Trading The Wheel Options Strategy - 3 Reasons Why You’d Lose Money With This Strategy

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  • Trading The Wheel Options Strategy - 3 Reasons Why You’d Lose Money With This Strategy | Coffee With Markus | Episode 138
    They say that more than 90% of traders lose money trading options. The wheel options strategy has been around for decades and it's one of the few strategies that can help you make consistent profits trading options.
    But you can also lose a lot of money when trading The Wheel options strategy!
    Watch this video to find out what these mistakes are, and how you can avoid them so you don't become part of the statistic!
    Intro: 0:00
    Common Mistakes: 2:15
    My Positions: 5:30
    Solutions: 14.50
    Deep Dive Q&A: 31:35
    This morning I woke up and my account was down $25,000 ($18K at the time of this video). This is on a margin account with $500K in buying power.
    3 Mistakes:
    1) Panicking and closing your positions at a loss.
    2) Not having a plan.
    3) Not having a tool that helps you make the right decisions. (PowerX Optimizer)
    Solutions:
    1) Don't Panic.
    2) Don't close your positions.
    3) Evaluate what's happening.
    4) Follow your plan/strategy.
    5) Have the right tool to make the best decisions
    5 Positions in my account:
    - AMD: if it stays above 83.50, I will make money = $576 in premium for the week
    - DBX - Needs to stay above 21.50 I'll make $611 in premium.
    - GDX (In Trouble): Last week I got assigned 2,100 shares at $48. I sold the 49 calls (21 contracts X $75) for $1,575 in premium.
    - RIDE (In Trouble): If stays above 21.50, I'll collect the premium. It is unlikely it will probably get assigned 4,700 shares at $21.50. I sold 21.50 put s (47) and collected $1,974.
    - AAPL (In Trouble): Got assigned 800 shares at $133.
    Collected a total of $4,736 this week.
    I am excited to get assigned. If you are not ok with getting assigned, you violated the number one rule of "The Wheel Club:"
    "Don't Sell Puts On Stocks You Don't Want To Own"
    After assignment, I will sell Calls and collect premium.
    I will get assigned 4700 shares of RIDE at 21.50.
    I will sell calls on Monday for about 0.43 and collect 2,021 in premium. (this is if RIDE opens on Monday around this price).
    GDXJ: Got assigned at 47, and was assigned 2,100 shares. If GDXJ stays about where it is on Monday and can sell calls at 0.60, I'll collect $1,260 in premium.
    With AAPL if I sell the 133 strike, I will get 0.13 making $134.
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  • @Harrop58
    @Harrop58 4 месяца назад +68

    My aunt passed and I inherited some of her portfolio and cash savings, I’m 28 with about 400k cash in savings and as usual everybody’s preaching invest, so what stocks are a good long term buy, only major purchase I intend to make is buying a home in 5years from my returns

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  4 месяца назад

      Keep learning first. You can listen to my audiobook here loom.ly/BV2QgYY

    • @SallyW414
      @SallyW414 2 месяца назад

      Vivian Jean Wilhelm is her name. She is regarded as a genius in her area and works for Empower Financial Services

    • @Harrop58
      @Harrop58 2 месяца назад

      Thanks for the advice. The search for your coach was simple. I investigated her well before using her services.

  • @sjonesjax3684
    @sjonesjax3684 3 года назад +6

    I really like your videos. Thank you for going over everything so simply.

  • @jackieciamarro2690
    @jackieciamarro2690 3 года назад +5

    Great video. Thank you for your transparency.

  • @Joeltraylorart
    @Joeltraylorart 3 года назад +1

    I'm learning so much from your videos and books. It's a little overwhelming at first but so worth it. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!

  • @rpeter46
    @rpeter46 2 года назад

    this is VERY helpful! Thank you, Markus!

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  2 года назад

      You are welcome! :) Care to share how this video has helped you in your trading?

  • @stevemeyer6308
    @stevemeyer6308 25 дней назад

    Great video!!

  • @oudishaked1828
    @oudishaked1828 3 года назад +1

    Hi Markus, missed the live show today, watching the recording now.
    Made money with the wheel this week despite the last 2 days. Thank you for teaching us NOT to panic and to follow the plan, I too love to get assigned. Love the wheel! 👍 have a great weekend :)

  • @Ernesto.Castellanos
    @Ernesto.Castellanos 2 года назад

    Yes breaking it down is very helpful. Keep up the great work!

