I got a Jet SSS strat later on after he reviewed it to complement my other guitar, It's a very good instrument. Would have gone for the HSS one he really liked if I didn't already have a guitar with Humbucker and P90 already.
When I was a teenager 100 years ago (early 80's) I bought an Aria Pro II Bobcat. It sounded great, but I chopped out the bridge pup and put in a Gotoh humbucker. That guitar sounded so good to me except one thing shown here after the 17 minute mark - that spring jangle. You know those spring covers everyone removes from their strats? Well, they hid the bit of foam I added to stop that noise hahaha. It worked. Today I still have that guitar, without the cover back there, but the foam still intact. And although I haven't played it in years (I broke the whammy bridge screw and there are only 2 of them!) I hope to fix it one day. That jangle is easy to hide, although annoying. The guitar you were playing with that problem sounded the best of the three imo. The Tele didn't sound at all like a tele, but it sure had a nice tone when you hit that psychedelic vibe. Definitely useful for that sound. But that weird named one I had high hopes for just because of the name. But it was shite. Sorry to be opinionated because I know 1/3 of guitarists will say I'm wrong on every point. And I'm good with that, as we all should be!
Tell you what, this brings back memories. I used to live in a German town where MSA is located. They used to be called "Musik Schnerr" and it was basically a grubby little music store in Amberg, Bavaria. I went in and I bought my very first guitar there, a Vision Strat style guitar...for about 99 D-Marks then....about 50 EUR nowadays. I kept it until recently and it still did a decent job as a couch guitar with my Roland Microcube. Not a bad guitar at all
I got a second hand Benson guitar about 15 years back. They were kind of the budget offering of the time. It wasn't perfect by any means, but it taught me some stuff about frets and nuts and pickups and in time I got it to play in a way that suited me. I would have been a lot more disappointed if I had paid big money for a big brand guitar which needed a lot of work. But it seems to me that this is normal even with higher end guitars. So it seems that The Beatles may have been right - Money Can't Buy Me Love!
Personally, I wouldn't even try using the whammy bar in a cheapo guitar like this. In my first guitar (cheapo too), I blocked the whammy to fix it and make it keep tuning a bit better. They shouldn't even install them in beginner guitars, in my opinion
They probably install them because it's a selling point that reminds novice players of the "real" thing... But I agree, 95% of the time the tremolos on these super-cheap guitars are totally unusable...
Bit of Advice Elmo please test these cheap guitars using a practice amp like a 30watt marshall for example without pedals as the thing is an expensive amp will make even the worst guitars sound good , so would be interesting to see how they compare through a cheap amp like 9/10 players use at home.
He's not that special; I can make any guitar sound like a POS! 😉😂 Please do not take this comment at face value; just UK humour. That said, I wish I was joking about my superpower though.
Guitars in this price bracket can be great value for money or completely unusable. They are made so quickly, and the people who make them spend so little time on each guitar that you never know if you're going to be lucky or not UNTIL you receive it. I'm always amazed at how anyone can turn a profit by selling them so cheaply.
@aaabbb-py5xd I don't have any first-hand experience, but I know what the components cost to build a guitar, and I'm economically competent. They're exceptional guitars for the price, providing you get one that has a well cut nut and decent fretwork, but at the pace they're building them, they aren't all that way. There's no room (in the profit margin) to be meticulous at their jobs, so it's inevitable that more than the average percentage are sold with manufacturing defects, albeit most are only minor. It's unfortunate, too, because it'll put a beginner off learning to play.
@@castleanthrax1833 So potentially some spiel rivaling the "journalistic" "standards" of CNN/BBC/FOX et al, where entire articles can be written well before any staff is sent out to keep up the appearances. Case in point, I have no doubt that design and manufacturing choices are made for each price point. But sprinkled around this obviously true fact are statements regarding the pace of production, which you're apparently privy to, along with component costs, all with I guess as much credibility I can demand from a RUclips comment. My complaint is that this reeks of the formula of employing the obvious as foundation to support the daydreaming required to reach whatever headline is required. And no, I've no intention of buying this guitar, or any guitar, so guess I'm just here to post a rant lol
@@aaabbb-py5xd Do you have a point hidden somewhere in that "well crafted" comment? I've read it twice, and it just looks like you're flexing your writing prowess.
