I love this exploration of how TV and culture both reflect and shape each other back and forth. I hope you keep exploring these topics, because this is very well done
I also look at the loss of sons. As you're watching TV, see how long it takes to see a commercial featuring a father and his son having a positive interaction. Then see how long it takes to see the next instance.
Michael Landon was the TV dad you could leave your kids with, and when you picked them up, they would be better humans. This applies to even non-fathers on TV. A world where men were like Jim Rockford, Mr. T., Uncle Jessie, Optimus Prime, and Michael Knight, we boys especially never were short of great role models.
Given that the current crop of ideologically corrupted TV/film writers are disinclined from writing good/positive male characters the erosion of strong father figure archetypes on screen isn’t surprising. Surreal and indeed sobering times we live in. ☹️
The 2000s/2010s sitcom The middle had a strong father figure on there and it was refreshing to see a father that was steadfast, patient, and loved his family in his own way. Neil Flynn was a great TV Dad... but he is a rarity amongst family sitcoms over the last decade or so.
Thank you for addressing this. As a son of a single mother, I was lucky to have 2 uncles and role models like Clint Eastwood, Steve McQueen and Bruce Lee to help mold and point me in a masculine direction. Serving in the military helped temper a stoic mindset. It greatly saddens me to see how optional fathers have become in the present day family dynamic. I've never been married and I have no children and it has always pissed me off seeing media and entertainment making Homer Simpson the model and staple of fathers in the modern household. I still don't buy Gillette razors (mainly because of my magnificent beard that Odin himself would be proud of) and I never drank Bud light beer anyway, and I was even prompted to be a MGTOW for 5 years. I still have a deep feeling of wanting to be father, mentor and provider to a family of my own but in the present day climate and ever approaching my expiration date ...I don't see that happening for me.
I completely agree with you, and I am in a similar situation on the woman side. Never got married or had kids. And now the kid thing is no longer an option. I realized too late in life that a career and being a girl boss wasn’t the best choice in life. Maybe I can still find a good man to live life with…but I know the odds aren’t in my favor. PS I wish you could post a photo of that magnificent beard! You know that shaving says a lot about a man. Like “I’m not one.” Lol
@@mysocalledgenxlife Unfortunately beards have become common place. I think it's compensation for the lack of testosterone flowing through the modern "male" body or maybe it's just plain laziness. And I've got to be honest ...I think Matt Walsh uses Just For Men.
It's by design. Also nearly all fathers in animation fathers (besides Jimmy Neutron, King of the Hill, and Bob's Burger's dad's have been portrayed as bumbling idiots since The Flintstones)
I don't care what anyone thinks, outside of Cosby's extracurriculars in his private life; I still consider Heathcliff Huxtable to be a fine example of what a dad should be. My other favorites are Uncle Phil, Pa Ingles(that man PRAYED over a kid that wasnt genetically his!!) Carl Winslow, Alan Matthews from Boy Meets World, and Phillip Drummond from Diff'rent Strokes.
I was recently talking to a friend about media and nostalgia. Specifically that there have been a lot of movies and TV shows bringing back the 80s. And we’re starting to move into 90s nostalgia. Every decade up till 2000 has been vividly unique. After that, it’s all been kind of bland. My argument was that the last 15 or 20 years we live online. There is the yahoo chat room era. You have the MySpace era. You have the early Facebook period. You have pre and post smart phones. 2000-2010 and 2010-2020 are two decades that all blend together and don’t seem to have any real cultural stand outs (off line). At least not the way the 20s, the 40s, the 50s, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, really stood out. Each of these decades are incredibly unique to themselves. But if we look online each decade very much has its standouts. That’s because we live online. Everything we do is online. It reminds me of the movie ready player one where the real world is ignored while the online space is vividly lived in. And that makes sense with what this video is stating how we have lost all of our TV dads, but we have so many online dads
I had a great father. Unfortunately he passed in 1997. One TV dad that helped form me after was jon schnider as jonathan kent on smalville. He reminded me alot of dad and even loked like him a little, lol.
There is so much data to prove it. Not a huge reach at all. The great society literally had government agents in the homes of black women giving them checks to keep fathers out.
My favorite t.v. dad was Steven Douglas from 'My Three Sons'. Nobody does a quizzical face like Fred MacMurray. I've been watching those episodes again lately and my favorite is when little Chip who is about 8 has a 'clunky' neighborhood girl who is basically stalking him and hanging around outside the house. Chip is being really abrupt with her. Dad tells him he has to 'be nice' to her. Asking Chip, 'what is a gentleman?' To which Chip sulkily replies, 'a gentle man'. Then Steven has a pushy woman who tricks him into coming for a romantic dinner and seemingly is undeterred by his lack of interest in her. The four of them end up on something of a disastrous double date at a dance. When Chip sees how unhappy his dad is, he demands, 'now can we tell them to take get lost.' lol. The Steven sighs, 'yeah, now we can tell them to get lost.' I'm paraphrasing.
