There are a lot of people putting poor installation videos up and people follow them and do and awful job. Its why I made this video. I have personally installed hundreds of these heaters and fine tuned the position of everything to get to where it is now. It works perfectly now. It took two days to make the video during the first lockdown but I am happy with the final result. Thank you.
Hi Owen, thanks very much for these overviews. I fitted the 2kW heater on the weekend. As a side note, the vents it came with needed a 64mm and 70mm hole saw, as there is a step in the vents now. You mention this in the video. Thanks again
Really helpful clear instructions. Would’ve like to have seen dropping tank and connecting fuel. And all wiring up done too. But honestly thankyou for putting this video up👍
Video has been a great help. After watching this I bought the autoterm planar and fitted it to my T5. Really good video and description which defiiitlet swayed me into buying me fitting this model👌👌 Now it’s on I’m very happy with it, a good quality item, easy to use, runs very very quietly and gives out great heat! Thanks!!!
A top video, makes installation of this unit into a VW T5 as easy as it can be. Just get armed with the correct tools, and a decent space to do the work. We will publish our install diary in an issue of Advanture Magazine
When installed correctly there will be no fumes at all.they put out a tiny puff of smoke out of the exhaust when starting and stopping but during running there should be no smell at all And noise is very minimal. Less noisy than a standard household fan heater.
Fantastic video I'm currently installing a diesel heater under my t5. Tell me does the hot air outlet pipe become very hot. I'm actually going to put the hot air outlet through the drivers step. My heater doesn't have a return pipe. The actual screw cap holds the heater lid on. Your video is perfect by the way very well explained.
Hi. You definitely need to install the return air duct as per my video. You just remove the cap and the ducting will hold the heater together. Use a jubilee clip to make sure it stays on but don’t over tighten it and distort the casing so it touches the fan. Im assuming the heater is Chinese as you have that type of cover so they do run very hot outlet temperature. An outlet in the step will quite possibly melt the door card with a Chinese heater. I would exit via the seat base if possible. I have another video showing a few possible outlet places.
I managed to adapt a VW bracket for A Transit Custom. It'd be great if you could produce a specific one that utilised the AdBlue tank mounting bolts - remove bolts slide in your mount and put them back. Helpful video all the same.
You can do yes but it gives no adverse effects and when people self fit it often causes problems due to bad joints etc. They come plug and play for a reason.
Great video... Can I ask what is the black spray used arounf the duckting and also what did you use to treat the metal holes after cutting and what size Teh Screws did you use?
I ended up buying two small pots of primer and colour mathed paint. In little Tip-ex style pots with a built in brush. The black spray I used is Waxoyl.
Yes absolutely, you don’t want to bring cold, moist air into the heater. You want to circulate the air inside the van to make it more efficient. Also if you bring the air from outside you risk sucking exhaust fumes into the vehicle and making your own portable gas chamber.
Hi Owen, a really good easy to follow video, thank you. I am wondering about if it is possible to bring the air outlet out of the B pillar by the seat belt mount. It looks possible from the underside but may be a bit tight ?
Absolute brilliant, clear video. One question before I attack this... Can I have the outlet pipe come up between the two front seats and point towards the back of the van? Reason is I'll box this in where the hand brake is (Keeping clear of hand brake)! and just have the vent hole in the boxing aiming rearwards. Thank you in advance.
Tool list: 7mm socket 8mm socket 10mm socket 13mm socket “Star clip” = T20 or T25? TBC Flat head screwdriver Tech screws or rivnuts (not supplied with kit) Angle grinder Exhaust paste (optional) *64mm & 70mm hole saw - Important - the video is out of date and they now use a stepped grill similar to the eberspacher as described in the video* Rust proofing for hole (paint)
@@barrygiles8116 ah they twist off (at least most do) they kind of unscrew but some can be too rusty or damaged and you just have to lever them off. Good to have a few spares if doing it regularly.
Great video. Wish I’d seen this before my install. Question: the hole in the heat shielding for the exhaust is this a feature of the T6 as I don’t remember seeing it.
