Oh this game was truly something special. There's never been anything like it since. EA and C&C 4 ensured this genre would die. I'll never forgive them for that. Also Timecodes. Timecodes on this video please.
I couldn't agree more. Command & Conquer was a pioneering force with each game introducing something bold and exciting, others aspired to emulate and surpass it and Supreme Commander really was one of the best games to be created with CNCs Legacy. Then 4 happened. And destroyed the RTS genre. Hopefully the CNC Remasters wont be abominations and restore the genre.
Yeah, just listen to Col Arnold and Gen Clarke. It's as though the devs loved the actors so much in SAC that they hired them to play characters in their game.
Actually its possible to use the forged alliance hud (more or less) in vanilla. Research it. Brnkoinsanity did a playthrough on vanilla and at some point figured out how to get the good hud.
Just download the Forged Alliance Forever client, install it, connect the client to the game and you're able to play vanilla campaign with FA HUD and possibly with other people as coop campaign ; )
Seeing as commanders are the only humans usually on a battlefield aside from civilians, and each colony probably only has a small population (a few million per world), it's a very reasonable number. I believe that the core worlds of the three factions have never been breached, so any civilian casualties were limited. As for billions of deaths, it could still be hundreds of billions. According to the semi official canon series of novels, the Aeon only recently started killing everyone under Marxon's orders (in order to destroy the UEF's population base so that they can no longer replace their losses), and previously they would try to convert as many people as possible.
@@ethanworner864 Not really true according to the semi official canon (there's a series of novels out there). The UEF's core words were never attacked, same for the Aeon. The Cybrans never had core worlds with tons of people; their entire civilization was based on the idea that everyone could evacuate the entire planet in five minutes (with some hyper advanced tech, rapid transits to preplanned emergency gates etc). For the average UEF citizen, the war was very far away, and billions lived on Earth and other core worlds while the outer colonies burned repeatedly (You can actually see from the initial game's mission briefings, that worlds like Matar only had a population of a few million). This also makes a ton of sense from a logical perspective. You aren't going to overly develop a world which could potentially be turned into a nuclear wasteland in the next six months.
@@alexioskomnenos5290 Based on in-game models and quotes by the commanders and leaders, idk if I'd say Commanders are the only humans fighting. The UEF flag shows soldiers in combat gear, ships and planes have an assortment of windows (because what robotic combatant needs them?), some ground units, mostly UEF, have headlights, and the characters often refer to "soldiers" and "forces" implying that they're not mere robotic units that could otherwise simply be remade after losing a battle. Plus the game makes a distinction with naming of units in calling them a bot or otherwise, such as the Light Assault Bot every faction gets. I would say most of the Cybran units are bots, though. But I've never found or read the novels mentioned nor do I know how to get them so perhaps it's answered in there? If so and Commanders are generally the only ones then it seems a bit confusing overall haha
@@Th3M4k40n Yeah there are novels written in conjunction with the developers, and you can probably still find them if you ask on the FAF discord! Basically all the units are robotic drones aside from SCUs and ACUs (all units are fabricated using solid light and nanotechnology in lore, which is why we can have tanks built in seconds in gameplay). As for the picture of soldiers, that's kinda like how modern military units will still sometimes have chevrons with swords and arrows; we don't use them anymore, but it's a way to acknowledge the past, plus it's just tradition at this point to associate military force with swords and arrows.
It mirrors his appearance in the prequal cinematic where Burke narrates the point that the Symbionts were created. Brackman likely saw that as his greatest achievement so chose to live on by appearing as he did at that time.
With all due respect, as I recall princess just 'disappeared' after X-Day(Seraphim invasion D-Day) as it stated at FA Timeline video. And there's no saying she can come back to normal human form after that... Ascension?(Most likely becoming SPACE GHOST) So I doubt Aeon ending's canon.(except death of Evaluator Toth. You may say this is proof of Aeon ending canon, but canon matter of Toth's death and Aeon ending cannot be directly connected matter.) Cybran? Bit confused since there's nothing saying about Liberation Matrix or Royalty Program, but comparing time required for reconstruction of Quantum Gate Network(5 Years after the end of war) and FA's time(2 Years later), THEY SURELY DIDN'T FIRED BLACKSUN(Hex 5? Same matter as Toth.) UEF is my bet. Fletcher's quote at final mission could be a proof. No Cybran•Aeon personals directly speaks as Black Sun was fired by themselves but him.
