I really like this thing! The pricing is reasonable for what you get, but the final verdict will have to wait until we finish some of our testing. To me, the range and charging curve are two things we have to figure out ASAP! Thanks for watching and more to come…
Ya MSRP doesn’t mean anything when they can’t control the dealerships marking these things up 10+ thousand dollars and that is why Tesla will always dominate. They control all the dealerships.
@@Bman893 I like what Tesla is doing with buying their cars online, I just don't like being locked down to one brand of EVs. Dealerships aren't going anywhere, anytime soon unfortunately.
Charging curve should be the same as all the other EGMP cars with this same drivetrain and battery right? Even though it’s not exactly the same platform
It is a self fulfilling prophecy. If you only build EVs for techies only techies will buy them. EV market share is ~6% in the USA? Build EVs with normal controls and more normal people will buy them.
Got my GV70 electrified mid March in UK. I love it and it fits into the buyer market just as you say. For most it is super nice - not quite as nice as a equivalent spec’d German rivals but you really have to look. The performance and tech (for me) make up for it. Also the fact that no one knows what it is and it looks like an ICE vehicle is great! I can tell you that driving it in comfort mode ‘sensibly’ I get an average of 3.1 to 3.2KW per mile which in reality equates to around 235miles. This is mixed roads and traffic. Take it on the highway for a full charge run then this drops to about 3.0 at 70mm (no ac or heating just fan - driver only). So not a range monster but good enough for me with fast charging and 98% charging at home. So glad you reviewed this - love the channel and have been waiting to see your view on this car for ages! 😂
Kyle: "this is just a quick, first impression, the weather is poor, our batteries are low, it's not going to be a long video" - proceeds to release a 46min+ video 😂😂 Thanks for the great camera skills! 😊
Yeahhh I feel like he's being a little unfair on this and the regular GV70. He's talking about the plastic around the shift knob/volume knob area. I'll take that all day long over the tried and true piano black a lot of companies are just now finally getting away from, and to be honest it doesn't feel cheap or look cheap. This has no more or less plastic than it's competitors, so i don't know why he constantly knocks the GV70. It's actually a beautiful interior, and this might be subjective but I actually like the feel of the leather more than other nappa leathers I've been in.
Perceived luxury? This is absolutely real luxury and is just as nice, if not nicer, than equivalent german and Japanese competition. Obviously its not as nice as an S-Class or something of that caliber but calling this not real luxury is kinda hilarious
In Australia, the electrified GV70 is nearly double the price of the ICE version. No wonder Tesla is dominating EV sales the world over, it seems most other manufacturers want a massive premium for their EV drivetrains.
The GV70 Electric is my favorite EV that I’ve driven from a value standpoint. You don’t miss out on much in the base $66k version. I did like the E-Tron I rented but as Kyle mentioned it’s $80-90k with options.
Not really for the electrified one. There's only 4 exterior color choices and each can only have white or black leather. Plus, the seats don't have the quilted stitching like the upper trim of the ice version. At least when you build one on their website, that's how it appears, but this one he has is quilted so not sure why the site doesn't show that.
65k version is well equipped subtract 3750 tax credit and 3 years free charging brings the GV70E down to mid 50's. Great SUV and so much better than Tesla Y other than the charging network. As an owner of an i4 m50 I am impressed.
Impossible to find without markup right now, and still no wireless CarPlay/Android Auto at this price is a deal breaker. By 2nd or 3rd model year when those 2 things get sorted, this will be a compelling option
Calling it garbage plastic is pretty extreme. It's nowhere near that. The quality, tolerances and fit & finish in the Genesis products are very good. Using your standards, that'd make the German VW ID.4 rotten spoiled rubbish. The Audi e-tron isn't that much better, especially for the money. Genesis actually does more things better than Audi with their e-tron.
Oily seats, plastic…, old man vibes. The styling of Genesis is no old man style . Seconds later the buttons and knobs are high quality. $125k Tesla model X doesn’t even come close to this cars fit and finish. The bias on this channel is off the charts. Your great about specs leave the design, styling and fit and finish to someone who dresses the part.
@@alisuleiman6622 I personally love the Old Man in Florida comment, are you f'ing kidding me? The GV70 (admittedly more so on the sport front end) has an aggressive look to it. I've never shown someone my GV70 and had them think it's an old mans car, especially when you add the black seats with suede inserts. Now yes, if you get the white interior it's more of a 'classy' interior, but if you get the black interior it's more of a sports car look. Same goes with their G70 sports sedan, the white interior has a more classy look to it. I really don't agree with their opinion on the interior at all. I'd love to see how an equivalent BMW or Audi is a luxury car on the inside vs this not being a luxury car. The only concession I can give is Mercedes, but they're literally known to be the most luxury car out of all of them. Lexus is out dated at this point and needs to get on their game.