Yes I had a look under and can’t believe I missed the hole. Another question. The exhaust hose you use must me different from the Chinese heaters as I cut mine to day to copy your install and no longer fits the exhaust. The plane flanges at either end are slightly bigger than the concertina section. I’ll need to order another.
Thanks for sharing this ! just one question, following the constructor notice the distance between the fuel tank and the fuel pump should be 1meter max no ? in your installation you seems have more than that ? thanks
Yes, correct, however I have installed hundreds of them this way and found no issues with the distance from the tank. It’s because the pump is actually below the level of fuel in the tank and the pipework goes uphill after the pump. I would actually be surprised if the distance from the pickup to pump is more than 1.5m so only 0.5m more than advised.
Hi, great video, but I'd like to install mine under the driver's seat. From the instructions it looks like the turret plate supplied isn't used, so I'm a bit confused! It's a T5
On an underslung installation, should one duct (the main heat outlet) be inside the can and the other duct be outside or inside the van? I have one installed and the heatering duct is inside, but the other one ism just left open, outside to the cold air?
In a vehicle installation there is no need. They cause more trouble than they save. On yachts they are required. The fuel sits around much longer on a boat and bacteria grows and causes problems on boats. Road vehicles tend to have a dip tube which is cut short of the bottom of the tank so any dirt does not get sucked up anyway. Just run it every month for 30 minutes to stop bacterial growth in the heater fuel pipe. This will avoid blockages.
Thanks for making this video! I had thought of mounting it underneath to reduce cab noise but was worried it would then be louder on a campsite near others; what's your verdict on the noise levels vs in the van? Thanks!
Noise levels are always quieter with the heater fitted inside the vehicle. Its quieter outside and inside. The ducting seems to transmit more noise inside.
Is the return air part necessary? There's no mention of it in the manual and would really like to limit the number of huge holes in the floor if possible
Yes it’s absolutely necessary. Its not in the manual because the heaters usually are mounted inside the vehicle. You do not want to suck exhaust fumes and moisture into the living space
Hi Owen, I am looking at buying a Luton box van and converting it into a campervan. Probably a Ford transit. I hope to take it skiing in the French alps for a month at a time in the freezing temperatures. Would an underslung planner heater be able to function in sub zero temperatures? Also is it possible to box it in so no debris from the road can hit it? Could the exhaust from heater be extended to the very rear of the van? Where are you based please? Thanks. Michael Lewis.
Hey there. Great video! Do you recommend to fit this underslung the VW or inside under the driver seat? Witch way is less noisy inside the van? After you fit it underslung, the covers will fit back over the heater as it was? Thank you
Under drivers seat is quieter generally and much safer for the heater but space often means we have to fit underneath. Make sure the trays are complete before deciding as this can add a cost you weren’t expecting.
Owen have you tried connecting the fuel supply line into the return fuel line from the van engine.... Heard this is a way rsther than dropping the tank?? Pros n cons??
It only works on the latest T6s I believe. It definitely does not work on T5s as the return does not go to the bottom of the tank. Its not a big job to fit in the tank so we always do that.
Because it was made for self installers to do easily with tools they may already have. I mention in there that rivnuts can also be used. Its a matter of choice. Thanks for the comments.
I have to say as the distributor I an probably biassed but I think we have many hundreds or even thousands of happy customers now. You cant go wrong value for money wise. More expensive than poor quality heaters and cheaper than the ones with a name tag. Just the same quality as expensive ones for a lot less.
Not an expert but when we bought our campervan we were told not to block the gas drop out vents in the floor (cupboard under the gas hob) which provides a safe route for any gas leaks to disperse as LPG Gas is heavier than air and will drop downward through the floor vent. Hope this helps.
Its all explained in the video. Cut the exhaust pipe with a grinder or hacksaw (grinder is easier). And the heat shield is not required on this installation if done correctly exactly as per the video. In any other installation install it anywhere the exhaust is likely to contact anything combustible. Although you need to try and ensure there is nowhere that it is in contact with combustible material.
