheAlecnemcova Lol never said I was a genius. But if you wanted to become a "genius" I would assume that would be how.
Btw there was already a 3) genius.
Curiousnessify 4) Be Fabulous
One thing that makes a genius.
1) Do something special.
Geniuses learn, retain, and synthesize information on a deeper level than most people. They represent a small group. And they can use what they know to advance human knowledge, create artistic masterpieces, or make medical discoveries or scientific inventions & advancements.
I'm surprised to not see curiosity as the main subject here. Aside from being smart, what I've observed about these characters is simply a love of learning about a particular subject. Curiosity. It's what allows you to create that unbroken concentration. If you don't have it then concentration is a battle you constantly are fatigued by. If you do have it, you are energized by everything you discover about your subject. They follow their bliss as Joseph Campbell would say.
Soo true and to be honest I see this in myself lol, humble brag
Curiosity is just a natural human trait. It's evolved for our survival.
A passion for abstraction is a more accurate description as well as an immense ability to concentrate is. This is the essence, while curiosity is more of a consequence of those things - a side product
0:11 thats because Genius is not a character trait. its a function and ability that everyone utilizes on different scales every day. its our social competitive impulse that has given rise to the myth that Genius is a superpower rather than a wonderous thing that connects all of us. thx again 20cent
Absolutely wrong
@@redefinedliving5974indeed.
my advice would be to stay away from popular culture. Follow your own likes and in there you will find your greatest intelligence! Henry David Thoreau said it best, "if a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. let him step to the music that he hears however measured or far away."
***** You're just complicated!
Never marrying could be a sign of intelligence if you have found women to be as stress inducing as I have... but intelligence comes in many forms and some of the smartest people I know lack social skills plus the desire to have social approval, this combination means they tend to have just a few close friends and are selective about who they are. Marching to the beat of your own drum, and not following the herd is a sign of backbone, and to be creative requires taking chances and making your own mistakes. That's maybe why Feynman was so brilliant, he was very creative and willing to throw away conventional thinking while at the same time he was practical enough to envision the constraints of reality and how they limit what could be true and false.
Groups always find the lowest common denominator. Your friends dumb you down and geniuses know it. Only if you refuse to be defined by others can you reach full potential.
Mihaly knowing and following yourself gives you personal authority over the direction of your interests. that develops inherent strength.
MrDavidhillman you started off so dumb bashing women that all.i am going to do with your post is this answrt. whatevee else you say is grounded in your broken heart.
I are a genius. I can retaliate to this.
yet you dont even know basic english grammar
***** Thank you.. you saved me typing. My Indian buddies, due the language tend to take word play too literal to get certain jokes.
Correcting Natalie's grammar was a stupid point. Natalie didn't claim to be a genius. (Which disqualifies everyone from genius status who thought it was a good point.) Anyway, I got the original joke, but my comment is aside from that.
***** lmao seriously ? those arent even grammar mistakes smartass... almost nobody writes with capital letters and perfect punctuation..where do you think you are? at harvard?
natalie shinobi SMH....
"The ability to concentrate with a sort of intensity that is hard for mortals like me to grasp, a kind of passion for abstraction that doesn't lend itself towards easy communication..."
Oh man, meta-cognition, the study of intelligence itself, meta-learning, and the like, are absolutely wonderful. Anything written by Hofstadter was my jam in my 20s. I'm glad the internet brings people together. It's so easy to find other people into that kind of stuff too.
Sephiroth
@@Danielle_1234 wow good for you.
You lost me at 'The ability to concentrate'..
Sadhu sadhu
society is just stupid, geniuses seem weird and too forward. This is why alone time is good. This is why they have only 1 or 2 friends. Quality over quantity
I am with YOU too, too many fucking retards in this world, I am an INTJ VIRGO
NOW, IF you go outside the US you will find real people, not these psychopathic lunatics
*PERIOD.*
Temirlan, have you ever done a personality test? I suspect you are similar to me, Introverted, Introspective thinker.
@@kh2716 yep, I think I was given an INFP/INTP personality. Actually, I’m not weird in public, people enjoy my company. But it drains me. Thus I need to recharge. Shortly, when I invest energy I dive too much into, and when I’m not interested I can’t feel nothing at all. Philosophy really helps with living. If interested check out Sugrue lectures. They are amazing.
@@temirlankasmaliev9322 Hi! Thanks for your response. Well, I am very similar to you. I am an INTJ and Type 8 w7 on Enneagram. I am not weird in public although I am weird I guess, if weird is different to most. I have a saying that 80% of humans are pointless, but I really mean 90% :-D Like you people drain me, I need a lot of lone time but that's default as I struggle to get the stimulation from others that my mind needs. Although People drain me, more recently I have realised that there are some people out there, that tend to be softer, intellectuals that share the same curiosity for questions that re-fill my cup of energy faster than being alone which is quite the revelation. It's just so difficult to find these people in the first place! Philosophy and psychology help me although the more I read and understand the more alone I feel. But I think in time I will come to enjoy the loneliness and I mean that. I will check out the lectures, thanks for the recommendation.
yes, from my life experience I would agree with that. I think curiosity is the driving force for many geniuses. They become obsessed with understanding something completely and put all of their energy into it. Also, I think they are gifted with intelligence that only a small percentage of people possess. It's those two things working in tandem that allow them to make important discoveries.
I like it but maybe a person is just on a spiritual path that some don’t understand
@@scottwyckoff5483 exactly
Bruh didn't watch the video.
@@scottwyckoff5483and that's okay 👍👌🙏
I agree 😊
Disclaimer: imitiating these wont make you a genius.
fake it till you make it
türk müsün
Dammit
But you can't imitate them, because to imitate them you would have to be able to work out the problems they did. It would be a hard job imitating an extremely intelligent person well if you aren't already intelligent..
Yeah. You just gotta be a psychopath is all
It takes the smartest individuals to realize there is always more to learn.
Agnostic Libertarian EXACTLY.
the problem with the world is that the stupid are cocksure but the intelligent are full of doubt
No it doesn't
looks like you're not one of those people.
If I'm not one of those people, then how did I realize there is always more to learn? Just proved you wrong, bud.
Eccentric is the common character I have found in geniuses. I think that trait is necessary to think outside the box enough to make great discoveries. This same trait can make them susceptible to being extremists or conspiracists.
like Ted Kaczynski aka Unabomber
@@vibovitold He just died
@@vibovitold everything he said was true, it was his actions that were insane.
Everything from pandemics to aliens have proven those "conspiracy theorists" (a phrase created by the U.S. government many decades ago to discredit anyone speaking out as "crazy") are often correct.
The doubters owe us much more than just an apology.
Some were driven legally insane just to cover the tracks. Imagine spending the rest of your life as an abused meat puppet in a facility that the idiotic public loves because they punish you for warning them, the entire situation only existing due to human ignorance and arrogance, the damage lasting long after you were proven correct.
because a lot of conspiracies are true
I wonder how many people clicked on this video to see if the described traits matched their own.