I have a GV70 EV and a newer Audi Q7. As far as interior material quality is concerned I think it’s a tie. Kyle criticized the GV70 for the plastic surrounding the shifter and MMI knob, and guess what? It’s the same in the Q7. Also, my car has the black Nappa interior and I don’t find the seats to be greasy at all. I wonder if the white seats have a coating so that they don’t stain?
Kyle, when I looked at the GV60 and GV70, the buttons, toggles, and panels you say are plastic seemed to me to be made from an aluminum alloy. Why do you think they are plastic and not metal? Has Genesis confirmed your opinion about the "plastic" materials, or are they instead using a lightweight aluminum alloy?
Another great EV review! I recently installed a manual transfer switch to my house electrical panal. I use the V2L as a backup power source from ny GV60 for any residential power outages. 50,000 kWts usable!, take that Tesla power wall!
Home back up at 15 amps? Maybe you can power some lights and a microwave.. from my understand that’s all the eGMP V2L is capable of. It’s not like the Ford system which lets you use the CCS to push DC out to your home
10 circuit breakers during a power outage; refrigerator, LED lights in every room , ceiling fans in 2 rooms, 2 laptops, security system and cameras, 2 Garage door openers, electronic controls for a natural gas water heater, gas range, gas heater , wifi and modem, 2 LED TVs, bathroom vent fans. If these all ran at once , one fan will take me over the 15 amp level. We won't run all these items together during a power outage. In SoCal, we only barely need to run the AC, so that is a non issue for us.
I like the body design of this MUCH more than the GV60. (GV70 seems like it was designed to compete directly against Porsche Macan, which is a good target to aim for imo). Glad to see Hyundai/Genesis bring their A-Game; competition is a good thing for consumers :)
Have to wonder about that charge port on the front grill. Lots of fun accessing that in the middle of winter when the front end is plastered with slush. Designed by people living in a warm climate.
Every-time I see this GV70e, it keep reminding me the Audi e-tron, it is just a bit smaller (Q5 size?) and charge a bit faster. It will be a car to get if I need to replace my e-tron.
I vastly prefer USB-A ports (24:20) to USB-C ports. We have 10-15 years worth of USB-A input cords, and everything needs an expensive cord adaptor to get to USB-C.
Dang, in Canada this thing is 85k, and only 58k for the gas version. After taxes that's a 30k difference. That buys a huge amount of gas and saves all the range headaches. It also won't qualify for any rebates here because it's well over the 70k price limit for rebates here. That's going to be a tough sell.
+1. At $85k CAD this is well within spitting distance of the BMW iX eDrive50 and Audi Q8 55 e-tron, and those cars are significantly bigger battery & range, not to mention far more prestigious brands.
@@Trades46 Not within spitting distance at all. I was shopping the Q8 to replace my wife’s SQ5 and optioned the same as the GV70 the Q8 is $110k + $2k lux tax + whatever bs dealer charges they throw on top. The GV70 was $84150 + GST which is $30k less than the Audi when all is said and done. I don’t care about prestige, I care about the drive. And I prefer driving the Genesis.
The waiting time to have GV70-EV is about 6 to 8 months or even longer. The sales manager told me many people moved on to other EVs. He said to me that GV70-EV only has shiny chrome side window trim. The gas engine gets dark gray chrome window trim. That's too bad because the shiny chrome side window trim makes GV70 look cheap on Makalu Gray Matte exterior color.
How about Tesla's over inflated range numbers? Blows all our minds. Also, the E-GMP 800v EVs charging curves slaps Teslas short curve where tesla can't even sustain a high charge rate. The GV70e, although not on the E-GMP, may still have a better charging curve than slow charging teslas.
I feel like I need a definition of what a luxury vehicle is from what he's talking about. Are we talking about S class luxury? Of course this won't be that nice. Are we talking about equivalent priced luxury cars? Because this definitely matches them or is nicer. Or maybe I'm just honestly not experiencing something that he is.
Hi.. I love watching your channel, but when did 70k become reasonable for a car? It would be nice to see you guys dedicate a channel to new cars under 40k for the average consumer. It’s great you guys can buy and drive 100k cars like it’s nothing but for a lot of us, that’s just not feasible.
Reason why they say it’s the electrified GV 70 is because the gas model came out first And it also uses recyclable materials and Mike the gas model It was out in China before it came here a year and a half ago I think it would be great to do a comparison between this, and the Ix3. I love my family Santa Fe plug-in hybrid
This is probably a half-truth. The trip-planner feature is not functional in the Hyundai Ioniq 5, it’s implemented poorly in the Ioniq 6, but they do let you select an EV charger POI
It doesn't qualify for the federal credit as of the end of March when purchasing because they changed the requirements to be tighter then. The battery materials are now also needed to be not from China so it fails on that. It had met the $7500 credit from Jan to end of March but very few were produced in that timeframe. I read that if you lease this car, you can get the full $7500 credit though as there is a loophole in the law when leasing instead of purchasing.