Hi Elmo, great Job as always. I own the exact same Vision strat and, if I can add something, for me the only highlight of this guitar is the neck, and particularly the 16"some fretboard radius...but then they messed up with the sub-paar medium frets (tho' nicely mounted and dressed). I buyed the guitar as a modding platform...but now I am thinking to sell it and invest money on something else....I mean, it's no crap per se, but not that exciting either....
I BEGGED MSA after hearing the bridge pickup on the Vision to send one to me in the US and I’d gladly pay whatever shipping charges there were (as well as the price of the guitar, of course.) They said they had no way to ship to America. (I…okay..?) Obviously it’s something I just don’t understand. Three times I implored them.
Might not be licensed to ship to the US. I wonder if you could find one by a second hand dealer in Europe or the UK that can ship to the US. Might want to look at Andertons in the UK. They can ship all over the world and they might be able to be a middleman for you.
Hello, I have a spark 40 at home and I don't really like it, I want a new amp. it just sounds cheap, maybe because of the speaker. I tried a few katanas but they sound even worse than spark 40 to me. I saw spark 2 is coming out and looking the sponsored review videos it looks like it sounds way better than spark 40 but I'm sceptical. What are your opinions? Should I get spark 2 or switch so something else? I live in apartment and don't want an ultra expensive and loud tube amp setup I just want something that sounds good to use in apartment and for a bit of recording.
Me throwing away seven guitars cost from 100 to 500 euro. A age thing, no longer fun and no need in fooling people and also no longer fun in fixing them pissy puppys.
I tried it twice, not a realy good advice to do this! Both Fender guitars, and no fun at all, i had to add and change for over than 1300 euro for making it playable! But can have luck! Stay happy! 😁
just bought a fender, flash sale hard tail mustard sonic Stratocaster 165 shipped. I must've got a good one because the quality is excellent. I can't find what's wrong with it for the money.
That was torture my friend. To be honest, I wouldn't buy any of those. Those are guitars that a learner would soon lose interest in. Mainly because of the let down whammies. Tele not too bad I suppose. But there's gotta be better out there for that measly outlay. Cheers Elmo.✨👍🏻
Actually I had/has Vision start guitar with that exactly logo from 1998 till today. The body is plywood and the fret work was awfull. The pickups are waxed which is strange for that low price. The body is now reworked and I put another neck from another Chinese brand called Tension. So this brand is from the early Chineese guitar era manifacturing.
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J&D is quite big brand. Check the Music Store if you don't know yet.
This you-tuber is who you should trust. I got a guitar that he suggested and I don’t feel like changing or buying a new one at all. Just perfect
Which one?
Totally agree!
@@eaqwallbender8269 It was the cort guitars. I bought a few that he suggested. Loved it!
I got a Jet SSS strat later on after he reviewed it to complement my other guitar, It's a very good instrument. Would have gone for the HSS one he really liked if I didn't already have a guitar with Humbucker and P90 already.
Jack & Dany is Musicstore's house brand, like Harley Benton is to Thomann. They are based in Köln.
Aha
I have a vintage-style-ST stratothing that is good. I swaped the pickups with chinese alnico and the guitar is fine.
I like your content, honest and straight forward. It’s also ensuring that you are a real player and know what you’re talking about.
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My cat fears Elmo's whammy bar test.
Was is a Bad Cat amplifier?
When I was a teenager 100 years ago (early 80's) I bought an Aria Pro II Bobcat. It sounded great, but I chopped out the bridge pup and put in a Gotoh humbucker. That guitar sounded so good to me except one thing shown here after the 17 minute mark - that spring jangle. You know those spring covers everyone removes from their strats? Well, they hid the bit of foam I added to stop that noise hahaha. It worked. Today I still have that guitar, without the cover back there, but the foam still intact. And although I haven't played it in years (I broke the whammy bridge screw and there are only 2 of them!) I hope to fix it one day. That jangle is easy to hide, although annoying. The guitar you were playing with that problem sounded the best of the three imo. The Tele didn't sound at all like a tele, but it sure had a nice tone when you hit that psychedelic vibe. Definitely useful for that sound. But that weird named one I had high hopes for just because of the name. But it was shite. Sorry to be opinionated because I know 1/3 of guitarists will say I'm wrong on every point. And I'm good with that, as we all should be!
