Question : "Who has the biggest sail ship ?" British : Me, of course French : Non , c'est moi (no it's me) British : NO ! Me ! French : NON ! Moi ! (no ! me !) British : NO ! Me ! French : NON ! Moi ! (no ! me !) British : NO ! Me ! French : NON ! Moi ! (no ! me !) British : NO ! ME ! Spanish, Italian, Swedish : But we do have some too British and French : NO, YOU DON'T !!! Love you guys, from France !
Well if we're talking warships then the British HMS Victoria was the largest. The French had the Valmy in second and the Americans in third with the USS Pennsylvania and the Spanish in fourth with the Santissima Trinidad. This is the best I could find with my research
@@krls3215 The Trinidad was not the only ship in history with 4 decks, the French "Valmy" and American "USS Pennsylvania" (The first rate built in 1837, not the Battleship) both were built and had 4 decks, although both with less guns
You forgot the Ming dynasty "treasure ships." Here's a description... And remember these were all sail no engines... "Incredibly, the largest ships in the fleet (called "baoshan," or "treasure ships") were likely between 440 and 538 feet long by 210 feet wide. The 4-decked baoshan had an estimated displacement of 20-30,000 tons, roughly 1/3 to 1/2 the displacement of modern American aircraft carriers. Each had nine masts on its deck, rigged with square sails that could be adjusted in series to maximize efficiency in different wind conditions. The Yongle Emperor ordered the construction of an amazing 62 or 63 such ships for Zheng He's first voyage, in 1405. Extant records show that another 48 were ordered in 1408, plus 41 more in 1419, along with 185 smaller ships throughout that time."
All those tales of "sea monsters" sinking ships make so much more sense when you realise that ships were barely the size of a regular modern day pleasure yacht for most of human history.
Yep, and there were WAY more whales alive back then and they were bigger and one of the food they ate was giant squid, so imagine you're in a tiny ship and you happen upon a whale eating a squid and having no concept of what either animal is all you see is tentacles and teeth and god forbid the fighting animals get too close to the ship and touch it slightly - it could break the ship!
Santisima trinidas was bigger that l’ocean. 3.000 tonns vs 2200 of displacement. 60m vs 54m long. 130 cannons vs 80. 1000 men vs 700. In every aspect santisima trinidad was bigger. The rest of the ships are not ships of the line. If we count that, we could count modern sail ships like the sea cloud, 109m long.
Largest pure sailing warship was Turkish Mahmudiye 1829 (+6000 tons), second largest were French Valmy 1847, which were actually c.5500 tons of displacement.Other large were Pennsylvania 1837 (5140 tn.), Dvenadtsat Apostolov 1841 (c.4870 t.), Queen 1839 (+5000 tn.)
No. Océan weight was 5098 tons, 150tons bigger than the 4 950 Santissima. Océan class carried 118 canons, but never 80 canons. You're confusing it with the Bucentaure, a 2 deck french ship carrying 86 canons and weighting 3 875 tons. Océan class crew was about 1130 Sailors. 1050 for the Santissima Trinidad. You are again confusing it with the Bucentaure which effectivly carried 800 Sailors. But still not 700 as you said. Also, talking about canons, yes Océan class carried less canons than the Santissima. But it was well know that Spanish ships carried smaller caliber canons, and less quality canons than its european counterparts. The french ambassador in Madrid M. de Montmorin said : corruption reign in Spanish arsenals alongside the lack of crew training. Observators sent by the kingdom of France, such as Joseph-Alphonse de Véri noted : The King of Spain thinking his navy is strong by the look of it, is trying his best to engage it in a conflict, yet ignore that his carcass of ships, better looking ships in Europe, are served with only few crews all lacking of experience of training. Santissima Trinidad was bigger and heavier than its older french counterpart Bretagne, but never than the Océan.
@@jesuslorenzoorta8921 Antes aparece la barca de pescar de Enrique VIII que mencionar barcos relevantes de la Marina española. Los ingleses son así y su historía (que es la que predomina) es más falsa que la historia de las planchas de los mormones
Would be awesome if he put in Khufu ship from 4500 years ago, which was bigger than the viking ship. And the oldest complete ship still in existence. (although it's not a sailing ship, we know from reliefs that similar ships existed with sails at the time.)
@@SCP-sd5uu The Unite Ship was French Ship during the 1st French Revoulution, before Napoleon became Emperor..Jack Aubery was Junior Officer around the Time of Lord Horatio Nelson, The Movie M&C is around the End era of Napolionic Wars..But the Ship that HMS Suprise was..French & was called Unite.
@@scobeyrowley5115 The Chinese do not need to exaggerate the data on the size of the ships; they have imperial records recording all of the details about the making of those ships. Faking imperial records in those days would lead to death, and plus the Yongle emperor also witnessed those ships in person and Zheng He was his most trusted man to handle the project.