Me thinks Alyssa likes Airstreams! With Harmon International owning so many brands, the audio electronics tend to be very similar, just different tuning. Having had BMWs, I do prefer the iDrive style selector knob as opposed to the touch screen.
Unfortunately, I don't believe the GV70 Electrified Qualifies for the EV Tax Credit despite final assembly in the US. I am sure there is a lease program available to get around this.
Great video, thanks for sharing! I do think the better value somewhat luxury vehicle would be the Cadillac Lyriq. Longer range, larger interior, adequate charging speeds and SuperCruise. Also, it’s less expensive.
Ive got one and love it but will be moving out of it soon. I do charge level 2 at home but my daily commute including work, picking up wife and children is on average 160 miles per day and I'm really struggling with the poor range since those ultra fast chargers don't exist anywhere near my commute. I'll be looking at Tesla Model Y long range kind of sadly because of range and a huge supercharge station very close to my office if needed to top up.
I think I saw one on the freeway yesterday. It just looked weird, frumpy from the back. I was stumped for what it was and never got a look at the badge, convinced it was some one-off French deal or maybe a new Vinfast or Mullen or some BYD grey market car, but it had to be one of these. Those two rows of LEDs at the back are fugly, as is the arc of the hatch.
Does Kyle ever meet an EV he doesn't like, particularly if its very expensive? More coverage of EV's on the lower end of the price spectrum, please, including those outside the US. I think the high end of the automotive market is sold on EV's. It's at the mid-price point level where a lot of work needs to be done. I have a BMW i4 which I'm very happy with. Averaging 4.1 miles per KWH. But as I think about the future, I want something closer to a Chevy Bolt, with better charging and range capabilities.
Not a fan of Genesis styling, but it's nice to have a mid-range luxurious option to differentiate from the rest of the market. Let's see the charging curve and efficiency of this thing!
This and the Genesis G80-EV seem like seriously underappreciated EVs. They're gorgeous inside & out, extremely well-priced for what they are, have the 800V batteries of the E-GMP cars, perform well, are built nicely, get reasonably good range (particularly the G80-EV), and don't have a theta engine to blow up!
Yeah I’ve never pulled more than a 183KW on my G80 EV on a EA 350KW charger and 132KW on a EA 150KW charger. I called my G80 EV old man interior (brown) as well! I’m also from Florida! That’s 😅
I think I'd rather stick with a GV60. What I'm not keen on with Genesis is that, if you opt for a whitish interior, the steering wheel also has that color. Not a good idea.
Wow, another $70,000+ EV. It would be great to see more affordable options. Electric vehicles will not replace ICE vehicles until prices come way down.
Hey, somebody here gets it. I'm tired of seeing these super expensive EVs. Where's the $20k ICE equivalent of an EV? And don't say Bolt or Leaf, the Bolt is being discontinued.
This is a premium plus electric car, so of course the price is $70k plus.. There are plenty of cheaper electric cars available, many are manufactured in China and Europe. There aren't even any ICE SUVs under $25k that are huge sellers: The Chevy Trak/Ford Eco Sport? You get a cheap driving experience with those cars. If you want an inexpensive electric car, there is VW's iD.4, Chevy Bolt EUV, Mini e, pre owned BMW i3, Nissan Leaf.. These cars drive way better than a Trak or Eco Sport.
@@Superman-xr1oh But the Bolt is still a cheaper option regardless if its being discontinued. Chevy will replace it with another affordable electric car. The electric car market is growing every year.. If you can't afford one or refuse to buy one, just continue to buy an ICE car, you have options, no one is forcing you to buy anything you don't desire.
@@mamadouaziza2536 Bolt has slow charging that doesn't make it ideal for anything other than local driving. And still, that's not really a lot of options.
The ID4 already exists and the equinox EV is coming soon. There aren’t any SUVs at $20k that you actually want to buy, but the ID4 is nicer than almost any fossil powered SUV at that same $30k price point
I agree so much. The front bumper is the best location for it and in this car it's hidden perfectly. I bet some customers really struggle to find it the first time they charge.
Please don’t tell me that your Audi Q8 e-tron doesn’t have any hard plastic,and all the buttons are all not made of plastic, when I went to check the audi electric vehicle at auto show, I left their booth right away, their electric vehicle interior are so cheaply made,hard plastic everywhere, piano black surface, disgusting
Dude, just do a bad weather range test. Look, I know you want to know the range in optimal conditions, but naysayers always complain about bad conditions. So why not start doing bad condition tests in addition to standard ones?