  • @kinlee823
    @kinlee823 3 года назад

    Agreed. Please advise your updates on these stocks and why you didn’t roll positions.

  • @mwu0088
    @mwu0088 2 года назад +4

    I'm 9 months late, but thank you for your videos. Very straightforward with no frills attached. Easy to understand the concept!

  • @switchfire
    @switchfire 3 года назад

    Hey Markus, thanks for all of your informative videos! Quick question.. how are you calculating the "minimum option premium" when it comes to selling calls?

  • @ArtificialNightmares
    @ArtificialNightmares 2 года назад

    So lucky to have found your channel this week.

  • @CH1NOify
    @CH1NOify 3 года назад

    .. fantastic.. this is very educational channel. I love your personality sir and ty.

  • @christophermatthews4896
    @christophermatthews4896 3 года назад +2

    love the energy!

  • @jasonmurray4714
    @jasonmurray4714 3 года назад +5

    Watching this I had a lightbulb go off. That the stock you are assigned just happens to be a way your buying power manifests. Rather than cash (which you use to sell PUts) you have a stock (which you use to sell CALLs).
    I had always interpreted “stock you like to own” as a value stock (since that’s what I like to own). Now I see that it can also mean a stock that others would like to own so they won’t just fade forever.

  • @tonysierravista2280
    @tonysierravista2280 11 месяцев назад

    I am learning and appreciated the explaination.

  • @sks1570
    @sks1570 3 года назад

    Thank you Markus. I learned about the mistakes I am doing in wheel strategy👍🙏

  • @captainkrunch6372
    @captainkrunch6372 Год назад

    Excellent video, TYVM.

  • @rockwelltradingservices
    @rockwelltradingservices  3 года назад +1

    How is your trading plan going? Let me know how you're doing in the comments below.
    Recommended Links & Videos:
    Trading with Margin: ruclips.net/video/UHy84SOGl4Y/видео.html&feature=emb_logo
    Options Trading 101: bit.ly/2V7Nf9T
    The Options Wheel Strategy: ruclips.net/p/PLBa3sAx-Io2nosgosERUhIZwzvIgD-3Vq
    The PowerX Strategy Playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLBa3sAx-Io2l9ZV4s66J-uNkG6AJvhSPB

  • @rlg222
    @rlg222 3 года назад

    Keep doing this Sir! I like it!

  • @biqingtan4926
    @biqingtan4926 3 года назад

    Hi Markus, this video is so helpful. Thank you.

  • @cabindude7656
    @cabindude7656 2 года назад

    Thanks, very beneficial! 👍

  • @ranjanarora2769
    @ranjanarora2769 3 года назад +1

    Great video Markus, you have just calmed my nerves, was definitely panicking, going to work on my plans. Thank you!

  • @JRInTroy
    @JRInTroy 3 года назад

    very helpful, thank you

  • @tsleong1
    @tsleong1 3 года назад +10

    I'm a little confused about why you were assigned AAPL shares and were "unable" to sell premium against it, why not just sell above the assignment price, regardless of the amount you would collect? Isn't collecting $100 better than nothing? If it does go up you can roll another week to collect more premium which would give you a more respectable gain, if it doesn't go up to the sold strike you keep the $100. If it keeps falling another 7% you still collected more money? I would think the only premium which is not worth collecting is if the commissions would be more than the amount collected.

    • @RolfOptions
      @RolfOptions Месяц назад

      I am of the same opinion

  • @Elizabeth-tp5pt
    @Elizabeth-tp5pt 3 года назад

    Very clear, thanks

  • @gregbabin365
    @gregbabin365 3 года назад +1

    Very helpful video! I am in very similar position, just different stocks and much smaller scale.

  • @justchilling_.
    @justchilling_. Год назад

    Thanks for the lesson.

  • @SuperDave328
    @SuperDave328 3 года назад

    This strategy is working well for me! Thank you Markus!!!

  • @sfx1971
    @sfx1971 3 года назад

    Hi Markus. I love all of your videos but this is one of my favourites. Thanks for the great advice!

  • @singh2189
    @singh2189 3 года назад

    I like that you are sharing your account. Good or not so good positions
    No sugar coating. Tough love thanks.