Great vid, well laid out and good points made! tbh I wrote below before completing the video, great minds lol. :) I feel like the trajectory went from respected and trusted media dads in the 80s and 90s to complete imbeciles in the 2000s- seriously, think about the dad on modern family, the main male leads on king of queens, everybody loves raymond, the office, and so on. Nearly every male character of the last 25 years on tv has been somehow toxic or stupid. And now, removed all together. Life sometimes imitates art. I believe there has been a targeted attack on the entire concept of wholesome masculinity over the last 25-30 years in media. People complain about race swapping or gender swapping in movie remakes. But, what about the movies and television shows that keep male characters in them but make them idiots? 21 jump street, star wars reboot with complete burn out luke skywalker etc. Masculinity was never the problem. Narcissism and sociopathy were and are. And those concepts know no gender- despite popular opinion and outdated statistics.
tv show called emergency. i forget if she was a reporter or what her deal was, but she was a toxic feminist. the "anything men can do, women can do better" type. she was always being "put in a box" for her safety. and at one point she pushed it too far, ran into a burning building, and needed rescuing. by a man. or something like that. it's been a long time since i've seen it so i may be getting it confused. anyway, she was not put in the safety box because she was a woman. it was never about her abilities or lack thereof. she simply wasn't trained to deal with the dangers. if she was a he, they would still designate a safety box. but wait, there's more. opening doors? of course a woman can get it for herself. fighting fires? sure! so why was it that before the toxic feminists supplanted men it was more common and accepted for men to do these things? SO WOMEN DON'T HAVE TO. essentially, if a woman can land herself a chivalrous man, she has a willing servant. to a point of course. no self-respecting man will allow himself to be abused by her privilege. of course a woman doesn't HAVE to refrain from certain things, no more than a man has to. i'm equally comfortable welding together a cake stand AND baking a cake to put on it. a woman should likewise be ALLOWED to discover that level of comfort in her endeavors, without judgment, even if she chooses welding exclusively. this is expression, not identity. which takes me to the next step in this topic. i know there are a number of factors contributing to gender dysphoria, but if we treat each other with respect, support each other when we see someone being mistreated, and allow people to engage in ANY activity without gender discrimination, maybe there would be far less identity confusion. at the VERY end you ask, what is a woman anyways? a woman is a human with XX chromosomes. a man is a human with XY chromosomes. THAT'S IT. the few humans that are born with some other chromosomal combination are the only ones that can truly choose how they want to identify.
Gotta love how the example of "modern" sitcoms mostly include shows that started 20 years ago (or nearly 30 years ago, in the case of Everybody Loves Raymond). Lots of cherry picking going on in order to make a politically-driven point.
I put modern era as post 2010 with modern family and blackish. And I mentioned schitts creek and Ted lasso. Never once mentioned politics outside of laws that were passed in 1965. Not sure what cherry-picking you are talking about. I mentioned top rated and award winning sitcoms from every decade from the 50s through today. What exactly did you disagree with?
This has become a very noticeable problem. It was MatPat's Finale Film theory video and he's extremely left leaning. Glad to be back to watching a video of yours where I agree with 85-90% of it instead of the opposite :D. Also, I could never see Tucker as a dad figure...
@@mysocalledgenxlife Tucker might have 4 kids but I don't see him as a dad figure. specifically the figure part. Again, I don't mind differing Ideology but that dude is actually racist. It would be the same to me as suggesting my kids look up to Killmonger from the Black Panther. That just might be one of the things we disagree on though. I'm sure there's someone that I watch that you wouldn't watch. As a challenge though low-key dare you to surround yourself with uncomfortable things just to see what happens. This isn't aimed in a negative way at you I tell everyone I know that's picked a particular side. I challenge my communist leftist friends to watch/read Jordan Peterson, Fox News, listen to right-wing radio...etc for a whole week and see how they feel lol. In your case I guess you'll have to watch...idk John Oliver? MSNBC? while you're at it go to a pride gathering, or a church in a black neighborhood...etc. Do this for a week or 2 and see what happens.
@@Tiajuanwhat is about Tucker that gave you that view of him? I’m curious. Believe it or not, I watch media from all viewpoints so I can see what the other side is saying. I can only take so much MSNBC and CNN😂 I have surrounded myself with many uncomfortable places. Like the time I spent four years in prison. It changes your perspective on things. So I see what you’re saying. I probably think of Rachel Maddow the way you think of Tucker.
@@nataliedepriest9113 I wouldn't know anything about Rachel Maddow. Tucker Carlson gave me that view of himself. where do I start? *demeaning women in Our Military *fear mongers daily, lies and twists facts worse than any host I've seen on any network *excuses and defends actual white nationalists & echos their talking points *was openly anti-muslim and just blatantly a racist. what annoys me most is his performative bewildered face and the fact that he's constantly doing or saying things that are obviously not okay and then turns around and goes "this is just the left trying to silence me by calling me something awful!". He's like that little kid that pretends they aren't doing something they obviously are doing... Stormfront (White nationalist movement) studies Carlson because he's what they consider an expert in arguing and delivering their talking points. My favorite Tucker Carlson wholesome dad quotes: "Immigrants make our country poorer and dirtier, and more divided." "Iraq is a crappy place filled with a bunch of semi-literate primitive monkeys." "I have zero sympathy for them or a culture where people don't use toilet paper or forks" "I'm for getting along, I'm for 'color blindness' tolerance 100%, but when things radically change in your country it's okay for you to say "what is this?" and maybe I don't want to grow up in a country that looks nothing like the country I grew up in." Lastly, his 2 biggest fans. 1) James Allsup(If you don't know him look him up)...but long story short he belongs to this group. ruclips.net/video/zcoYKuoiUrY/видео.html (If you have time watch the whole video) He had this to say. "An example of someone engaging in very effective rhetoric is of course Tucker Carlson. Trucker is helping mainstream conservatives change the way they think about politics and causing a MASSIVE swath of trump voters to look deeper into many of the issues that we(white nationalists) already talk about it. The left is aware of what he's doing and...he's aware of what he's doing so it works phenomenally (chuckles)" ~ James Allsup 2) David Duke - former Grand wizard Klansmen, endorsed Donald Trump while suggesting that Tucker Carlson be his VP saying "he doesn't use the word 'white' very often, but that's the underlying message that he's showing. and he shows that there is massive racism in america against white people, while at the same time saying there's no systemic racism..but people get the message." ~ I don't believe in guilt by association but he's guilty enough. His top writer was fired for being a racist, he was fired a year later for racist texts coming to light. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck...idk it might be a Platypus but there's a good chance it's a goddamn Duck. So yeah, not an internet Dad or someone I want my children looking up to. Btw, do you have kids?
