"Their Relationship Was NARCISSISTIC!" | Tom Bower Reveals David And Victoria Beckham 'Toxicity'
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Biographer Tom Bower joins Kinsey Schofield to analyse the marriages of David & Victoria Beckham, and Prince Harry & Meghan Markle.
Tom Bower looks at the Beckhams' power dynamics and the manipulation of the media to ‘maintain a pristine image’, along with David's fame and Victoria's insecurities.
The pair highlight the importance of managing public image and relationships in the public eye, with a focus on the strategies employed by each couple to maintain their image and avoid harming others.
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Anyone who has a successful marriage understands that it requires a lot of work on both sides. Happily ever after is just a fairytale. Reality is putting in the time and effort to keep the relationship alive and healthy.
True but most people don’t trade on how happy they are. What’s different here is the hypocrisy. They have made a business out of sheer lies
Jimmy Buffett had a song called "Happily Ever Aftter..Every Now and Then."
He reflects on life and how it's full of upstanding downs, and how you have to learn to manage the rough spots, all the ups and downs, and appreciate or just make the most of the good times. If you can do this, then you'll truly be happy. Life is like that, and (I imagine since I've never been married) so is marriage.
Bower is right though, celebrity is fake and contrived. We live in a sad world.
I love David and Victoria they are self made!
So agree😢
For me, there is no comparison - David Beckham is self made. His wife is making her way...
Harry and Meghan? Relying upon Titles! Talent?
Absolutely CRAP. HERE IS A BLIND HATER!
He's a self made BALL KICKER.
YOU'ŔE. WIERD
Victoria has done more than just "making her way. " She was part of a very successful group. But, you're right H & M have nothing.
@@NursePamS What???? You must be blind, deaf and dumb!
TITLES matter to the Royal Family NOT to Harry or Meghan!
After watching the Netflix series, you have to admire Victoria on the number of times, she had to pack up the family and move them from location to location as he moved clubs.
easy to do when you have loads of money though
So do lots of families - armed services for example
Kinsey, your opening question asking if Bower if he was ‘nervous’ writing a book about the Beckhams was extremely strange. Why on EARTH would Tom Bower be nervous writing a book about an ex footballer and ex girl band member? Considering the other people Tom Bower has written books about, I doubt that he could care less what the Beckhams think. And why would anyone be ‘afraid’ of Victoria Beckham?
Right, I thought so too
Nasty hypocrites, greedy for class and respectability
@@rosarioguerrero458they could sue him . 🤔
The main difference between the Beckhams and the Sussexes is talent.
Victoria has no talent.
Also the Beckham’s work
@@kehindeemiabata4032maybe not super talented, but she works hard to get where she is right now!
And an excellent work ethic!
Probably just more underhand
Sounds like a marriage to me 💖
Exactly right, and some of will stay and look the other way, and some won't. I can't deal with a liar or cheater myself!
I have seen interviews with the Director and others who made the documentary, they said both were humble and funny., nothing like Harry and Meghan. If they have find a way of living it is fine, you don’t have to be with each other 24/7. Because of that marrige last.
Tom Bower said the Beckhams they have not harmed anyone, they are not bad people, they avoid taxes well Mr Bower who in their right mind wouldn’t avoid paying tax, most big corporations pay teams of lawyers to find loopholes to avoid pay taxes so why are the Beckhams any different.
Indeed and he has not illegally avoided taxes, he has done what every person with a lot of money does, use legal methods to avoid paying more tax than necessary, which I bet Bower does too.
Bower was just stating a fact, don't you like the truth?
How much tax does Mr vaccine Gates pay? He has doubled his fortunesince he created his foundation, why, because he hardly pays and tax. The rich have teams of lawyers to help them avoid tax. It is said Epstein was an expert is shadow banking and is just one of the reasons he had so many rich and power friends, apart from his other horrible interests.
I am not the least interested in this couple. I am curious about this trend, how unspoken values are said aloud.
As a big fan of David for decades I've had my eyes opened about his behaviour. Can't help but still like him though 😂
What he does in his private life is his own business.
No one, absolutely no one , has a clean sheet.
Jesus Christ was perfect and the nailed him to a cross.
Go figure that one out!
I love the Beckhams they don't go out airing their dirty laundry in public or throwing their family under the bus.❤
Are you a wierd hero worshiper.?
Why do you care?
Get you own LIFE.
EDITH!
David threw Vic under the bus when he cheated.
You obviously don’t remember the affair, they spoke about that everywhere including thr radio
@@melgrant7404 I don't know any details, but, the difference would be -
If she had done - they would be telling a truth
Also, probably already known about due to all the cameras out there
And, I think, that is something big and terrible
She’s not jealous! She’s always posting sexy vids of David
And she was pregnant when he was asked to do the Pepsi ad.. and who wouldn’t feel insecure.. she used to get bullied for her looks..