  • @Hamlrts3rpic
    @Hamlrts3rpic 3 года назад

    yay I was the 300th like! small wins... big gains! Ordered your book 📙

  • @23johnnyy23
    @23johnnyy23 3 года назад +1

    Awesome video AGAIN! Markus...ty you for your openness, positivity and explaining situations. BRAVO!
    STOLAT! your friend JOHN S.

  • @lukshmebain5714
    @lukshmebain5714 3 года назад

    This video is very helpful and please make more like this

  • @kriswarrior9553
    @kriswarrior9553 3 года назад

    awesome possums Markus...loved it

  • @drews734
    @drews734 3 года назад +10

    I really like how you walk through the situations and what to do. I’m learning a lot from your videos. Thanks.

    • @carpdog42
      @carpdog42 3 года назад +1

      I would second this. I have watched a number of his videos now, and while he is definitely a salesman and does lay the pitch on a bit thick at times; He has really explained a lot of important things, talked through a number of situations, and I have yet to catch him BSing the details or trying to sell people on acting like maniacs. That "dropped my crystal ball" comment had me rolling; I wish more people in his position would leave their crystal balls at home.

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  3 года назад

      You are welcome! I am glad that this helps! :)

  • @markbloyd9852
    @markbloyd9852 3 месяца назад

    I was watching your videos a couple of years ago and learned so much. But I got out of trading because of time constraints. Now I'm looking into it again, and have been learning a lot from others, but they don't always make things as clear, nor do they usually share the down sides. For this I am so glad I came across your videos again. Thank you.

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  3 месяца назад

      Hi there!
      I'm Cristy, Markus Heioetter's assistant. Markus has a new audiobook out! It teaches you how to make more money through smart trading and investing.
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  • @aironwhite6533
    @aironwhite6533 Год назад

    Very nice video. I always like to look at how things can screw up and what you can do about it to help the trade in your favor.

  • @RosePigCooking
    @RosePigCooking 3 года назад

    When you sell puts do you use cash or margin?

  • @themrfabio2459
    @themrfabio2459 2 года назад +1

    While ride did not go as planned, I personally believe it’s one of the most valuable aspects of your RUclips channel. It shows the reality of trading and that it can quite literally happen to anyone if they get loose with their strategy.

  • @aboveaveragedadgaming1258
    @aboveaveragedadgaming1258 2 года назад

    Any thoughts on selling covered strangles if you are assigned on you put option. Collect premium on both ends?

  • @eggzy53
    @eggzy53 3 года назад

    Hey! Markus, you're a really useful person. I'm asking you to make more videos about Binary Options and their strategies. I hope you see this comment.

  • @bkco
    @bkco 3 года назад +2

    Hi Markus, do you look at the risk reward ratio (premium / buying power) or just look at the technical analysis?

  • @grltrader
    @grltrader 3 месяца назад

    I just found you - I’m going to test the wheel strategy on Monday using PLTR - just 1 contract. By the shares and then sell a covered call as long as the market looks like it might try to pop. I like and subbed and will be following your channel. Thanks for the great, detailed content .

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  3 месяца назад

      Awesome! Please reach out to social@rockwelltrading.com if you need assistance.

  • @mithundas1439
    @mithundas1439 3 года назад +9

    if we enter a bear market, would the wheel strategy work?

    • @sunyun4425
      @sunyun4425 3 года назад

      @@ChristmasLights2 keep buying more of the same contract of it starts to lose money?

  • @lawrence6075
    @lawrence6075 Год назад

    Great Video Markus !!

  • @tholm4307
    @tholm4307 3 года назад

    Love your content! So helpful thank you!! We’ve been trading the wheel for just 3 weeks now and got our first assignment today. How do you know at what point to sell the CC on Monday? When do you pull the trigger? Thanks!

    • @financeabcs
      @financeabcs 2 года назад

      I would sell calls with a strike price 5% to 10% above the market price. 😊

  • @ticks2012
    @ticks2012 2 года назад

    Hi Markus, thanks for your videos. it’s definitely helpful for a beginner options trader like me and your step by step demos using a live account definitely makes it easier to follow.
    have u been a lecturer / teacher by any chance? as your videos are easy to follow and understood! thank you

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  2 года назад

      Hi Xi T. I am not really a teacher by profession but teaching is my passion. ;) I am glad that you find this helpful. ;)

  • @HawkIjr
    @HawkIjr 3 года назад +3

    Sorry to see the drawdowns, but I really appreciate the transparency you are sharing with us.