@@Heatersandfridges Thank you! I have the external mounting box, do you know if it's better to have the connectors of the cables in the box with the heater (if they fit) or out of the box for easy access/ less heat? Also, does the fuel line get hot? Is it okay if it runs along side other cables? Do you know what the minimum distance should be between the ducting and exhaust pipe/mufler? Sorry for all the questions, the manual doesn't have any of this info
@@ShadowV connectors are better in the box if they will fit. Make sure the heater is mounted the correct way up (wires out at top if on its side). Fuel pipe does not get at all hot if installed away from exhaust as it should be. All the important points are mentioned in this video. No matter that its for a VW they are all essentially the same.
www.planarheaters.co.uk is our webshop as per the video. We are the sole UK distributors. Guaranteed to be genuine UK market models with two years warranty which can be increased to three if fitted or checked over by an official service centre.
Autoterm with comfort controller (comfort so the wrong word) Worst product I ever bought. Unreliable no connection in the digital display. The installer and the manufacturer arguing between themselves who and what is causing it to be £1000 of trash
@@charliegee777 unfortunately my issues remain - you go to use it and it comes up no connection in the display. So you wake up freezing and cannot switch the heater on. The distributor who initially reached out to help is proving just as unreliable as the installer. With my experience of Autoterm, I do not recommend unreliable product with a 3 year warranty that so far has proved to be non existent. The last contact from them was that it was my fault for not living in the same town as their location. A complete waste of £1000
Hi, it most definitely needs a complete unbroken under tray installing after its completed. Without protection they will get damaged. The trays often get smashed to bits so we do need to make sure the heater is protected.
Usually no, its only possible under the drivers seat because the adblue tank is under the passenger seat on a T6. (RHD) i have another video on how to install under drivers seat.
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First video I saw on installing a diesel heater that was actually helpful, and this was the 6th or 7th I watched... Great explanation!
There are a lot of people putting poor installation videos up and people follow them and do and awful job. Its why I made this video. I have personally installed hundreds of these heaters and fine tuned the position of everything to get to where it is now. It works perfectly now. It took two days to make the video during the first lockdown but I am happy with the final result. Thank you.
I agree great video thanks
Hi Owen, thanks very much for these overviews. I fitted the 2kW heater on the weekend. As a side note, the vents it came with needed a 64mm and 70mm hole saw, as there is a step in the vents now. You mention this in the video.
Thanks again
Thanks for taking your time to make our lives easier! I will mount one myself with your previous tutorial! Greetings from Norway
Really helpful clear instructions.
Would’ve like to have seen dropping tank and connecting fuel. And all wiring up done too.
But honestly thankyou for putting this video up👍
Check out the rest of my videos. There are more that cover this job.
Video has been a great help. After watching this I bought the autoterm planar and fitted it to my T5. Really good video and description which defiiitlet swayed me into buying me fitting this model👌👌
Now it’s on I’m very happy with it, a good quality item, easy to use, runs very very quietly and gives out great heat! Thanks!!!
One of the most thorough installation videos of planar / autotherm 2d that found so far👍 (and i have the same impact gun 😁)
A top video, makes installation of this unit into a VW T5 as easy as it can be. Just get armed with the correct tools, and a decent space to do the work. We will publish our install diary in an issue of Advanture Magazine
When installed correctly there will be no fumes at all.they put out a tiny puff of smoke out of the exhaust when starting and stopping but during running there should be no smell at all And noise is very minimal. Less noisy than a standard household fan heater.
Great job ! Loads of useful info and a great help.
Fantastic video I'm currently installing a diesel heater under my t5. Tell me does the hot air outlet pipe become very hot. I'm actually going to put the hot air outlet through the drivers step. My heater doesn't have a return pipe. The actual screw cap holds the heater lid on. Your video is perfect by the way very well explained.
Hi. You definitely need to install the return air duct as per my video. You just remove the cap and the ducting will hold the heater together. Use a jubilee clip to make sure it stays on but don’t over tighten it and distort the casing so it touches the fan. Im assuming the heater is Chinese as you have that type of cover so they do run very hot outlet temperature. An outlet in the step will quite possibly melt the door card with a Chinese heater. I would exit via the seat base if possible. I have another video showing a few possible outlet places.
I managed to adapt a VW bracket for A Transit Custom. It'd be great if you could produce a specific one that utilised the AdBlue tank mounting bolts - remove bolts slide in your mount and put them back. Helpful video all the same.