@@twood2032 chinese history is a series of exaggerations, their historians record armies whose numbers are so large they make herodotus' accounts seem believable
@@angelf2966 I ain’t speaking Spanish brother, what you read is the English translation of the word. Let’s not pretend you speak English every time you say a word that has English origins or a even a proper noun that does You say “estados unidos” for United States right ?
From what I can remember, Great Eastern was stupendously massive when she stood complete. She was the largest ship of her time, and unlike Titanic, there wasn't even a competition. Titanic was one of three sister ships roughly equal in size. Titanic, Britannic and Olympic. Other ships of that time, though smaller, weren't smaller by much. However back when Great Eastern was made, she was SO much larger than second place, it wasn't even funny. At least, if my memory does indeed serve me correct here.
The "Industrial Revolution" was about equipping the British Navy - hence the Empire - for resources. Bigger ships, heavier guns, longer at sea. Alternatives to wood was needed. Stronger, durable, mass produced to a standard that was already in place. So = metal ores, mining, factories, railways, steam machines, housing for working communities, food for the masses - deep ploughs, canals, barges. There was necessity = there was invention. More is better. Albion Rules the Waves.
there is a huge gap between Viking long boats and the Pinta. the creator could have included some ships build in the middle ages like cogs or Venetian/Ottoman triremes with sails
Impressive ships! However, I do think that the video could have done with the phenomenally large treasure ships that Zheng He sailed with during his voyages around the Indian Ocean in the 15th century.
*The largest wooden warship was the Padre Eterno de Portugal 🇵🇹. It was built in the province of Rio de Janeiro 🇧🇷 and was 73 meters long and carried 164 artillery pieces.
@@caljucotcas you forgot alot of ship and nation !!! Portugal was by far the biggest and most power full for 400 years, and not 1 ship.... Botafogo was greatest of all galeons made.
Not enough civilian ships IMHO, the merchant clipper and packet ships were absolute peak in terms of sailing ship design and were often large and things of beauty. Military ships probably have greater appeal but personally I recognize names like "Star of India", "Cutty Stark", "Bark Europa", and the "Eagle" (military operated, I know, but it has the build and style of a merchant vessel).
Good. Very interesting. Put this in Slo Mo to enjoy it more. - [A ship that is rarely mentioned in the West - "Mahmudiye" _ Ottoman Navy, 1828 128 guns on 3 decks On completion - largest sailing ship
One thing is for sure, Europeans owned the age of sail... well, and the industrial age, and the space age, and the information age... seriously yts, leave some ages for the rest of us!
The first artificial satellite, the first animal in space, the first human in space and the first space station were achieved by the USSR, a country with most of their population, industry and wealth in… Europe.
You forget about Javanese Jong, its also a sail ship type. This ship have its own title as sailing fortress. With average 144+ meter of length. The biggest of its have the displacement weight of 5k tonne and can carry upto 1000 of soldier. A ship that become a nightmare for both European and pirate.
The greatest naval power in the 14th, 15th, 16th and 17th centuries were the Portuguese. No Portuguese Galleons? The Galleon Botafogo had 300 cannons in 1600. This is a very biased analysis. A maior potência naval nos séculos XIV, XV e XVI e XVII foram os portugueses. Nenhum Galeão português? O Galeão Botafogo tinha 300 canhões em 1600. Ess é uma análise muito tendenciosa.
I've been to the Cutty Sark (before it burned), the Victory, and the Warrior. The Victory is a once-in-a-lifetime experience, highly recommended. It's in Portsmouth.
and it's definitely something to be proud of! the Ocean class ships were huge and legendary. Unfortunately, they were too bulky to compete with Britain's royal navy
Cool video, but pre last ship - HMS Warrior, its steam-powered armoured frigate. And the last ship - SS Great Eastern, its also iron from iron, its steamboat civil ship. So both these and few before isnt classic sails-wood-wind ships, its iron sailing steam ships(with steam engine), thats another sub class of sails ships, thats why comparing that with no engine ones kinda unfair. And no offence, that was just some addition. Again, overall this video was fire, there many ships i didnt heard about, big thanks for your work)
Lol, no where does he say it's just classic sails-wood-wind ships. You made up your own category then blame him for not keeping to it. It said sail ship size comparison. Those are all sail ships. Btw it's not a competition, it has nothing to do with fairness.