Crosby4hyg Yep! I'm a special snowflake who came here!
Almost everyone. What other reason would there be to click a video titled that way?
so basically this is a very succesfull clickbait title
I just wanted to see all the edgy kids calling themselves geniuses in the comments ;)
Feuerbringer -Your CHILDREN!!!
I am a close observer of people from all walks of life and their behaviour. It also helps that I am a doctor. I've found that the most common trait of those we would label "geniuses" is imagination. You certainly don't have to be book smart. The smartest man I ever met in over 50 years was my cousin-in-law who could take apart and rebuild all kinds of engines, owned a phenomenally successful tool and die shop manufacturing all sorts of items on a mass basis for many large companies whose names everyone would instantly recognize. As we were very close with a mutual respect for what the other could do, while I knew that he dropped out of high school to start a family (being in midwest farmland) I was shocked when as he was dying from cancer he told me, rather ashamed, that he never learned to read. And I had always marveled at how he could construct complex iron exterior railings for steps leading up to a house, with complex changes in height and curvature. To this day I don't know how he could do such work. Imagination and being able to visual a complex construction through the minds eye in the empty space you look out into in front of you are the greatest gifts. Me? I just learned from texts and trial and error. I believe
imagination to be the foremost and valuable trait to have.
Snoop Dogg here, and I ain't buyin' what you're sayin'. You think imagination is the key to genius? That's some straight-up BS. Genius ain't about imagination, it's about hard work and dedication. Ain't no substitute for puttin' in the hours and grindin' it out. You can have all the imagination in the world, but if you ain't willin' to put in the work, it ain't gonna mean nothin'. So don't try to sell me this fancy-pants idea that imagination is the key to genius. Ain't no shortcuts in this game.
@@snoop_official if hard work and dedication were the key to being a genius, then everybody could be a genius. Which unfortunately isn't the case. What you're saying inherently opposes the definition of genius
very well said sir. how would you say to the correlation of genius and aloneness?
i would think that you're cousin in law never really participated in school, it was too conforming. But possibly he thought and worked things out for himself. My dad is similar.
Patience and work, being open to possibilities. The stuff not taught in school
@@bobomac8330 Couldn't have put it better myself.
hes right. As a geenyus I can attest to this
+Joe Roz wtf dude?
+Joe Roz that hurts and im white
+Joe Roz chill thanks
+Bucky Love idiot
+Bucky Love learn how to spell buck teeth
Complete focus on the task at hand, figuring out the issues and developing the strategy be it science based or design based is the key. Great things do not come from people who talk a lot.
They come from people who think a lot, which means isolating yourself from distractions. Patience is another factor plus stamina to see it through.
I'm bipolar 1 with psychotic episodes, I play strings, paint, and score high on IQ test (even though IQ tests are becoming largely obsolete and meaningless). The overriding fearure for me is that focusing is extremely difficult
@@paulwilliams2663 Good luck, I hope there’s something that can extend your concentration even a little - since you’re creative I’m glad you’re able to accomplish some of it. A lot of creative types have various issues like depression, fear of success / fear of failure, and other challenges. I find it difficult to step in and out of such massively different states of mind. Creative altered state mode, and at other times having to deal with mundane things (which upsets, disgusts and bores me so badly I need recovery time afterward).
@AngelWings I'm at my best around hypomania, very productive, writing song, verse, etc. in minutes. Psychography, too, instantaneous poetry and prose, but as I move through hypomania towards mania, it becomes fragmented, disjointed then nonsensical. I can understand it, my treating psychiatrist at the time asked me to talk through the process as to how I arrived with the brain mess on paper, when I told him, we were in fits of laughter for a long time. Best of luck to you too.
"Don't geniuses live in lamps?" -Patrick Star
That's a genie-Yes?
actually one lived in a tin can, and the master of the can asked for a big nice house.
such an inspiring quote.
Yes. You're one.... when you realise it!
Genies were suppose to be in lamps and bottles not geniuses.
They love to analyze stuff while most people find the analytical process hard work like exercising.
Madelyn Today That's intellect, not intelligence
Really? The average person does not analyze?
@@shahrazadsaied4426 Yes, an average person does not analyze. An analysis you are required to gather data and then form an opinion, which is the exact oposite of how most of people function. Everybody is able to tell whether they like at hing. Very few people are able to properly interpret a graph. If you are able to look at a thing A, then a thing B and arrive at a conclusion C, you are a pretty special person. And the more abstract things you are able to conclude, the more special you are.
@@kofola9145 I'm rather surprised. Since my brain analyzes everything I thought all brains worked the same way. I started doing this before I was old enough to go to school. I will try to keep that in mind when dealing with other people.
I love the two, and both combined are a wonderful match!
The point of this video was to show that no one thing consistently distinguishes a geniuses from most people, other than the habit of solitude, and an intense work ethic, if you look at any individual one would call a genius whether of dance, music, science, or math they spent a considerable amount of time alone practicing and working with whatever there craft was: their medium for expressing their genius. It is not argued that these aren't intelligent people; however, is the valid explanation of their command of their domain in their intelligence, or in the fact that they could concentrate and spend hours on things that most individuals wouldn't care to spend any time focusing on, and not in some superficial and mindless way, but in a pain staking grueling manner, at times, day in and day out. Hence, "a Passion for the Abstract."
I felt like I was once a genius. But then I got depressed and lost sleep. Now i feel brain dead.
I feel like I was once a 300 IQ score alien that became into a money-crazy human with a 160 IQ score as I grew into adulthood
your not brain dead it's just your mind body and spirit needs rest to recharge and u need to be alone but u are special never forget that!!
@@aishajackson478 i Dont understand. I hate science and maths so much but im still smart and wise except I lack motivation
@@red-headedabigail5794 hmm I relate. although math and science DON'T exclusively determine smartness or intelligence. I am very intellectual I think deeply about various things often. But I lack motivation and honestly the desire to achieve anything in life. What's your mbti personality type? Look it up/ research it. I'm an INTP and learning about myself has been SOOOOOOO Enlightening !!!!!!
@@red-headedabigail5794 I always found Calculus Boring , but Algebra was always my thing , I think calculus doesn't need so much thinking , but rather how much did you memorize
Two things most responsible for genius: curiosity and the ability to admit that you don't know everything.
It's sad when a healthy sense of curiosity (instead of being fear driven) and a sense of honesty and modesty is considered above average intelligence traits, instead of the norm. I blame our culture. Classes and tests require that we have to be "right" and we're so fear driven today we don't even let kids out to play.
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lmao, what a great discussion we're having
And Dumb people believe they are smarter than the rest of the society lol
Apparently the term "genius" in high school is defined as a Straight A student...
There's a mere difference between "someone who's really proficient at math", "someone who works really hard to be proficient in Math", and "someone who works hard to be good in Math and forget the lessons after grades have been given".
Many geniuses not only didn't get A's, they despised school. It's probably more appropriate to call someone who gets straight A's a good parrot rather than a genius.