Brilliant video of how to do this installation. Thanks
No problem at all. Something good to come out of lockdown 1.0
Excellent fitting video. One question. Do you think the fuel pump cable could be cut shorter. That's a lot of excess cable. Thanks.
You can do yes but it gives no adverse effects and when people self fit it often causes problems due to bad joints etc. They come plug and play for a reason.
Great video... Can I ask what is the black spray used arounf the duckting and also what did you use to treat the metal holes after cutting and what size Teh Screws did you use?
I ended up buying two small pots of primer and colour mathed paint. In little Tip-ex style pots with a built in brush. The black spray I used is Waxoyl.
Super video 😉.. i have one question .. is there a reason ,to take the air from the inside cabin ,and not from outside ?
Yes absolutely, you don’t want to bring cold, moist air into the heater. You want to circulate the air inside the van to make it more efficient. Also if you bring the air from outside you risk sucking exhaust fumes into the vehicle and making your own portable gas chamber.
@@Heatersandfridges thanks for answer ..
Hi Owen, a really good easy to follow video, thank you. I am wondering about if it is possible to bring the air outlet out of the B pillar by the seat belt mount. It looks possible from the underside but may be a bit tight ?
Its definitely possible. I have seen it done but not done it myself.
You mentioned it can go up by seatbelt - is there a picture of where it comes through from inside?
Absolute brilliant, clear video. One question before I attack this... Can I have the outlet pipe come up between the two front seats and point towards the back of the van? Reason is I'll box this in where the hand brake is (Keeping clear of hand brake)! and just have the vent hole in the boxing aiming rearwards. Thank you in advance.
Yes, thats no problem at all.
Tool list:
7mm socket
8mm socket
10mm socket
13mm socket
“Star clip” = T20 or T25? TBC
Flat head screwdriver
Tech screws or rivnuts (not supplied with kit)
Angle grinder
Exhaust paste (optional)
*64mm & 70mm hole saw - Important - the video is out of date and they now use a stepped grill similar to the eberspacher as described in the video*
Rust proofing for hole (paint)
Owen,thanks for this great video,but could you please tell me how to remove star clips?thanks Barry
Star clips?
@@Heatersandfridges taking the under tray off there is starclips in places?
@@barrygiles8116 ah they twist off (at least most do) they kind of unscrew but some can be too rusty or damaged and you just have to lever them off. Good to have a few spares if doing it regularly.
@@Heatersandfridges Thanks,i have got some just in case
Thank you so much your vídeo was very useful for me!
So I would be concerned with fumes and noise. How does something like this work regarding these factors?
Great video. Wish I’d seen this before my install. Question: the hole in the heat shielding for the exhaust is this a feature of the T6 as I don’t remember seeing it.
Marionville Multirotors thank you, yes its also on a T6. The heat shields are exactly the same on a T6 and the covers are also identical.
Yes I had a look under and can’t believe I missed the hole. Another question. The exhaust hose you use must me different from the Chinese heaters as I cut mine to day to copy your install and no longer fits the exhaust. The plane flanges at either end are slightly bigger than the concertina section. I’ll need to order another.
Hi Owen, what size tek screws do you use. Seems like quite a big hole.
@@MarionvillemodelsMultirotors hi yes chinese exhaust is a different size and not as good long term. It rusts away. Better to change for a decent one.
@@ianchrisstewart they have an 8mm head and 25mm long for the plate and exhaust parts. The pump can be a bit longer maybe. I have a selection.
Thanks for sharing this ! just one question, following the constructor notice the distance between the fuel tank and the fuel pump should be 1meter max no ? in your installation you seems have more than that ? thanks
Yes, correct, however I have installed hundreds of them this way and found no issues with the distance from the tank. It’s because the pump is actually below the level of fuel in the tank and the pipework goes uphill after the pump. I would actually be surprised if the distance from the pickup to pump is more than 1.5m so only 0.5m more than advised.
@@Heatersandfridges thanks
Hi, great video, but I'd like to install mine under the driver's seat. From the instructions it looks like the turret plate supplied isn't used, so I'm a bit confused! It's a T5
Have a look at my other videos. There is a turret plate installations too.