Los navíos de línea españoles eran más grandes que los ingleses, es más el navio de línea, español, de tercera 74 cañones "Princesa" fue capturado por los ingleses y lo utilizaron como base para construir el famoso HMS Victory 👌🏻
instead of adding fictional ships or a steam ship which happens to still have some sails, this clip could include sailing ships still in use in today's navies to train new cadets etc. the Italian, Romanian, Spanish, German and other navy still employ sail ships. would have been nice to compare them to well known historical ships.
funny that "La Concord" had a crew compliment of over 300 and a weight of 300 tons with the Beagle being a much larger ship. 550 but requiring half the crew. Even for war. Some countries were really good at packing in the crew I guess, while some were able to get by with half the numbers for much larger ships. And if we are looking at nations, France is not known for its navy and never really has been lol. Maybe that is the difference. Once you get to the Vasa, the numbers seem get normalized, but for size of ship with crew complement, England sure knew what they were doing. Better example is the hms trincomalee. Weighing 1447 tons but only requiring typically between 284 and 315 officers and men The much smaller La Concorde was less than a quarter of that size but required the same amount for crew complement. That is wild.
France is known to make efficient sailing ships.French ships were surely the best for their sailing abilities, their strenght/sturdiness and the capacity of the french to carry heavier guns than their counterparts, making the french ships pretty dangerous. The problem of the french navy during its entier history, isnt the ships themself, but the funds and the lack of experienced sailors especially just after the revolution, which saw nearly 50% of the experienced navy officers and skilled sailors leaving the navy for the army but firstly leaving the country. Many sailors during the napoleonic wars came from the army but also the merchant navy but couldnt be all trained properly in only 15years. Great-Britain was well known for its crews and the quality of its training and generally its sea culture. furthermore, Great-Britain obtened naval dominance as Great-Britain maintained a strong navy whatever events occured in its history and maintained a great amount of funds to its navy. Which wasnt the case for its rivals France and Spain.
With all due respect to the creator of the video, it is funny that he shows English ships from the 16th century as if they were marvels of naval engineering or had formidable power. If we compare them with Portuguese ships from the same period, the English ships were like paper boats, while the Golden Hind (late 16th century) weighed only 110 tons, the São João Baptista, also known as Botafogo (mid-16th century) weighed 1,000 tons and had 366 artillery pieces. Even in the 17th century, the Portuguese still made powerful ships like the Padre Eterno, weighing 3,000 tons and carrying 164 artillery pieces, and the Spanish also made powerful ships (Real Felipe, Glorioso, Príncipe de Asturias, Pelayo) although they only appear a few times in this video. No Dutch ships, not even some of the most famous ones like the De Zeven Provinciën, Brederode or Eendracht, appear in this video. Danish ships like Trefoldighed or Christianus V. And Russian ships like Shtandart, Goto Predestinatsia and Rozhdestvo Christovo.
In all the known history of the sea and ships it does not appear that this presentation is true ‘ultimate’ by the standards of all nations and civilizations.
Jong ships from java is roughly 80 meters long, and treasure ship owned by cheng ho from ming dynasty is 120 meters, Asian ships were massive back then, it'd be much more interesting if you don't only focus to European ships
I find it strange that many ships on this list are only famous for people who sailed on them, rather than for their design. If innovative design is taken into consideration the greatest sailing ship of all time, The Sovereign of the Seas 1637, should get a mention.
They weren't as impressive in size for their time. Dutch ship mostly dominated for a time due to their superior build quality and nimbleness. As well as the skill of the sailors, and a good bit of luck. But in terms of size, they weren't nameworthy.
To be honest the ships was not as big as I expected. With what amount of storage of resources and men they reported to carry. Must be really disturbingly crowded.
@ well take viking ship for example. It has been stated able to carry 60-80 men. Can’t see how it is able to carry over 60 armed and geared up warriors and with resources on that in the video. Or Golden hind and santa maria ships like it also stated to be able to carry from 40-80 men.
@@TheRealRealMClovin Most of the voyages would go along the coast, laying anchor overnight. For longer trips (f.e. Britain) you would have support cargo ships with supplies. 60 men would be on a warship just during battle. Otherwise half of that. On cross oceanic routes (Iceland, Greenland, America) even less people. And bigger ships - video shows Oseberg ship, considered one of the least sea-worthy viking ship ever found (really low free-board)
that's a stretch putting steam ships like warrior and Great Britain and then the magnificent paddle steamer Great Eastern in the list is going beyond what is a sailing ship
@@jadr3123 Dude, I just leave you to read about this ship. The greatest ever made at that time and for year to come. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/São_João_Baptista_(galleon)
Who is Christopher Kolumbus?Maybe a car salesman from Minnesota...Cristóbal Colón sounds better...Does Guillermo Shakespeare, Carlos Darwin or Ernesto Shakelton sounds better too?
I'm assuming this is ONLY ships that crossed the Atlantic at some point since so many things are left out? Even with that requirement, this list is quite lacking.
Question : "Who has the biggest sail ship ?"