@@nataliedepriest9113 I don't know if it got deleted but I had a very detailed reply to this...I don't think I'll recreate it but I'll just say there's enough reason for as a father to keep my children as far away from Tucker as possible.
I appreciate you ending the video on a touch of Hope. I think there is an element of sadness to the story when you also realize that some of these great TV dads turned out to be played by real life, a…holes. Which can leave an unwillingness to trust any genuine character advice coming from them. I’d say it left us all with “daddy issues”.
Sounds like the problem here is that too many fathers are stepping out when they should be stepping up. Fellas, if you aren't "Man-Enough" to be a father, then keep it in your pants. Little House on the Prairie is a legit good show. Not a fan of the last episode where they destroyed Walnut Grove. Modern Family also had two really good fathers you didn't mention, Cam Tucker and Mitchell Pritchett. I wish my real dad was like Cam or Mitchell.
@@mysocalledgenxlife Recently my wife (we are recently married and trying to start a family) questioned what family life should look like because her dad died when she was very young and she didn't have a father figure. Let me introduce you to my TV dad, John Walton. We watched the entire show and all the TV movies together.
Dear god. I thought this was going to be a tv analysis instead of a point by point regurgitation of conservative talking points that haven’t really changed since the 60s with some outlandish shit as a cherry on top. Amazing
@@opaljk4835 with how the Overton Window has shifted in the past decade, everyone who isn’t a leftist is right wing. If I had to put a label on it, I would say I’m a constitutional libertarian who definitely leans more conservative when it comes to government policy. But I’m far from right wing.
The most dad-ish content I see is the woodworking content. I'm 37 and started woodworking for hobby and I discover the whole world of anglo woodworking ( I'm a brazilian ), and most of them are or GenX or Boomers and have a lot of views, a LOT. Paul Seller have a huge channel if you consider the niche. Here in Brazil Uncle Phill and Julius from Everybody hates Chris still very popular, especially Julius, because he acts like an old fashion poor/working class dad crazy about money. hahahaha Unfortunaly Brazil have faced this same issue. Our main tv shows always was focused on woman ( Soap opera here is huge ), so the strong female protagonist is a thing since 70s in our TV, but always have dads on shows, we have a really popular show called The great family, that mains character was the Dad. I think one thing that shift is the political climate, because me as a Dad figured out that being a Dad is being a little conservative ( even if I see myself as lefty ), because as a dad you cannot be that liberal as you probably used to be, because this could be bad for your children. So I think the mainstream media now is so political that there is the fear of show more conservative views on some things.
My take on Tucker and this video : Tucker is trash. He is garbage. He is a terrible role model. But let’s look at this video objectively. Bill Cosby was in this video quite a bit. Once upon a time he was America’s father in look where he is now. The video simply states that he is a role model. Not a good one or a bad one. Just that he is one. While there are a lot of people with a negative opinion about him, the fact is, there are a lot of people who like him and are fans of his. Regardless of someone’s opinions about Tucker, the simple fact is, (for those who watched Fox) he was a role model. He was on tv daily. He was is a lot of homes on a regular bases. God or bad is certainly debatable. No matter where that debate goes, it’s undeniable that he had a strong presence in a lot of homes. Like him or not, he does fall into the category of role model. Seeing him mentioned as a role model does make me nauseous. But more so, I appreciate the video being neutral and objective It would be easy to omit Bill Cosby from the video because of what we know today. But there he is front and center because at the time of the show he was a good man and a great father. The same goes for Tucker. It would be easy to omit him for obvious reasons. But like all the other big news casters, he spent a lot of time in the American home and had a huge impact on society. As much as I dislike the man, I respect the video for including him
Social programs dont destroy families, if anything they help keep them from falling apart. The wealth inequality and ongoing pressure put on everyone by late stage capitalism has made it all but impossible to survive. Offshoring jobs is the fault of capitalism also, not some feminist conspiracy for destroying nuclear families, simply caused by corporate greed chasing cheap labor. Mens classic roles have been to be providers, which is more difficult than ever, and some men haven't adapted to be able to bring other positive aspects to a relationship, so they essentially bring nothing. Women actually have choices now, thanks to feminism, instead of women just having to live with whatever a man did, so they can divorce and support themselves. Your obvious insinuation that all single moms are "welfare queens" is an old out of touch sexist view, women are starting to out earn men in many fields. The good old days that you fantasize about in TV is an illusion, reality was abuse and neglect of children and wives in many situations. The bumbling dad trope is just TV showing the reality of many deadbeat dads, and I would argue is closer to reality than the Gary Stu, close to perfect dads, in the examples you gave. Looking to television for answers, with your obvious conservative bias being injected, is laughable.
I’m sorry you’ve been so brainwashed by the media. Your opinion is one I’ve come across many times. That social program I talked about literally had government agents go to the homes of single moms and give them a check to keep the father out of the home. Your hatred of capitalism is a hatred of cronyism, globalism, and fascism. We have not had a capitalist society in decades. The social programs of LBJ was literally socialism. I never insinuated that all single moms are welfare queens. I implied that feminism has made them believe they don’t need a man and their kids don’t need a father. I have every right to share my opinions on my own channel, and I brought the receipts for my “conservative” viewpoint. While first wave feminism had some respectable goals, the second wave and beyond has literally advocated for the “a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle” position. The fact that you can’t see what this ideology has done to our society and our families is a product of the mockingbird media. And I feel sorry for you. Thanks for watching and for your comment. The engagement is always welcome.
