There's a quite widely supported theory that Italic and Celtic languages have diverged later, pretty much like Baltic and Slavic or Indic and Iranian languages.
IHN3TAMYN italic isn’t Balto Slavic. You’re talking about indo European. Balto Slavic is just one branch that seperated from the others and so is italic
@@siratshi455 There is no such thing as Celto-Iberian, Celtic languages are not related to ancient Iberian. As for Italo-Germanic, such a theory does not exist
Celtiberian was never spoken in the lands that today belong to Portugal. They spoke Gallaeci, Celtici and Turduli (which are Celtic languages probably closer to Gaulish) and Lusitani (Which has high Celtic influence but kinda unique in its own way). But there was little to no Iberian linguistic influence in West Hispania.
Before the Indo-European Celts came to Iberia, the Neolithic people there spoke a language of which we do not know, although it was most likely related to basque, or maybe even Etruscan. And before the Neolithic farmers came from anatolia, the hunter gatherers were there, and we have no clue what their language was like
@@nicholashardy8246 hunter gatherers' language could had been something related to basque, we don't really know if basque entered iberia during the neolithic
Being Spanish, I am surprised by the amount of words that I can understand, you can deduce their meaning by how they sound and how they are written, and some are really similar to Latin words
Is it possible that the Celtiberians influenced the pronunciation of the precursors of modern Spanish, Portuguese and other Romance languages of the Iberian peninsula when they adopted the Latin of their Roman conquerors?
Celtiberians were just one of the many peoples who inhabited Iron Age Iberia. All those different peoples spoke different languages (some of them were Indo-Eurpean languages others were not): upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Languages_of_pre-Roman_Iberia.jpg/753px-Languages_of_pre-Roman_Iberia.jpg
as a Portuguese speaker it surprises me that even before I heard how the language sounded my pronunciation of the sentences was quite similar to the one in the video, and also the numbers remind me of the numbers in Portuguese.
cool Celtiberian language video Andy thanks for uploading and can you upload another language video please of an argot or cryptolect or cant name shelta and beurla reagaird :)
The Celts and Italians were probably one people in the past living in Austria and northern Italy, then some of them migrated to southern Italy. The ones left in Austria and Northern Italy developed the Celtic languages and the ones in southern Italy separated from their tribesmen developed the Italic languages.They were separated by the later Etruscans
Actually, the Celto-Italics lived in Austria and Switzerland, a group of these people migrated through Hungary and then Venice into the Italian peninsula, they displaced the Etruscans in Northern Italy, and moved downwards. The northern Italians remained Celto-Italic, whilst the southern/central italians became separated by the Etruscans and developed their own thing. Later influences from Greeks in the south and Etruscans in the north changed Italic, and invasions from the Celts re-celtified the north.
cool Celtiberian language sound so beautiful and interesting thanks for uploading and can you upload another language video please of Spanish dialect spoken in southwest Spain name murcian-spanish or murciano :)
That's not a dialect, but an accent. Dialects are way more different thant dialects. Italian or German "dialects" are hardly intelligible anong them. While murciano is a funny way of pronouncing the final "s" of otherwise perfectly normative and everyday castilian
I'm wondering if this language is somewhat a glimpse of the Talaiotic language(s) and Nuragic language(s). Ever since learning about the Bell Beakers and the Balearic Slingers, I've kinda gotten interested in these islands.
It's hard to tell because it's so old, but it is *probably* more closely related to P Celtic, unless it turns out the Celtiberians were the proto-Irish as some theories suggest, then it would technically be the predecessor to Q Celtic lol
Not necessarily, but the Celts did understand Latin even without having studied it, Julius Caesar describes how they had to change the language of internal communications because messages in Latin were easily understood by the Celts.
maybe, in many thousands of years, someone will compare todays language and be awestruck by the amount of swears😅 or maybe they will be confused to why our writing deteriorated after the year 2000
@@CanalCursoMLearning No, they don't really know it for sure. Hell, they are not even 100% sure about some old ancient forms of Latin. There are countless discussions about this.
