'IDEOLOGICAL MADNESS!' | Richard Tice SLAMS Labour Over Farmers, Pensioners & Armed Forces
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- Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024
- Reform UK deputy leader Richard Tice joins Jeremy Kyle to criticise the Labour Party's policies on inheritance tax for farmers, noting that 75% of small commercial farms are affected.
Tice highlighted the economic impact of these policies, including a farmer cancelling a £1 million strawberry expansion and a £300,000 equipment purchase.
They also criticized the government's defence cuts and foreign aid spending, emphasizing the need for a smaller, more productive public sector and promoting entrepreneurship and small businesses, along with news that even more pensioners could be hit with further attacks from Keir Starmer's party.
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Vote reform
You’ve gotta love Lee Anderson. “Rachel from accounts” Bloody brilliant 😂😂😂😂😂
@@dellakennedy2010 "Cannabis Farmers".🤣🤣😂😂😂
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I had got a mouth full of coffee when Lee said that and I spat it out choking with laughter. It was the best 😂😂
Top bloke , him and richard and nigel would sort out this country.
I loved Lees comment .. there was another Mp who quoted the punishment for lying on their CV
I support the Farm right
That's a good one.
😂 excellent
@@redplanetplasterer Farm right🤣.😊👨🌾🚜
Their not farm right just right so farm .
Support for the farmers is growing 😋
So pleased all 5 Reform mps went to support the farmers ❤❤❤
How often do you listen to an MP and burst out laughing for all the right reasons? Well done Richard, vote Reform and lets get this country back on its feet!
Brilliant, love reform, please vote reform, our best chance of getting our country back on track, we need hope and light, not dismal disgusting starmer xxxxxxx
I'm no supporter of Labour but I don't think that replacing them with Reform is the solution for the organized chaos in our country.
Rachel from accounts- that name needs to stick....
She wasn't from accounts she was from Customer service.😮
Rachel Thieves.
@@paulwalker2777Complaints Department.
Control the food, control the people.
Starmer the farmer harmer this will be the last time labour are allowed to run this country what a shower
Thats been said before
Reform all the way.
Best laugh I've had tonight love Richard he talks the talk.
Its bloody ridiculous 🙄 We have elderly people sitting in their homes in coats gloves hats & scarfs just to stay warm, constantly worried about turning the poxy lights on so will often sit in the dark or use torches or candles, people that have given their lives over to the protection of the uk past & present as service men & women now living on our streets homeless, yet we have people who have illegally broke into Britain being put up in hotels free to sit in their brightly lit rooms with heating at full wack, food in their bellies & a nice warm bed not a care in the world or worry about paying for it....bloody ludicrous.
I’m nearly sixty with disability my bungalow turns into a fridge without heat, I get benefits tomorrow but tonight have none and am freezing,he wants to kill the elderly to house illegal imagrants. Sorry about spelling,suffer brain injury.
And don't forget doctors and dentists 24/7. Its disgusting!
I have been saying this for months, I get no reply👺👺👺👺👺there are hundreds of men being kept in hotels DOING NOTHING???? Why are the British people being taxed on even pensions???? It's screwy!👺👺👺👺👺
I agree with every word you have written
Well said. totally agree. it’s a disgrace
pensioners never vote for Labour because they know what they are about.
Yes your right because we've seen and heard it many times before
My late parents used to say never vote for Labour they will tax you left right and centre
Yes you’re right we have lived through Labour so many times and they are always clueless!!!!!!
Do think this shower the worst in history though!!!!’
I never have! But your wrong many many Pensioners have for years Voted Labour but that has probably changed now
@riolewis4713 it's like the 70s all over again but worse. This time there aren't any politicians of gravitas and knowledge just a bunch of Marxist students on one side and left leaning liberals masquerading as Tories on the other. Happy days
Great interview.
Love All 5 Reform Mps
Join the resistance 🇬🇧 💙 🇬🇧💙🇬🇧
This country is like a father who donates money to charities whilst his children are cold and hungry. Charity begins at home !
Release ALL the political prisoners from prison, INCLUDING TOMMY ROBINSON WHO'S THE MOST PATRIOTIC MAN WE WILL EVER SEE IN OUR LIFETIME.
Even the labour MPs were laughing at Rachel from accounts
Apparently anyone who doesn't agree with Starmer is far right, Labour, a right bunch of pillocks.
