Zurich ATC were excellent. Clear and calm communications. They fully understood the high cockpit work load. Checked with the pilot that the landing gear was down and locked! "How's the situation on board" and "just follow the car all the way" quickly established all was ok and kept things easy for the pilots who probably hadn't had a chance to plan any for any ground manoeuvres. Excellent work by all involved.
@@gerhardhh9787 Yeah, I was watching the map, and given the short distance from the runway to C55, the follow-me car was probably unnecessary. Note that I am NOT criticizing. Given the unusual landing and the anticipated high stress, it was a very nice offer from ATC--just one more accommodation to ease the pilots' stress. Well done!
Skyguide training baby! :D haha just joking, but one of the best ATC training in the world, not the one, but one of them. I tried to postulate, exams to enter was so intense and difficult even for people like me working in aviation for years.
Many thanks for uploading this video! I was a passenger on this flight.. FIRST OFF - THANKS to the pilots of Qatari Airways! The flight crew got a bit nervous but overall maintained composure. Of course we were oblivious to what the emergency was, although it was something serious enough to bring us mid flight into ZHR during what was a routine flight when most everybody was asleep, including myself. Most of the passengers found out about the smoke issue as we were able to see news reports about our flight a couple of hours later. THANK GOD WE WERE OVER THE EUROPEAN LANDMASS .. with that happening over the Atlantic the implications would have been dicey to say the least. AGAIN THANKS SWISS ATC and QATARI PILOTS - GOD BLESS.
Something I love about european controllers compared to US controllers is they're happy to speak slower and clearer, and then everything only needs to be said once. So many times on american ATC they speak a million miles an hour and have to repeat themselves 3 times.
Thanks to everyone who told me about this incident via Twitter and email. I gave it full priority and I've been working on it for many hours to bring it up today!! Give a BIG LIKE for these pilots and the Swiss ATCs who cooperated and worked very professional on a Saturday pick hour morning! =)
VASAviation - I always see this flight depart from kmia, the way the videos are presented with the graphics is brilliant . Swiss atc were great. And also the captain kept calm in that situation, addicted to this Chanel thanks
The TWR has a very calming voice and that is extremely important in an emergency. Calm and soft and no rush at all. And a big Like for the gear reminder. Easy to forget things when there are smoke and an ongoing emergency.
Excellent English and nearly neutral accents. Those female ATC's should teach radio discipline. Very professional job ladies. To bad I can't say the same for the pilots..
I disagree to some extent. (Unnecessarily) bad phraseology. "Descend/Climb TO altitude" is a big no no. E.g: It's "descend 5000ft" and never "descend to 5000ft". Small difference with potentially big consequences. Very basic rules of RTF are not respected here.
Polschinski POB will included in the FP Fuel wise is not important in this case because crew were damping fuel... however I’m sure it was reported on the first emergency call.
Great video. Always look forward to watching them. Question, what are the CAT 1 through CAT 3 they were talking about between time stamp 0:45 and 2:45?
they opted for a cat 1 approach. This gives the pilot maximum control and the ability to land softly and modulate breaking with the correct flap/spoiler configuration for a potential passenger evacuation. Also, smoke in the flight deck suggests that there may be electrical system damage. It would be unwise to give the aircraft full automatic control when you can't say for sure if these systems have been damaged or not.
That's not right +mcdonaldc1989 . They were cleared to land by Approachd and then with Tower after the frequency change. They didn't receive clearance on their first approach.
@@MarkRose1337 Definitely on top of the "Stupid laws" list. Someone maybe can start a pirate bay for UK ATC. Hard to track a listening device and then some network fiddling so you can't trace the origin. =)
In Germany listening (and even more interfering with) air traffic radio communications is illegal. To take part or listen to air traffic communications you need a "Funkzeugnis", which would mean a radio operator license on the one hand, and even if you have such a license, e.g. as tow driver, Ops or ATC, legally you can only listen to those frequencies on duty.
could an aviator explain how a 777 is still overweight for landing and needs to dump fuel after flying round about 6 to 7 hrs from Miami, i.e. fuel for approx. 7 hrs left in the tanks
what does mayday mean? how is it different from emergency declaration? I watched your other videos, ATC usually asks for souls on board and fuel remaining for emergency, but not in this case. So I guess the two situations are somewhat different.