Exterior dimensions are all the same. Are you speaking about the interior space and headroom? If so, it's the same as the Electrified G80 with the battery pack in the floor that raises the seats a bit. The G80 is a little worse since it's a sedan, but it's compromised in this some too.
The issue is the Electrified GV70 cost $84k CAD. Compare that to the $59k XC40 Recharge, $64k Q4 e-tron and even the already expensive $69k Model Y.... Yeah completely noncompetitive in Canada.
The stacked dual exhaust doesn’t look as good and the leveled exhaust but GV70é settles that debate. The light interior is the best of the two choices and the most popular. The $7,500 lease MSRP reduction solves the battery pack tax credit issue in 2023. The trunk button is on the wiper pivot point. I’d rather have my IONIQ 5 rear cabin space and save the money. Nice introduction video. 46:43
How in the world in this vehicle the designers managed to make leg room in the back vanish while the vehicle is almost midsized? Then by making it too swoop in the rear they compromised the luggage compartment as well! Then the price is too high!
Nice Hyundai Genesis. I still wonder if their quality has improved. I unfortunately purchased a Kia Sedona some years ago. Sold it quickly because many of the interior bits were failing and the paint was fading. My mom bought a Kia Sportage, which is still limping along, but already had multiple engine as well as paint issues after five years.
Ha - an ad for the ICE-powered GV80 came up in the middle of this vid. Clearly, they don't know their target audiience. Seriously though - they're *advertising* 236 miles of range? That is insulting for the price point of this vehicle. They must have taken that page from the Audi playbook. It's a shame that they have geared all of their marketing and materials towards senior citizens (with all that paper and traditional, useless accoutrements). The styling is so sharp, but it's a no from me, dawg, with that laughable range and tiny rear seat. If they can find a way to squeeze in a 90 or 100 kWh battery, I think it would really make this vehicle competitive.
I really like this thing! The pricing is reasonable for what you get, but the final verdict will have to wait until we finish some of our testing. To me, the range and charging curve are two things we have to figure out ASAP! Thanks for watching and more to come…
Ya MSRP doesn’t mean anything when they can’t control the dealerships marking these things up 10+ thousand dollars and that is why Tesla will always dominate. They control all the dealerships.
This $75k vs the q8 etron premium plus of $80k. Which would you choose?
@@Bman893 I like what Tesla is doing with buying their cars online, I just don't like being locked down to one brand of EVs.
Dealerships aren't going anywhere, anytime soon unfortunately.
Charging curve should be the same as all the other EGMP cars with this same drivetrain and battery right? Even though it’s not exactly the same platform
It is a self fulfilling prophecy. If you only build EVs for techies only techies will buy them. EV market share is ~6% in the USA? Build EVs with normal controls and more normal people will buy them.
Former e-tron owner here. I own an Electrified GV70 in germany. It's a really great und fantastic car.
Got my GV70 electrified mid March in UK. I love it and it fits into the buyer market just as you say. For most it is super nice - not quite as nice as a equivalent spec’d German rivals but you really have to look. The performance and tech (for me) make up for it. Also the fact that no one knows what it is and it looks like an ICE vehicle is great! I can tell you that driving it in comfort mode ‘sensibly’ I get an average of 3.1 to 3.2KW per mile which in reality equates to around 235miles. This is mixed roads and traffic. Take it on the highway for a full charge run then this drops to about 3.0 at 70mm (no ac or heating just fan - driver only). So not a range monster but good enough for me with fast charging and 98% charging at home.
So glad you reviewed this - love the channel and have been waiting to see your view on this car for ages! 😂
Kyle: "this is just a quick, first impression, the weather is poor, our batteries are low, it's not going to be a long video"
- proceeds to release a 46min+ video 😂😂
Thanks for the great camera skills! 😊
Kyle is totally incapable of producing a video very much shorter than this. Just be grateful it didn't extend to a couple of hours!
You compare it to a Q8 or iX, but it's more a Q4 or iX3 competitor. And compared to those, interior ans overall quality is outstanding
Yeahhh I feel like he's being a little unfair on this and the regular GV70. He's talking about the plastic around the shift knob/volume knob area. I'll take that all day long over the tried and true piano black a lot of companies are just now finally getting away from, and to be honest it doesn't feel cheap or look cheap. This has no more or less plastic than it's competitors, so i don't know why he constantly knocks the GV70. It's actually a beautiful interior, and this might be subjective but I actually like the feel of the leather more than other nappa leathers I've been in.
Perceived luxury? This is absolutely real luxury and is just as nice, if not nicer, than equivalent german and Japanese competition. Obviously its not as nice as an S-Class or something of that caliber but calling this not real luxury is kinda hilarious
In Australia, the electrified GV70 is nearly double the price of the ICE version. No wonder Tesla is dominating EV sales the world over, it seems most other manufacturers want a massive premium for their EV drivetrains.