So CeltIberian was already Indo european, thus more Celtic than Iberian, but as a Georgian I have guesses on some words you couldn’t translate, like Akaina might be meaning here. I also noticed similarities with Basque for the word “and” eta , which is “da” in Georgian. Also lots of words and maybe places ending with “eti” , just like in Georgian. Augu , which should mean violence or aggressive act is Augi in Georgian, something said aggressively towards someone, trouble or just bad. Damai - damartna or damarta is to happen something to someone. “ios” for he or whom, “is” in Georgian he/she/it. I remind you Georgians are the original Iberians of Anatolia and Caucasus who travelled in Western Europe in Neolithic times, we are homeland of wine and agriculture.
The celtiberians were basically celts and celticized Iberians they meshed cultures togerher. The script in question is the Iberian carotid but much of the vocab abs syntax is celtic.
@@And-lj5gb It really doesn't... the only think I can think of is the vowels and some consonants, but they have them in common with Spanish as well, since Spanish pronunciation was influenced by basques languahes as well.
I speak and studied basque and I don't see any obvious mutual intelibility with Celtiberian. Celtiberian is much more similar to proto-italic languages. A lot of latin verbs and vocabulary have entered basque language but the oldest basque words are different from Iberian.
Existen vestigios muchos más antiguo en el sur de España de toda Europa. Pero los blanquitos anglos no lo quieren aceptar que vienen de allí todos quieren apuntar que vinieron del centro de Europa, algo que es totalmente falso.
You can really tell how similar the (older) Celtic languages are to Italic ones.
Italo-Celtic family is true. No doubt about it. But they are still classified separately.
@@mhdfrb9971 yes both languages were the most similar of the ancient time
There's a quite widely supported theory that Italic and Celtic languages have diverged later, pretty much like Baltic and Slavic or Indic and Iranian languages.
IHN3TAMYN italic isn’t Balto Slavic. You’re talking about indo European. Balto Slavic is just one branch that seperated from the others and so is italic
@IHN3TAMYN Lmao, nope, delusional.
It comes from Celtic Languages branch which later separated
There is no doubt for me that Italo-Celtic Language family concept is true.
It is quite clear in its modern variants. i.e. Irish Gaelic "Conas atá tú?" / Spanish "¿Cómo estás tú?
@@Happydancer9 in portuguese:
Conas = como
Atá = tá or está
Tú = tu
@IHN3TAMYN what?
@MC King yes but between the Indo European there are more families, one of which is Italo Celtic
@@siratshi455 There is no such thing as Celto-Iberian, Celtic languages are not related to ancient Iberian. As for Italo-Germanic, such a theory does not exist
As a portuguese this made me sad becouse i can't learn this language any more. I wish i could learn it.
Thank you so much.
Celtiberian was never spoken in the lands that today belong to Portugal.
They spoke Gallaeci, Celtici and Turduli (which are Celtic languages probably closer to Gaulish) and Lusitani (Which has high Celtic influence but kinda unique in its own way).
But there was little to no Iberian linguistic influence in West Hispania.
@@FaithfulOfBrigantia thank you! Finally someone who does recognise that in portugal there's not only lusitanians.
@@FaithfulOfBrigantia turduli language wasn't celtic, it was pre indoeuropean
@@---jj6xl without reason cause the first portuguese during the middle ages were descendents of galaicians
As a Spaniard this makes me happy
Lo mismo:D
Yo tambien pero soy mexicano :)
Trueee, we barely know about our prehistoric culture!
Same Brother
Se parece al euskera un poco, no sé si alguien euskaldun leerá esto y si no es así me puede corregir, pero se da un aire
it's really no wonder gaul and iberia had no trouble switching to latin when it was already so similar to what they were speaking
Wow! The Language of my ancestors was beautiful.
The numbers are surprisingly similar to those of reconstructed Proto-Indo-European.