British : Me, of course
French : Non , c'est moi (no it's me)
British : NO ! Me !
French : NON ! Moi ! (no ! me !)
British : NO ! Me !
French : NON ! Moi ! (no ! me !)
British : NO ! Me !
French : NON ! Moi ! (no ! me !)
British : NO ! ME !
Spanish, Italian, Swedish : But we do have some too
British and French : NO, YOU DON'T !!!
Love you guys, from France !
Well if we're talking warships then the British HMS Victoria was the largest. The French had the Valmy in second and the Americans in third with the USS Pennsylvania and the Spanish in fourth with the Santissima Trinidad. This is the best I could find with my research
Santísima Trinidad, the only ship in history with 4 decks and 140 guns, 4,902 tons. 63.36 meters.
Victory 3,556 tons, 104 guns. 69.3 meters.
Lócean 2,700 tons, 118 guns. 65 meters.
@@krls3215 The Trinidad was not the only ship in history with 4 decks, the French "Valmy" and American "USS Pennsylvania" (The first rate built in 1837, not the Battleship) both were built and had 4 decks, although both with less guns
@@TaitLawrence-xl2xb..... You're right, I didn't know about Valmy, and the information on Wikipedia is confusing about Pennsylvania.
@ I know lol, I had to do plenty of research myself to figure out the truth
Columbus and his men had balls for sure to cross the Atlantic on those little boats.
You forgot the Ming dynasty "treasure ships."
Here's a description... And remember these were all sail no engines...
"Incredibly, the largest ships in the fleet (called "baoshan," or "treasure ships") were likely between 440 and 538 feet long by 210 feet wide. The 4-decked baoshan had an estimated displacement of 20-30,000 tons, roughly 1/3 to 1/2 the displacement of modern American aircraft carriers. Each had nine masts on its deck, rigged with square sails that could be adjusted in series to maximize efficiency in different wind conditions.
The Yongle Emperor ordered the construction of an amazing 62 or 63 such ships for Zheng He's first voyage, in 1405. Extant records show that another 48 were ordered in 1408, plus 41 more in 1419, along with 185 smaller ships throughout that time."
All those tales of "sea monsters" sinking ships make so much more sense when you realise that ships were barely the size of a regular modern day pleasure yacht for most of human history.
Yep, and there were WAY more whales alive back then and they were bigger and one of the food they ate was giant squid, so imagine you're in a tiny ship and you happen upon a whale eating a squid and having no concept of what either animal is all you see is tentacles and teeth and god forbid the fighting animals get too close to the ship and touch it slightly - it could break the ship!
Portuguese Ships: I'm a joke to you?
Их не было
@Helluck English pls
The automatic translator is not working for you
Pretty much.
@@Helluck no
I'm not sure the Vasa counts. It never sailed. It traveled further under the water than it did over it😂
It sailed for 1.3 km, so yes, it did sail. Also it's one of the oldest ships we still have, that's not a replica. So i think it's appropriate.
Santisima trinidas was bigger that l’ocean. 3.000 tonns vs 2200 of displacement. 60m vs 54m long. 130 cannons vs 80. 1000 men vs 700. In every aspect santisima trinidad was bigger. The rest of the ships are not ships of the line. If we count that, we could count modern sail ships like the sea cloud, 109m long.
Largest pure sailing warship was Turkish Mahmudiye 1829 (+6000 tons), second largest were French Valmy 1847, which were actually c.5500 tons of displacement.Other large were Pennsylvania 1837 (5140 tn.), Dvenadtsat Apostolov 1841 (c.4870 t.), Queen 1839 (+5000 tn.)
No. Océan weight was 5098 tons, 150tons bigger than the 4 950 Santissima.
Océan class carried 118 canons, but never 80 canons. You're confusing it with the Bucentaure, a 2 deck french ship carrying 86 canons and weighting 3 875 tons.
Océan class crew was about 1130 Sailors. 1050 for the Santissima Trinidad.
You are again confusing it with the Bucentaure which effectivly carried 800 Sailors. But still not 700 as you said.
Also, talking about canons, yes Océan class carried less canons than the Santissima. But it was well know that Spanish ships carried smaller caliber canons, and less quality canons than its european counterparts. The french ambassador in Madrid M. de Montmorin said : corruption reign in Spanish arsenals alongside the lack of crew training.
Observators sent by the kingdom of France, such as Joseph-Alphonse de Véri noted : The King of Spain thinking his navy is strong by the look of it, is trying his best to engage it in a conflict, yet ignore that his carcass of ships, better looking ships in Europe, are served with only few crews all lacking of experience of training.
Santissima Trinidad was bigger and heavier than its older french counterpart Bretagne, but never than the Océan.