Probably the true cost for the cars.
Much the same here in the UK.
Yup
Yeah, no way I'd even consider these vehicles in Australia. AU$77k for the ICE version and AU$141k for the electric! Crazy!
I am glad I am not the only Australian that watches Kyle lol...
The GV70 Electric is my favorite EV that I’ve driven from a value standpoint. You don’t miss out on much in the base $66k version. I did like the E-Tron I rented but as Kyle mentioned it’s $80-90k with options.
Good thing kyle doesn't design cars, everything would be at least 6 figures!! lol!!
I pick mine up Wednesday!
How do you llike it so far? I love love this car
@@colleensmith3374 it’s amazing! Range in good weather is better than advertised.
Genesis offers all kinds of interior colors and interesting color combos, this white interior is just one of the available options.
Not really for the electrified one. There's only 4 exterior color choices and each can only have white or black leather. Plus, the seats don't have the quilted stitching like the upper trim of the ice version. At least when you build one on their website, that's how it appears, but this one he has is quilted so not sure why the site doesn't show that.
65k version is well equipped subtract 3750 tax credit and 3 years free charging brings the GV70E down to mid 50's. Great SUV and so much better than Tesla Y other than the charging network. As an owner of an i4 m50 I am impressed.
Once again great job Kyle and the Kia Hyundai platform is as usual amazing.
Around my neck of the woods ALL Genesis have a 5k markup....
$78k is a very lofty price for this car...
Hyundai and Kia do this all over, it's the dealers, they will never learn,when they're out of business they will say what happen.
Impossible to find without markup right now, and still no wireless CarPlay/Android Auto at this price is a deal breaker. By 2nd or 3rd model year when those 2 things get sorted, this will be a compelling option
Calling it garbage plastic is pretty extreme. It's nowhere near that. The quality, tolerances and fit & finish in the Genesis products are very good. Using your standards, that'd make the German VW ID.4 rotten spoiled rubbish. The Audi e-tron isn't that much better, especially for the money. Genesis actually does more things better than Audi with their e-tron.
Oily seats, plastic…, old man vibes. The styling of Genesis is no old man style . Seconds later the buttons and knobs are high quality. $125k Tesla model X doesn’t even come close to this cars fit and finish. The bias on this channel is off the charts. Your great about specs leave the design, styling and fit and finish to someone who dresses the part.
@@alisuleiman6622 I personally love the Old Man in Florida comment, are you f'ing kidding me? The GV70 (admittedly more so on the sport front end) has an aggressive look to it. I've never shown someone my GV70 and had them think it's an old mans car, especially when you add the black seats with suede inserts. Now yes, if you get the white interior it's more of a 'classy' interior, but if you get the black interior it's more of a sports car look. Same goes with their G70 sports sedan, the white interior has a more classy look to it. I really don't agree with their opinion on the interior at all. I'd love to see how an equivalent BMW or Audi is a luxury car on the inside vs this not being a luxury car. The only concession I can give is Mercedes, but they're literally known to be the most luxury car out of all of them. Lexus is out dated at this point and needs to get on their game.
I have a GV70 EV and a newer Audi Q7. As far as interior material quality is concerned I think it’s a tie. Kyle criticized the GV70 for the plastic surrounding the shifter and MMI knob, and guess what? It’s the same in the Q7. Also, my car has the black Nappa interior and I don’t find the seats to be greasy at all. I wonder if the white seats have a coating so that they don’t stain?
Trunk release button is integrated in the wiper bracket FYI.
Kyle, when I looked at the GV60 and GV70, the buttons, toggles, and panels you say are plastic seemed to me to be made from an aluminum alloy. Why do you think they are plastic and not metal? Has Genesis confirmed your opinion about the "plastic" materials, or are they instead using a lightweight aluminum alloy?
Another great EV review! I recently installed a manual transfer switch to my house electrical panal. I use the V2L as a backup power source from ny GV60 for any residential power outages. 50,000 kWts usable!, take that Tesla power wall!
Home back up at 15 amps? Maybe you can power some lights and a microwave.. from my understand that’s all the eGMP V2L is capable of. It’s not like the Ford system which lets you use the CCS to push DC out to your home
10 circuit breakers during a power outage; refrigerator, LED lights in every room , ceiling fans in 2 rooms, 2 laptops, security system and cameras, 2 Garage door openers, electronic controls for a natural gas water heater, gas range, gas heater , wifi and modem, 2 LED TVs, bathroom vent fans. If these all ran at once , one fan will take me over the 15 amp level. We won't run all these items together during a power outage. In SoCal, we only barely need to run the AC, so that is a non issue for us.
re: "take that Tesla power wall!" SUCK IT ELON...!!!