@@mysocalledgenxlifeStop using words you don't understand, while claiming others are brainwashed. Which is rich since I could've sworn I was speaking to a pirate with all the talking points being parroted. Funny how you guys still have the red scare in you, and yet love Russia nowadays. Globalism is a direct cause of capitalism as well, as I said cheap labor is sought by capitalists to keep costs down, very basic economics. No idea how fascism plays into it, probably something about a global cabal? Keep classy and wear your tinfoil, you cant see past your own nose, and all the "research" you have done. Feminism taught women they don't need to stick around for horrible men, who there are plenty of. Everyone is lying in the media, the real truth is on newsmax! or the other laughable sources "receipts" you cite in your video. I'm sorry that actual proper studies, done by people who dedicate their lives to those fields, don't agree with your worldview. I know you've been told that all academics are brainwashed too though. Keep living in your outdated, fearful past fantasy world of oldies TV, or leave your conservative bubble, nobody really cares. Some things never change though, dragging you all kicking and screaming into the future while you are fixated on the past, is what the left has always had to do. Maybe your kids will get it, or more likely you will shove your ideals down their throats, until they go college and enjoy some freedom of thought, "indoctrination".
If you're relying on the government for material things as well as a sense of security, then you are living under a Communist government and you cannot become independent on your own Most people just want to live their lives without someone telling them what to do and if you need to rely on the government for a handout for a majority of your life, then there's a problem. You will just become a mindless drone that wishes they could break free of an abusive relationship with a control freak. And don't get me started on how dads are screwed over at divorce courts. Our system is rigged against fathers who just want to raise a family and live a peaceful life.
@@mysocalledgenxlife Stop using words you don't understand, while claiming others are brainwashed. Which is rich since I could've sworn I was speaking to a pirate with all the talking points being parroted. Funny how you guys still have the red scare in you, and yet love Russia nowadays. Globalism is a direct cause of capitalism as well, as I said cheap labor is sought by capitalists to keep costs down, very basic economics. No idea how fascism plays into it, probably something about a global cabal? Keep classy and wear your tinfoil, you cant see past your own nose, and all the "research" you have done. Feminism taught women they don't need to stick around for horrible men, who there are plenty of. Everyone is lying in the media, the real truth is on newsmax! or the other laughable sources "receipts" you cite in your video. I'm sorry that actual proper studies, done by people who dedicate their lives to those fields, don't agree with your worldview. I know you've been told that all academics are brainwashed too though. Keep living in your outdated, fearful past fantasy world of oldies TV, or leave your conservative bubble, nobody really cares. Some things never change though, dragging you all kicking and screaming into the future while you are fixated on the past, is what the left has always had to do. Maybe your kids will get it, or more likely you will shove your ideals down their throats, until they go college and enjoy some freedom of thought, "indoctrination".
@mysocalledgenxlife Stop using words you don't understand, while claiming others are brainwashed. Which is rich since I could've sworn I was speaking to a pirate with all the talking points being parroted. Funny how you guys still have the red scare in you, and yet love Russia nowadays. Globalism is a direct cause of capitalism as well, as I said cheap labor is sought by capitalists to keep costs down, very basic economics. No idea how fascism plays into it, probably something about a global cabal? Feminism taught women they don't need to stick around for horrible men, who there are plenty of. I know you cant see past your own nose, and all the "research" you have done. Everyone is lying in the media, the real truth is on newsmax! or the other laughable sources "receipts" you cite in your video. I'm sorry that actual proper studies, done by people who dedicate their lives to those fields, don't agree with your worldview. Unfortunately, you've been told that all academics are brainwashed too though. Keep living in your past fantasy world of oldies TV, or leave your conservative bubble, nobody really cares. Some things never change though, dragging you all kicking and screaming into the future while you are fixated on the past, is what the left has always had to do. Maybe your kids will get it, or more likely you will shove your ideals down their throats, until they go college and enjoy some freedom of thought, "indoctrination".
I love this exploration of how TV and culture both reflect and shape each other back and forth. I hope you keep exploring these topics, because this is very well done
Thank you!!! It was actually your DadTV video that got me thinking about this and writing down this video idea. Many thanks!!!
I think Uncle Phil was a great balance of authority, comedy & silliness.
I also look at the loss of sons. As you're watching TV, see how long it takes to see a commercial featuring a father and his son having a positive interaction. Then see how long it takes to see the next instance.
They dont want you to have a dad. They want the tv to be your new dad.
Worse, really.
They don't want anything like Dads to exist.
Not even as a device.
"They" have some tinfoil friend and go sit in the corner.
The state wants to be your parent now
@@barzdinstone3831 right. Media has never been used for anything but entertainment Propaganda doesnt exist and you're immune to subliminal messaging
They didn't want black families getting any ideas.
Michael Landon was the TV dad you could leave your kids with, and when you picked them up, they would be better humans. This applies to even non-fathers on TV.
A world where men were like Jim Rockford, Mr. T., Uncle Jessie, Optimus Prime, and Michael Knight, we boys especially never were short of great role models.
I’ve tried to pattern my life after Pa Ingles. Show love, competency, morality, and the willingness to throw-down if necessary.
This was too absolutely unhinged to really dislike. So funny
Unhinged?
Given that the current crop of ideologically corrupted TV/film writers are disinclined from writing good/positive male characters the erosion of strong father figure archetypes on screen isn’t surprising. Surreal and indeed sobering times we live in. ☹️
As a child of the 70s, I really enjoyed this video analysis. Great content , keep it coming.
My favorite t.v dads from back then were uncle Phill and Dan Conner. They are still my absolute definitive t.v dads i wish i had.
Charles Ingalls reminded me so much of my dad. It was also because I thought they looked alike.