Well, I'm far right then
@@KKeebeeB You far right pillock. Only joshing.
I could think of a better word!!!
Going to a banned meeting with every far right nutcase in Europe tells us everything we need to know about Farage, Tice and the other reform henchmen.
Labour is far right part of the new World Socialist Citizens Party as is China wake up
Rayner left school with more kids than qualifications...
I actually quite like Rayner tbh
Can’t stand her stupid voice😡😡
@@matthewv4170hope that's a joke ffs
Blimey, no wonder she called it the Ginger Growler then!
That's no surprise is it?? she has an NVQ in Care, of course that's how she got to be deputy PM 🤣🤣🤣
Richard Tice talks common sense no wonder the Reform Party is becoming more popular with many people
And why msm try & trash him & Reform at every opportunity.
@paulinej2834 Definitely many people have had enough of the mainstream political party's
He's a good communicator with all the sense and polish that Liebour lacks
They've lost numerous voters just because of him?
Reform all the way
Why don't they sack some of the civil servants to save money!
They don't know they've got any they're still working from home
@@paulslater9061The civil servants may have knowledge of wrong doing??
Not spending billions on illegals would be a far better idea.
@@LindaMcDonald-i7u could explain why they all seem to get very generous pensions. Hush money for life?
@@nikkip338580% of YOUR council tax goes THEIR pension pot....😢
If a farmer earns the minim wage at £12 per hour for 37 hours =£444 per week, x 52 = £23,088 per year , Now Show me a farmer that works 37 hours a week !!! More like 70 hours per week, and the vast majority of those hours they are doing bloody hard labour ! You think they well paid and lead a cushy life then think again, think of that farmer who is getting out of bed at 4 oclock in the morning to milk cows, next time you put milk in your tea just think of the effort it took for you to be able to do that ! STARMER - he hasent got a bloody clue, Get him out .
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My son works on a Farm..He works from 7:30 am until 6:00pm (when it's not too busy, and there are enough other staff)...and has four days off..a MONTH
Spot on I worked on a farm when I was 12 during the school holidays and we started at 4am and finished about 10 pm very hard work but it was great but when we left the farmer was still working I would love to see starmer and his lot working the land they wouldn’t last 5 mins
They also depends on the weather and a year like this one, with all the rain, must affect the yield from their crops.....
@@Captainblack710 Well said.👨🌾🚜👏
At least Lee had promotions unlike Rachel Reeves, who had demotions until allegedly beefing up her CV.
REFORM
Only party talking sense is Reform UK, we must get them in ASAP
Definetley the mainstream parties no longer represent Brish people our culture and values
Reform's idea of sense is to sell the NHS to the Americans and stop all state pensions, just so they can cut pensions for the very rich.
Even the bit where Richard Tice laid and said Rachel Reeves wasn't an economist?
@mark1282 she is not an economist, has never been, she lied on her CV, she was in retail banking. if she was she wouldn't of tanked the economy worse than Liz Truss gov, which was actually ousted by globalists via TBE. Rachel is clueless, and put this country back by 20 years with her budget / policy
They need to get they ducks line up now it's looking like they gone get in
What Ballocks !! A farmer was trilled about the tax ?????? Defense cuts !! So what country will the U.K. pay to defend it ?? Starmer's team are completely Out of Their Minds !
Labour are giving 3 billion to Ukraine, so I am guessing Ukraine, but I also remember that our troops will be enlisted into the European Military Forces after talks with Brussels?
Like he suggested A Canabis 🌿 farmer 🚬🤪
Support the farmer wear a Barbour , get rid of star mer wear a Barbour 👍
Yeah but make sure you only wear the Barbour stuff still made in the UK.
If it ain't made in Britain it ain't British!!
British made Barbours may be expensive to buy but they will last you your whole lifetime!
@paulinej2834 not if you go to Bede and get it from the back of the shop. I have bought 5 different styles over the last 25/30 years. They are all still good.
I really enjoyed that interview 😀
I AM A 70 YEAR OLD PENSIONER MY WIFE AND I HAVE WORKED BETWEEN US 100 YEARS NEVER HAD A PENNY OFF THE STATE AND THIS GOVERNMENT HAVE TAKEN OUR WINTER PAYMENT OFF US BAXXXXXS
Oh dear I've lost 1/2 a cup of coffee in Nero's a week.