I like the body design of this MUCH more than the GV60. (GV70 seems like it was designed to compete directly against Porsche Macan, which is a good target to aim for imo). Glad to see Hyundai/Genesis bring their A-Game; competition is a good thing for consumers :)
Have to wonder about that charge port on the front grill. Lots of fun accessing that in the middle of winter when the front end is plastered with slush. Designed by people living in a warm climate.
I hope you guys take Alyssa's e-tron to California for the Q8 drive.
Every-time I see this GV70e, it keep reminding me the Audi e-tron, it is just a bit smaller (Q5 size?) and charge a bit faster. It will be a car to get if I need to replace my e-tron.
I’m thinking it might be worth it to spend a little bit more for &80k Q8 etron premium plus instead.
I vastly prefer USB-A ports (24:20) to USB-C ports. We have 10-15 years worth of USB-A input cords, and everything needs an expensive cord adaptor to get to USB-C.
Things you don't typically see on high-end Benz or BMW............like massive amounts of piano black? LOL
Fingerspitzengefühl
is the word for the feeling in Germany quality, the feeling that is lacking in cars from Asia.
Dang, in Canada this thing is 85k, and only 58k for the gas version. After taxes that's a 30k difference. That buys a huge amount of gas and saves all the range headaches. It also won't qualify for any rebates here because it's well over the 70k price limit for rebates here.
That's going to be a tough sell.
It's not a $30k difference when compared to the highest trim 3.5. $77.5k vs $84.15K. And frankly the EV version blows the 3.5 away.
+1. At $85k CAD this is well within spitting distance of the BMW iX eDrive50 and Audi Q8 55 e-tron, and those cars are significantly bigger battery & range, not to mention far more prestigious brands.
@@Trades46 Not within spitting distance at all. I was shopping the Q8 to replace my wife’s SQ5 and optioned the same as the GV70 the Q8 is $110k + $2k lux tax + whatever bs dealer charges they throw on top. The GV70 was $84150 + GST which is $30k less than the Audi when all is said and done. I don’t care about prestige, I care about the drive. And I prefer driving the Genesis.
The waiting time to have GV70-EV is about 6 to 8 months or even longer. The sales manager told me many people moved on to other EVs. He said to me that GV70-EV only has shiny chrome side window trim. The gas engine gets dark gray chrome window trim. That's too bad because the shiny chrome side window trim makes GV70 look cheap on Makalu Gray Matte exterior color.
Blows my mind they have false information on the media kits about the charging. Not even close to accurate! Best I got was 197kW
How about Tesla's over inflated range numbers? Blows all our minds. Also, the E-GMP 800v EVs charging curves slaps Teslas short curve where tesla can't even sustain a high charge rate. The GV70e, although not on the E-GMP, may still have a better charging curve than slow charging teslas.
My eGV70 is charging at 247 kW until 60%. Starting at 229 kW.
Sorry but the GV70 feels a lot more premium than the comparable Audi. I think you need to revisit the competition.
I feel like I need a definition of what a luxury vehicle is from what he's talking about. Are we talking about S class luxury? Of course this won't be that nice. Are we talking about equivalent priced luxury cars? Because this definitely matches them or is nicer. Or maybe I'm just honestly not experiencing something that he is.
Hi.. I love watching your channel, but when did 70k become reasonable for a car? It would be nice to see you guys dedicate a channel to new cars under 40k for the average consumer. It’s great you guys can buy and drive 100k cars like it’s nothing but for a lot of us, that’s just not feasible.
I would love to see your mom reaction as she drove the Gv60 and compare it to the Gv70
Reason why they say it’s the electrified GV 70 is because the gas model came out first
And it also uses recyclable materials and Mike the gas model
It was out in China before it came here a year and a half ago
I think it would be great to do a comparison between this, and the Ix3.
I love my family Santa Fe plug-in hybrid
An Australian reviewer suggested that the GPS system didn’t incorporate where charging stations could be found. What have you found?
This is probably a half-truth. The trip-planner feature is not functional in the Hyundai Ioniq 5, it’s implemented poorly in the Ioniq 6, but they do let you select an EV charger POI
Room in rear seat looks tight
It very much is!
Those raindrops are falling on the hood.
They keep falling.
They can feel it.
It doesn't qualify for the federal credit as of the end of March when purchasing because they changed the requirements to be tighter then. The battery materials are now also needed to be not from China so it fails on that. It had met the $7500 credit from Jan to end of March but very few were produced in that timeframe. I read that if you lease this car, you can get the full $7500 credit though as there is a loophole in the law when leasing instead of purchasing.
Me thinks Alyssa likes Airstreams! With Harmon International owning so many brands, the audio electronics tend to be very similar, just different tuning. Having had BMWs, I do prefer the iDrive style selector knob as opposed to the touch screen.