@@mkvector9539 That isn't a point against the likely canonicity of the UEF ending. In the after credit scene of SC1, it shows the holoscreen of one of Clarke's Symbiont assistants activating to show an alert notifying the position of the opening of the Seraphim Arch. You notice anything off about that scene? The command center was EMPTY, nobody was there, like it was abandoned or temporarily decommissioned following the official end to the war after the firing of Black Sun. It makes sense that, considering the location of the Arch and the massive fleet of Seraphim EX bombers coming out of it nuking everything in sight, Black Sun would've been destroyed by them shortly after the invasion begun.
I love the game, but it would make more sense to me if the commanders were send with more then a single, relatively weak unit, or that they bombarded the LZ first. The manual claims they can only send small forces because of energy demands of gate technology, so they build up on the spot. Fine, but with that kind of production technology, could you not fortify the planets or at least the cities/bases on them? They can create armies in hours, even if we assume the time in the game is faster than real time. With that kind of technology, it would be easy to defend every major city, as long as you spot the attacking commander on time. Even if you do not, you could fortify enough to hold them off for days, in which you can get reinforcements. Yes, the highly advanced ACU might be faster in building than the factories in a city, but unless the city is only weeks old or something, or the commander stayed hidden for days, they could start every battle with far superior forces. Add some long range artillery or nuclear missiles for if things do get out of hand, and suddenly the defenders advantage is enormous. The only ways to fix this for the attacker would be a stonger ACU that can clear out an LZ, hold it against the counter attack, all while building up their base and create an army fast enough to avoid counterattack. So that means more initial resources or better build in collection, a stronger hull and/or shield and more fire power, like tactical missiles, artillery and anti air. They could equip the commander with a limited number of tactical missiles, as you only need to clear the initial zone long enough to build a base. Alternatively, they could bombard the area around the LZ in some way, disrupt enemy detection with radar jamming to stop the enemy from locating the commander, send an initial elite force along with the commander, or project a limited shield around the LZ. Saying you have the capability to construct a single robot that can be send to create an army is fine, but why does the defender not use this technology to create an army ahead of time, to prepare for this? They would, so incorperate that in the campaign.
It is stated in the lore that ACU can easily survive 100 megaton pinpoint blast. Plus I think build time frames might be cannon but not sustainable (like wear and tear in the matter of hours or days since commanders are rotated back to bigger bases on fair basis). Rim worlds usually wont have this type of tech both because of resource allocation(as seen in UEF cutscenes) and with the risk of rebellion since with ACU 1 madman can glass the planet in the matter of hours. To hammer point even more look at ACU scale in Cybran intro (ACU head is easily 3-4m high and body is like 6-8 times that, so for ease of scale ACU can measure 30m easily and its close to 10 story building!).
buy it, ....or pirate it, i dont really care which you do, that being said, if you do pirate it, consider buying it later if it doesnt inconvenience you, it helps fund the games if some people who pirate games do buy them later, this way the games makers will be able to continue to make games.
@@TS-jm7jm Gas powered games, the developer of the supreme commander series took a nose dive, after the waste of resources thrown into supreme commander 2 failed to garner profits. The total value of GPG was cheap enough for wargaming to buy for cheap. It's easy to look up. (:
+Leonidas Carl Technically, they're all humans. As for the campaign, all three nations have their own ending and each one contradicts the others. As of SupCom 2 the Aeon ending is the most likely since it leaves both the gate network and the Aeon capital world intact.
all endings are cannon, the UEF become (Sort of) the top faction (they are a little better off than others) The Cybran release all the symbiotics and get their big break, and the aeon end the infinite war
Socialitik FromUSSR The Aeon ending is canon as the UEF destroys the home world's of the other 2. The Cybran ending simply releases their enslaved brethren & disables all quantum gate's for 5 years. The Aeon ending sees the princess use the black Sun weapon to send a message of peace to all world's & free all Cybran. Thus keeping the quantum gate's intact for the 2nd SC forge alliance in which all 3 team up against the not so extinct Seraphim come back with a vengeance.