TheCultivatedMind what if i get As in all my math tests and exams (true, dont hate) and despised school
Recordium IV It doesn't matter if you get As in tests or exams... What matters is that you know what "genius" truly means and you broaden your perception regarding this matter. :)
Anyone who judges intelligence by a school system is blind.
Turtle Philosopher In his final acceptance speech, 3 time New York Teacher of the Year John Taylor Gatto resigned; stating that he was no longer willing to work for a system which is designed to dumb kids down.
Schooling in general teaches one to be a mindless parrot/consumer/worker; not a thinker or intellectual revolutionary. This is one reason why great geniuses like Albert Einstein hated it.
I suggest searching in RUclips for the most popular TED talk of all time by Sir Ken Robinson. It's entitled: "How Schools Kill Creativity"
I'm as dumb as a stump but I enjoy my solitude.
You have a genius level of self-awareness.
Closer to being a genius than the retards in the comment section proclaiming to be geniuses with tries-too-hard-but-is-grammatically-incorrect speech
Well, I wouldn't say retards, TheArnoldification, since not everyone is an English speaker. However, you're right, people are overestimating themselves by going so far as to call themselves "Geniuses"! However, these 'idiots' are actually rare, normal boyos think they're smart, but even they will not go as far as "genius".
Thats what a genius would say.
I dub thee the awakened idiot
Despite Feynman's brilliance, Issac Newton was on a different level from a genius standpoint in my opinion. He probably would have 20 Nobel Prizes if he was alive today.
And a massive c**t
Why?
For discovering calculus?
At the same time as someone else?
He was at the right place at the right time to jot down the equations. It's just a tool. Do you know calculus? It's not hard to conjure...
@@cxxmax Newton's universal law of gravitation, laws of motion, optics, cooling just to name a few. And of course Calculus. His contributions form the basis of all modern physics.
'there is something in every one of you that waits and listens for the sound of the genuine in yourself. it is the only true guide you will ever have. and if you cannot hear it, you will all of your life spend days on the end of strings that somebody else pulls.'
-Howard Thurman
"All failure is a lack of concentration." Bruce Lee.
success is predicated on attention to detail.
Fuck Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee was a dork. Overrated wanna be martial artist
@@jaycobcagasan7922 true. Better than Steven Seagal though.
Me is are genius
No, it am me.
+Ryan Lacroix no me it is genius
+Jonathan Lawton no, wrong nothing here
+green frog dayyy hate us because they dayyy ain't us
You obviously don't Green. Actually i think that at least some of us understand the urge for some kind of lonely abstract thoughts like he talks about in the video. That doesn't mean we are geniuses, but it makes us feel good to know that people like Richard Feynman and Isaac Newton had that trait. Don't you think that it is possible that you, also, might have this trait, or some sort of variation of it? I'd think its pretty popular. Anyhow, no biggie. Its a matter of how we want to spend time, our brains are trainable, you know?
I always remember that "Malcom in the Middle" episode where he had a genius friend who was slightly younger. Malcom asked his genius friend what it was like to be a genius. He said it was like the mind was a buzzing bee, humming with life and activity. And that his mind was like thousands of these bees working in unison, while Malcom's mind was like one of those bees. lol
its like a beehive and every bee have a brain like yours haha
But Malcolm was a genius. Lol.
THAT is borne out by science.Creative people have more neuronal connections.
So your anecdote is a recounting of what Hollywood scriptwriters produced for a sitcom entertainment. But for you it is a valid comment on the subject at hand. Ya gotta love America.
@@kingcormack8004 I thought it was a funny joke. (Geniuses have a sense of humor. Those who appeal to a genetic fallacy do not.)
When you think alone, and are always alone on purpose (not because u have to) you discover things that are very very interesting and they are so interesting that others want to take them from you.
True. So true.
I hope I hadn't realized that too late before I blabbed my ideas. At the time I hadn't realized how smart I actually was.
Nah. Others don't even know what they're looking at. All intelligent people have seen the blank look, the signal to stop talking, you are over their head.
@@got2kittys Just depends on how much of a disparity in mental wavelength there is, if you will. If it's too much, it will be completely lost on one of lesser intelligence, but if it's not too great, then I feel like a truly intelligent person is capable of gauging it in a way that they can adapt their approach to conveying what they know and think in a way that the other person can at least grasp what they're getting at.
The ability to focus is definitely central to genius. I have a head injury that makes concentrating absolute hell because there's high pitched ringing and pain 24/7 in my head, my eyesight is awful and I'm partially deaf and schizophrenic. I wonder how smart I'd be without this problem all the time.
You never know...maybe these are they key to your own genius. You must accept chaos to mould it into order.
Sadly, everyone who watched this thinks that they are a creative genius. So I guess that , that instantaneously has made us all the same, and renders us as the boring soul we didn't think we were when we clicked this video.
signoguns Absolutely. And one thing I've found is that, anyone who is truly viewed as a genius in this world by the majority is NOT self proclaimed. It is not for themselves to define their intellect, but the people.
For instance. Kayne west always call himself a genius but he seems like the furthest thing.
+Eng Medo Excellent point.
+TheFrozenGargon "Everbody is a genius, but if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree..."
***** you really should pull your head OUT of your arse. It is helpful, not to have a stinking mind full of s#¡t! when TRYING to make sense of what you are so ignorantly discussing.
***** Who said anyone was relying on someone to pull coconuts form the trees? :) Do fish eat coconuts? Each animal prospers in its own domain, strikingly similar to the idea that we all have a special degree of intelligence higher than others, so much so that neither of us are more intelligent than one another :), we just encounter different paths, different opportunities, which may or may not allow us to express our genius.
One characteristic of geniuses, I think, is a feeling of isolation--a feeling that when they're communicating with others, they are imposters, dumbing down their thoughts so that the rest of us can understand. Thus, they have a lot of trouble communicating freely and openly. And, free open communication are fundamental to almost all human relations.
This feeling of isolation no doubt leads to other character quirks. They may include introversion or they may manifest as a pretense of extroversion.
Not that I would know...
The cleverest people I know (and know about) are often socially awkward and easy to dislike
***** I meant academically 'clever' - I know some people who are extremely knowledgable and practical who are, at the same time, very socially awkward. too much of one type of intelligence and not enough of the other...
Brent Strathdee
Yes, kinda like autistic kids when you think about it. Maybe not acting like 'normal' people isn't such a bad thing though.
Social retardation can boost up academic cleverness since the only reason why humans have so massive brains is to interact with each other. They simply redirect their cognitive powers.
Every creative genius is basically an anomaly within human specie.
Julie Paterson yes and no - when not acting 'normal' results in a string of broken relationships with family friends and partners I'd say its a hindrance
SloveintzWend
I agree. Social interactions can stifle all sorts of creativity and brilliance, because we place such importance on them, not because they actually achieve anything.