The vids of david are just part of their PR strategy, don't you understand????
@@samjohns3227 And??
I was in England when the Rebecca Loos scandal came out. She was absolutely into David, and I do believe they had an affair.
The Beckhams are a brand, and there's too much to lose. They will never seperate.
I don't think it's an attack on the Beckhams, just a book about their lives together. In fact, he's complimentary about them in this interview. They obviously crave the media attention and do it very successfully.
David and Victoria both have talent, so they have something that people admire. There's no talent from Harry or Meghan; they are just fame-hungry.
David and Victoria are a very private couple who don’t air their dirty laundry in public. I respect that. Leave them alone
@hanamason3579.. except they just did.
I agree. No one has the right to dissect someone’s private and personal life to this degree. Who the hell are you to poke your nose into such painful details of their relationship and existence?
@@willainerosenau6782 Disagree, they let a film crew in for a glimpse into their lives. It was sweet not scandalous. Tom Bower made money by printing rumours, that David has denied, spread by a woman who was rejected by him. Tom Bower should leave his stories for the gossip magazines where they belong
But they do ! Like other celebrities they control their image but in their case its FALSE..It's called lying to the public for their own ego aggrandizement , setting themselves above others..appearing to be something they are not . Why do we have to put up with these people thrusting their egos on everyone for their own profit and narcissistic desires ?
@@susanbignell7402 People don’t have to put up with them thrusting their egos down everyone’s throat. Shut it down. Don’t watch, if you don’t like it, but jez allow the rest of the public to watch a bit of light entertainment. I don’t think you are giving us enough credit to be able to discern what is fact and what is entertainment. Narcissistic they maybe but I find them entertaining nevertheless.
I respect Tom Bower's he's a very intelligent man. But I just feel this is an attack on The Beckham's, especially Victoria. I'm not what you would call a devoted fan of the Beckham's and I didn't see his Netflix documentary, but this seems like a an attack on her character for being a younger woman experiencing some real human emotions like jealously, insecurity and betrayal.
Kinsey you think she comes across as very intimating! Why?
There are so many famous people that have worked with her over the years. They all say she is a very polite, friendly and respectful to her staff. She's not everyone's cup of tea, but she ain't no JLO or Meghan!
It’s always the woman’s fault
Wake up. UN is evil. SHE'S AN AMBASSADOR. Get a f clue.
Oh my! Looks like the coveted Sir title may be slightly farther out of reach 🤭 If titles are going out I feel Mr and Mrs Middleton deserve it more. They've been so helpful with the Wales.
If H&M had remained a part of their families and had not maligned them they could have been as successful as the Beckham’s.
You’re right and the Beckhams are worth about 800 million not counting his Soccer Franchise and all their properties.
Perhaps but remember that They are both self made which is not true of the Sussex.
No chance. There is some talent present in the Beckhams.
They’re lazy, without any talent and not intelligent at all.
The porky-pie wife could never have succeeded in the BRF. Not with those particular narc functionalities and limitations. And, then there's Sparry. Now without limits, he can indulge his own narc tendencies inspired often by the claw. They say he was born angry.
Harry n Meghan could never because neither is likable !! Whereas Victoria and David are likable! I don’t agree with Tom about his take on Victoria honestly!!
I don't find him reliable. Often, his stories are ones we can't check to see is true. There is never any evidence. He always seems to have an agenda behind his books other than telling the truth.
He claims no men were chasing Victoria and has to try to hard to look sexy. How stupid is that? She is beautiful. Don't tell me no other men want to date her.
I won't be buying his book.
@@LaPetiteBoulin couldn't agree more. Tom Bower just felt like he was bitter about the Beckhams
I don't agree either and M&H will never have the likeability factor that V&D have, because they have proven to be nasty, disrespectful, uncaring, narcissistic people who are so blind to the damage they have done. Yes V&D have had their ups and downs, but they sorted them out and came back together. I don't believe Tom Bower when he makes out there is no love there. I think they really do love each other and they have a very happy, contented family, otherwise it would show through the kids that they aren't happy and they so obviously are.
I do believe he's got some inside info, but he is just putting his spin on things.
Every famous couple or individual have their own dirty laundry, hence it’s mind boggling when people adore these celebrities like god. Despite that, I give the Beckham credit for working hard for what they achieved so far, unlike H&M who gain notoriety by relying on their royal title and by selling out their families!! Despicable!
Never understood the adoration for either one. 🤷🏻♀️
I would like to see a behind-the-scenes documentary of Tom Bower investigating his topics.
I think the major difference between the Harkles and the Beckhams is that David Beckham has charisma and charm, and it’s hard to dislike the guy, even knowing that he hasn’t always been on his best behavior. But at the end of the day, I think he at least comes across as personable and authentic. It’s a talent and charisma that Harry and Meghan totally lack.
And the Beckham's did not lock their kids away from the real world.