all endings are cannon, the UEF become (Sort of) the top faction (they are a little better off than others) The Cybran release all the symbiotics and get their big break, and the aeon end the infinite war
Ты путаешь концовки. Aeon распространяют путь, да, но принцесса погибает!!! Таким образом она никак не может закрыть переход серафимов в SC FA. Cybran взорвали все ворота в галактике, а не UEF. UEF использовали врата чтобы отправлять поток энергии Black Sun на другие планеты и уничтожать их. Концовка UEF канонична по причине того что выживает принцесса Берк, Cybran получают свободу только в конце SC FA, когда Холл(глава UEF после смерти Кларк) заявляет о полной свободе Cybran.
No No, sorry I was unclear. PARTS, and only PARTS of each ending were used. basically, a little bit of all the endings were used as the canon ending. First of all in FA the princess is alive but everyone is surprised because everyone thought she died in the firing of black sun when she united everyone in the final cut scene of the aeon ending. Secondly, cybran did not want full freedom, they simply wanted a break so they could rebuild their army, that is why they destroyed the gates. Thirdly and most important: in FA the aeon and cybran home worlds are not destroyed, meaning the UEF could Not have won. because their ending shows the distruction of those worlds. The following story parts are canon for FA. these are small parts from each faction ending on SupCom 1 that are put together to form the True Ending: 1. Aeon: princess burke uses the firing of black sun to communicate a message to every human saying they should stop fighting and get along, this ends the infinite war. BUT it is reviled in FA that the princess somehow survived. 2. Cybran: two things happen. One the cybran use the firing of black sun to send a virus that frees all of the symbiotic humans. Two cybran somehow destroys all quantum gates in the galaxy. 3. UEF: UEF doesn't get their goal of destroying all other factions with Black Sun, but because aeon lost (not really) princess burke, and cybran cut themselves off from everyone by destroying gates. UEF is left as the most powerful faction in the end, they don't destoy all the other factions, but in the end they are the most powerful when you put all of this together it makes the "canon" ending that continues into FA.
The O.k its look like C&C Generals , but after 1000 years UFE look like USA , The Cybrans look like Russians and China , but don't tell me that The Aions are the green GLA 😂😂😂😂😂
He's obviously dominant on Cybran I noticed how good he is with them
I think I know what “The Way” is. The Aeon illumanate follows the ways of the Ugandan knuckles
oof.. good thing that the UEF did some purging.
Dey follow de wey for de princess
its the way Mandalorians work.
Woah 3 universes all influenced by “the way” I think we maybe dealing with something bigger than god himself
Stock Brazen were dealing with Ugandan Knuckles
recall dammit! recall! reeeee
Oh this game was truly something special. There's never been anything like it since. EA and C&C 4 ensured this genre would die. I'll never forgive them for that.
Also Timecodes. Timecodes on this video please.
I couldn't agree more. Command & Conquer was a pioneering force with each game introducing something bold and exciting, others aspired to emulate and surpass it and Supreme Commander really was one of the best games to be created with CNCs Legacy. Then 4 happened. And destroyed the RTS genre. Hopefully the CNC Remasters wont be abominations and restore the genre.
@@KeybladeWielderXV its slowly starting to bounce back rts fans are resilaint.
This game never died. Download FAF (Forged Alliance Forever)
Heh, I never knew that SupCom has the voice actors playing Major and Batou in it
Miseric0rde they do?
Yeah, just listen to Col Arnold and Gen Clarke. It's as though the devs loved the actors so much in SAC that they hired them to play characters in their game.
Yep Richard Epcar and Mary McGlynn
@@Batou3 Mary elizabeth McGlynn? As in from Silent Hill?
@@sernoddicusthegallant6986 yeah
I was rooting for the Cybrans.
Same
They have the best cause.
@@torinlupo807 The Aeons and Cybrans have the best cause in my opinion
This was very well done. Thanks
Thank you for that. My audio is glitched and I've done all the attempts to fix it, to no avail.
2:45 This really reminds me of the original game that SupCom is based on. Although that was more based on Humans vs Cybrans :)
Total annihilation.