That extreme concentration he is talking about is basically "the zone" like how really good sports players get into a zone of concentration. It is almost like exercise, the more you work on it, the more it happens and as a result, it is easier to achieve. When I was younger and furiously teaching myself to program I could get so deep in the zone I would just pound out tons and tons of code, sleep a few hours, and then wake up and code more. The more immersed in it I was, the easier I slipped into it. Now its hard to get there because I have so many distractions. Adderall or similar is a good shortcut but it only gets you halfway there and no matter how much you immerse, you can never get fully into the zone with drugs.
Johnny Bravo It's like the zone times ten. Sit in a room for 3 days and write a symphony or solve a mathematical problem or come up with calculus (as Newton did).
King RedMann
Ah, the "little boy's room?" Or do you have a chamber pot? Actually, when you don't eat, you don't shit much either. Haven't you noticed?
Johnny Bravo How'd you learn to program?
It's called the flow state
Johnny Bravo stfu ur not a genius
I have read both these biographies and found them very interesting studies of the connection between personal trauma/angst and genius. I felt bad for Newton...rejected by his mother and not exactly embraced by schoolmates...isolated for sure, but drove him to fill his life with experimentation in many directions. I wonder if Leonardo DaVinci had personal angst going on as well...thank you for these great reads and others!
the case of Bobby Fischer comes to mind
I think the best description was in the movie Amadeus. Saliari looked in astonishment at Mozart’s original works, without a single correction, as if it was already completed in his head. That is genius.
Too the genius early 19th century British Romantic poet John Keats penned each of his famous masterpiece Odes in about 20 minutes, having precomposed each entirely in his head.
True about Mozart, but Beethoven was also a genius, and he had to work very hard at his compositions before he was satisfied with them. His manuscripts are full of corrections.
@@valerietaylor9615 being deaf made it much more challenging for Beethoven to compose, that's the epitome of creativity.
Genius are often morally complex. Because of their capacity to concentrate and their realization of that, they often sees a things from different perspectives before conclusion. It's like disagreeing with yourself over and over, filling the slots that should and usually be filled be people (aka discussion) before finding a one concrete and well thought finish. Sure it's great for the abstract and logic, where there is only a straight forward answer. But for morals and ethics, especially if s/he is young, s/he will often answer from a logical perspective or play ignorant all together. Because of these things, I say. even as high as geniuses can go, they are indeed human, who cannot play God from beginning till the end of their chapters.
Yeah, many smart people fool themselves into thinking that they are a better person by merit of being intelligent. In reality a dumb and smart person can both be bad.
What I think is strange, is that no one in any of the comments below mentioned concentration. A few people quibbled about abstraction, a few made jokes, and others regaled in the stupidity of those comedians. It is doubtful that the entirety of what was said could be grasped, if they failed to note this pivotal characteristic. It was this ability to concentrate with intensity that forced them to be so alone. 66,448 people have seen the video at the time I am writing this message. The video was only 2:36 long. It fascinates me to see how many people are interested in this type of educational entertainment. Truthfully, I was also fascinated to see the variety of response from people that had taken the extra time and effort to produce some relic of what they had seen. Though, as I said, some were less than amusing.
The problem with today now is nobody has patience and patience and understanding and wisdom is something that only can derive from Jesus.
@@noahreed4712nope. If we are to attribute patience and wisdom to any religion it'd be Buddhism. Stop pushing fanatic propaganda
He is talking about introversion. Introvert type tents to be a loner not because he is antisocial but because he is absorbed in his mind, the reality that we live is not enough so he enriched it with visions of his own
I'd hate to toot my own horn but my pulse raised when I read the description of introverts for me its exactly as you stated I'm glad to know I'm not alone in a sense. I've also realized that every introvert is his own type of introvert and are good at a specific form of genius within their chosen respective area or field they constantly theorize in their head. and the reality is I'm an introvert just to be a better extrovert so I have extrovert tendencies so although mainly an introvert I love talking to people as you can see lol so I'm technically an ambivert idk oh they're also commonly correlated/and or asscoiated with OCD and other like syndromes which god knows I have it bad! :) lol
yea i move things to be the most symmetrical as they lay on the table i cant help myself lol
Pharap Sama lol asperges is a misconception of extraverted people who cant understand what introversion means or feel like.
I'm absolutely an Extrovert, but I constantly find myself a lone. I love human interaction, but often it is none stimulating and ill rewarding to the things that I value and am interested in. So I tend to be reclusive. Introverts may behave in an out going, and Extroverts may behave themselves in a reclusive manner. There are too many variables at play to label it to some one personality. He is clearly stating that among all the complexities of human psychology no one thing distinguishes genius in character other than the tendency for aloneness. Richard Feynman was no Introvert it's why he uses the example of Feynman and Newton to start, but this argument of Extroversion over Introversion leading to genius is silly. Loneliness means loneliness no matter if it's asperges, introversion, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, arrogance, enigmatic behavior, eccentricities, or whatever that drives one to be alone. You can not find a direct relationship to explicit personalities, because there is not direct observable correlation. Psychologically there is a better correlation to psychopathy and genius than introversion and genius. The only definite answer is they all spent time alone, who knows why, most likely "A Passion for Abstraction." for whatever reason.
@@mpcc2022 good comment
Some people don't understand that realising ones potential isn't just a vanity thing but it is also a powerful way for a person to truly understand their emotions and behaviour.
"an intellectual is somebody who has found something more interesting than sex"...I forget who said it
An edgy virgn most likely
Or maybe an adult
I have found many interesting things that aren't sex. But I'd take sex over time travel any day.
+poiuytrewq11422 dumb choice, time travel gets you both if you play your cards right
***** I don't want to be my own grandfather if I play them wrong, though.
Thought my way out of OCD one morning while sitting in a chair after I had struggled with it for 2 years. I have never applied that much concentration since then. Quite frankly that whole mental illness made me apathetic towards many things. If I could find the motivation and the will to really dig deep without preconceived notions filling my head, I am certain I could create great things. Maybe it is pure arrogance but I know the potential lies somewhere within. I think all of us have amazing potential to do extraordinary things but usually are content with the ordinary.
+Seadog95 -well said
The coolest aspect of this video is, he gives two examples of “Geniuses” for us to examine and find guidance. No one likes complete isolation. Our brains are not broken. Our motivation can decrease depending on warmth. We are humans. So it’s important for socially “ struggling” ones, to examine the socially successful ones. Study them. Find the tangents they got to comedians or presidents.
look what we are missing. Everything is a recipe. A key with little to zero directions can unlock any lock. If it can adapt to the wished task. That’s why these videos are great.
Since it was fun to read through the debates I’d like to share my take:
Judging openly is crossing borders. A form of abuse. It is to be questioned why people feel like “roasting” each other in platforms like these. Highly likely, that one who does so, doesn’t truly stand in awareness of why one is here. The lack of self awareness and self realization will probably lead to a toxic mixture that wants to over cross its own vessel. It’s 1930 central Europa mentality. Not aware of my full strengths. Knowing others got talent or even more talent. Let’s envade others.