  • @luismanuelmendoza789
    @luismanuelmendoza789 3 года назад +1

    I remember when I saw the start of the strategy and also tought that you where overly conservative... now I see! In Tuesday I had to close some of my positions to maintain the margin and had to close at a lose, almost 25% of my already small account was wiped out 😅😅, this time i let some room and thankfully fared better. I like the way you put even your loses! A lot of traders only put their wining trades and kind of want to make it look easy, almost like a scam! Thanks 🙏

  • @johndennis7752
    @johndennis7752 3 года назад +3

    Hey Markus! Great video --- I got assigned on ALL 5 of my positions this week! I am the happy owner of shares in GDXJ, AAPL, AMD, NIO, and RIDE. Monday should be exciting :-)

    • @simonmasters3295
      @simonmasters3295 3 месяца назад

      ...and what happened?

    • @johndennis7752
      @johndennis7752 3 месяца назад

      @simonmasters3295 this was several years ago when I was very new at trading. The first 4 positions closed successfully and RIDE was the group's nightmare. I closed RIDE when it dropped to 12 for about a $6500 loss. Lesson learned, I no longer trade companies with no revenue

    • @InvestorAcademyPodca
      @InvestorAcademyPodca Месяц назад +1

      Well, he isn’t the happy owner of RIDE.

    • @johndennis7752
      @johndennis7752 Месяц назад

      @@InvestorAcademyPodca this was a long time ago. I ended up closing that trade near $11 for a $6k loss. Good learning experience in my first year trading

  • @chrisdove1659
    @chrisdove1659 10 месяцев назад

    yes

  • @HormigasRD
    @HormigasRD 3 года назад

    Yes very helpful thank youuuuy!!!

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  3 года назад +1

      You are welcome! I am glad that this helps! :)

    • @HormigasRD
      @HormigasRD 3 года назад

      @@rockwelltradingservices wow you replied thank you !!! I call the weel my little cows of profit selling calls and puts

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  3 года назад

      Awesome! Thank you for watching! :)

  • @John.Mendes
    @John.Mendes 2 года назад

    I do love your videos

  • @amyo1585
    @amyo1585 3 года назад

    You're awesome Markus! Question -- You say if AMD & DBX close above $83.50 and $21.50 respectively, you'll just collect premium. Got it. Are the expiration dates of the option chain the same - February 26? I guess what I'm wondering is - do you do this evaluation (as your describing) every day? Or just when you're positions are deeply in the red? Or just when they are nearing expiration? Thanks :D

  • @slacker5462
    @slacker5462 3 года назад

    Markets with Markus!!

  • @otlorilori667
    @otlorilori667 7 месяцев назад

    I started trading this strategy before I even realized there was a name for it! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. ❤😊

  • @marshgray
    @marshgray 3 года назад +1

    Loved it. Im following this strategy in Indian market and it works perfectly fine there as well. Currently im in trouble where I might need to take delivery of a stock called HDFC Bank. But after this video I wont panic and will do more call selling of next expiry. Cheers!

  • @wesguild7804
    @wesguild7804 3 года назад

    Thanks for the video Markus, I'm stuck in a trade with WMT at the moment... Your AAPL trade is similar

  • @RolfOptions
    @RolfOptions Месяц назад

    Excellent explanation on various scenarios Markus. Question: why wouldn’t you sell Apple call below your cost basis? Lets assume you sell 100 strike, collect much higher premium, then there are two scenarios: price keeps dropping you collect that premium and reduce cost basis or price increases and you just roll out and up for a credit and still reduce cost basis. I think it is better than just waiting for a bounce. What do you think.

  • @rlg222
    @rlg222 3 года назад

    I've done this a few times last years and a little this years so far. Mostly penny stocks and not mid to large cap stocks. I hold them no matter what....

  • @jsm6557
    @jsm6557 3 года назад

    Very good

  • @Downsize1940
    @Downsize1940 Год назад

    But when you're assigned with AAPL won't you be paying the interest on your margin until the price rebounds and you get your covered call assigned at the cost basis?