❤️love and respect to you I’m so sorry that you played the game and they cheated
@@blackantaned I don’t know who you are sir, but for pensioners like yourself and your wife, my father included, when you’ve worked all your lives and paid into the pot for years, I’d say you should all be entitled to free utilities or at a very reduced rate. It’s absolutely disgusting what this government has done to pensioners.
@@keithapps Really?
@@keithapps maybe you’ll need that money when you’re old, you selfish POS.
I love Richard and Jeremy
Brilliant show
Voted Reform wake up Britain!
I‘ve got a small business. Pretty successful 2006 till 2020. Then we had Covid, then ir35, then 25% CT, then NI hike, now we’re on our knees. It’s totally unsustainable.
so true. 😢
It's unforgiveable how you've been treated by out of touch governments..
It's not just farmers,it has a knock on effect, so many depend on farming industry ,lorry drivers. Tractor firms, etc etc. Farming is the last bastion of British industry,so this idiotic policy hopefully will bring the government down
If it doesn't, the millions of tonnes of human waste NOT spread on farm land as fertiliser almost certainly will.
We need an Elon Musk
I really enjoyed the conversation between you two,thank you,and a lot of truths spoken that made a lot of sense pity the government didn’t hear it might give them some sensible ideas to run the country properly
Where's the £300 off our gas and electricity bills which was promised to us by Labour when they got in power
Add it to the Loooong list of Lies.
Not getting that until 2029 😂 by then the bills will have quadrupled thanks to the net zero scam.
It’s gone to Ukraine
Labour are scumbags sign get Starmer out petition
It was a lie, like pretty much everything they say
Rachel got to go she is a lier
They all need to go, not one piece of truth from any of them.
Mr Tice should be prime minister/ he has a full understanding of society as a whole and does not disrespect pensioners and hardworking people and would not treat us as second class citizens. RR re inheritance tax for farmers was a disgrace i have always understood that farmers are not overpaid due to ploughing finance into their business, RR answer was they could repay the money over 10 years and i read if this happens the would have to pay interest on that, even greater burden to their children/so RR has put them in a no win situation . I admired the farmers protest which was held in a respectful way/its a pity that Parliament cannot show them the same respect.
great to see all the farmers out to vocalise the piunishment we are getting from the government
Farm land and the people who farmer it are of national importance and should be defended and supported and not pushed off the land to be replaced by multinational corporations who are experts at avoiding taxes or new towns built by builders who are also experts at tax avoidance.
We are being governed by the Addams family. 🏴🇬🇧
Addams family were actually quite a nice bunch! This shower are absolute vile👿😡😈
The Addams family would be so old that they would have dementia by now.... ah now I understand!
😂😂😂😂I was going to say the flumps
That's an insult to the Adams family
There's only one who need controlling and that is Starmer and Co
I wonder who pulls Rachel thieves strings?
My money's on Blair
Her husband? Head, or similar, of DEFRA?
Richard Tice is spot on as always👍🏻
Why not let them stay in the hotels the pensioners - I think paying for illegal immigrants and giving them free transport is absolutely outrageous when you cannot look after our pensioners?????
And private medical cover!