UEF-The Bad ending.
Cybran-The Good ending
Aeon-Wtf ending.
tho i highly preferre forged alliance over this its still a great game wish i could use the forged alliance hud tho
Actually its possible to use the forged alliance hud (more or less) in vanilla. Research it. Brnkoinsanity did a playthrough on vanilla and at some point figured out how to get the good hud.
@@Golem-mo5wc wait so it is possible guess i have to find a way tried seaching it up but didnæt find anything
@@nagashtheundyingking4404 I thinkI found it, if you press ALT+up arrow then it will change the hud, press it a few times and it will become smol
Forged alliance forever bro
Just download the Forged Alliance Forever client, install it, connect the client to the game and you're able to play vanilla campaign with FA HUD and possibly with other people as coop campaign ; )
I didn't even know there were cinematics. Guess I never finished any campaign mission.
It be epic if supreme commander movie
Considering the scale, tech level, and time frame, billions of deaths indicates a fairly low level conflict.
Seeing as commanders are the only humans usually on a battlefield aside from civilians, and each colony probably only has a small population (a few million per world), it's a very reasonable number. I believe that the core worlds of the three factions have never been breached, so any civilian casualties were limited. As for billions of deaths, it could still be hundreds of billions. According to the semi official canon series of novels, the Aeon only recently started killing everyone under Marxon's orders (in order to destroy the UEF's population base so that they can no longer replace their losses), and previously they would try to convert as many people as possible.
Alexios Komnenos still, they probably have single planets with orders of magnitude more people than the stated casualties.
@@ethanworner864 Not really true according to the semi official canon (there's a series of novels out there). The UEF's core words were never attacked, same for the Aeon. The Cybrans never had core worlds with tons of people; their entire civilization was based on the idea that everyone could evacuate the entire planet in five minutes (with some hyper advanced tech, rapid transits to preplanned emergency gates etc). For the average UEF citizen, the war was very far away, and billions lived on Earth and other core worlds while the outer colonies burned repeatedly (You can actually see from the initial game's mission briefings, that worlds like Matar only had a population of a few million). This also makes a ton of sense from a logical perspective. You aren't going to overly develop a world which could potentially be turned into a nuclear wasteland in the next six months.
@@alexioskomnenos5290 Based on in-game models and quotes by the commanders and leaders, idk if I'd say Commanders are the only humans fighting. The UEF flag shows soldiers in combat gear, ships and planes have an assortment of windows (because what robotic combatant needs them?), some ground units, mostly UEF, have headlights, and the characters often refer to "soldiers" and "forces" implying that they're not mere robotic units that could otherwise simply be remade after losing a battle. Plus the game makes a distinction with naming of units in calling them a bot or otherwise, such as the Light Assault Bot every faction gets. I would say most of the Cybran units are bots, though.
But I've never found or read the novels mentioned nor do I know how to get them so perhaps it's answered in there? If so and Commanders are generally the only ones then it seems a bit confusing overall haha
@@Th3M4k40n Yeah there are novels written in conjunction with the developers, and you can probably still find them if you ask on the FAF discord! Basically all the units are robotic drones aside from SCUs and ACUs (all units are fabricated using solid light and nanotechnology in lore, which is why we can have tanks built in seconds in gameplay). As for the picture of soldiers, that's kinda like how modern military units will still sometimes have chevrons with swords and arrows; we don't use them anymore, but it's a way to acknowledge the past, plus it's just tradition at this point to associate military force with swords and arrows.
Thank you for this movie ^^
Very raw story. It improves in Forged Alliance though
Wake me up when September ends.
So the true ending is the UEF one, well, there are still some inconsitencies... My favorite one is AEON, for sure
uef ending is canon, expansion starts with the consequences of the uef firing the black sun.
Sabahns are setting their eyes on the Visayans
Does anyone find a bit odd that brackman chooses to represent himself as he was as an old man? He could have chose anything for his hologram..
Hes kinda a father figure for the Symbionts so it fits his image of kind but excentric old man.
It mirrors his appearance in the prequal cinematic where Burke narrates the point that the Symbionts were created. Brackman likely saw that as his greatest achievement so chose to live on by appearing as he did at that time.