It happens for people who victimize others that they had been victims in similar ways. For that case I hope to raise awareness that the moment one leans over your boarders they are in unbalanced state and their opinion is to be seen like this. A demonstration of physical laws and a clear indicator that all humans create one big spectrum. Without the individuals who act this way maybe we would act more often this way. We can be grateful it’s not us to tell others they are stupid.
“ I am a genius “
A self affirmation in this direction is prolly more beneficial than the other way around
At moments of unbalanced self fulfillment image it may be beneficial to tell yourself anything you need to proceed.
Before one tells others.
I can understand the ones preaching how ever.
People like Einstein or ones without social acknowledgement, would never say it out loud out of the Awareness of negative result. It would be seen as self hate to open up to an environment where Hornets would directly attack,
That’s maybe somewhere then an way of saying “ hey I’ve been there , said I was a genius, I got crushed, don’t do it it happens to you too, so I’ll crush you to see “
Either way. The brain is deep and simple. The time we invest on something is clearly connected to our interest.
Like others said, geniuses are humans. They can have flaws in grammar. They are to be seen like a lock with a diamond chamber behind it.
Different colors and shapes like humans all have. By destroying one kind one destroyes oneself.
Let’s play monopoly. If you’re able to win out of any person that’s when you’re happy.
This is the game ones you’re bored try it not always easy
wow, Thanks for the insight. Sad that most people'll scroll through
Interesting Read.
A father of a friend of mine was an astrophysicist.
I saw him standing in front of his house one day staring at the ground.
As I approached I noticed he was observing the wind going across a large mud puddle.
He seemed embarrassed when I greeted him, because he jolted out of a trance like state and fumbled for words.
I asked him what he was doing and he just laughed it off and said "Thinking...just thinking."
I wish my teenage self would have gotten to know him better.
He was a man of few words though.
Individuality, nonconformity. Not bowing to peer pressure.
not true
It is true, it's not a single quality, but it's very true. Anyone that's ever changed anything learns the subject, but holds onto their intuitive ideals. If einstein was a conformist he would of rejected his own ideals and not presented general relativity, same for newton, eddie van halen, etc people who change the world don't do it through mental calculation, they do it with ideas, intuition and they hold onto their ideas.
So anyone who rebels has a higher chance of genius.
I don't buy it.
Any scientist that follows the scientific method bows to peer pressure. I think you're onto something. Free thinking? I'll give you that. Free thinkers are surely more intelligent.
GrimReapiN and thus you prove atheism does not increase intelligence. your entire point is pretty much, "So if a person adds extra letters to the English language that makes him more likely to be genius !? doesn't make sense!" his point was that in order to be a genius you also have to have the capacity to generally question preset systems of structure and Authority in order to develop a truly unique intellect. and living your entire life was such a capacity developed a very unique type of individual, a genius even. but because of the fact that your highest achievement of intellectual consideration and work was, "Atheism!" I doubt you understand.
I think he meant that individuality and nonconformity are usually necessary conditions for genius. They are not sufficient conditions for genius. If it was the latter, then it's surely wrong. I had a friend in high school that would stand up right in the middle of class and masturbate frantically for no reason. That's certainly nonconformist and he's certainly an individual. Where everyone else was bowing to peer pressure to stay sane, he stood erect as a beacon of rebellion. But come to think of it, his actions usually allowed him to get expelled from classes and yet he still passed all his exams and graduated.
simplified to one word: focus
this is overly simplified to the point of being uninformative.
kinda came up short. id say his answer is the ability to see and understand things clearly without the need for learned influence.
Which could be psychologically narrowed down to: autism.
Carlos Gabriel Hasbun Comandari no
doodelay Yes.
This guy would make an AMAZING sith lord!
To be a genius is so easy....
Being motivated by other genius... then focus on your field And make progress...
People will recognise you as a genius...
He pretty much described like a majority of mathematicians. Not sure about all of their intensity for focus, but definitely an appreciation for abstraction.
To be a genius and be alone is to be in company of a mind beyond that which anyone can comprehend, I would rather study the unbelievable alone than waste my time trying to convince the masses of something they could never come to understand.
Then how come geniuses like Einstein are able to communicate their ideas to other physicists?
Usually when it's bed time for average people, it's the time i look forward to the most, i can go for a walk, or conduct what ever i need to do in peace and calm without people disturbing me, i go to bed when people usually get up in the morning, people that know me have a hard time understanding how i manage to function, it's simple really.
Same here omg same here
@@PrettyViibe Weekends sort of suck most of the time, streets are riddled with intoxicated people until early morning, so i typically head for the woods and set up a campfire and practice some bushcraft or i stay indoors, suppose i don't have it that bad since i live in a small town surrounded with wildlands.
@@HansensUniverseT-ASo how do you conduct daily errands like shopping groceries, going to the bank, etc. if sleeping during the day? Also doing work.
Being a genius means you're fundamentally different than your peers. Finding a mate is difficult. I took the WISC-IV in the 3rd grade and was treated much differently after having obliterated the IQ test. It doesn't make me better than other people. I just feel different. I may look a certain way but the way I go about life is different. I'm a pretty shy person.
I always say that the real sign of a genius are those that can remain focused on a single "thing" for prolonged periods of time. Viewing it from varying perspectives, repetitively over time, remaining focused on finding a ___________.
Now, whether or not they are using this focus for good or bad is another arguement entirely.
Non the less, if you have an interest or apptitude for some"thing", and can go to places and levels others can not fathum on thier own, you have potential beyond your peer humans.
And yes, this includes all types.
(all 'smart' folks who may attack grammar or spelling, Pshhh)
*watches this secretly hoping he mentions something you do*
Lol
What I took away is that it's better to be a dumbass sometimes, at least if it helps me stay away from depression and loneliness.
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Genius as a special category aside, growing up exceptionally bright and creative (unless you grow up in an environment full of equally bright, supportive and emotionally available loved ones) is an isolating experience-- I suspect more so before the internet.
Even a modestly gifted person, with, say, an 20 IQ points above average, has probably grown up surrounded by people whom they eventually found were noticeably less intelligent. They may have interests and passions that arent widely shared by those around them. They might be ridiculed for their differences, depending on their social skills and environment. But even if they arent, it can be a lonely way to grow up.
The greater the gap, the more powerful the potential effect.
Growing up like that can have a damaging, isolating effect. It can make you arrogant, or misanthropic, or emotionally withdrawn or hesitant, or it can make you the kind of person who presents a dumbed down persona to the world to avoid hurting others or being rejected.
The internet has made things different, you can now find peers and people who share your interests more easily, no matter who you are. Though, it can also mean a broader, more anonymous audience to reject outliers for being nerds,
and a broader and apparently dumber hoi polloi to help foster arrogance and misanthropy 😞
I guess it would take a series of studies to find out whether highly creative and intelligent people who were born after, say, 1990
Feel less alone than those born before?
2:07 They all had
• the ability to concentrate with a sort of intensity that is hard for mortals like me to grasp
• a kind of passion for abstraction that doesn't lend itself to easy communication
"if you judge a fish on the ability to climb a tree it will forever live its life believing it is stupid" -Albert Einstein on genius
a fish can't believe in anything since its brain is too underdeveloped to process complex thoughts, fish are purely instinctual animals and their brains are inherently small.