Crossing the unknown Atlantic with those small boats. Damn!
Yeah Vikings were brutal
@@anul6801 Yes, that is right , the only thing they did was grape , steal , loot and kill really brutal
@@anul6801 Portugueses too
@@anul6801 vikings didn't really cross the atlantic, as much as sailing along the top edge from island to island
@@DrTheRich they made it from Europe to America.
400 años siendo una potencia marítima y solo aparecen 4 barcos españoles
Es un vídeo anglo.
@@angelf2966La.misma basura propagandistica de siempre. Cada vez queda menos para que se acabe la mentira
@@jesuslorenzoorta8921 y mucha suerte hemos tenido...
There's always space
@@jesuslorenzoorta8921 Antes aparece la barca de pescar de Enrique VIII que mencionar barcos relevantes de la Marina española. Los ingleses son así y su historía (que es la que predomina) es más falsa que la historia de las planchas de los mormones
No Portgual or Dutch? Strange
The flying Dutch 😂
(Ficticional)
Would be awesome if he put in Khufu ship from 4500 years ago, which was bigger than the viking ship. And the oldest complete ship still in existence.
(although it's not a sailing ship, we know from reliefs that similar ships existed with sails at the time.)
Agreed. Nothing at all pre Viking, either. Ancient Mediterranean didn't deserve a mention but some silly movie ships do?
H.M.S Suprise ?!
From the greatest sail era movie of all
you do know that "Unite" is HMS Suprise bud? it was Buildt by French in 1793 & Launched in 1794, Captured in 1976 by HMS Inconstant (Royal Navy /UK)
@@NordicTG
You mean 1876?
@@SCP-sd5uu The Unite Ship was French Ship during the 1st French Revoulution, before Napoleon became Emperor..Jack Aubery was Junior Officer around the Time of Lord Horatio Nelson, The Movie M&C is around the End era of Napolionic Wars..But the Ship that HMS Suprise was..French & was called Unite.
what about bǎochuán ships from the ming dynasty?...
They were too big for this video. Hahaha xD
Inaccuracy is the name of this channel's game it seems. Lol
The historical sources may have exaggerated the size of the Ming dynasty ships
@@scobeyrowley5115 The Chinese do not need to exaggerate the data on the size of the ships; they have imperial records recording all of the details about the making of those ships. Faking imperial records in those days would lead to death, and plus the Yongle emperor also witnessed those ships in person and Zheng He was his most trusted man to handle the project.
@@twood2032 chinese history is a series of exaggerations, their historians record armies whose numbers are so large they make herodotus' accounts seem believable
Damn the Nina and Pinta are so much smaller than I expected.
La Niña, not Nina.
@@angelf2966Is La not The in Spanish? Cause in that case The Nina is no different than La Nina
@@battleoid2411 La Niña (with Ñ).
@@angelf2966 cool dude, I don't speak Spanish nor do I wish to learn it, I'm sure that's great Spanish grammar though you should feel proud
@@angelf2966 I ain’t speaking Spanish brother, what you read is the English translation of the word.
Let’s not pretend you speak English every time you say a word that has English origins or a even a proper noun that does
You say “estados unidos” for United States right ?
The Moshulu is the biggest sail ship. I was on it.
From what I can remember, Great Eastern was stupendously massive when she stood complete. She was the largest ship of her time, and unlike Titanic, there wasn't even a competition.
Titanic was one of three sister ships roughly equal in size. Titanic, Britannic and Olympic. Other ships of that time, though smaller, weren't smaller by much. However back when Great Eastern was made, she was SO much larger than second place, it wasn't even funny. At least, if my memory does indeed serve me correct here.
Epoche of sale ships prolonged over 3000 years, as much as 20 times longer than era of motorised ships. Thanks for this collected pictures and data!
4500 years
Interesting but what about those Chinese exploration ships that sent as far as Africa? What about roman, phonecian and green ships?
The Spanish Trinidad coming in to view brought the "Mucho Canons" meme right up in my mind
A bit Anglocentric?
I was going to say Eurocentric, but yes. They'd rather include fictional ships rather than a Haida war canoe or any of the huge junks from China.
Not Anglo centric enough…
The "Industrial Revolution" was about equipping the British Navy - hence the Empire - for resources.
Bigger ships, heavier guns, longer at sea. Alternatives to wood was needed. Stronger, durable, mass produced to a standard that was already in place.
So = metal ores, mining, factories, railways, steam machines, housing for working communities, food for the masses - deep ploughs, canals, barges. There was necessity = there was invention. More is better.
Albion Rules the Waves.
y los galeones? San Jose, Santa Ana, Principe, jajajajajaj haaa que es ingles, ya, jajajajaj
there is a huge gap between Viking long boats and the Pinta. the creator could have included some ships build in the middle ages like cogs or Venetian/Ottoman triremes with sails
Não tem um unico navio português !!!