As a pensioner who is 2.8p over limit for pensions credit and a single person as well who will alsoose my single person discount on CT I wish I could live in a four star hotel with 4 meals a day and be lovely and warm not afraid to put heating on it's disgusting that pensioners have worked all their lives and were getting a bit of help with their heating but a labour government the ones who supposedly care for working class have STOLEN it from us they keep saying yes but the triple lock is giving you 430 a year extra next year so your better off thanks to us LIARS Tories had already made sure triple lock was kept and THEY had no intention of stealing our 200 heating allowance it's only 300 iIF YOUR OVER 80 my cousin who worked from age 14 till he was FORCED to retire due to terminal cancer at 79 has just received THREE letters from DWP first one congratulating him on reaching 80 and now being entitled to a MASSIVE 25p a WEEK increase and increase all 80 year olds get which has never increased in over 20 years wouldn't pay for a pint of milk patronising and totally insulting 2ndetter saying he and his wife wete NOT eligibility for the 300 heating allowance as he was now 80 thats what they lost and 3rd letter letting him knkw government would still be paying him the TEN POUNDS xmas bonus which would be helpful gor fuel bills the 10 pound bonus. began in 1972 and then my parents could buy 2 bags of coal keeping house warm and hot water constantly for almost 2 weeks and they still had enough left to buy some shopping for a few meals that ten pounds TODAY wouldn't pay my energy bill for even 4 days MPs are excellent at giving themselves increases but never think of increasing the so called Xmas bonus or payment for reaching ages of 80 they wouldn't accept same payment for 52 YEARS now Starmer says the 530 increase next year is making us all better off and giving us more than he stole from us I'm no brainbox but my maths tells me his is definitely wrong I lose 200 heating allowance I lose my 25%dickuny on CT equating to over £130 my energy bill INCREASED in oct by 138 my foid shop has gobe up ny £11.45 a week as im o er limit for pensions credit im paying for glasses and dental treTment unlike the illegal immigrants who receive all that free as well i neither smome or drink but i enjoyed a few days at my OAP s club sadly i. Ant afford to attend anymore too embarrassed to admit I can't afford the small amount asked for a dinner in club or buy a raffle ticket so to save my embarrassment I now stay at home with blankets wrapped round me so when I total up how much more I'm paying out BEFORE the 430 increase next year I'm not as Starmer claims financially better off I'm worse off by a few hundred pounds id like EVERY SINGLE MEMBER of PARLIAMENT to live on JUST a state pension not for a week or two but for 6 months during which time they can't access their fat bank accounts for help and see how well they manage on 11k a year instead of the 95k they get for being pathological LIARS to ALL their constituency they appear out of the woodwork every time theyre loooking for votrs promise the sun moon at stars guarantee that they will improve tjings once they vet thekr seat in parliament they show their yrue colours they dont give a ying fuk about them e who elected them oy intetest seems to be in lining their own pockets and freebirs wrte now hearing about ate disgusting and IMOimmoral and illegal it's accepting bribes no matter how they yry and cover it up and LABOUR the party for working vlasses ars WORST of the lot my patents and large extended famy were ALL loyal labour voters. It wentime ALL our friends and their families have sworn to NEVER vote labour again as long as we live never here kier or Stalin Starmer has single handedly DESTROYED LABOUR PARTY PERMANENTLY by his actions and deeds he's anti British and anti elderly ares more about looking after health and safety of illegal immigrants than white indigenous British citizen who have worked and paid into the system for several years and last straw is hearing him SILENCE MPs in Westminster andeaxer of the house silence them as well NEVER in HISTORY has MPs been SILENCED in Westminster and I. believe we have right to know why what's he hiding and who or what is he covering up grab the gear kier maybe a SIR but he is paid by TAXPAYERS to SERVE BRITISH TAXPAYERS NOT to self serve himself and continuously lie to us to protect his favoured sections of society enough is enough we know MPs were silenced re questions re Southport and that labour party are withholding further I formation to pr{tect tge petpetrator of these hideous crimes we know the perpetrator dad has a nasty past in Rwanda and that 2 tier mier was involved in ensuring he was given asylum here in 2003 but wbat else is be hiding that made him silence OUR MPs denied them their paiamentry pri ilge to adk questio s and WHY did leader of tbe housr also SILENCE them whole lot of them need to grkw a pair and DEMAND to know soThey can explain to taxpsyers who employ them WHY fir first time EVER in whole history of parliament were tbey SILENCED stop. Ring such cowards who only care about their wages and give public answers they deserve WE EMPLOY MPs to serve Us NIT to protect a select few and lie and treat us as fools WE ARE NOT STUPID and we DEMAND HONESTY I know labour have problems even spelled honesty or yruth line WHY is reerves still in Westminster she lied on her cv and repeated the lie AFTER beibg fkund out day of budget she