I understood the message, but I wanted to point that illogicality out because it just…irritated me.
and they cant cry either----extra fact and it irritated me
+Elijah Bailey ever heard of a metaphor?
I comment on every video I watch ever heard of a metaphor that makes coherent sense instead of psuedo-bullshit?
I'm smart.
his book on Richard Feynman ("Genius") was one of my favorite books of all time
THANK YOU. I will seek "Genius". I've read several of his books on various scientific topics including his excellent Newton biogr. Excellent because it gave a very good sense of Newton's work, genius, and personality, but it wasnt 600 pp. long. Some biographies detail everything Which can be fine but the details seem not to contribute. I have "Surely You're Joking, Mr. F." which is great.
I'm pretty sure that solitary moments weren't a consequence of their genius, but rather, the means for which they facilitated a designated time to work. Their work is why we know them as geniuses.
Solitude over socializing provides time to research, question, analyze, study, create, think and learn.
I think we all have our moments of genius, but it usually involves lots of hard work and experience. I don't think we should limit the term genius to the pure academic either. There are many physical adepts who I would consider genius.
I really like your perspective. The moments of genius are very real. I see things differently though and I'd like to get your thoughts on mine.
I believe there are only a few people who can't succeed without hard work and experience. When I think of genius, I think of someone who can cut through that and can perform almost any task with less effort than most. A moment of genius would be when you have a shift of perspective which allows you to see something you couldn't see before. However, genius isn't enough. You still need to work hard and experience to become skilled in something.
dwightfry99 Like many things, there is a dictionary definition and how we interpret that definition. Someone with a lack of knowledge or insight in to a subject may think someone a genius if meeting someone with that knowledge, but that's all relative. Put a genius outside his element and he doesn't seem much like a genius anymore, so does he lose his genius status? I was one of those kids in school who would pick up things with minimal effort, but I know enough to know I don't know jack. My strength is puzzle solving and not just the things we call puzzles. I can usually connect two things or ideas together like a detective or an engineer. I wouldn't say I'm very speedy in the process because I like to consider all the possibilities before coming up with a preferred connection. Perhaps a genius can do that with minimal effort and great speed, but if we both get there does that make me any less a genius?
So, for most of us, we have our expertise and moments of genius. Genius is perhaps an overused term and in the end doesn't really mean much other than to separate someone from another group. I'd like to think we're all genius' in our own way.
It also involves passion, I think thats very important :D
Chris Randall
I think speed is overrated. its best to take your time to make sure there are no mistakes. Plus some people are easily distracted by other thoughts during the process of solving something.
Consistency is the key. Success does not just come from talent or luck. People who build excellent habits in their lives achieve consistent success that builds up overtime. Everybody has incredible potential in many fields. How many people actually achieve their highest potential?
"The capacity of the individual to be alone is one of the most important signs of maturity in emotional development."
who's the author of the quote? or did you just put your own comment into double apostrophes to make it seem more profound : )
I'd argue that the one trait they share is diligence.
Diligence to a particular problem or sets of problems. Einstein even admits this. I would again argue that Einstein being one of the foremost examples of diligence, to the day he died.
I wouldn't say that diligence is a trait that all geniuses share, it's a trait that successful people share. The geniuses that come to mind and are recognized for their brilliance are the ones that manage to accomplish something profound within their field(s), which in large part is due to character traits like diligence, perseverance, focus, and discipline. There are scores of geniuses without these traits who never come to mind for this exact reason.
Everest Witman One that does come to mind is Da Vinci. Someone who worked on numerous projects for short periods of time, only to abandon them. Da Vinci said at the end of his life, how he was disappointed in himself for never being able to finish anything.
Adam Wojtczak , Everest Witman
I have to agree and recant :)
Most geniuses are proud of their ability to concentrate. An extraordinary ability to recognize patterns is a main trait.
They are not alone, they are with their thoughts.
Sometimes I wish I would be just a simple person who goes to work and doesn't worry about the world and the feelings of other people.
😂
A lot of people believe what make people smart is someones GPA level or how well they did on a test. The fact that they're a mathematician or not. Or how well a person did in college. Not to say you're not smart, but honestly you could drop out of college and still be more comparable to Einstein than someone who's the top of the class. Why? Because of a persons perception and experiences. People take information in differently. Process it differently. Not everyone has the same type of brain. Some brains are a little more complex, and some people just don't have the motivation to learn. They don't see the point.
When I was in high school I passed by having a 1.7 GPA. Low as fuck compared to most, but this is because I didn't care. Yet in college I passed with a 3.16. I cared to learn a little more. I started to process things differently as I grew older.
I like how he talks about abstract thinking. A lot of this is true for geniuses. Tesla was known partially as a mad scientist and yet by todays standards we know he was well beyond his time. You think that a thousand years ago the idea of flight was even conceivable? Fuck no. Yet today its as common as walking your dog.
We look at people and we see their faults. Oh he/she's a bad speller so he/she can't be smart. Or he/she doesn't understand the ideas as well as the other kids in the class so he/she must be slow. This isn't always the case. Talking about Einstein. The man believe it or not wasn't always the best in math when was younger, but this is because his brain was telling him other ways of solving a problem that the teachers just could not understand. He eventually made up his own equations. The rest is history.
So just remember. Just because you happen to have it easier than someone else in class doesn't make them stupid. It just means they're having a tougher time. They may even have a more complex brain than you do.
well said
+Onizuma13 Great comment and I can relate.
+Onizuma13 GPA can depend on both effort and intelligence, it's true that you don't HAVE to be smart to get a high GPA (not like school is designed for true 'intelligence'), you just have to try. What sets the smart people apart is that it probably takes them either less effort to produce very strong results, or they understand things much more in depth than the rest of the class. Then there's the people who just know how to work the system, which may or may not mean they're intelligent.
+Onizuma13 Explains all my life. Made me happier and gave me hope
+Onizuma13
_"You think that a thousand years ago the idea of flight was even conceivable? Fuck no."_
Conceivable? Sure. Google "Icarus". This may come across as an amazing idea to you, but ancient people just had to look at birds to realize that it was possible to fly.
_"Not to say you're not smart, but honestly you could drop out of college and still be more comparable to Einstein than someone who's the top of the class."_
Sure, if said person simply didn't give a flying fuck about his grades. However, you should agree that you'd be a complete moron if you were an employer and needed a really clever guy and ending up hiring a fresh college dropout in place of a proven mathematician with 180 IQ.
_"Why? Because of a persons perception and experiences."_
No. The very point of intelligence is that it's a form of general problem solving ability. Someone who's smart will surpass someone who is less smart very quickly even if the less smart person has had a ton of time to practice in advance, and the other way around, someone who's less smart will reach his level of incompetence quicker.
_"People take information in differently. Process it differently."_
That's right. And "different" doesn't necessarily mean "equally well". The most straight forward way to get some information about how well people can learn is to find some way of measuring their performance, which you, for some strange reason, appear to be violently opposed to.