Impressive ships! However, I do think that the video could have done with the phenomenally large treasure ships that Zheng He sailed with during his voyages around the Indian Ocean in the 15th century.
Oh yeah those insane chinese ships. I guess the video is a bit western centric
*The largest wooden warship was the Padre Eterno de Portugal 🇵🇹. It was built in the province of Rio de Janeiro 🇧🇷 and was 73 meters long and carried 164 artillery pieces.
Esto es Ingles .....
Los demás no existimos
It wasn't the largest wooden warship, by far...
E o Botafogo com 300 canhões não conta ?
@@gabrielhenrique8302 Portugal y España abrieron las rutas marítimas.
@@rocobalboa1826Primeiramente Portugal, no te olvides que Magallanes era portugues
What? No U.S.S. Constitution?
Lol
I forgot, lol
thats pretty much what Trincomalee was a uk Constitution
@@caljucotcas Would have liked to see how the American 1st rate would have compared.
@@caljucotcas you forgot alot of ship and nation !!! Portugal was by far the biggest and most power full for 400 years, and not 1 ship.... Botafogo was greatest of all galeons made.
yeah, that's the one i was waiting for
Where are the dutch, portuguese and chinese ships
Not enough civilian ships IMHO, the merchant clipper and packet ships were absolute peak in terms of sailing ship design and were often large and things of beauty. Military ships probably have greater appeal but personally I recognize names like "Star of India", "Cutty Stark", "Bark Europa", and the "Eagle" (military operated, I know, but it has the build and style of a merchant vessel).
Great Eastern has the silhouette of those early WWI battlecruiser.
Awesome video.
Good. Very interesting.
Put this in Slo Mo to enjoy it more.
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[A ship that is rarely mentioned in the West -
"Mahmudiye" _ Ottoman Navy, 1828
128 guns on 3 decks
On completion - largest sailing ship
How the hell do you fail to include the USS Constitution, the oldest commission warship afloat, but you include the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman?
US ships in the age of sail are pretty irrelevant
To all Shipwrights and naval architects everywhere I salute you
Nice video bro!
Appreciate it
No Portuguese ships of the 15th - 16th Centuries? Caravels and Carracks showing here are all Spanish.
One thing is for sure, Europeans owned the age of sail... well, and the industrial age, and the space age, and the information age... seriously yts, leave some ages for the rest of us!
To have some ages for yourself, you need to be around for a while.
Not the space age. The Americans owned that one.
@@qasimmir7117 Same thing, USA is an English speaking European colony.
The first artificial satellite, the first animal in space, the first human in space and the first space station were achieved by the USSR, a country with most of their population, industry and wealth in… Europe.
You forget about Javanese Jong, its also a sail ship type. This ship have its own title as sailing fortress. With average 144+ meter of length. The biggest of its have the displacement weight of 5k tonne and can carry upto 1000 of soldier.
A ship that become a nightmare for both European and pirate.
Edt: the length are calculated based of these ship, either from Vasa or Flor de lamar. The Javanese Jong are 4-5 Times bigger than both of those ship
No Portugal ;-;
The greatest naval power in the 14th, 15th, 16th and 17th centuries were the Portuguese. No Portuguese Galleons? The Galleon Botafogo had 300 cannons in 1600. This is a very biased analysis.
A maior potência naval nos séculos XIV, XV e XVI e XVII foram os portugueses. Nenhum Galeão português? O Galeão Botafogo tinha 300 canhões em 1600. Ess é uma análise muito tendenciosa.
Throw in a WWII era destroyer and cruiser for reference.
I've been to the Cutty Sark (before it burned), the Victory, and the Warrior. The Victory is a once-in-a-lifetime experience, highly recommended. It's in Portsmouth.
4:10 "Still the most beautiful ship in the world."
I would remove all steam ships and all fictional ships from that list and add some of the more modern sailing ships.
4:35 biggest ship in my country
and it's definitely something to be proud of! the Ocean class ships were huge and legendary. Unfortunately, they were too bulky to compete with Britain's royal navy
btw HMS Implacable was a french ship launched in 1795 and captured by british after the battle of Trafalgar
You are right
Russians have also Sedov and Krusenstern
Cool video, but pre last ship - HMS Warrior, its steam-powered armoured frigate. And the last ship - SS Great Eastern, its also iron from iron, its steamboat civil ship. So both these and few before isnt classic sails-wood-wind ships, its iron sailing steam ships(with steam engine), thats another sub class of sails ships, thats why comparing that with no engine ones kinda unfair. And no offence, that was just some addition. Again, overall this video was fire, there many ships i didnt heard about, big thanks for your work)
Lol, no where does he say it's just classic sails-wood-wind ships. You made up your own category then blame him for not keeping to it.