681726 mayday means that theres a direct threat to the safety of the aircraft. A Pan Call means that theres a importent situation, but no direct threat. A Pilot feeling sick is a Pan emergency, a engine fire or a fire onboard is a mayday emergency. If you just say declearing an emergency it doesn't get clear weather or not there's a direct threat to the aircraft
You can declare an emergency both ways, if you do not state the nature of the emergency immediately, they will ask for sure. Just declaring an emergency can most often be found while kind of checked in and in some sort of established communication. The MAYDAY or PAN PAN code words repeated three times are intended in radio communication ( not only aircraft but also ships for example ) to be easily recognized and catching attention from any stations listening. Especially on ships for example while listening to the radio in the background you start to kind of filter and only get more alert and actively listen if you recognize your callsigns Bering addressed or something like suche Code words. Furthermore in Radio communications such code words usually call for a certain radio discipline and not possibly interrupting or blocking frequency.
@@juzzlookin That's moronic... Calling an emergency won't save you any fucking time since you'll get stuck with the paperwork in the time it would have taken you to land, and no sane pilot would do that... Also they weren't even fucking close to where they wanted to go idiot...
They need a longer approach time, in this case to prepare the cabin for an emergency landing. Earlier in the clip it was because they were too high,. An aircraft can be still to high or fast for the approach, especially if checklist still need to be completed. ATC will throw in a few extra turns into final flight path to give more 'track miles'
Is there really a large demand for a Miami to Doha route? Who flys, except exchange students and the occasional business traveler? It doesn't seem profitable.
B773 usually refers to a 777-300 (non-ER), although at least two carriers will use the code B773 for them (Air China for 3-class 77Ws and China Eastern).
They offered Cat III in case the smoke was so bad they couldn't see the instruments and had to do an autoland. Like the B747 in Dubai that crashed because they couldn't see anything in the cockpit.
Another good video. The smoke must have dissipated after the initial Mayday, otherwise I would not have expected them to do that 360 on final waiting for the cabin. If you're on fire get on the ground. Swiss 111?
Eric Guggi aims l was being pedantic... In England it is measured in millibars, also in some other parts of Europe. Only Eastern bloc areas measure in hectopascals in mainland Europe
If you have a plane with too much weight, you have to flare really gently as not to overstress the airframe on touchdown. The crew of the 777 couldn't dump fuel until this point because of system problems, so they expected to land too heavy. The CAT3 with autoland lands the plane by autopilot with a preset flare maneuver made for normal weights, the pilots wouldn't be able to control the softness of the touchdown, so I assume, thats why they requested the CAT1 approach.
From Miami to Doha, and they still need to dump fuel over Germany because of an overweight landing. Strange. I'm also surprised ATC never asked for remaining fuel and souls on board.
Monish Johnson In the event of a possible fire a Mayday is the best option incase the fire quickly escalates and they need to land faster with the emergency services.
That's the first time I've heard the Tower controller ask the pilots to confirm gear down and locked. Odd request, since they never mentioned having any issue with their landing gear.
@@andij605 hearing the pilots reaction I wondered if somehow in the cockpit workload they did not yet get to that checklist item and have been quite happy about the friendly reminder.
Can they poop their fuel into lake constance? Isnt this like a nature reserve? He could have just vectored them to Davos for the fuel dump, thats where it belongs.
Have they learned nothing from Swiss air 111...if there is any smoke conduct an emergency descent, fly direct to the airport and disregard fuel dumping.