_"Not everyone has the same type of brain. Some brains are a little more complex"_
Sure... some brains are "a little more complex" indeed. What on earth does that mean?
_"and some people just don't have the motivation to learn. They don't see the point."_
If you don't give enough of a fuck about a topic to even bother attempting to learn it, then I'm happy to agree with you that intelligence is irrelevant, but I fail to see how that's something that will be an issue often. Generally, when I don't give a shit about something I try to avoid it altogether.
after a few days alone with a project, ideas become faster, progress becomes faster. There are no distractions, and one will sit with a problem, forgetting to eat and drink, until it gets done.
Geniuses believed they were geniuses. He's so right that character traits just are what they are, intelligence is intelligence, creativity is creativity, genius is genius, focus is focus.
Look at all the geniuses in the comment section weighing in.
Thanks for the laugh 😂
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I don't in any way consider myself a genius, but when I'm composing music, I feel most in my element when I'm alone. I become a bit of a perfectionist and overly critical, and it's extremely easy for me to critique every tone, instrument, etc until it's as close to right as possible. However, I love to teach, yet find myself unable to fully concentrate or "go there" in the presence of others unless I'm collaborating.
And this is different still than the feeling when performing. I feel I do best when I get lost in the music and the metacognition kicks in.
joe jarden I'll be sure to do that. Any idea who wrote it?
joe jarden Thank you! Have a wonderful day. I appreciate you going the extra mile.
***** Thank you, you're too kind. Glad we could make your day.
Please. You ain't a genius at all so quit pretending.
He's not pretending to be a genius ; he's testifying about creativity in relation to being alone or not.
Find better use of your bitterness, you'll be welcomed.
i don't know if I'm late to comment but the more i learn about myself the more i realize how hopeless i am,i kept perusing myself to understand other people mindsets because i struggled to understand how they think,i mean i do get along well with friends but they'd usually say that the way i communicate is very me,it's different and they find it amusing,basically my best friends does not even understand me and most of the time it's just me trying to know them. i just wanted to find someone who literally understands what am i trying to convey without faking it to sound smartass but even the smartest friends in my school doesn't even understands me,no one actually,just my parents but what if they are gone will i be alone? idfk
sometimes thoughts are so conflicting,when i started to see worth in myself i was shut down by others who i saw was better than me at something, even tho i've never met a person who can do everything like me irl.All i think of myself is just ordinary but others kept telling me i'm a genius,i'm gifted. i'm confused because i have never done any big achievement and all my questions and doubts were laughed at at school.Well i have no idea if i'm actually a genius but what i know is that i will never find someone who would understand me and even if there's another person like me i met,i doubt if they'd even be like me,geniuses might not even understands eachother sometimes and it's an even harder task to find one.
Loneliness, eccentric... perfect excuses for a bunch of people to all of the sudden consider themselves geniuses.
spineshivers You're right...logic follows that percentages of genius would be highest among babbling homeless winos.
A genius, by definition, must be different. Otherwise they'd be like everyone else and therefore not geniuses.
spineshivers u mad bro
spineshivers Once again the dark side of a disturbed individual rears it's ugly face.
spineshivers Or because they are thinking about things that nobody else is. I figure that could be pretty lonely. You are the classic if I can't do it then nobody can example. There are no limits only time spineshivers.
I read James Gleick's book on chaos theory mathematics back in the 1990's he is a very thorough researcher.
The common trait is actually the confusion of why everyone does what they do and do not see it is pure vanity I would say. but that statement would be hard to understand unless one was like we are.
Actually geniuses understand other people very well; some just tend to play along while other point out the stupidity in it. The ones who play along are what you are referring to as heightened ability in a separate area. By logical deduction you are definitely not a genius.
Abhishek Sehgal You do know what I am saying, do you not? The efforts that normal people place forth, for tasks of pure pointlessness and vanity is a very confusing place for any genius, sure we understand why they do it better than anyone, But that is not true understanding of it.
Jonathan R. It depends; understanding defines primitive nature of genetic structuring; so yeah I think its pretty understandable
Harder than seeing what's wrong with others is seeing what would be right. I suspect many geniuses are perfectionists who can't settle for a mindset they can't help but continually criticize.
Hello 'genius' Jonathan? Let's put aside the self ascribed arrogance okay...
Where are your awards? Do something cool with that 'genius' of yours or fuck off and stop standing on that pedestal, it's not for you.
Everyone is a genius. We let life hide our genius. We need to recognize the genius in ourselves before we can recognize it in others. We put limitations on ourselves as shown in this video.
I have Aspergers and a high IQ. I’m RUBBISH with people but absolutely love learning about physics and I teach myself to play instruments. It’s taken a long time but I’m slowly starting to understand myself 👌🏽
Knowing physics doesn't necessarily mean you're intelligent, and love of music actually means your smart too.
Wow so open and sweet, learning is easy if you have a passion and interest in that subject, and if you are very very intelligent, it must be cool that it is so effortless for you,I don't think u are rubbish with people, u learn that most people are rubbish,
I think this is right. I think it's a matter of having the focus and memory to be able to hold many different abstractions and their connections together in your mind's eye at once. And then having the creative power (with the combination of focus and memory) to manipulate the ideas in real time.
I love geniuses and ppl who live in their heads. They are fascinating to me. I could listen to them forever.
Are you sure? geniuses sometimes can’t help it they don’t even want to be in their heads
@@mshoneylovebaby ME
That's why we should cherish and help people with brilliant minds before they go the other way
concentration with intensity it's very smart ! Thanks.
"Talent hits targets no-one else can hit. Genius hits targets no-one else can see." Schopenhauer
I am antisocial and i hate working with other people more people=more problems and distractions
Due to the fact that nearly all social interaction is based in emotion, rather than logic, it can be very difficult for rational people to become social butterflies.
The most genius ones don't accept they are infact way more intelligent than the others, which is the core driving cause for them to do more. Their thirst for success is way beyond a normal human's threshold, yet their simplicity way lower than the normal ones.
Whenever I read biographies of geniuses and their personality and traits are described I just generally feel like they all, or at least most, had Aspergers.
Thijs van Gisbergen
It's not bad to have Aspergers, I rather feel people should be proud about it. It is a shame that society has such trouble accepting something which is not like the standard, however. And let's agree, at least, that we both hope for a more open society where not everyone is expected to work and feel the same way.
I do not have an issue with Aspergers as a label, however. As I said, why not be proud instead?