Tell you what, this brings back memories. I used to live in a German town where MSA is located. They used to be called "Musik Schnerr" and it was basically a grubby little music store in Amberg, Bavaria. I went in and I bought my very first guitar there, a Vision Strat style guitar...for about 99 D-Marks then....about 50 EUR nowadays. I kept it until recently and it still did a decent job as a couch guitar with my Roland Microcube. Not a bad guitar at all
Cool :)
Sometimes it's fun to watch you goof around. You are amazing elmo
I got a second hand Benson guitar about 15 years back. They were kind of the budget offering of the time. It wasn't perfect by any means, but it taught me some stuff about frets and nuts and pickups and in time I got it to play in a way that suited me. I would have been a lot more disappointed if I had paid big money for a big brand guitar which needed a lot of work. But it seems to me that this is normal even with higher end guitars. So it seems that The Beatles may have been right - Money Can't Buy Me Love!
Buy a music man and you'll be I love 😊
Personally, I wouldn't even try using the whammy bar in a cheapo guitar like this. In my first guitar (cheapo too), I blocked the whammy to fix it and make it keep tuning a bit better. They shouldn't even install them in beginner guitars, in my opinion
Indeed
They probably install them because it's a selling point that reminds novice players of the "real" thing...
But I agree, 95% of the time the tremolos on these super-cheap guitars are totally unusable...
Elmo could make a toilet brush sound great!
Thanks! :)
You can call me "This Guy" if my name is tricky to pronounce...
Bit of Advice Elmo please test these cheap guitars using a practice amp like a 30watt marshall for example without pedals as the thing is an expensive amp will make even the worst guitars sound good , so would be interesting to see how they compare through a cheap amp like 9/10 players use at home.
Just proof , that a great player can make even the cheapest POS sound good !
Sound is really made in the amplifier.
@@Leo_ofRedKeep true,nice to have kick ass Marshalls to play thru !!
He made all three sound good.
@@daniellarson3068 It shows that pick-ups and strings actually don't matter.
He's not that special; I can make any guitar sound like a POS! 😉😂
Please do not take this comment at face value; just UK humour.
That said, I wish I was joking about my superpower though.
Guitars in this price bracket can be great value for money or completely unusable. They are made so quickly, and the people who make them spend so little time on each guitar that you never know if you're going to be lucky or not UNTIL you receive it. I'm always amazed at how anyone can turn a profit by selling them so cheaply.
And you know this how? By thinking the obvious or by having worked in similar outfits
@aaabbb-py5xd
I don't have any first-hand experience, but I know what the components cost to build a guitar, and I'm economically competent.
They're exceptional guitars for the price, providing you get one that has a well cut nut and decent fretwork, but at the pace they're building them, they aren't all that way. There's no room (in the profit margin) to be meticulous at their jobs, so it's inevitable that more than the average percentage are sold with manufacturing defects, albeit most are only minor. It's unfortunate, too, because it'll put a beginner off learning to play.
@@castleanthrax1833 So potentially some spiel rivaling the "journalistic" "standards" of CNN/BBC/FOX et al, where entire articles can be written well before any staff is sent out to keep up the appearances. Case in point, I have no doubt that design and manufacturing choices are made for each price point. But sprinkled around this obviously true fact are statements regarding the pace of production, which you're apparently privy to, along with component costs, all with I guess as much credibility I can demand from a RUclips comment. My complaint is that this reeks of the formula of employing the obvious as foundation to support the daydreaming required to reach whatever headline is required. And no, I've no intention of buying this guitar, or any guitar, so guess I'm just here to post a rant lol
@@aaabbb-py5xd
Do you have a point hidden somewhere in that "well crafted" comment? I've read it twice, and it just looks like you're flexing your writing prowess.
@@castleanthrax1833 Holy shit, I guess I am well endowed
That shade of cheese slice yellow on the tele...my eyes 😢
A different pickguard would make it look so much better. Black would be a good start but one could go for a more psychedelic looking one too.
@Vhagn Psychedelic isn't my thing at all but this tele would look 10 x better with a pick guard like that
I haven't been on eBay for over 20 years, I'll stay the course.