LeTang Well in this case political stuff is not important, if there's a runway and it would be good for emergency landing they are going to use it - and for sure this is right^^
I believe you are sick in your brain. The pilot was super-polite and thanked the ATC's multiple times... "But, but, but he's an arab, he has to be misogynic, otherwise my conception of the world is endangered... " haahahaaha you are super-pathetic
No I won't...I've set a timer and will be notified when the life-stream of the beheading starts... Next off is a blonde, blue-eyed, danish mother of three! So excited !!
Good job by everyone but really baffled how a most basic (and potentially critical) RTF phraseology rule is not respected by Swiss ATC in this instance. E.g. it must never be "descend TO 5000ft", but "descend 5000ft". The "TO" uttered before the altitude clearance can easily be misunderstood for a "TWO", creating a totally unnecessary risk of misunderstanding with regard to the actually cleared altitude. In this particular case this risk of misunderstanding was admittedly neglibible, but considering how consistently the "TO" was used before the altitude value, I suspect it's a systematic issue. Really really odd, and not very professional, to be honest. Serious incidents and near misses have been the result of this...
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Those ladies are handling very well. The Qatar pilots are very polite too.
Thats the way to do it
By the book
Zurich ATC were excellent. Clear and calm communications. They fully understood the high cockpit work load. Checked with the pilot that the landing gear was down and locked! "How's the situation on board" and "just follow the car all the way" quickly established all was ok and kept things easy for the pilots who probably hadn't had a chance to plan any for any ground manoeuvres. Excellent work by all involved.
The Swiss are known to be perfectionists, and in this situation they sure were. Great work by all'.
The tower ATC was my daughter. Happy to hear she did a good job.🙂
Learn something from Swiss ATC
@@gerhardhh9787 Yeah, I was watching the map, and given the short distance from the runway to C55, the follow-me car was probably unnecessary. Note that I am NOT criticizing. Given the unusual landing and the anticipated high stress, it was a very nice offer from ATC--just one more accommodation to ease the pilots' stress. Well done!
wow, The swiss atc was super chilled
Skyguide training baby! :D haha just joking, but one of the best ATC training in the world, not the one, but one of them. I tried to postulate, exams to enter was so intense and difficult even for people like me working in aviation for years.
1:07 sure, just wait until he's in German airspace before you approve fuel dumping :D
Hani au dänkt😂
Many thanks for uploading this video! I was a passenger on this flight.. FIRST OFF - THANKS to the pilots of Qatari Airways! The flight crew got a bit nervous but overall maintained composure. Of course we were oblivious to what the emergency was, although it was something serious enough to bring us mid flight into ZHR during what was a routine flight when most everybody was asleep, including myself. Most of the passengers found out about the smoke issue as we were able to see news reports about our flight a couple of hours later. THANK GOD WE WERE OVER THE EUROPEAN LANDMASS .. with that happening over the Atlantic the implications would have been dicey to say the least. AGAIN THANKS SWISS ATC and QATARI PILOTS - GOD BLESS.
Hey Jaime, thanks for sharing your experience! Glad everyone was OK! =)
God does not exist idiot.
Very glad to hear everything went as smoothly as possible. ATC and the cockpit wow calm, cool, collected and executed what they have trained for.
Well said jonathan
Man, i love this stuff. Someone declares an emergency and everyone works hand in hand to solve the problem. aviation is so cool!
All Very professional, there was no ambiguity, if someone wasn't sure they ask for clarification. great work to all involved.
Indeed. The controller made a mistake in phraseology when she instructed "descend to 5000 feet", but that would be nitpicking.
Please skyguide don't say : "Roger" .... it doesn't exist in legal coms, it's "wilco" or "copy" or "reedback is correct"
Statuquo rubish, hear it all the time.
It's just european ATC. They don't ask rubish.
Something I love about european controllers compared to US controllers is they're happy to speak slower and clearer, and then everything only needs to be said once. So many times on american ATC they speak a million miles an hour and have to repeat themselves 3 times.