Richard Feynman absolutely in no uncertain terms had Asperger's, and I haven't the slightest clue why people, not saying that you are in particular, try to diagnose him with it, this takes away credence from people who actually did probably have Asperger's. If you point out that he was highly sociable, and had an ability to empathize with others point of view better than anyone I've ever met, charm his way out of a myriad of situations, and people say well that was the incredibly high intellect that allowed him to seduce women. Yes because clearly it was Beethoven's lack of intellect that kept him from seducing women. Here's the deal, genius if there is such a thing, needs at minimum a tenthousand hours of cultivation, and to do that in most cases you need time to yourself, so you have to not mind/enjoy time to yourself, tack on a certain level of obsession, then you have the traits needed for crafting world class excellence in any discipline. that being said, people that are world class can seem as if they have asperger's when they really don't, because people with asperger's have an advantage since they have the character traits of repetition, tendency for obsessing, a certain aversion of people, character traits that lends themselves to brilliance. I dunno I just like to think that Feynman was just a regular guy with a slightly higher iq, that became the greatest physicist america has produced, in the american way, not through being gifted or anything, but through sheer work and ferocious passion for learning. I'd always much rather win despite of a thing rather than because of a thing. see for me I've always been called gifted or whatever, and I think its insulting if you actually think about it, people steal away all your hard work and give the credit to your accomplishments to some outside power, as if you won a raffle that they didn't, its garbage.
mycollegeshirt
I don't think he had Aspergers. But I will say this: I sincerely dislike when people without Aspergers say that it would be anything bad with the diagnosis. It's offensive, it really is. You're not in the position to say if people should have a diagnosis or not. No matter if you think it's good pr bad, you really have no place to speak for this minority. As a part of this minority, I can assure you that we are very proud indeed to be Aspergers and we do not like when people without it talk about the irrelevance of diagnosis. We are not like you, and that is not limited to silly social stuff that Wikipedia and such list. We are a people. and we are different from you. And we are proud of that fact. So do not ever tell any of us that our labels are not needed, because we are different from you, and that's a fact, and we're proud of it. Not ashamed at all. The only thing that causes issues is the society based around people that does not share our genetic composition.
oh no not ass burgers D:
Thijs van Gisbergen
Are you going for an olympic medal in strawmanning, or what's up here?
"Funny, when you get a diagnosis, you and your psychologe guy/girl and yourself may think totally different things. so what are you saying that People who 'have' aspergers are a minority when you even cannot compare people?"
If you don't know what Aspergers is and you are interested in knowing what the physical differences are in the brain and so forth I do highly encourage you to educate yourself in the matter. If your point is to question Aspergers without even knowing what it is, then I must sadly say that I am not interested in having that conversation. I would like you to check out the basic differences in the neurology and hormones, to start out with, otherwise the conversation will be extremely pointless.
And yes, we think differently. That doesn't mean we think different things. Do not confuse those statements as they mean two completely different things. How our brain works is different. Visual and sounds inputs for an example, and how they are then handled and processed by the brain. This is a different way of thinking, not thinking about different THINGS.
"BUT WHO IS WE? if you can point out everyone who has it. NO you cant. Caused by evolutionary difference, randomness. It's silly,"
Yes, we actually can. As I said, some basic understanding of what Aspergers is would probably be a good idea.
"It's silly, There are less smart people in the world because they are not social, or something like that. And because of this, they become rejects of society. Rejects are not in the right circumstance to have babies and stuff."
If you want to talk about people being social or not I advice you do it with the guy who wanted to talk about the social aspects. I haven't mentioned it at all.
"And fenotype is what people get into during their lives, so even 'social' people could end up in minority, caused by thing happened in their lives. So again, everything is too random. It is not easy to accept, but if you believe in evolution, it is true."
And then you keep on ranting about the social stuff, which is a bit weird. Being social or not is a personality trait. Aspergers is not a personality trait, and everyone who assumes that someone with Aspergers is social or not, is horribly uneducated on the subject.
"Aspergers is something we made up, as for any mental 'disease'. Why?"
Aspergers is not a mental disease and your claim that it would be if offensive and uneducated. As I said: At least learn the basics. The conversation is pointless otherwise.
"You need like 1000 people, random chosen, run into diagnose, who are telling the truth completely with no glitch of their own brain, no glitch in the diagnosis system. Than, if you would be able to do this impossible task, you could perhaps see how many people are different from each other, and people who might resemble to each other."
And now I'm not even sure who you're talking to anymore as no one in this thread what so ever has at any point claimed that people are the same. Of course people are different. In many, many ways indeed.
"You can be the best in tennis, sure, But you can not be the best in being social. The best in being normal. It is simply to random."
And then you talk about being social again, which, I repeat: I have never even mentioned. Are you talking to some imaginary friend, perhaps? Are they the ones you are responding?
Look, if you're going to have a conversation with someone, at least try to make an effort to respond to what they have actually said. You went on a long rant about things I have never brought up as being part of Aspergers at all.
If you would have at any point, asked me what I think about Aspergers and the social aspects however (which would have been the normal thing to do) I would have responded that how social someone is or isn't is highly IRRELEVANT to an Aspergers diagnosis. How social you are is a personality trait, that personality trait can be based on a lot of things, and everyone can be social or not no matter what. I, for example, am a very social person and work in a field which require a high empathy and high understanding of people. This is something which surprises people a lot, as they suffer from the faulty notion that people with Aspergers would be less social by default. This is entirely untrue. Our brains works differently, and sometimes that can be the product, but so can other things in anyone's lives.
However, maybe you don't care about big physical differences which means we respond to medication significantly differently than you, that we respond significantly different to drugs than you, that we hear sounds in another way than you do and that our visual thinking works in a completely other way. Maybe you don't care that the environments we thrive in are so different from most (with some exceptions there, I will admit) Maybe you don't care that a light touch on our arm can hurt just as much as putting your hand on an on turned stove because our nerves are different. Maybe you don't care that our seratonine behaves and travels in a completely different way in our brains. Maybe you don't care that our brains works over 40% better than yours do when we focus, as we are very efficient in turning off other senses when do. Maybe you don't care that our concentration of gray and white matter in our brains are different from yours.
But I can assure you that we care about these differences, because our wants and needs in life, are different as a result from it.
Are we all the same? No, because something called neurodiversity and personalities exist, and they exist among everyone. But that doesn't mean that there's no such thing as Aspergers. There is, and if you are interested in finding out more, then go an do so.
I have watched the video 19 times and still trying to figure out what he meant.
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@@mayankroat4676 Are you praying for him? 😅 ...me too, me too.
They are lonely ppl
In short, they think more in abstract ways, that are difficult to convey in the founded means of conversation.
The other major difference between Newton and Feynman was about 70 IQ points. Newton had an IQ score of approximately 200 whereas Feynman’s was about 130. This would explain the differences in their personalities as Feynman would find socializing with “common folk” much easier than Newton since he was much closer to them intellectually.
There is no way Feynman had an iq of 130. I have an IQ of nearly 140 and I’m dumb as toast.
If his IQ was seriously that low then he must have had the most insane work ethic on the planet. But I doubt it.
I honestly thought that when he made the comparison, you can't place Feynman in the ballpark as Newton when it comes to IQ. Newton had an IQ over 200. One in billions of people.
Stupidest logic I’ve ever heard
The most noticeable difference is they both recognized IQ scores are dog shit predictions
I like the ballet saying: talent is work. Add obsession and the right context.