Very cool always love Celtic languages
It has some resemblance with proto Latin and Gaulish
Before the Indo-European Celts came to Iberia, the Neolithic people there spoke a language of which we do not know, although it was most likely related to basque, or maybe even Etruscan. And before the Neolithic farmers came from anatolia, the hunter gatherers were there, and we have no clue what their language was like
@@nicholashardy8246 hunter gatherers' language could had been something related to basque, we don't really know if basque entered iberia during the neolithic
Being Spanish, I am surprised by the amount of words that I can understand, you can deduce their meaning by how they sound and how they are written, and some are really similar to Latin words
Is it possible that the Celtiberians influenced the pronunciation of the precursors of modern Spanish, Portuguese and other Romance languages of the Iberian peninsula when they adopted the Latin of their Roman conquerors?
Celtiberians were just one of the many peoples who inhabited Iron Age Iberia. All those different peoples spoke different languages (some of them were Indo-Eurpean languages others were not): upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Languages_of_pre-Roman_Iberia.jpg/753px-Languages_of_pre-Roman_Iberia.jpg
This Is a language I would like to learn! I loved its sound and the great reading.
Hope to see iberians paleo-europeans languages on this channel
I wish we can get back the Iberian language, the original tongue of the Spaniards. Despite being extinct, there has to be a way to reclaim it.
like hebrew? haha
I missed your channel so much😔😔😔 thankkkkyouuu so much for coming back 💓💓💓💓💓💓💓💓💓
as a Portuguese speaker it surprises me that even before I heard how the language sounded my pronunciation of the sentences was quite similar to the one in the video, and also the numbers remind me of the numbers in Portuguese.
👍👍👍🤓 very interesting well done
cool Celtiberian language video Andy thanks for uploading and can you upload another language video please of an argot or cryptolect or cant name shelta and beurla reagaird :)
Da hell did I watch....beautiful as Celt-Iberian sounded, hard as hell to pronounce.
If you speak eukera or spanish it’ll be easy
The Celts and Italians were probably one people in the past living in Austria and northern Italy, then some of them migrated to southern Italy. The ones left in Austria and Northern Italy developed the Celtic languages and the ones in southern Italy separated from their tribesmen developed the Italic languages.They were separated by the later Etruscans
Etruscans were already in Italy way before Latin and Roman customs showed up...
Actually, the Celto-Italics lived in Austria and Switzerland, a group of these people migrated through Hungary and then Venice into the Italian peninsula, they displaced the Etruscans in Northern Italy, and moved downwards. The northern Italians remained Celto-Italic, whilst the southern/central italians became separated by the Etruscans and developed their own thing. Later influences from Greeks in the south and Etruscans in the north changed Italic, and invasions from the Celts re-celtified the north.
cool Celtiberian language sound so beautiful and interesting thanks for uploading and can you upload another language video please of Spanish dialect spoken in southwest Spain name murcian-spanish or murciano :)
That's not a dialect, but an accent. Dialects are way more different thant dialects. Italian or German "dialects" are hardly intelligible anong them. While murciano is a funny way of pronouncing the final "s" of otherwise perfectly normative and everyday castilian
Fascinating. Amazing.
Apparently it sounds very close to gaulish language.
Lol, I actually live in a Celtiberian area
Celtics langs are consistent and have a continuumm linkage its pretty
For anyone who spoke Irish, Welsh, Breton, or Scottish Gaelic out there, I ask you guys.
Do you really understand that language?
Yes
It was so cool.
Is Ligurian also an Italo-Celtic language?
I'm wondering if this language is somewhat a glimpse of the Talaiotic language(s) and Nuragic language(s).
Ever since learning about the Bell Beakers and the Balearic Slingers, I've kinda gotten interested in these islands.
We can learn it.
I am a native speaker of portuguese.
Os números são iguais em português. The number is equal in portuguese and spanish.
A bit q Celtic like Irish, Gaelic and Manx.
It's hard to tell because it's so old, but it is *probably* more closely related to P Celtic, unless it turns out the Celtiberians were the proto-Irish as some theories suggest, then it would technically be the predecessor to Q Celtic lol
I'm just nowrealizing how southern Celtic languages must have been somehow intelligible to Romans at the time.
Sort of, the Celtic languages influenced Latin, Oscan and Etruscan did as well.