Thanks to everyone who told me about this incident via Twitter and email. I gave it full priority and I've been working on it for many hours to bring it up today!!
Give a BIG LIKE for these pilots and the Swiss ATCs who cooperated and worked very professional on a Saturday pick hour morning! =)
Nice work! Thank you for sharing~
Good work
VASAviation - I always see this flight depart from kmia, the way the videos are presented with the graphics is brilliant . Swiss atc were great. And also the captain kept calm in that situation, addicted to this Chanel thanks
Thank you. This is first rate!
For a second, I was wondering how that plane was gonna fit in that airport, then I realized it wasn't to scale. xD
Man I can listen to those female ATC the whole day
Faikar Widjanarko she’s probably 45 or so
Swiss female ATCOs are indeed nice :)
You can play it as easy listening background music. While studying or just for relaxing. 😉
wtf
Wow the way they handled the situation is much appreciated. Really good work done by the ladies (of atc).
Great! I was pretty surprised when suddenly on saturday a 777 flew over my house, usually rwy 16 isn't in use for approaches ;)
I get a 777 over flying me once a week, it stands out like a sore thumb compared to the normal 737 a320. I would like more actually :)
Ruben Kelevra at 4,000 feet I hope not :)
Swiss Tower ATC so sweet
The TWR has a very calming voice and that is extremely important in an emergency. Calm and soft and no rush at all. And a big Like for the gear reminder. Easy to forget things when there are smoke and an ongoing emergency.
I'm sure one day a pilot will finish his comms with a "hello RUclips"
Hahaha ! This joke is totaly underated! :)
really good handling from atc there
Love the way your videos are getting better! The way you represented the 777 on the runway 😍 lovin' it!
Always improving! =)
VASAviation - :)
All teams on this were extremely professional. Was wonderful to hear. Politeness, calmness, professionalism. All round. Outstanding.
final approach lady sounds super pro
The ATC (tower) have a beautiful voice! love it.
I lost it with the 'follow me' vehicle, nice vid!
Excellent English and nearly neutral accents.
Those female ATC's should teach radio discipline.
Very professional job ladies.
To bad I can't say the same for the pilots..
I disagree to some extent. (Unnecessarily) bad phraseology. "Descend/Climb TO altitude" is a big no no. E.g: It's "descend 5000ft" and never "descend to 5000ft". Small difference with potentially big consequences. Very basic rules of RTF are not respected here.
taekyon2 sorry mate, it's correct to say TO when referring altitudes, but not TO when referring to FL... climb FLxxx/descend to altitude xxxx ft
I came from Miami last week on the same aircraft type and registration!
Well done both sides !!
I got a bit nervous when I tracked the landing on FR24 yesterday. very nice video!
I kind of want to buy Zurich ATC some sushi and a drink 😍
Nice lady controllers, thanks VASAviation team very nice videos :)
My pleasure! :)
Gran Trabajo como siempre ...!!
Gracias! :)
Great job, this must have taken awhile to put together. Thanks
I hope the other plane vacated C55 in time.
Hahahaha good one! It's just a map, obviously.
Another great video!
Thanks, Ethan!
I am surprised no one asked for number of souls on board and amount of fuel left.
Maybe i'ts only mandatory in the states. The FAA has different rules i guess
Polschinski POB will included in the FP Fuel wise is not important in this case because crew were damping fuel... however I’m sure it was reported on the first emergency call.
İbrahim H Çağlayan In some situations the tower can find it out via the Flight Number (Not Callsign) by getting information from the Airline.
@@Polschinski It is routinely asked in Europe too
It’s also available on transponder which are mandatory
I love to hear ladies voices on the frequency.
Did they ever find out the source of smoke? Scary!
Yesterday, QTR778 from MIA to DOH diverted to KBOS, got no idea why.