I didn’t understand is it more comfortable than the etron?
Thank you to Alyssa for comparing it her etron!
Unfortunately, I don't believe the GV70 Electrified Qualifies for the EV Tax Credit despite final assembly in the US. I am sure there is a lease program available to get around this.
I think than you mom is still not driving her GV60 anymore. Did you call her on mother’s day ? 😉
Great video, thanks for sharing! I do think the better value somewhat luxury vehicle would be the Cadillac Lyriq. Longer range, larger interior, adequate charging speeds and SuperCruise. Also, it’s less expensive.
Ive got one and love it but will be moving out of it soon. I do charge level 2 at home but my daily commute including work, picking up wife and children is on average 160 miles per day and I'm really struggling with the poor range since those ultra fast chargers don't exist anywhere near my commute. I'll be looking at Tesla Model Y long range kind of sadly because of range and a huge supercharge station very close to my office if needed to top up.
I think I saw one on the freeway yesterday. It just looked weird, frumpy from the back. I was stumped for what it was and never got a look at the badge, convinced it was some one-off French deal or maybe a new Vinfast or Mullen or some BYD grey market car, but it had to be one of these. Those two rows of LEDs at the back are fugly, as is the arc of the hatch.
Does Kyle ever meet an EV he doesn't like, particularly if its very expensive? More coverage of EV's on the lower end of the price spectrum, please, including those outside the US. I think the high end of the automotive market is sold on EV's. It's at the mid-price point level where a lot of work needs to be done. I have a BMW i4 which I'm very happy with. Averaging 4.1 miles per KWH. But as I think about the future, I want something closer to a Chevy Bolt, with better charging and range capabilities.
Is the center display too small for gps map? Why is it so much smaller than Tesla and other EVs?
Really love these Genesis EV’s, these and the Mercedes EQ’s should be perfect for LA
I used to park in that garage when I was at CSU lol
Not a fan of Genesis styling, but it's nice to have a mid-range luxurious option to differentiate from the rest of the market. Let's see the charging curve and efficiency of this thing!
This and the Genesis G80-EV seem like seriously underappreciated EVs.
They're gorgeous inside & out, extremely well-priced for what they are, have the 800V batteries of the E-GMP cars, perform well, are built nicely, get reasonably good range (particularly the G80-EV), and don't have a theta engine to blow up!
Yeah I’ve never pulled more than a 183KW on my G80 EV on a EA 350KW charger and 132KW on a EA 150KW charger. I called my G80 EV old man interior (brown) as well! I’m also from Florida! That’s 😅
5:11 It's all about the charging, not the capacity - your words! 😇
Glad the UX guys got the copywriters to make a manual for the nav. LOL
Just a small criticism as a headphone user. There was a really loud cough about half way through that was deafening. Other wise really good
Gensis is notorious for stealth marketing
Love to see it
It rips
Go shred
Exterior reminds me a lot of the Mazda CX-5
Yep. Weird criticisms that most people never notice. Sounds like a solid business plan to smartly reduce the price. Genesis is the hero we needed.
14:50 how different is the specs form a V2L adapter compared to the on-board outlets?
It has a rear wiper. Sold.
I really like this but the range kills it for my needs.
Charging time 15 minutes!!! (from 10 to 80%). Nobody else can do it out there
i dont get why people ding a car for USB A. Usually you can get an A to C or whatever else you want to charge. USB A is the most practical.
I think I'd rather stick with a GV60. What I'm not keen on with Genesis is that, if you opt for a whitish interior, the steering wheel also has that color. Not a good idea.
gv60 has girlish exterior imho
Wow, another $70,000+ EV. It would be great to see more affordable options. Electric vehicles will not replace ICE vehicles until prices come way down.
Hey, somebody here gets it. I'm tired of seeing these super expensive EVs. Where's the $20k ICE equivalent of an EV? And don't say Bolt or Leaf, the Bolt is being discontinued.
This is a premium plus electric car, so of course the price is $70k plus.. There are plenty of cheaper electric cars available, many are manufactured in China and Europe. There aren't even any ICE SUVs under $25k that are huge sellers: The Chevy Trak/Ford Eco Sport? You get a cheap driving experience with those cars. If you want an inexpensive electric car, there is VW's iD.4, Chevy Bolt EUV, Mini e, pre owned BMW i3, Nissan Leaf.. These cars drive way better than a Trak or Eco Sport.
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But the Bolt is still a cheaper option regardless if its being discontinued. Chevy will replace it with another affordable electric car. The electric car market is growing every year.. If you can't afford one or refuse to buy one, just continue to buy an ICE car, you have options, no one is forcing you to buy anything you don't desire.
@@mamadouaziza2536 Bolt has slow charging that doesn't make it ideal for anything other than local driving.