It said sail ship size comparison. Those are all sail ships.
Btw it's not a competition, it has nothing to do with fairness.
Los navíos de línea españoles eran más grandes que los ingleses, es más el navio de línea, español, de tercera 74 cañones "Princesa" fue capturado por los ingleses y lo utilizaron como base para construir el famoso HMS Victory 👌🏻
That was so cool, thanks.
No list is complete without the legendary HMS Sovereign of the Seas....
me waiting for the schooner Wyoming too show 😢
How come this get taken down?
I deleted it, -made corrections -and reuploaded.
instead of adding fictional ships or a steam ship which happens to still have some sails, this clip could include sailing ships still in use in today's navies to train new cadets etc. the Italian, Romanian, Spanish, German and other navy still employ sail ships. would have been nice to compare them to well known historical ships.
That steamship was fully able to sail without steam. And all those modern ships you mention likely have engines too...
No Portuguese ships??
I liked the idea but I wish you had back lit the ships with the sun. They were all in shadow and I couldn't see them that well.
funny that "La Concord" had a crew compliment of over 300 and a weight of 300 tons with the Beagle being a much larger ship. 550 but requiring half the crew. Even for war.
Some countries were really good at packing in the crew I guess, while some were able to get by with half the numbers for much larger ships. And if we are looking at nations, France is not known for its navy and never really has been lol. Maybe that is the difference. Once you get to the Vasa, the numbers seem get normalized, but for size of ship with crew complement, England sure knew what they were doing.
Better example is the hms trincomalee. Weighing 1447 tons but only requiring typically between 284 and 315 officers and men
The much smaller La Concorde was less than a quarter of that size but required the same amount for crew complement. That is wild.
France is known to make efficient sailing ships.French ships were surely the best for their sailing abilities, their strenght/sturdiness and the capacity of the french to carry heavier guns than their counterparts, making the french ships pretty dangerous.
The problem of the french navy during its entier history, isnt the ships themself, but the funds and the lack of experienced sailors especially just after the revolution, which saw nearly 50% of the experienced navy officers and skilled sailors leaving the navy for the army but firstly leaving the country. Many sailors during the napoleonic wars came from the army but also the merchant navy but couldnt be all trained properly in only 15years.
Great-Britain was well known for its crews and the quality of its training and generally its sea culture. furthermore, Great-Britain obtened naval dominance as Great-Britain maintained a strong navy whatever events occured in its history and maintained a great amount of funds to its navy. Which wasnt the case for its rivals France and Spain.
With all due respect to the creator of the video, it is funny that he shows English ships from the 16th century as if they were marvels of naval engineering or had formidable power. If we compare them with Portuguese ships from the same period, the English ships were like paper boats, while the Golden Hind (late 16th century) weighed only 110 tons, the São João Baptista, also known as Botafogo (mid-16th century) weighed 1,000 tons and had 366 artillery pieces. Even in the 17th century, the Portuguese still made powerful ships like the Padre Eterno, weighing 3,000 tons and carrying 164 artillery pieces, and the Spanish also made powerful ships (Real Felipe, Glorioso, Príncipe de Asturias, Pelayo) although they only appear a few times in this video. No Dutch ships, not even some of the most famous ones like the De Zeven Provinciën, Brederode or Eendracht, appear in this video. Danish ships like Trefoldighed or Christianus V. And Russian ships like Shtandart, Goto Predestinatsia and Rozhdestvo Christovo.
Я понимаю, что российские корабли не участвовали в колонизации Азии, Америки и Африки, но хотя бы один можно было упомянуть ради приличия
There are no decent Russians. Russian naval history is just one fuck up after another
Disappointed some American ships weren't included. Clipper ships, and of course, USS Constitution.
I think the star of India would have been a good mention.
I sailed as crew on that ship!
ok ok but the most beautiful is "Amerigo Vespucci"
You forgot Mahmudiye Galleon which built by Ottoman Empire. Its length was 76.15m and width was 21.22m. It had 128 cannons in 3 decks.
the "padre eterno" the biggest Galleon ever made is missing... I know its difficult to get info about it but, it existed
E o Botafogo com 300 canhões.
In all the known history of the sea and ships it does not appear that this presentation is true ‘ultimate’ by the standards of all nations and civilizations.
who says it's by "the standards of all nations and civilizations"?
Santísima Trinidad,And juan Sebastián el cano ❤❤❤
You forgot the HMS Duke of Kent which is a 170 gun First Rate SOTL that was never built but planned.
How about some late 19th century early 20th century sailing vessels?