They came in on one wing and one prayer.
Great job!
Thanks! :)
i just love itt
Another great vid !
Thanks! :)
He said "We need to dump fuel, can we do it on the way to final?", not what you've written. Nevertheless the video is great
Thanks! :)
Ground controller: most Swiss accent and pace of speech ever 😂
How did you manage to record these conversation? Using a SDR ?
What does "turn left/right heading x" mean? To turn from current position to x degrees in the direction specified?
Turning from present position to some degrees in the compass. If I turn heading 270º, I'm turning west.
do i missed altimeter clearance from atc..???
Great video. Always look forward to watching them. Question, what are the CAT 1 through CAT 3 they were talking about between time stamp 0:45 and 2:45?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_landing_system
See the section about ILS categories (CAT 1, 2 and 3)
I suppose they would opt for the CAT3 approach in case of smoke in cockpit if the smoke is too dense. CAT3 is an autoland approach.
But in a CAT3 approach, the braking is also controlled, which may be problematic in an overweight landing such as this.
they opted for a cat 1 approach. This gives the pilot maximum control and the ability to land softly and modulate breaking with the correct flap/spoiler configuration for a potential passenger evacuation. Also, smoke in the flight deck suggests that there may be electrical system damage. It would be unwise to give the aircraft full automatic control when you can't say for sure if these systems have been damaged or not.
They're cleared to land twice :))
That's not right +mcdonaldc1989 . They were cleared to land by Approachd and then with Tower after the frequency change.
They didn't receive clearance on their first approach.
nice
And the reason for the fire in the cockpit?
Where do you find those audios though, i thought they weren't public in most parts of europe
It's the UK that doesn't have them. Read the FAQ for why: www.liveatc.net/faq/
@@MarkRose1337 Definitely on top of the "Stupid laws" list. Someone maybe can start a pirate bay for UK ATC. Hard to track a listening device and then some network fiddling so you can't trace the origin. =)
In Germany listening (and even more interfering with) air traffic radio communications is illegal. To take part or listen to air traffic communications you need a "Funkzeugnis", which would mean a radio operator license on the one hand, and even if you have such a license, e.g. as tow driver, Ops or ATC, legally you can only listen to those frequencies on duty.
Swiss maintaining tempo like a watch
HOw do you listen to the pilots?
could an aviator explain how a 777 is still overweight for landing and needs to dump fuel after flying round about 6 to 7 hrs from Miami, i.e. fuel for approx. 7 hrs left in the tanks
Full pax + cargo + trip fuel to destination + extra alternate fuel made this thing quite heavy apaprently.
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what does mayday mean? how is it different from emergency declaration? I watched your other videos, ATC usually asks for souls on board and fuel remaining for emergency, but not in this case. So I guess the two situations are somewhat different.
681726 mayday means that theres a direct threat to the safety of the aircraft. A Pan Call means that theres a importent situation, but no direct threat. A Pilot feeling sick is a Pan emergency, a engine fire or a fire onboard is a mayday emergency. If you just say declearing an emergency it doesn't get clear weather or not there's a direct threat to the aircraft
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayday
You can declare an emergency both ways, if you do not state the nature of the emergency immediately, they will ask for sure.
Just declaring an emergency can most often be found while kind of checked in and in some sort of established communication. The MAYDAY or PAN PAN code words repeated three times are intended in radio communication ( not only aircraft but also ships for example ) to be easily recognized and catching attention from any stations listening. Especially on ships for example while listening to the radio in the background you start to kind of filter and only get more alert and actively listen if you recognize your callsigns Bering addressed or something like suche Code words.
Furthermore in Radio communications such code words usually call for a certain radio discipline and not possibly interrupting or blocking frequency.
@@alexku8452 in many applications a MAYDAY call also allows you to interrupt other radio communication.
So what happened with the smoke in the cabin? Disappeared mysteriously, and the flight continued?