AGAIN STATED she was an economist in HSBC when she oy ever dealt with cusyomers complaints was involved for her part for in fraudulent expenses claim and was about to be fired for misconduct due to LYING again stating she wss too ill to attend work when on investigations it was found she wS attending LABOUR PARTY MEETING WHY the hell do we have a chancellor who constantly lirs every time she moves ber lips and why did sleamer of the house NOT pull her up on her KNOWN and PROVEN lies about her job lying on a cv is illegal an offence and is a sacked offense so WHY did free gear kier NOT sack her minute her lies anout cv wete exposed hed have done plenty of shouting if that wS a tory or reform especially roll on may elevtiobs when teform will take every labour seat as even diehats labour voters HATE what starmer had turned tbe party into hez maming GB a dictatorship whete be jails anyobe who DAReS the have an opinion that dkesnt fit with his. A NASTY EVIL and IMO a VERY DANGEROUS 😢MAN TO BE RUNNING GREAT BRITAIN god help us all if he's not thrown out sooner rather than later along with his complete cabinet then just maybe the decent labour MPs will show some backbone and remember who and why LABOUR PARTY were started for it certainly was not for labour MPs to FATTEN their own wallets and put pensioners into poverty or to watch exservicemen sleeping and dying on streets while taxpsyers pay against their will to provide r star hotels fully inclusive plus mobile phones clothes cas free travel and last straw PRIVATE HEALTH CARE Shane on every member of labour party 3 cowardly or to greedy thinking of their paypacjets to stand up for the working classes and rights of the white indigenous British taxpsyers who pay your overpaid salaries we should be allowed to have a vote of no confidence in our government as we wouldn't trust one LIEBOUR MP to put a shilling in the meter it would be kept to help the illegal immigrants he's happy to risk in his own figures 4000 pensioners lives by stealing their heating allowance yet MPs are still claiming THEIR 2500 heating allowance for 2nd homes which is odd as he and theiving reeves are privately rentout out their MAIN homes SCAMMING from the public purse yet AGAIN get the6IUT NIW before they TOTALLY DESTROY what they'veeft of our once great country and where is our king whilst it's happening out talking to his plants or counting the 11million he's grabbing from NHS for a garage to keep ambulances in Great Britain noinger has anything Great about it especially if your British and or elderly 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
They know pensioners won't vote Labour so they don't care.
I can imagine them offering a swap for their private homes. Not joking.
@@joebaird5874 It's coming. They'll be wanting their spare rooms or raising their council tax.
The price of food will go up. Between the cost of producing food and the supermarkets having higher national insurance, it's unavoidable
Can't we cut out the stores and order straight from the farmers.
@@JenniferBartlett-xi3tqwatch "Clarksons Farm" and see how much red tape goes with running a small independent farm shop.
can we all stand and march on number 10 the nation to fight for what is right
I will be there!!!
@@kathleenfederl5121 me too.. Name the day 🙏
I’ve never demonstrated in my life but I would go ✊🏻
Cracking, entertaining interview! Common sense in spades and plain speaking from both. 👏
Pensioners may not one forlabour,but a great deal more younger people won't vote Labour after this
It'll be a long time before Labour get in again after this, if ever
I don't know, something is going on. They've seen themselves tank in the polls, they know their decisions are bad but keep going one after the other, 2 tier off all around the country promising god knows what but they don't seem to care and talk about a longer term.
Go for it Richard, Nigel & Co. There are millions of people behind you.
We need a proper constitution like the Americans have; there's too many traitors in Westminster now, we can't trust them to uphold our rights.
ECHR was the nearest thing we had, but for some reason everyone on the right hates it.
The most irritating thing is the smug look on Angela Rayners face .
Gobby Rayner
I thought the same for once she had a lovely jacket wonder who bought it
Farmers are far right now 😂
Why is Starmer still getting away with this still.
Just get rid of inheritance tax altogether ..
Bill Gates must be rubbing his hands together in glee.
100%
Why else would he visit starmer after the election?
It will be far right wellington boots 👢 next
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Starmer is a traitor and should be tried as such he's a disgrace to our country 😢 please sign the petition and get these scumbags out
How do you sign
Starmer and his comrades shouldn't ' bite the hand that feeds them'.
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They don't want us fed!
@@marylauder3374exactly
It’s a land grab for their comrades in China. Liebour are hell bent on bringing this country to its knees.
May 1st 2025. Boycott Labour. Not a single vote!
Rachel Thieves 😂😂
Loved the show ❤
Lee Anderson is hilarious. The look on Rachel, from accounts face after his speech, is class. 🤣🤣🤣
Growth was 0.1% last year under the Tories. I'm expecting it to go negative under Labour.
it must already be there if the Government have to steal from the farmers, pensioners and employers, while importing negative equity over the channel.