El Santísima Trinidad (4900 toneladas) 136 cañones - The Holy Trinity (4900 tons)
Santissima Trinidad ❤❤❤
Jong ships from java is roughly 80 meters long, and treasure ship owned by cheng ho from ming dynasty is 120 meters, Asian ships were massive back then, it'd be much more interesting if you don't only focus to European ships
That is the worst Vasa model I've ever seen. And it's such a well documented ship too.
the models are not particularly accurate
I find it strange that many ships on this list are only famous for people who sailed on them, rather than for their design. If innovative design is taken into consideration the greatest sailing ship of all time, The Sovereign of the Seas 1637, should get a mention.
very nice great eastern model!
Seeing the Black Pearl made me so happy, my favorite ship of all time easily
Can it be "of all time" if it never existed?
@ Yes it can. Given its technically a real ship even if it can’t sail on its own, I’d say it still counts too
OKM THIS IS INTERESTING
For an utlimate comparison, you're missing an awful lot of legendary ships.
Fine, you sit through a 2 hour video of just a camera moving past ships...
Where are the dutch ships ?, voc etc, they ones ruled the seas
Piratas caribeños
They weren't as impressive in size for their time. Dutch ship mostly dominated for a time due to their superior build quality and nimbleness. As well as the skill of the sailors, and a good bit of luck. But in terms of size, they weren't nameworthy.
I thought I'm gonna see Chinese treasure ships here
To be honest the ships was not as big as I expected. With what amount of storage of resources and men they reported to carry. Must be really disturbingly crowded.
I think on some navel ships Hammocks would be some 21-16 inches apart vertical. So very cozy.
@ well take viking ship for example.
It has been stated able to carry 60-80 men.
Can’t see how it is able to carry over 60 armed and geared up warriors and with resources on that in the video.
Or Golden hind and santa maria ships like it also stated to be able to carry from 40-80 men.
@@TheRealRealMClovin Most of the voyages would go along the coast, laying anchor overnight. For longer trips (f.e. Britain) you would have support cargo ships with supplies. 60 men would be on a warship just during battle. Otherwise half of that.
On cross oceanic routes (Iceland, Greenland, America) even less people.
And bigger ships - video shows Oseberg ship, considered one of the least sea-worthy viking ship ever found (really low free-board)
Hmm sadly no Flying P-Liner (~6000t)
I was going to ask the same thing!
right off the bat: which viking long ship? Skeid? Snekkja?
The largest ship in the 14th century was the Javanese Jung
Indian ships were the biggest till 18th century
that's a stretch putting steam ships like warrior and Great Britain and then the magnificent paddle steamer Great Eastern in the list is going beyond what is a sailing ship
Please do traditional boats from around the world like south east asia and africa
interesting that Wiki says Océan from 1790 had a Displacement of 2700 tons....
You should study more history !!!
I have a detailed blueprint map of the entire HMS Victory
Is this a joke? Black pearl, flyng dutchman?😂😂😂😂 as a portuguese, this vídeo is really a joke guys 😂😂😂😂
And then the dreadnoughts showed up
No USS Constitution?
The last two ships are steam powered.
Would have been interesting to see chinese ships too
Funny to use midle age spanish ships for comparison when it was Portugal who devoloped them. Is it deliberate or just ignorance?!
Ignorance. But you need to recognize that no Portuguese ship of that era is as famous as the Columbus or Elcano ships.
@@jadr3123francisco de almeida controlled all indian ocean in the battle of diu and has open the indic ocean to european countries
@@jadr3123 Dude, I just leave you to read about this ship. The greatest ever made at that time and for year to come. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/São_João_Baptista_(galleon)
or maybe you are just taking it way to seriously...
@@DrTheRich ohhhh it was all a joke
Where is Zheng He's treasure ship from the Ming dynasty? British lover?
Poor video you dont put a single Portuguese ship !!! When the portuguese was the top high tech country on construction and inovation !!!
He also didn't put any Indian or Chinese drips which were biggest till 18th century
weeeh weeh video bad because my country ship not in weeeeh weeh... cry about it.
@@DrTheRich Its not about my country its about historian facts other country like China also use to have huge ships !!!!
Any ship from Far East? Zheng He giant junk, Manila Galleon or Javanese Pati Unus?
Who is Christopher Kolumbus?Maybe a car salesman from Minnesota...Cristóbal Colón sounds better...Does Guillermo Shakespeare, Carlos Darwin or Ernesto Shakelton sounds better too?
There were many sizes for Vikings ships.
Its Colombo, no K.
Portuguese ships should be here too.
I'm assuming this is ONLY ships that crossed the Atlantic at some point since so many things are left out? Even with that requirement, this list is quite lacking.
What about the Wyoming & the ships of the Chinese treasure fleet?
4:12 Poor Italy.
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