  • @richardthorne2804
    @richardthorne2804 3 года назад +2

    You have been such a blessing to my trading. I love the wheel; my plan isn’t as aggressive as far as ROI so I’m selling way out of the money puts but I’m still making a good monthly income. I have not yet been assigned but I know will likely make way more when I do get assigned. Thanks so much.

    • @randallewebb
      @randallewebb 3 года назад

      That is really great. I am curious just how far OTM you are going?
      To me that is the benefit with options....you can take on as much risk as you want. That way you are balanced and can always stay calm.
      Also it is important to invest a certain size of your portfolio and have enough cash available for assignment.

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  3 года назад

      Hi Richard Thorne, thanks for watching. And thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated. "See you" in the next video 👍

  • @goyummytrends
    @goyummytrends 2 года назад

    This guy is high all the time. Love it

  • @tervelacademy
    @tervelacademy 3 года назад

    Marcus, would you recommend to sell put verticals instead of naked puts to save/optimize some capital? At the end not all of your positions will be assigned.

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  3 года назад

      Nah.... the math. just doesn't work out. When you trade verticals, you are buying an insurance. that you don't need. 95% of the time. For me, that's wasting money. But every trader is different. Just do whatever works best for YOU. Selling cash-secured puts works well for me. 👍

  • @sonnyn5119
    @sonnyn5119 Год назад

    Hi,
    Does it make sense to buy to close once you reach your max profit, before expiration date, to avoid
    losses and getting assigned?
    Are there any pros and cons to do this?
    Thank you in advance!

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  Год назад

      Great question. I did a video explaining this topic last weeK. Take a look and let me know what you think: ruclips.net/video/W7q_lD5DXng/видео.html
      Does this help?

  • @cryptopanda6641
    @cryptopanda6641 3 года назад

    Yes! Markus.

  • @bluestarindustrialarts7712
    @bluestarindustrialarts7712 3 года назад

    He Mark, how do I access the Optimizer??

  • @sunyun4425
    @sunyun4425 3 года назад +1

    In your first example with AMD GDX DBX RIDE AAPL, the cost to cover all those contracts would be close to 400k, are you playing with cash or using margin? How much margin? Can you cover how to use margin with options?

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  3 года назад +1

      Yes, I use MARGIN, and I'm using the "standard" 2:1 margin for all my calculations, even though I have portfolio margin, which is 5:1.

  • @SnRGlobalIndustries
    @SnRGlobalIndustries 3 года назад

    It reminds me of that classic song: Roll your trade roll, roll, roll your trade! Its a boat? who would roll a boat?

  • @APluralTon
    @APluralTon 3 года назад

    I feel like im hearing Owen Wilson, and i love it

  • @michaelhernandez4932
    @michaelhernandez4932 3 года назад +2

    Why didn’t you buy to close the puts and roll them out farther out in expiration?

    • @financeabcs
      @financeabcs 2 года назад

      That would have been my preference!! Just roll the put forward and offset the loss to cover the put with the premium of the next put you sold!! That gives you more time for the underlying to move in your favor!! 😊

  • @johnbeach2770
    @johnbeach2770 3 года назад +3

    I was assigned WKHS at $35 a few weeks ago. I was excited to own and then sell premium, but now the equity is half the price after it lost the USPS bid. I will continue to sell calls, but its looking like it will take a LONG time to make enough premium to turn green on this one trade. Is being patient a good decision. I am NOT nervous or panicking - but I wonder is closing the loss will open up the capital for better trades? Thoughts?

    • @sethmatlock7424
      @sethmatlock7424 3 года назад +2

      I am not a financial advisor and a beginning trader IMO the best way to recoup your loss would be sell CC closer to current trading prices if they are in danger of being called away roll your price up and out a week

  • @raymundpoh
    @raymundpoh 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for this Markus, sad that I just came upon your videos only now. If I had seen this earlier it would have help me avoid my current 60k unrealised lost. This has wiped out my options premium of 15k profit for 3.5months.

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  2 месяца назад

      I am sorry to hear that. At Rockwell Trading, we believe that we earn more when we learn more. By the way, this is Cristy, Markus’s page admin. He has a new audiobook teaching people how to make generational wealth by trading and investing smartly. Would you like a copy?