The 2000s/2010s sitcom The middle had a strong father figure on there and it was refreshing to see a father that was steadfast, patient, and loved his family in his own way. Neil Flynn was a great TV Dad... but he is a rarity amongst family sitcoms over the last decade or so.
You are so right! I loved the Middle!
TV has gotten away from family shows. Now shows are about sex and adult situations, not fit for children to watch.
Thank you for addressing this. As a son of a single mother, I was lucky to have 2 uncles and role models like Clint Eastwood, Steve McQueen and Bruce Lee to help mold and point me in a masculine direction. Serving in the military helped temper a stoic mindset. It greatly saddens me to see how optional fathers have become in the present day family dynamic. I've never been married and I have no children and it has always pissed me off seeing media and entertainment making Homer Simpson the model and staple of fathers in the modern household. I still don't buy Gillette razors (mainly because of my magnificent beard that Odin himself would be proud of) and I never drank Bud light beer anyway, and I was even prompted to be a MGTOW for 5 years. I still have a deep feeling of wanting to be father, mentor and provider to a family of my own but in the present day climate and ever approaching my expiration date ...I don't see that happening for me.
I completely agree with you, and I am in a similar situation on the woman side. Never got married or had kids. And now the kid thing is no longer an option. I realized too late in life that a career and being a girl boss wasn’t the best choice in life. Maybe I can still find a good man to live life with…but I know the odds aren’t in my favor.
PS I wish you could post a photo of that magnificent beard! You know that shaving says a lot about a man. Like “I’m not one.” Lol
@@mysocalledgenxlife Unfortunately beards have become common place. I think it's compensation for the lack of testosterone flowing through the modern "male" body or maybe it's just plain laziness. And I've got to be honest ...I think Matt Walsh uses Just For Men.
Took the words right outta my mouth. 😥
I liked Michael Kyle from 'My Wife and Kids'. He was solving problems that he only sometimes created.
It's by design. Also nearly all fathers in animation fathers (besides Jimmy Neutron, King of the Hill, and Bob's Burger's dad's have been portrayed as bumbling idiots since The Flintstones)
I don't care what anyone thinks, outside of Cosby's extracurriculars in his private life; I still consider Heathcliff Huxtable to be a fine example of what a dad should be. My other favorites are Uncle Phil, Pa Ingles(that man PRAYED over a kid that wasnt genetically his!!) Carl Winslow, Alan Matthews from Boy Meets World, and Phillip Drummond from Diff'rent Strokes.
I was recently talking to a friend about media and nostalgia. Specifically that there have been a lot of movies and TV shows bringing back the 80s. And we’re starting to move into 90s nostalgia.
Every decade up till 2000 has been vividly unique. After that, it’s all been kind of bland. My argument was that the last 15 or 20 years we live online.
There is the yahoo chat room era. You have the MySpace era. You have the early Facebook period. You have pre and post smart phones.
2000-2010 and 2010-2020 are two decades that all blend together and don’t seem to have any real cultural stand outs (off line). At least not the way the 20s, the 40s, the 50s, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, really stood out. Each of these decades are incredibly unique to themselves.
But if we look online each decade very much has its standouts. That’s because we live online. Everything we do is online. It reminds me of the movie ready player one where the real world is ignored while the online space is vividly lived in.
And that makes sense with what this video is stating how we have lost all of our TV dads, but we have so many online dads
Great comment. And I agree. When social media started, we stopped living our own lives and started watching others live theirs.
Thought provoking content, I subscribed
Welcome and Thank you! Glad to have you .
They went to the store for cigarettes and milk
I watch "in the heat of the night" daily 😎👍
I like that show also.
I had a great father. Unfortunately he passed in 1997. One TV dad that helped form me after was jon schnider as jonathan kent on smalville. He reminded me alot of dad and even loked like him a little, lol.
Thank you for sharing. I love Bo Duke! 😊
Is that ben folds five "brick" playing in the background?
Yes. And then it transitions to The Luckiest. Great catch!
Blaming the great society for the destruction of the nuclear family is a huge reach.
There is so much data to prove it. Not a huge reach at all. The great society literally had government agents in the homes of black women giving them checks to keep fathers out.
Little House on the Prairie is too hard for me to watch now. That show kinda sucks but as a child I thought it was good
Getting better and better. Love U
My favorite t.v. dad was Steven Douglas from 'My Three Sons'. Nobody does a quizzical face like Fred MacMurray. I've been watching those episodes again lately and my favorite is when little Chip who is about 8 has a 'clunky' neighborhood girl who is basically stalking him and hanging around outside the house. Chip is being really abrupt with her. Dad tells him he has to 'be nice' to her. Asking Chip, 'what is a gentleman?' To which Chip sulkily replies, 'a gentle man'. Then Steven has a pushy woman who tricks him into coming for a romantic dinner and seemingly is undeterred by his lack of interest in her. The four of them end up on something of a disastrous double date at a dance. When Chip sees how unhappy his dad is, he demands, 'now can we tell them to take get lost.' lol. The Steven sighs, 'yeah, now we can tell them to get lost.' I'm paraphrasing.
Great vid, well laid out and good points made! tbh I wrote below before completing the video, great minds lol. :)
I feel like the trajectory went from respected and trusted media dads in the 80s and 90s to complete imbeciles in the 2000s- seriously, think about the dad on modern family, the main male leads on king of queens, everybody loves raymond, the office, and so on. Nearly every male character of the last 25 years on tv has been somehow toxic or stupid. And now, removed all together. Life sometimes imitates art. I believe there has been a targeted attack on the entire concept of wholesome masculinity over the last 25-30 years in media. People complain about race swapping or gender swapping in movie remakes. But, what about the movies and television shows that keep male characters in them but make them idiots? 21 jump street, star wars reboot with complete burn out luke skywalker etc. Masculinity was never the problem. Narcissism and sociopathy were and are. And those concepts know no gender- despite popular opinion and outdated statistics.