Not necessarily, but the Celts did understand Latin even without having studied it, Julius Caesar describes how they had to change the language of internal communications because messages in Latin were easily understood by the Celts.
maybe, in many thousands of years, someone will compare todays language and be awestruck by the amount of swears😅 or maybe they will be confused to why our writing deteriorated after the year 2000
Could you reupload or remake your Gothic videos?
wow qué cool
I wonder what Iberian sounded like. Nobody knows
maybe euskera or old euskera is the most similar to iberian
In fact they do know how Iberian sounded but don't know what it means (the same than with Etruscan)
@@CanalCursoMLearning No, they don't really know it for sure. Hell, they are not even 100% sure about some old ancient forms of Latin. There are countless discussions about this.
The ancient language of the portuguese and Spanish people
The motherland of Scottish , Welsh and Irish
Wait holy shit it means that Celto-Italian languages separated adn then recombined.
you only showed the numbers but no regular words
How are the sounds for these languages reconstructed?
Me suena a basque
So CeltIberian was already Indo european, thus more Celtic than Iberian, but as a Georgian I have guesses on some words you couldn’t translate, like Akaina might be meaning here. I also noticed similarities with Basque for the word “and” eta , which is “da” in Georgian. Also lots of words and maybe places ending with “eti” , just like in Georgian.
Augu , which should mean violence or aggressive act is Augi in Georgian, something said aggressively towards someone, trouble or just bad. Damai - damartna or damarta is to happen something to someone. “ios” for he or whom, “is” in Georgian he/she/it. I remind you Georgians are the original Iberians of Anatolia and Caucasus who travelled in Western Europe in Neolithic times, we are homeland of wine and agriculture.
The celtiberians were basically celts and celticized Iberians they meshed cultures togerher. The script in question is the Iberian carotid but much of the vocab abs syntax is celtic.
Sounds like Basque to me even it's a PIE language..
This! I was about to write the same. It just feels like it has a lot of the same sound clusters that are typical to Basque.
@@And-lj5gb It really doesn't... the only think I can think of is the vowels and some consonants, but they have them in common with Spanish as well, since Spanish pronunciation was influenced by basques languahes as well.
Basque is partially influenced by the Celtic languages, but not more so than other romance languages
@@And-lj5gb I don't know if Basque and Iberia are related? Or influenced each other?
I speak and studied basque and I don't see any obvious mutual intelibility with Celtiberian. Celtiberian is much more similar to proto-italic languages. A lot of latin verbs and vocabulary have entered basque language but the oldest basque words are different from Iberian.
That would be because Basque is not an Indo-European language like Celtiberian and Latin
Why the numbers sound like Latin?
Dracarys!!!!!!!!
Lengua Celta Suroeste de la peninsula Castuo Portuges.
I wonder how closely it should had been to Old Gallaecian
didnt expect it to be so similar to latin
the alphabet was sylabary just like the Japanese one.. very interesting
Celtiberians borrowed their sylabary from Iberians
I'm totally confused.
Why?
I was amazed, it sounds like an Indo-European language.
It is in fact a Celtic language (so it is obviously IE)
So the is a Celtic language not a Italic
The name is Celtiberian so it is obviouly a Celtic language
This sounds like spanish but spanish doesn't have the nasal and harsh sounds as celtiberan.
Parece vasco
No
@@hipocresia sí, el uso de las k, z así como los auxiliares
I am superficially reminded of Lithuanian, most likely because that is one of that ancient languages.
Basque vibes
Basque
This language is similar like baltic languages
Existen vestigios muchos más antiguo en el sur de España de toda Europa. Pero los blanquitos anglos no lo quieren aceptar que vienen de allí todos quieren apuntar que vinieron del centro de Europa, algo que es totalmente falso.
sounded like an Anatolian language
Why is the Spanish flag there?
The fathers of the Galicians
Wow, I am Celtiberian but this sounds more like what I would have expected South American Spanish to become with Aztec influence.
No se siente hispano en ningún sentido...ezzeto en lazzz zetazzz