  • @billslaughter9518
    @billslaughter9518 3 года назад

    Do you have a preference Covered Call or Cash secured Put?
    What (if any) defensive actions would you take if it looked like you were being called away, more specifically if the stock shot up much higher and you were now (FOMO) missing out on those profits? Or does the wheel not care and banks the premium.

  • @jaelee56
    @jaelee56 3 года назад

    l am learning.

  • @sinmaan7568
    @sinmaan7568 2 года назад

    Very good video. Very useful. But how can you lose money on the wheel? Your trade were all pretty positive? Thanks for sharing the wisdom!

  • @masoudmokhtari8997
    @masoudmokhtari8997 2 года назад

    Thanks Markus

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  2 года назад +1

      You are welcome! ;) What have you learned so far?

    • @masoudmokhtari8997
      @masoudmokhtari8997 2 года назад

      @@rockwelltradingservices a lottt. Wheel strategy, power x strategy, indicators, support & resistance, and keep going and learning with your amazing and unique teaching videos. Thanks for every minute you are spending for teaching

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  2 года назад

      Awesome! ;) I am glad to provide value!

  • @What2expectinthehospital
    @What2expectinthehospital 3 года назад

    I like you investing mindset

  • @desiexpat7
    @desiexpat7 3 месяца назад +1

    doing options on AMD and Aapl now after 3 years....@202 and 165 strikes.....validates your point...good stocks go up significantly...just buy them if you get assigned and keep doing covered calls. What fo you think of etfs like SOXL to do options with including covered calls?

    • @RolfOptions
      @RolfOptions Месяц назад

      SOXL pays much more premium. That is my number one stock to sell a wheel on.

  • @sethmatlock7424
    @sethmatlock7424 3 года назад +1

    Markus, on the AAPL trade why not sell calls below 133 for this increased premium if they become in danger of being exercised roll up and out? Any reason you don’t do this?

    • @financeabcs
      @financeabcs 2 года назад +1

      Not a bad idea. Just continue to collect premiums. Roll them forward!! 🙏

  • @vishalsinghal7234
    @vishalsinghal7234 3 года назад

    Assignment of share, before expiry or we wait till expiry.

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  3 года назад

      Hi Vishal Singhal, thanks for watching. Much appreciated. "See you" in the next video 👍

  • @alleneverhart4141
    @alleneverhart4141 3 года назад +4

    So, instead of rolling the option on Friday afternoon, Markus prefers riding "bareback" over the weekend - smoking the hopium of price improvement in the underlying on Monday ... or Tuesday ... or whatever. At some point, if the price does not come back you gotta close the position for a big loss or write that option that "locks-in" a loss, just to lower your cost basis. This is the tricky/art of the wheel trade Markus ain't tawkin-bow cuz he wants to blow sunshine up your xxx.

    • @johnp7739
      @johnp7739 3 года назад +3

      What gets me are all these really young guys who started RUclips channels last summer doing the Wheel and other option-selling strategies. They don't even have a track record during last March when the market tanked. They seem to think the market can only go up and selling premium is free money.

    • @richardthorne2804
      @richardthorne2804 3 года назад +2

      @@johnp7739 there is risk in the stock market. And yes you can stress anything to the point that it’s impossible to recover. But that’s highly unlikely. The market has always recovered after every correction and bear market particularly quality companies. If you have fear stay out of stocks b/c you will panic and make poor decisions.

    • @thomasd5488
      @thomasd5488 3 года назад

      @allen everhart
      "At some point, if the price does not come back you gotta close the position for a big loss or write that option that "locks-in" a loss, just to lower your cost basis." Rule #1) NEVER close a position for a loss. That includes, NEVER sell a cc with a strike BELOW your cost basis.
      Obviously you missed his video showing how he ended up with a profit even after TQQQ tanked. It was EXATLY the tricky/art of the wheel trade he showed us.
      Jealousy is wanting what someone else has. Envy is not wanting someone to have something, if you can't have it too. I'm guessing you are both. You are jealous and envious of his success, as a trader, and a teacher. Sour grapes, man.