We'll be in recession by the new year
But the Tories were slowly reducing the last massive debt left by Labour, slowly, but without the changes Labour are inflicting on everyone.
Stand by our farmers! Luke Skywalker was a farmer boy! I love Star Wars and i love farmers!😅👨🌾🚜
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@@suzesinger6762 🏴🇬🇧 Aren't you just made of sugar! 😊🍬
Can't wait for Reform to be in charge, Love you Richard. I also own a Barbour jacket. xx
Can you see anyone in the labour party omitting they went to cosco to buy some cheese and came out with a canoe! The reform party are real people that have worked for a living and in touch with the electorate. Pity our first past the post electoral system hinders progress for them.
Pensioners and farmers will kick labour out in the may elections
Rachel from accounts 😂😂😂 lmfao😂😂😂
It is great to see and hear this debate and seeing the support for farmers and small business
A Barbour jacket is the problem?? This is why the farmers will win
Got mine in the charity shop 😊
Migration costs the most
Please for the love of God , country and sanity get this Government out . Vote Reform at every opportunity ❤
Oh my days, yeah thats right, SCRAP ALL OUR DEFENCES, Putin would love that. What ever next, will this Government F up😮
If they keep this up we will have no military left to defend us.
Absolutely spot on! Starmer couldn't navigate a Tesco meal deal, let alone support farmers, pensioners, or our armed forces. 🚜💂♂🥴 Classic Labour - all talk, no backbone. 🤷♂
I’ve got 4 different Barbour jackets does that mean I’m on an equal par with Hitler???🤣
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Only got 3
I haven't got one, does that make me a leftie?
Ahhh I've a hoggs of Fife 🤣🤣
Practically a nazi! 😂
Most average people are now sitting in the cold, already... This shouldn't be happening to old people.
As I type I am sitting in bed wearing a jumper and scarf with the electric blanket on, it's cheaper than central heating 😂
They want pensioners dead!
Vote for reform put the grate back into Britain
I owned a small bakery business that won national awards. Lockdown killed it, from a valued 160k to 40k in 2 years, I had to sell. I used the money to buy a smallholding, I planned to start a small farming business, and already had the business plan and customers lined up. North Somerset council contacted me out of the blue and changed my land from agriculture to 'leisure & greenbelt', meaning I cannot use it. 2 businesses lost due to terrible government, and I know many, many more people either not working today, or on minimum wage jobs who, at one time were trying or even succeeding in creating business/jobs & wealth! I have never had a satisfactory explanation...
I am now looking at moving to another country...
Vote for reform uk from now to the next general election
Reform is the party that will make this country great again, helping the people of the uk is what they want to do
Brilliant interview
Time for early retirement so i can stop paying income tax and NI to this usefless government who will just waste it.
No one is talking about the road fund licence increases that will be coming in April 2025.
We should be requesting aid from other countries
Homeless on the streets in the snow Illegals in posh hotels ????????
And the windows of the asylum seekers hotels are open all year , all the heat going out because they don’t have to worry about paying the gas electric bills
I don't vote but I'll be voting reform
Lee Anderson is brilliant 😂👏👏👏
We need to be as close to self sufficient as possible in two vital commodities: food and fuel. Reform is by far the best party to achieve that goal, at the moment we are nowhere near it War is just around the corner..
It's not a matter of who, or whom have the common sense ideas about running the country, it's who has the ideas and spine to implement those ideas
REFORM ALL THE WAY ..LET’S GET BRITAIN BACK TO NORMALITY 🩵🏴🇬🇧🏴🩵
Time for change
Regards defense cuts, holiday inn's are not cheap!!!
Im going to get myself a new green jacket too support our farming community.
That's so good, Rachel from accounts!! LMAO!
Angela Raynor a right old chav. Pity someone doesn't pay for her clothes too, and make her look important. God help us with children in charge of our country.
But someone does pay for her clothes but obviously no taste!!
Lord Ali pays for her clothes, she is just can’t wear them well. Sorry Ang 😂
No class and a mouth like a docker.
Fun fact : Angela raynor gets dressed in the dark 😊.
Great comment since please reform help us keep going
Where are all the people who voted for them? They’ve all gone a bit quiet.
There weren't many of them to begin with