Yeah, couldn't help thinking it was a queue jumping tactic..but I'm sure inspection will pinpoint any issues, smoke residue doesn't dissappear.
@@juzzlookin That's moronic... Calling an emergency won't save you any fucking time since you'll get stuck with the paperwork in the time it would have taken you to land, and no sane pilot would do that... Also they weren't even fucking close to where they wanted to go idiot...
Could be any number of things, it's happened countless of times. You don't need flames to have smoke, can be a cable burning or whatever.
@@nihlify especially in this case as this wasn't even their destination airport...
whats CAT I II and III??
What happens to all the dumped fuel? Do people underneath just think it's raining? is that what scattered showers are?
Fuel just evaporates as it gets in contact with the air.
VASAviation - Thanks for answering my questions! I've learnt a lot.
If this was in the US , ATC will assign a visual approach and will ask to maintain visual separation from other traffic to the Qatari. lol
Why do they keep asking for more track miles? What does that mean?
They're are requesting to delay their landing to prepare the cabin and be setup to land.
They need a longer approach time, in this case to prepare the cabin for an emergency landing. Earlier in the clip it was because they were too high,. An aircraft can be still to high or fast for the approach, especially if checklist still need to be completed. ATC will throw in a few extra turns into final flight path to give more 'track miles'
Do you have coms of the plane who had to abort their takeoff because of this incident?
Unfortunately, I don't! :(
04:13 ATC says Left turn and flightradar shows the plane turning right D:
Is there really a large demand for a Miami to Doha route? Who flys, except exchange students and the occasional business traveler? It doesn't seem profitable.
Kelton H Qatar Airways is the largest connector in the world between east and west
South Beach??
When did this happen? Today?
SimonThaKillah Read the introduction slide in the beginning of the video.
Why are they dumping fuel?
Aircraft dump fuel in order to reduce weight for landing. An overweight landing is more dangerous and expensive for later maintenance.
It was B77W, not B773 to be precise. These are different
Kuba Balcerski 77W is a 777-300ER
B773 usually refers to a 777-300 (non-ER), although at least two carriers will use the code B773 for them (Air China for 3-class 77Ws and China Eastern).
Max W and the 773 is 777-300 without ER, which is a different type of the 777
A 777-300ER can also be abbreviated as 773ER
I thought the Qatari crew were very professional.
what is CAT I & CAT II reffer?
In basic terms, it is about different accuracies for the ILS.
thanks.
They offered Cat III in case the smoke was so bad they couldn't see the instruments and had to do an autoland. Like the B747 in Dubai that crashed because they couldn't see anything in the cockpit.
Another good video. The smoke must have dissipated after the initial Mayday, otherwise I would not have expected them to do that 360 on final waiting for the cabin. If you're on fire get on the ground. Swiss 111?
DesertR Atleast they didn't turn off the AC fan ! ;)
What does QNH1011 mean?
Athmospheric Pressure at the Field, to set their altimeters
Eric Guggi Measured in milli bars
alan jackson naa, i think in hectopascal in europe, and in the usa some crazy thing with hundredths of inches of mercury or so
Eric Guggi aims l was being pedantic... In England it is measured in millibars, also in some other parts of Europe. Only Eastern bloc areas measure in hectopascals in mainland Europe
you realize millibar and hectopascal and millibar gives the same measure?
I feel bad for liking... the video is good but it's scarey!
Everything turned out OK! :)
Why requested CATI ?!
If you have a plane with too much weight, you have to flare really gently as not to overstress the airframe on touchdown. The crew of the 777 couldn't dump fuel until this point because of system problems, so they expected to land too heavy. The CAT3 with autoland lands the plane by autopilot with a preset flare maneuver made for normal weights, the pilots wouldn't be able to control the softness of the touchdown, so I assume, thats why they requested the CAT1 approach.