    • @alleneverhart4141
      @alleneverhart4141 3 года назад +1

      @@johnp7739 Sorry for the harsh words but I think maybe people needed an injection of some trading reality. Sometimes stocks go down and they don't come back. And if they do come back it could be years before they recover. A perfect example is GE, my personal wheel waterloo. I started a wheel trade on GE when it was trading in the $40 range. As GE's price fell, I took assignment on my shorted-puts and rolled call options on GE stock down to $20. Then, the roll premiums I was getting at $20 would have taken some 3 or 4 years to break even on the +$20 loss on the shares. Eventually I wised up, took the loss and found a better wheel opportunity. Given that GE went down into single digits and has barely recovered into the "tweener" price range, I consider taking that loss at $20 to be one of my better trading decisions.

    • @cramsa
      @cramsa 3 года назад +1

      @@alleneverhart4141 exactly... my parents had GE Corporate bonds that blew up on them... “lucky” they only lost 80% when they dumped them... some fools stayed on the sinking ship and lost everything.
      Markus gave some VERY BAD ADVICE about holding a losing position forever.

  • @soulure
    @soulure 3 года назад +4

    Me watching this while ride is at $12 strike. I am so feeling your pain right now.

  • @722guy
    @722guy 3 года назад +5

    What if you got assigned a stock like CCL in Feb 2020 . and then March happened. How would you trade?

    • @wesguild7804
      @wesguild7804 3 года назад

      Markus did a video on Black Swan events. Hopefully no one would be Wheeling cruise stocks at the onset of a pandemic, which was obvious in February 2020

    • @brucey5585
      @brucey5585 3 года назад

      Buy that nice dip at $8 to avg down

  • @johnsaleem470
    @johnsaleem470 3 года назад

    aBSOLUTELY HELPFU mARKUS!

  • @diggingdeeper7158
    @diggingdeeper7158 3 года назад +2

    You use a 250k margin. What´s the interest you pay for this money and where do these expenses show up in your accounting? With regard to risk management, what happen´s when markets tank like they did in 2008; aren´t you afraid of blowing up your account? Thanks.

    • @dagmarski4133
      @dagmarski4133 3 года назад

      “Only when the tide goes out do you discover who’s been swimming naked” -Warren Buffett

  • @jwrbike
    @jwrbike 3 года назад +6

    Why not sell the AAPL calls for small premium? Get paid a little to wait a week and try again. Or are you hoping for more premium early next week. Thanks

    • @billhunt6562
      @billhunt6562 3 года назад +1

      This is my question also. Why not sell AAPL cc at .30 Delta (or whatever; maybe go to .20 Delta for a position "underwater") to optimize income of that position at this time? If it gets called away, fine, sell CSP again next week. Sitting on the stock seems to expose you to more downside if we are headed into a bigger correction.

    • @alleneverhart4141
      @alleneverhart4141 3 года назад

      Markus made a judgement call here. He believes that AAPL will recover sufficiently for the next-Friday 133 calls to be worth something. IMHO, that is smoking a bowl of hopium. I think he should have rolled his 133 calls to the 128 strike, a delta of .24, where he would have collected $1.13 per share and have less than a 50% probability of touch. There is no reason why AAPL couldn't decline more. It has a +30 PE and pays a paltry .67% yield - why do you think Uncle Warrants is lightening his AAPL cart!? At the current dividend payout AAPL would have to go down to $41 to have a 2% yield - comparable to the other DOW and S&P stocks. This idea of avoiding "locking-in" a loss by selling a call below your assignment price is bogus. If he sold the 128 calls and they got called away - he would have recovered some $8 or $9 of a $13 loss and could turn around and sell puts again - and maybe AAPL would pay him back ... maybe.

    • @dukeofearlyretirement
      @dukeofearlyretirement 3 года назад +1

      @@alleneverhart4141 Yes, I wonder about selling calls underwater too. Perhaps selling underwater weekly calls and if the share price starts popping back up within striking distance, roll up and out... a cat and mouse strategy. Or would the mouse just get eaten? I might take that chance.

    • @alleneverhart4141
      @alleneverhart4141 3 года назад

      @@dukeofearlyretirement Yes. Markus collected a premium for selling a 133 put and another for selling a 133 call that expired worthless. His cost basis is around 131. So, it appears that the Markus strategy is to never book a trade that is a loss through the assignment mechanism. It's a bit specious but it kind-of works in terms of capital gains. If your'e in an retirement account where capital gains aren't really a concern then it's a different game.

  • @larosa4574
    @larosa4574 3 года назад +2

    Why not sell the calls when you’re deep in the money at expiration(Friday)? Is it smart to risk what the stock will do on Monday?