What happened to the father?
Family Guy and the Simpsons.
tv show called emergency. i forget if she was a reporter or what her deal was, but she was a toxic feminist. the "anything men can do, women can do better" type. she was always being "put in a box" for her safety. and at one point she pushed it too far, ran into a burning building, and needed rescuing. by a man. or something like that. it's been a long time since i've seen it so i may be getting it confused.
anyway, she was not put in the safety box because she was a woman. it was never about her abilities or lack thereof. she simply wasn't trained to deal with the dangers. if she was a he, they would still designate a safety box.
but wait, there's more. opening doors? of course a woman can get it for herself. fighting fires? sure! so why was it that before the toxic feminists supplanted men it was more common and accepted for men to do these things? SO WOMEN DON'T HAVE TO. essentially, if a woman can land herself a chivalrous man, she has a willing servant. to a point of course. no self-respecting man will allow himself to be abused by her privilege.
of course a woman doesn't HAVE to refrain from certain things, no more than a man has to. i'm equally comfortable welding together a cake stand AND baking a cake to put on it. a woman should likewise be ALLOWED to discover that level of comfort in her endeavors, without judgment, even if she chooses welding exclusively. this is expression, not identity.
which takes me to the next step in this topic. i know there are a number of factors contributing to gender dysphoria, but if we treat each other with respect, support each other when we see someone being mistreated, and allow people to engage in ANY activity without gender discrimination, maybe there would be far less identity confusion.
at the VERY end you ask, what is a woman anyways? a woman is a human with XX chromosomes. a man is a human with XY chromosomes. THAT'S IT. the few humans that are born with some other chromosomal combination are the only ones that can truly choose how they want to identify.
Gotta love how the example of "modern" sitcoms mostly include shows that started 20 years ago (or nearly 30 years ago, in the case of Everybody Loves Raymond). Lots of cherry picking going on in order to make a politically-driven point.
I put modern era as post 2010 with modern family and blackish. And I mentioned schitts creek and Ted lasso.
Never once mentioned politics outside of laws that were passed in 1965. Not sure what cherry-picking you are talking about. I mentioned top rated and award winning sitcoms from every decade from the 50s through today.
What exactly did you disagree with?
@@mysocalledgenxlifeyou just pointed out something that evokes strong emotions for this person. They have no logical counter argument.
Another mic drop! Hahahaha Loved the vid.
This has become a very noticeable problem. It was MatPat's Finale Film theory video and he's extremely left leaning.
Glad to be back to watching a video of yours where I agree with 85-90% of it instead of the opposite :D.
Also, I could never see Tucker as a dad figure...
😂😂 Tucker has four kids! He’s a total nerdy dad. Thanks for your comment. I’m glad we can agree on some things . 😊
@@mysocalledgenxlife Tucker might have 4 kids but I don't see him as a dad figure. specifically the figure part. Again, I don't mind differing Ideology but that dude is actually racist. It would be the same to me as suggesting my kids look up to Killmonger from the Black Panther.
That just might be one of the things we disagree on though. I'm sure there's someone that I watch that you wouldn't watch. As a challenge though low-key dare you to surround yourself with uncomfortable things just to see what happens. This isn't aimed in a negative way at you I tell everyone I know that's picked a particular side.
I challenge my communist leftist friends to watch/read Jordan Peterson, Fox News, listen to right-wing radio...etc for a whole week and see how they feel lol. In your case I guess you'll have to watch...idk John Oliver? MSNBC? while you're at it go to a pride gathering, or a church in a black neighborhood...etc. Do this for a week or 2 and see what happens.
@@Tiajuanwhat is about Tucker that gave you that view of him? I’m curious. Believe it or not, I watch media from all viewpoints so I can see what the other side is saying. I can only take so much MSNBC and CNN😂
I have surrounded myself with many uncomfortable places. Like the time I spent four years in prison. It changes your perspective on things. So I see what you’re saying. I probably think of Rachel Maddow the way you think of Tucker.
@@nataliedepriest9113 I wouldn't know anything about Rachel Maddow.
Tucker Carlson gave me that view of himself. where do I start?
*demeaning women in Our Military
*fear mongers daily, lies and twists facts worse than any host I've seen on any network
*excuses and defends actual white nationalists & echos their talking points
*was openly anti-muslim and just blatantly a racist.
what annoys me most is his performative bewildered face and the fact that he's constantly doing or saying things that are obviously not okay and then turns around and goes "this is just the left trying to silence me by calling me something awful!". He's like that little kid that pretends they aren't doing something they obviously are doing...
Stormfront (White nationalist movement) studies Carlson because he's what they consider an expert in arguing and delivering their talking points.
My favorite Tucker Carlson wholesome dad quotes:
"Immigrants make our country poorer and dirtier, and more divided."
"Iraq is a crappy place filled with a bunch of semi-literate primitive monkeys."
"I have zero sympathy for them or a culture where people don't use toilet paper or forks"
"I'm for getting along, I'm for 'color blindness' tolerance 100%, but when things radically change in your country it's okay for you to say "what is this?" and maybe I don't want to grow up in a country that looks nothing like the country I grew up in."
Lastly, his 2 biggest fans.