Hi what size is the ducting did you use. And can you use the green fuel line instead
Thanks.
Great video 👍. I notice you don’t install an inline filter between the fuel tank and the pump . Is there a reason for this ?
Yes, the reason is its not necessary in a road vehicle. Its just another place to leak and the fuel is clean and gets changed often.
Thanks Owen. Makes perfect sense to me 👍
On an underslung installation, should one duct (the main heat outlet) be inside the can and the other duct be outside or inside the van? I have one installed and the heatering duct is inside, but the other one ism just left open, outside to the cold air?
Hi Owen, thanks for your video. Should you mount a fuel filter as well?
In a vehicle installation there is no need. They cause more trouble than they save. On yachts they are required. The fuel sits around much longer on a boat and bacteria grows and causes problems on boats. Road vehicles tend to have a dip tube which is cut short of the bottom of the tank so any dirt does not get sucked up anyway. Just run it every month for 30 minutes to stop bacterial growth in the heater fuel pipe. This will avoid blockages.
Where about on the exhaust did you fit the insulating sleeve please?
Can I ask what size The self drilling bolts were to hold the underslung mounting bracket were? Thanks good Video
Thanks for making this video! I had thought of mounting it underneath to reduce cab noise but was worried it would then be louder on a campsite near others; what's your verdict on the noise levels vs in the van? Thanks!
Noise levels are always quieter with the heater fitted inside the vehicle. Its quieter outside and inside. The ducting seems to transmit more noise inside.
Bravo
Very helpful video
Is the return air part necessary? There's no mention of it in the manual and would really like to limit the number of huge holes in the floor if possible
Yes it’s absolutely necessary. Its not in the manual because the heaters usually are mounted inside the vehicle. You do not want to suck exhaust fumes and moisture into the living space
@@Heatersandfridges Thanks for the info!
very good found this most helpful.
Excellent tutorial 👌
Hi Owen,
I am looking at buying a Luton box van and converting it into a campervan. Probably a Ford transit. I hope to take it skiing in the French alps for a month at a time in the freezing temperatures. Would an underslung planner heater be able to function in sub zero temperatures? Also is it possible to box it in so no debris from the road can hit it? Could the exhaust from heater be extended to the very rear of the van? Where are you based please? Thanks. Michael Lewis.
What size Tek screw are you using ?
Thank you
I used 25mm more than suitable
Hi Owen. Great, detailed video! Do you not run a fuel filter?
No, no need on a road vehicle. We find it causes more problems than it solves
That’s good to know! Thank you.
quality job
Hi, great job! what's the cable protector called?
It comes with our looms pre installed but its kopex.
Hey there. Great video!
Do you recommend to fit this underslung the VW or inside under the driver seat? Witch way is less noisy inside the van?
After you fit it underslung, the covers will fit back over the heater as it was?
Thank you
Under drivers seat is quieter generally and much safer for the heater but space often means we have to fit underneath. Make sure the trays are complete before deciding as this can add a cost you weren’t expecting.
Owen have you tried connecting the fuel supply line into the return fuel line from the van engine.... Heard this is a way rsther than dropping the tank??
Pros n cons??
It only works on the latest T6s I believe. It definitely does not work on T5s as the return does not go to the bottom of the tank. Its not a big job to fit in the tank so we always do that.
I'm wondering if they will run on a veg oil mxture like the oil diesel cars?
They will but not for long. They will soot up so it’s not approved for use.
how long does the install usually take when having fitted under the van ? thanks
Hi great video! Do you have monting plate for vw cady 2017 4M ? Cheers . Philippe
Thanks, we use a turret plate under the drivers seat. Mounted on its side of the footwell.
@@Heatersandfridges tank you!
HOW MUCH TO FIT ONE OF THESE TO MY VAN?
Why not just use rivnuts? The second I see tekscrews it just shouts shoddy
Because it was made for self installers to do easily with tools they may already have. I mention in there that rivnuts can also be used. Its a matter of choice. Thanks for the comments.