    • @CodeMonkey188
      @CodeMonkey188 3 года назад +2

      There is always a risk of not being assigned at all, and then you'd be left with naked calls and be much more vulnerable to pre-market moves on Monday.

  • @dimkaboussy3126
    @dimkaboussy3126 Месяц назад

    If you get assigned do you use the margin as you have to buy

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  Месяц назад

      When you get assigned on an options contract, it means you are obligated to fulfill the terms of the contract, which could involve buying or selling the underlying asset. If you do not have the necessary cash in your account to cover the purchase of the underlying asset, you may need to use margin to complete the transaction. Margin allows you to borrow funds from your broker to cover the purchase, but it's important to be aware of the associated costs and risks, such as margin interest and potential margin calls. It's crucial to understand how margin works and manage your account prudently to avoid any adverse consequences.

  • @sunyun4425
    @sunyun4425 3 года назад +1

    Markus, how much margin do you use when trading options?

    • @financeabcs
      @financeabcs 2 года назад +1

      I don’t use more than 20% (notional amount of underlying compared to entire portfolio).

  • @jonathanseeman1438
    @jonathanseeman1438 2 месяца назад

    does the premium go into cash or does it go to buying power?

    • @rockwelltradingservices
      @rockwelltradingservices  2 месяца назад

      The premium you receive when selling an option typically goes into your cash balance rather than directly increasing your buying power. It adds to the cash available in your account that you can use for other trades or withdrawals.

  • @scubasteve117
    @scubasteve117 Год назад

    Would love to join your live chat on Monday if it's still going.

  • @libyawedisabe5680
    @libyawedisabe5680 3 года назад +1

    How do I learn to trade options ?

    • @financeabcs
      @financeabcs 2 года назад

      Watch a lot of RUclips videos!! 😊

  • @captainkrunch6372
    @captainkrunch6372 Год назад

    I was gonna get assigned 1k shares of NKLA on Friday but I closed position, however I didn't want any open positions this week because of Q2 data thus week, possible recession. That was my plan.

  • @useemehere2
    @useemehere2 3 года назад

    What a great explanation, just don't panic because it is normal for the market to go up and down. This month you lose next two month your even and next following you are a winner again as long you don't sell and will keep holding your Stock. You will get panic only if War happened.

  • @jaredtami6738
    @jaredtami6738 3 года назад

    You took a position in ride? I see you're a man of good taste, sub'd.

  • @chocotv3573
    @chocotv3573 Год назад

    I like this strategy you just leave your trade until expiration it's so simple. Unlike other option channel they are discussing IV rank, standard deviation, broken butterfly, and so on and on... is so difficult to follow complicated graphs.

  • @RicardoHernandez-zr1pw
    @RicardoHernandez-zr1pw 3 года назад +2

    But my stocks dipped too much and the selling of Calls provides very little premiums now. How do I fix this?

    • @RicardoHernandez-zr1pw
      @RicardoHernandez-zr1pw 3 года назад

      @sam chump ARKK and PLTR are my most recent bag holders. They keep going lower and lower.

    • @bluesky5587
      @bluesky5587 3 года назад

      This is the problem with the wheel ...we get into a down market which will happen for sure at some time ....and we all will be left holding stocks ..which is fine ...but all,premium income will cease ...... unless u sell calls at loss strikes to keep premium flowing ? Is that part of the wheel plan? Or is the plan to just sit it out and hold until recovery rolls around.

    • @bluesky5587
      @bluesky5587 3 года назад

      @sam chump hi Sam ... I must disagree .... look here with Apple ... markus is in a holding pattern ...and this is a small drop in market .... when or if we get a major correction ....and it is likely at some time ..... all stocks in a wheel will have to be held like apple here or sell calls and puts and get assigned with principal loss .... it will happen eventually ... so my take is make sure you sell options on stocks or better still etf like QQQ or SPY ... that you can happily hold for months or year and not sell massive premium on ...you could sell call way out of money and manage them so as to protect your shares .... plus do not be caught in margin as you will not have the luxury of waiting it out.

    • @bluesky5587
      @bluesky5587 3 года назад

      @sam chump thanks Sam ...I must check out UVXY...good to be prepared and have a plan like Markus suggests.