1) James Allsup(If you don't know him look him up)...but long story short he belongs to this group. ruclips.net/video/zcoYKuoiUrY/видео.html (If you have time watch the whole video)
He had this to say. "An example of someone engaging in very effective rhetoric is of course Tucker Carlson. Trucker is helping mainstream conservatives change the way they think about politics and causing a MASSIVE swath of trump voters to look deeper into many of the issues that we(white nationalists) already talk about it. The left is aware of what he's doing and...he's aware of what he's doing so it works phenomenally (chuckles)" ~ James Allsup
2) David Duke - former Grand wizard Klansmen, endorsed Donald Trump while suggesting that Tucker Carlson be his VP saying "he doesn't use the word 'white' very often, but that's the underlying message that he's showing. and he shows that there is massive racism in america against white people, while at the same time saying there's no systemic racism..but people get the message." ~
I don't believe in guilt by association but he's guilty enough. His top writer was fired for being a racist, he was fired a year later for racist texts coming to light.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck...idk it might be a Platypus but there's a good chance it's a goddamn Duck.
So yeah, not an internet Dad or someone I want my children looking up to. Btw, do you have kids?
@@nataliedepriest9113 I don't know if it got deleted but I had a very detailed reply to this...I don't think I'll recreate it but I'll just say there's enough reason for as a father to keep my children as far away from Tucker as possible.
It's astonishing to hear people even still aware of the great society, let alone aware what it did
The Cosby Show was it
I appreciate you ending the video on a touch of Hope.
I think there is an element of sadness to the story when you also realize that some of these great TV dads turned out to be played by real life, a…holes. Which can leave an unwillingness to trust any genuine character advice coming from them.
I’d say it left us all with “daddy issues”.
Oh wow, what a fantastic point! I should have included that. Thanks so much for the comment.
Ya but Ed O'Neill in Dutch (1991) was quite the opposite of Al Bundy 😎
Sounds like the problem here is that too many fathers are stepping out when they should be stepping up.
Fellas, if you aren't "Man-Enough" to be a father, then keep it in your pants.
Little House on the Prairie is a legit good show. Not a fan of the last episode where they destroyed Walnut Grove.
Modern Family also had two really good fathers you didn't mention, Cam Tucker and Mitchell Pritchett. I wish my real dad was like Cam or Mitchell.
The Waltons was a regular for me in the early 80s.
Oh the Waltons!!! I can’t believe I didn’t mention that show.
@@mysocalledgenxlife Recently my wife (we are recently married and trying to start a family) questioned what family life should look like because her dad died when she was very young and she didn't have a father figure. Let me introduce you to my TV dad, John Walton. We watched the entire show and all the TV movies together.
Dear god. I thought this was going to be a tv analysis instead of a point by point regurgitation of conservative talking points that haven’t really changed since the 60s with some outlandish shit as a cherry on top. Amazing
Conservative talking points and outlandish shit? Those are some strong words without backing up your argument.
Are you telling me you’re political ideology isn’t right wing?
@@opaljk4835 with how the Overton Window has shifted in the past decade, everyone who isn’t a leftist is right wing. If I had to put a label on it, I would say I’m a constitutional libertarian who definitely leans more conservative when it comes to government policy. But I’m far from right wing.
The most dad-ish content I see is the woodworking content. I'm 37 and started woodworking for hobby and I discover the whole world of anglo woodworking ( I'm a brazilian ), and most of them are or GenX or Boomers and have a lot of views, a LOT. Paul Seller have a huge channel if you consider the niche.
Here in Brazil Uncle Phill and Julius from Everybody hates Chris still very popular, especially Julius, because he acts like an old fashion poor/working class dad crazy about money. hahahaha
Unfortunaly Brazil have faced this same issue. Our main tv shows always was focused on woman ( Soap opera here is huge ), so the strong female protagonist is a thing since 70s in our TV, but always have dads on shows, we have a really popular show called The great family, that mains character was the Dad. I think one thing that shift is the political climate, because me as a Dad figured out that being a Dad is being a little conservative ( even if I see myself as lefty ), because as a dad you cannot be that liberal as you probably used to be, because this could be bad for your children. So I think the mainstream media now is so political that there is the fear of show more conservative views on some things.
I object to mentioning Tucker Carlson as a role model for anyone, unless lies and deception are your thing. Otherwise, good video.
One disagreement is ok. We can still be friends 😊 thanks for your comment!
You're welcome to your opinion
I mean he has a nice family
Piss baby gonna cry?
My take on Tucker and this video : Tucker is trash. He is garbage. He is a terrible role model. But let’s look at this video objectively.
Bill Cosby was in this video quite a bit. Once upon a time he was America’s father in look where he is now.
The video simply states that he is a role model. Not a good one or a bad one. Just that he is one. While there are a lot of people with a negative opinion about him, the fact is, there are a lot of people who like him and are fans of his.
Regardless of someone’s opinions about Tucker, the simple fact is, (for those who watched Fox) he was a role model. He was on tv daily. He was is a lot of homes on a regular bases. God or bad is certainly debatable. No matter where that debate goes, it’s undeniable that he had a strong presence in a lot of homes. Like him or not, he does fall into the category of role model.
Seeing him mentioned as a role model does make me nauseous. But more so, I appreciate the video being neutral and objective
It would be easy to omit Bill Cosby from the video because of what we know today. But there he is front and center because at the time of the show he was a good man and a great father. The same goes for Tucker. It would be easy to omit him for obvious reasons. But like all the other big news casters, he spent a lot of time in the American home and had a huge impact on society.
As much as I dislike the man, I respect the video for including him
Two gay Dad's or Mom's is just as good. NO, really. Stop laughing. What?