Any feedback now its months down the line... Are you pleased with the planar...
I have to say as the distributor I an probably biassed but I think we have many hundreds or even thousands of happy customers now. You cant go wrong value for money wise. More expensive than poor quality heaters and cheaper than the ones with a name tag. Just the same quality as expensive ones for a lot less.
@@Heatersandfridges ahhh I didn't know you were... Good to hear... Just the fuel tank dropping is a worry...
@@linoleumbonypart385 there is a video for that too. Have a look in the library.
@@Heatersandfridges does it come with all nuts n bolts needed for fixing... I've got a handy son so we can do it together
@@linoleumbonypart385 You get everything except a few 25mm long tek screws.
Where are you based for fitting Owen?
what is a gas drop out ? to watch out for when running the exhaust pipe
Not an expert but when we bought our campervan we were told not to block the gas drop out vents in the floor (cupboard under the gas hob) which provides a safe route for any gas leaks to disperse as LPG Gas is heavier than air and will drop downward through the floor vent. Hope this helps.
great video that owen
Does anyone know how to cut the exhaust pipe and where is the best place for the heat shield?
Its all explained in the video. Cut the exhaust pipe with a grinder or hacksaw (grinder is easier). And the heat shield is not required on this installation if done correctly exactly as per the video. In any other installation install it anywhere the exhaust is likely to contact anything combustible. Although you need to try and ensure there is nowhere that it is in contact with combustible material.
@@Heatersandfridges Thank you! I have the external mounting box, do you know if it's better to have the connectors of the cables in the box with the heater (if they fit) or out of the box for easy access/ less heat? Also, does the fuel line get hot? Is it okay if it runs along side other cables? Do you know what the minimum distance should be between the ducting and exhaust pipe/mufler? Sorry for all the questions, the manual doesn't have any of this info
@@ShadowV connectors are better in the box if they will fit. Make sure the heater is mounted the correct way up (wires out at top if on its side). Fuel pipe does not get at all hot if installed away from exhaust as it should be. All the important points are mentioned in this video. No matter that its for a VW they are all essentially the same.
The heaters are reliable but be careful what company you use to purchase this from.
www.planarheaters.co.uk is our webshop as per the video. We are the sole UK distributors. Guaranteed to be genuine UK market models with two years warranty which can be increased to three if fitted or checked over by an official service centre.
So how do you connect to fuel supply?
If you look in my RUclips channel there is another whole video explaining it.
Did this install have a fuel filter fitted?
A fuel filter causes more trouble than it solves in a road vehicle installation when coming from the main tank. Not required as the fuel is all clean.
Good to hear thanks, just fitting one of your heaters 👍
My undertray has damage, and concerned heater will be affected. Do you have a part number for a new tray? Thanks
Sorry not got it at the moment. tPS will give it to you from your chassis number on request.
It was going so well untill he said, he use tech screws
Well all I can say is I have seen rivnuts corrode and fall out and none of my tek screws have….
But as i state, you can use rivnuts if you wish.
Autoterm with comfort
controller (comfort so the
wrong word) Worst product
I ever bought. Unreliable
no connection in the digital
display. The installer and the
manufacturer arguing between
themselves who and what is
causing it to be £1000 of trash
Why, can you explain your issues please as I'm looking at getting one of these.
@@charliegee777 unfortunately my issues remain - you go to use it and it comes up no connection in the display. So you wake up freezing and cannot switch the heater on. The distributor who initially reached out to help is proving just as unreliable as the installer. With my experience of Autoterm, I do not recommend unreliable product with a 3 year warranty that so far has proved to be non existent. The last contact from them was that it was my fault for not living in the same town as their location. A complete waste of £1000
Hi
Stupid question.
Do you put back underbody plastic back or leave it without?
Thanks
Hi, it most definitely needs a complete unbroken under tray installing after its completed. Without protection they will get damaged. The trays often get smashed to bits so we do need to make sure the heater is protected.
Is it possible to fit under passenger seat on VW T6 ,
Usually no, its only possible under the drivers seat because the adblue tank is under the passenger seat on a T6. (RHD) i have another video on how to install under drivers seat.
Thank you for replying Owen ,