With all due respect, as I recall princess just 'disappeared' after X-Day(Seraphim invasion D-Day) as it stated at FA Timeline video. And there's no saying she can come back to normal human form after that... Ascension?(Most likely becoming SPACE GHOST) So I doubt Aeon ending's canon.(except death of Evaluator Toth. You may say this is proof of Aeon ending canon, but canon matter of Toth's death and Aeon ending cannot be directly connected matter.)
Cybran? Bit confused since there's nothing saying about Liberation Matrix or Royalty Program, but comparing time required for reconstruction of Quantum Gate Network(5 Years after the end of war) and FA's time(2 Years later), THEY SURELY DIDN'T FIRED BLACKSUN(Hex 5? Same matter as Toth.)
UEF is my bet. Fletcher's quote at final mission could be a proof. No Cybran•Aeon personals directly speaks as Black Sun was fired by themselves but him.
Loyalty Program
Hall: What on Earth are you talking about, Black Sun is destroyed the Aeon and Cybran are our allies.
@@mkvector9539 I don't understand what do you want to say
@@mkvector9539 That isn't a point against the likely canonicity of the UEF ending. In the after credit scene of SC1, it shows the holoscreen of one of Clarke's Symbiont assistants activating to show an alert notifying the position of the opening of the Seraphim Arch.
You notice anything off about that scene? The command center was EMPTY, nobody was there, like it was abandoned or temporarily decommissioned following the official end to the war after the firing of Black Sun. It makes sense that, considering the location of the Arch and the massive fleet of Seraphim EX bombers coming out of it nuking everything in sight, Black Sun would've been destroyed by them shortly after the invasion begun.
I love the game, but it would make more sense to me if the commanders were send with more then a single, relatively weak unit, or that they bombarded the LZ first.
The manual claims they can only send small forces because of energy demands of gate technology, so they build up on the spot. Fine, but with that kind of production technology, could you not fortify the planets or at least the cities/bases on them?
They can create armies in hours, even if we assume the time in the game is faster than real time. With that kind of technology, it would be easy to defend every major city, as long as you spot the attacking commander on time. Even if you do not, you could fortify enough to hold them off for days, in which you can get reinforcements.
Yes, the highly advanced ACU might be faster in building than the factories in a city, but unless the city is only weeks old or something, or the commander stayed hidden for days, they could start every battle with far superior forces. Add some long range artillery or nuclear missiles for if things do get out of hand, and suddenly the defenders advantage is enormous.
The only ways to fix this for the attacker would be a stonger ACU that can clear out an LZ, hold it against the counter attack, all while building up their base and create an army fast enough to avoid counterattack. So that means more initial resources or better build in collection, a stronger hull and/or shield and more fire power, like tactical missiles, artillery and anti air. They could equip the commander with a limited number of tactical missiles, as you only need to clear the initial zone long enough to build a base.
Alternatively, they could bombard the area around the LZ in some way, disrupt enemy detection with radar jamming to stop the enemy from locating the commander, send an initial elite force along with the commander, or project a limited shield around the LZ. Saying you have the capability to construct a single robot that can be send to create an army is fine, but why does the defender not use this technology to create an army ahead of time, to prepare for this? They would, so incorperate that in the campaign.
It is stated in the lore that ACU can easily survive 100 megaton pinpoint blast. Plus I think build time frames might be cannon but not sustainable (like wear and tear in the matter of hours or days since commanders are rotated back to bigger bases on fair basis). Rim worlds usually wont have this type of tech both because of resource allocation(as seen in UEF cutscenes) and with the risk of rebellion since with ACU 1 madman can glass the planet in the matter of hours. To hammer point even more look at ACU scale in Cybran intro (ACU head is easily 3-4m high and body is like 6-8 times that, so for ease of scale ACU can measure 30m easily and its close to 10 story building!).
ah i remember getting this game on the xbox360 when i was 9 years old. yes xbox360 it was a bitch to run.
same, a "bitch to run" is the most accurate way to explain it
I played loads of RTS on thr console
I know your pain
Just played the campaign again and forgot how much i love the game
do you know the way?