Social programs dont destroy families, if anything they help keep them from falling apart. The wealth inequality and ongoing pressure put on everyone by late stage capitalism has made it all but impossible to survive. Offshoring jobs is the fault of capitalism also, not some feminist conspiracy for destroying nuclear families, simply caused by corporate greed chasing cheap labor. Mens classic roles have been to be providers, which is more difficult than ever, and some men haven't adapted to be able to bring other positive aspects to a relationship, so they essentially bring nothing. Women actually have choices now, thanks to feminism, instead of women just having to live with whatever a man did, so they can divorce and support themselves. Your obvious insinuation that all single moms are "welfare queens" is an old out of touch sexist view, women are starting to out earn men in many fields. The good old days that you fantasize about in TV is an illusion, reality was abuse and neglect of children and wives in many situations. The bumbling dad trope is just TV showing the reality of many deadbeat dads, and I would argue is closer to reality than the Gary Stu, close to perfect dads, in the examples you gave. Looking to television for answers, with your obvious conservative bias being injected, is laughable.
I’m sorry you’ve been so brainwashed by the media. Your opinion is one I’ve come across many times. That social program I talked about literally had government agents go to the homes of single moms and give them a check to keep the father out of the home.
Your hatred of capitalism is a hatred of cronyism, globalism, and fascism. We have not had a capitalist society in decades. The social programs of LBJ was literally socialism.
I never insinuated that all single moms are welfare queens. I implied that feminism has made them believe they don’t need a man and their kids don’t need a father.
I have every right to share my opinions on my own channel, and I brought the receipts for my “conservative” viewpoint.
While first wave feminism had some respectable goals, the second wave and beyond has literally advocated for the “a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle” position. The fact that you can’t see what this ideology has done to our society and our families is a product of the mockingbird media. And I feel sorry for you. Thanks for watching and for your comment. The engagement is always welcome.
@@mysocalledgenxlifeStop using words you don't understand, while claiming others are brainwashed. Which is rich since I could've sworn I was speaking to a pirate with all the talking points being parroted. Funny how you guys still have the red scare in you, and yet love Russia nowadays. Globalism is a direct cause of capitalism as well, as I said cheap labor is sought by capitalists to keep costs down, very basic economics. No idea how fascism plays into it, probably something about a global cabal? Keep classy and wear your tinfoil, you cant see past your own nose, and all the "research" you have done. Feminism taught women they don't need to stick around for horrible men, who there are plenty of. Everyone is lying in the media, the real truth is on newsmax! or the other laughable sources "receipts" you cite in your video. I'm sorry that actual proper studies, done by people who dedicate their lives to those fields, don't agree with your worldview. I know you've been told that all academics are brainwashed too though. Keep living in your outdated, fearful past fantasy world of oldies TV, or leave your conservative bubble, nobody really cares. Some things never change though, dragging you all kicking and screaming into the future while you are fixated on the past, is what the left has always had to do. Maybe your kids will get it, or more likely you will shove your ideals down their throats, until they go college and enjoy some freedom of thought, "indoctrination".
If you're relying on the government for material things as well as a sense of security, then you are living under a Communist government and you cannot become independent on your own
Most people just want to live their lives without someone telling them what to do and if you need to rely on the government for a handout for a majority of your life, then there's a problem.
You will just become a mindless drone that wishes they could break free of an abusive relationship with a control freak.
And don't get me started on how dads are screwed over at divorce courts. Our system is rigged against fathers who just want to raise a family and live a peaceful life.
@@mysocalledgenxlife Stop using words you don't understand, while claiming others are brainwashed. Which is rich since I could've sworn I was speaking to a pirate with all the talking points being parroted. Funny how you guys still have the red scare in you, and yet love Russia nowadays. Globalism is a direct cause of capitalism as well, as I said cheap labor is sought by capitalists to keep costs down, very basic economics. No idea how fascism plays into it, probably something about a global cabal? Keep classy and wear your tinfoil, you cant see past your own nose, and all the "research" you have done. Feminism taught women they don't need to stick around for horrible men, who there are plenty of. Everyone is lying in the media, the real truth is on newsmax! or the other laughable sources "receipts" you cite in your video. I'm sorry that actual proper studies, done by people who dedicate their lives to those fields, don't agree with your worldview. I know you've been told that all academics are brainwashed too though. Keep living in your outdated, fearful past fantasy world of oldies TV, or leave your conservative bubble, nobody really cares. Some things never change though, dragging you all kicking and screaming into the future while you are fixated on the past, is what the left has always had to do. Maybe your kids will get it, or more likely you will shove your ideals down their throats, until they go college and enjoy some freedom of thought, "indoctrination".
@mysocalledgenxlife Stop using words you don't understand, while claiming others are brainwashed. Which is rich since I could've sworn I was speaking to a pirate with all the talking points being parroted. Funny how you guys still have the red scare in you, and yet love Russia nowadays. Globalism is a direct cause of capitalism as well, as I said cheap labor is sought by capitalists to keep costs down, very basic economics. No idea how fascism plays into it, probably something about a global cabal? Feminism taught women they don't need to stick around for horrible men, who there are plenty of.
I know you cant see past your own nose, and all the "research" you have done. Everyone is lying in the media, the real truth is on newsmax! or the other laughable sources "receipts" you cite in your video. I'm sorry that actual proper studies, done by people who dedicate their lives to those fields, don't agree with your worldview. Unfortunately, you've been told that all academics are brainwashed too though.
Keep living in your past fantasy world of oldies TV, or leave your conservative bubble, nobody really cares. Some things never change though, dragging you all kicking and screaming into the future while you are fixated on the past, is what the left has always had to do. Maybe your kids will get it, or more likely you will shove your ideals down their throats, until they go college and enjoy some freedom of thought, "indoctrination".
@mysocalledgenxlife
So true.
LBJ is burning in hell.
Yep and Henry Kissinger!
Indiana Jones was and still is my hero ( I am 47)
I have a video about him in the works! And we are the same age. Well, I turn 47 this year. 😊 so almost.
@@mysocalledgenxlife Oh so cool yes PLEASE make a video about Indy!!!!
@@mysocalledgenxlife PS I will be 47 this year as well looks like we are the same age.