@@DCSMustang I think your explanation nails it, as the pilot after being offered Cat 3 asks for Cat 1 due to overweight landing
Go ahead and dump your fuel wherever-you're over Germany.
dumped fuel never touch the ground. It evaporate before.
The pilot needs to think every time about his callsign..
From Miami to Doha, and they still need to dump fuel over Germany because of an overweight landing. Strange. I'm also surprised ATC never asked for remaining fuel and souls on board.
Zürich isn´t located in Germany. ;)
@@salzstreuerdeluxe Please reread my comment carefully. Also see 2:58 and position of the aircraft.
@@guyseeten2755 Ok, you were right. I apologize for my mistake.
@@salzstreuerdeluxe No problem! 👍
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Will there be a probe ordered for Quater as all the time till landing they gone through MAYDAY and suddenly at last canceled and parked at the gate.
Monish Johnson In the event of a possible fire a Mayday is the best option incase the fire quickly escalates and they need to land faster with the emergency services.
Or dump fuel.
A bit chaotic in the Qatar cockpit and I wonder why dump fuel if you have smoke or fire? Hmm
fuel dump is because the aircraft was overweight for landing at zurich (it was supposed to continue to doha)
That's the first time I've heard the Tower controller ask the pilots to confirm gear down and locked. Odd request, since they never mentioned having any issue with their landing gear.
maybe they extended the gears a little late? this would be german for "why didn't you extend them earlier?!" so it made me wonder...
@@andij605 hearing the pilots reaction I wondered if somehow in the cockpit workload they did not yet get to that checklist item and have been quite happy about the friendly reminder.
Can they poop their fuel into lake constance? Isnt this like a nature reserve? He could have just vectored them to Davos for the fuel dump, thats where it belongs.
Have they learned nothing from Swiss air 111...if there is any smoke conduct an emergency descent, fly direct to the airport and disregard fuel dumping.
They didn't delay their descent not their approach for fuel dumping
Spanish pilot
The Swiss must hate fuel dumps. It’s against the law there to even wash your own car due to chance of polluting the water system with chemicals.
I'm sure that's why they had the plane dump fuel over Germany!
LeTang Well in this case political stuff is not important, if there's a runway and it would be good for emergency landing they are going to use it - and for sure this is right^^
Dumped fuel usualy never reach the ground, it evaporate before.
@@AML2000 It may be due to the lake underneath.
No wonder I adore German women
Lol
*Swiss
@@adrianbuergler8620
Zurich is in the German part of Switzerland
@@maanmohammad8459 yeah no shit, i live there. Still doesn't make the people who live here German.
@@adrianbuergler8620
Ok wasn't meant as an offense
@@maanmohammad8459 So are Canadians US Americans because they speak English?
I believe that i could hear a little annoyance from the crew member on the plane because he had to follow instructions from women.
I believe you are sick in your brain. The pilot was super-polite and thanked the ATC's multiple times... "But, but, but he's an arab, he has to be misogynic, otherwise my conception of the world is endangered... " haahahaaha you are super-pathetic
Don't sit here on youtube. You miss the beheading show.
No I won't...I've set a timer and will be notified when the life-stream of the beheading starts... Next off is a blonde, blue-eyed, danish mother of three! So excited !!
not for " prestigious" jobs
spot it’s not Quataris I’m very offended and there are many Qatari pilots! (COMING FROM A QATARI)
Good job by everyone but really baffled how a most basic (and potentially critical) RTF phraseology rule is not respected by Swiss ATC in this instance. E.g. it must never be "descend TO 5000ft", but "descend 5000ft". The "TO" uttered before the altitude clearance can easily be misunderstood for a "TWO", creating a totally unnecessary risk of misunderstanding with regard to the actually cleared altitude. In this particular case this risk of misunderstanding was admittedly neglibible, but considering how consistently the "TO" was used before the altitude value, I suspect it's a systematic issue. Really really odd, and not very professional, to be honest. Serious incidents and near misses have been the result of this...