Mazinger
How can i get this game
buy it, ....or pirate it, i dont really care which you do, that being said, if you do pirate it, consider buying it later if it doesnt inconvenience you, it helps fund the games if some people who pirate games do buy them later, this way the games makers will be able to continue to make games.
He can buy it on steam... He doesn't need to pirate it
@@TS-jm7jm Funnily enough >>wargaming
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp elaborate a bit
@@TS-jm7jm Gas powered games, the developer of the supreme commander series took a nose dive, after the waste of resources thrown into supreme commander 2 failed to garner profits. The total value of GPG was cheap enough for wargaming to buy for cheap. It's easy to look up. (:
soo the humans on earth winning is the canon storyline? pleaese make these for the rest
+Leonidas Carl Technically, they're all humans. As for the campaign, all three nations have their own ending and each one contradicts the others. As of SupCom 2 the Aeon ending is the most likely since it leaves both the gate network and the Aeon capital world intact.
all endings are cannon, the UEF become (Sort of) the top faction (they are a little better off than others) The Cybran release all the symbiotics and get their big break, and the aeon end the infinite war
14:00 DOOM SLAYER?!
The music is very... Star Wars inspired!
Intel
Where's supreme commander 2
THAT WAS VERY FUN LOVED IT SO MUCH
Exodus gate
The Aeon ending is canon. Read up on it.
Canon it is UEF. If Aeon end canon, then in SC FA fight onli Aeon and serapfim.
Socialitik FromUSSR The Aeon ending is canon as the UEF destroys the home world's of the other 2. The Cybran ending simply releases their enslaved brethren & disables all quantum gate's for 5 years. The Aeon ending sees the princess use the black Sun weapon to send a message of peace to all world's & free all Cybran. Thus keeping the quantum gate's intact for the 2nd SC forge alliance in which all 3 team up against the not so extinct Seraphim come back with a vengeance.
all endings are cannon, the UEF become (Sort of) the top faction (they are a little better off than others) The Cybran release all the symbiotics and get their big break, and the aeon end the infinite war
Ты путаешь концовки. Aeon распространяют путь, да, но принцесса погибает!!! Таким образом она никак не может закрыть переход серафимов в SC FA. Cybran взорвали все ворота в галактике, а не UEF. UEF использовали врата чтобы отправлять поток энергии Black Sun на другие планеты и уничтожать их.
Концовка UEF канонична по причине того что выживает принцесса Берк, Cybran получают свободу только в конце SC FA, когда Холл(глава UEF после смерти Кларк) заявляет о полной свободе Cybran.
No No, sorry I was unclear. PARTS, and only PARTS of each ending were used. basically, a little bit of all the endings were used as the canon ending. First of all in FA the princess is alive but everyone is surprised because everyone thought she died in the firing of black sun when she united everyone in the final cut scene of the aeon ending. Secondly, cybran did not want full freedom, they simply wanted a break so they could rebuild their army, that is why they destroyed the gates. Thirdly and most important: in FA the aeon and cybran home worlds are not destroyed, meaning the UEF could Not have won. because their ending shows the distruction of those worlds.
The following story parts are canon for FA. these are small parts from each faction ending on SupCom 1 that are put together to form the True Ending:
1. Aeon: princess burke uses the firing of black sun to communicate a message to every human saying they should stop fighting and get along, this ends the infinite war. BUT it is reviled in FA that the princess somehow survived.
2. Cybran: two things happen. One the cybran use the firing of black sun to send a virus that frees all of the symbiotic humans. Two cybran somehow destroys all quantum gates in the galaxy.
3. UEF: UEF doesn't get their goal of destroying all other factions with Black Sun, but because aeon lost (not really) princess burke, and cybran cut themselves off from everyone by destroying gates. UEF is left as the most powerful faction in the end, they don't destoy all the other factions, but in the end they are the most powerful
when you put all of this together it makes the "canon" ending that continues into FA.
The
O.k its look like C&C Generals , but after 1000 years
UFE look like USA , The Cybrans look like Russians and China , but don't tell me that The Aions are the green GLA 😂😂😂😂😂
Well the combat and such is weaker than the second game I like the story and cinematics better
supcom 2 or FA
"For the Way" bunch of loons.
Jesus the units in this game were ugly.
GLORY TO THE CYBRAN NATION!