And still, that's not really a lot of options.
The ID4 already exists and the equinox EV is coming soon. There aren’t any SUVs at $20k that you actually want to buy, but the ID4 is nicer than almost any fossil powered SUV at that same $30k price point
Oh it’s only 80 000 !!!
Wow … what a bargain when most Americans can really afford cars from 20-40,000.00 way to go !! Hooray !!!
At least it is built here.
That is an awesomely integrated charge door, best one yet. But yeah, overpriced. Good review!
I agree so much. The front bumper is the best location for it and in this car it's hidden perfectly. I bet some customers really struggle to find it the first time they charge.
Please don’t tell me that your Audi Q8 e-tron doesn’t have any hard plastic,and all the buttons are all not made of plastic, when I went to check the audi electric vehicle at auto show, I left their booth right away, their electric vehicle interior are so cheaply made,hard plastic everywhere, piano black surface, disgusting
Nice hyundai kia, genisis ev.
NEMA 5-15 plug for EVSE?
I think gv60 is for women. Your mom owning it supports my feeling. Just not too manly exterior. But this one and GV80 especially - for men.
Dude, just do a bad weather range test. Look, I know you want to know the range in optimal conditions, but naysayers always complain about bad conditions. So why not start doing bad condition tests in addition to standard ones?
Check with your mom. She may have sold the GV6.
Come on Kyle you keep telling people you need to open an swipe when you don’t just use apple wallet and tap Ea pass and phone were it says membership
Ridiculous front trunk. If I am going to go BEV then a large frunk is essential.
But will it rust like a Kia?
Does out of spec mom know about this?
I don't think it's fooling people. I think it is keeping cost affordable. I wouldn't notice or care.
Overpriced and dealers still want markup
Looks nice, but I’d still go with a model Y
that is bad frunk space, upvoted!!
I’m guessing the “T” pose is your trademark? Seems to be an ongoing trend with youguys
My coworker has a GV70 and this looks shorter than her ICE one. I know you’re 6 ft+ but it looks not as tall
Exterior dimensions are all the same. Are you speaking about the interior space and headroom? If so, it's the same as the Electrified G80 with the battery pack in the floor that raises the seats a bit. The G80 is a little worse since it's a sedan, but it's compromised in this some too.
Price is too high and range is too low. I'll pass.
😂 A conveyed ICE platform? What a joke!!
I hate OE Spec tires. They're often designed to wear out in 15,000 miles, or some else has been cheated to make them cheaper.
The issue is the Electrified GV70 cost $84k CAD. Compare that to the $59k XC40 Recharge, $64k Q4 e-tron and even the already expensive $69k Model Y....
Yeah completely noncompetitive in Canada.
The stacked dual exhaust doesn’t look as good and the leveled exhaust but GV70é settles that debate. The light interior is the best of the two choices and the most popular. The $7,500 lease MSRP reduction solves the battery pack tax credit issue in 2023. The trunk button is on the wiper pivot point. I’d rather have my IONIQ 5 rear cabin space and save the money. Nice introduction video. 46:43
So is this just a fancy Kona/Niro EV, but with E-GMP internals?
How in the world in this vehicle the designers managed to make leg room in the back vanish while the vehicle is almost midsized? Then by making it too swoop in the rear they compromised the luggage compartment as well! Then the price is too high!
Yeah, no kidding. Kyle kept referring to this car as "midsize". For being midsize, it has worse legroom than a Model 3, and that's a sedan...
Nice Hyundai Genesis. I still wonder if their quality has improved. I unfortunately purchased a Kia Sedona some years ago. Sold it quickly because many of the interior bits were failing and the paint was fading. My mom bought a Kia Sportage, which is still limping along, but already had multiple engine as well as paint issues after five years.
Value? Absolutely NOTHING about that speaks to “value” - it’s so expensive!
For what it delivers, perspective my friend.
A lot of money for mediocre range, charging and nav, and dodgy charging network all essential to a great road trip.
Can’t fast forward enough through the wordy parts
10 years ago, I thought that Tesla was only 10 years ahead of the competition. It might be more like 15.
Trunk open button is at the base of the wiper.
Ha - an ad for the ICE-powered GV80 came up in the middle of this vid. Clearly, they don't know their target audiience.
Seriously though - they're *advertising* 236 miles of range? That is insulting for the price point of this vehicle. They must have taken that page from the Audi playbook. It's a shame that they have geared all of their marketing and materials towards senior citizens (with all that paper and traditional, useless accoutrements). The styling is so sharp, but it's a no from me, dawg, with that laughable range and tiny rear seat. If they can find a way to squeeze in a 90 or 100 kWh battery, I think it would really make this vehicle competitive.
Coupe/Suv they call it
Except that it’s not a great value. At all. Maybe at $55k, not $70k+