Elmo, I've got a CRESCENT stratocaster. It actually sounds great after a professional set-up.
For the first guitar, go to music shop try several guitars that you can buy and go for the one you like the most.
Always try before you buy.
Thanks for sharing. I always appreciate your opinion!!! 🙏✌️❤️😎🎸🎶🎼🎵
My pleasure!
Hahh I brought the same vision strat and scalloped the fretboard ;-)
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Try- Asmuse, Ktaxon, LyxPro, GearIt, other weird names.
Hi Elmo! Looking to buy a new guitar, and wondering if i should go for the ibanez grg 121dx or jet js400. Which one would you pick?
As the 1. commandment of Elmo almighty God of reviews says: Try before you buy!😊
The Vision looks like they took an unauthorized Strat headstock and quickly chopped off the rounded end to avoid the ire of Fender.
Pretty much.
Hi Elmo, great Job as always. I own the exact same Vision strat and, if I can add something, for me the only highlight of this guitar is the neck, and particularly the 16"some fretboard radius...but then they messed up with the sub-paar medium frets (tho' nicely mounted and dressed). I buyed the guitar as a modding platform...but now I am thinking to sell it and invest money on something else....I mean, it's no crap per se, but not that exciting either....
MSA Vision Strat's sell for 63€ (shipping included) on German ebay. They are the cheapest of the cheap and I always wondered how bad they could be.
Snaggletooth headstock? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jet JT 300 might be a good alternative as well ;-)
I BEGGED MSA after hearing the bridge pickup on the Vision to send one to me in the US and I’d gladly pay whatever shipping charges there were (as well as the price of the guitar, of course.) They said they had no way to ship to America. (I…okay..?) Obviously it’s something I just don’t understand. Three times I implored them.
Might not be licensed to ship to the US. I wonder if you could find one by a second hand dealer in Europe or the UK that can ship to the US. Might want to look at Andertons in the UK. They can ship all over the world and they might be able to be a middleman for you.
@@mattsikes919 that might work. Thank you for the advice. 🙂
@@michaelolz no problem 😊
the tele you demoed might not be grounded
Hello,
I have a spark 40 at home and I don't really like it, I want a new amp. it just sounds cheap, maybe because of the speaker. I tried a few katanas but they sound even worse than spark 40 to me. I saw spark 2 is coming out and looking the sponsored review videos it looks like it sounds way better than spark 40 but I'm sceptical. What are your opinions? Should I get spark 2 or switch so something else? I live in apartment and don't want an ultra expensive and loud tube amp setup I just want something that sounds good to use in apartment and for a bit of recording.
Maybe a cheap tube amp like the Harley Benton Tube15. Depends on the style you play.
Me throwing away seven guitars cost from 100 to 500 euro.
A age thing, no longer fun and no need in fooling people and also no longer fun in fixing them pissy puppys.
I tried it twice, not a realy good advice to do this! Both Fender guitars, and no fun at all, i had to add and change for over than 1300 euro for making it playable! But can have luck! Stay happy! 😁
just bought a fender, flash sale hard tail mustard sonic Stratocaster 165 shipped. I must've got a good one because the quality is excellent. I can't find what's wrong with it for the money.
I've started with cheap LP copy, about 10 years ago. Jay Turser for about 250€ new. I could play it, no problem at all.
Jay Turser makes good guitars.
@@Michael-jv2cn sure. But I've just got Jet tele, wayyyyyy better
That was torture my friend.
To be honest, I wouldn't buy any of those.
Those are guitars that a learner would soon lose interest in.
Mainly because of the let down whammies.
Tele not too bad I suppose.
But there's gotta be better out there for that measly outlay.
Cheers Elmo.✨👍🏻
8:01 worst strat tone ever
🤣
Actually I had/has Vision start guitar with that exactly logo from 1998 till today. The body is plywood and the fret work was awfull. The pickups are waxed which is strange for that low price. The body is now reworked and I put another neck from another Chinese brand called Tension. So this brand is from the early Chineese guitar era manifacturing.
None have set necks!
Obviously a case of ......... buy a scratch plate and get a free Tele 😉😆
I just hope you could tune your guitar properly and especially the second string