And in any photo we only see the back of their poor little heads
The Beckham's have actual TALENT, and have Worked. Where's as The Monte💩 show Dual have neither, expect everything given to them because of the TITLES.
Well done!! You had great questions - AS ALWAYS!! Thank you!! Huge Fan HERE!!!
Tom Bower is very misogynistic in regard to Victoria. He says nothing good about her but fawns over her husbands good looks and talent.
She 's no fool either, to have managed to keep things together through all their ups and downs and having that many kids too.
He's trying to make a comparison between the Beckham's and the Sussex twosome, so Victoria has to be the narcissistic one.
He forgets that Harry is what we used to call a chinless wonder with very little going for him other than birthright, and his wife is a hardscrabble social climber who nabbed a prince.
Victoria is not a double of Harry's wife. Tom's gender bias is blatantly obvious.
Until I watched an interview with Beckham recently all I knew of him were his looks and reputation.
After hearing and watching him I was pretty much gobsmacked and found that the man does not match the appearance.
He's talented at his game but he certainly knows his looks are his asset and no doubt he knows he can have fun with just about any woman he fancies.
I know who I'd choose as the narcissistic partner in the relationship and it isn't the lady.
I'm also extremely tired of authors or others who we are told know all about public figures, pontificating on such person's private lives and making money and building their own "brand" off those public figures.
Whether I like or despise said public figures is irrelevant.
The self described "experts" are really just a new form of parasite living off the efforts of others, not gurus whose every word we should swallow unchallenged.
I'm tempted to strongly suggest that these know it all experts should go and get real jobs where they actually have to sweat for their money like the rest of us lowly peons. 🙄
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They are likely both narcissistic.
What has Victoria done to deserve this! She is very stylish and talented.
A great mother and loyal wife. Leave her alone!
Tom, I have just finished your book. My God what a horrible pair. Brilliantly written, thank you.
Kinsey Schofield U are brilliant, love listening to your shows . keep up the fantastic work . bravo. But please sometimes ask some juicy questions.
I’m not sure why the diss was there for Victoria. I think she is attractive.
What is the deal with swastika in the frame in the background?? I have seen once before, but later it was removed and now it re-emerges...
Thought the same. Similar to the hand of god painting as a spoof?
Originally Sanskrit symbol, stolen by the terrible regime
He's an idiot to leave that up on his wall in this interview. 😮
Tom Bower sounds like a bitter man towards Victoria Beckham.
Wondering what the story is for the swastika photo behind Tom?
I don’t see it.
I mentioned about that one time when he did an interview on the Megyn Kelly Show a few months back about sparry 5 and the liar wife. I suggested he move it out of camera view - guess he didn't see that!! Later I looked into that and saw info on How the Symbolism of the Swastika Was Ruined by the Nazis in an Britannia online article - The earliest known use of the swastika symbol-an equilateral cross with arms bent to the right at 90° angles-was discovered carved on a 15,000-year-old ivory figurine of a bird made from mammoth tusk. The ancient engraving is hypothesized to have been used for fertility and health purposes ... From its earliest conception, the symbol is believed to have been positive and encouraging of life. Then in 1930's through today, the symbolism of the swastika was ruined by the Nazis.
@@Ann-wl8up Thankyou, I wish more people realised how this significant spiritual icon has been bastardised for evil. Apparently, important to Indian religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism. Unforgiveable.🤬
@@AK20741 Agree. I have a curious mind and like to investigate things. I remember hearing about the swastika perversion years back. Being able to research online - well, this is the best aspect of the Internet.
@@Ann-wl8up wow! Great research. Thank you…
Gee.While no dout, they have been through trails and tribulations. They seemed like they had settled and arrived at a peaceful and settled , harmonious family life and as a couple in their Netflix series.
Things aren’t always as they seem.
No one is perfect, their marriage has survived and that is hard in the world they live in. Leave her alone!
I always thought that they had this wonderful relationship. Ya never know what goes on behind closed doors.
how can harry and meghan figure it out --- beckham & victoria were world famous
Very few will want to know the truth of this, they can’t see through the hypocrisy
Great interview, Kinsey.❤❤❤
Has anyone noticed the artwork in the lower right of Tom Bowers background…..
That symbol was stolen by the Nzis. Was originally Sanskrit symbol, with good intentions
Was stolen symbol. Originally a Sanskrit symbol, completely different meaning
Can't believe he would show that😮 idiot
Both Push and Becks have talent...that's also one massive difference.
Where are their children Allegedly I can't believe that the are still giving Harry & Megan any air time Please stop Allegedly
Interesting swastika appearing on a painting in the bottom right hand of the bower frame
Mmmm I thought that too 😮
@@RosemaryOltarzewski Me too!
Yikes.. Just noticed it 😮
Gosh it sounds all very one-sided. Probably very unfair and he's clearly favouring David. I never thought him that good looking.
ITS ALL ABOUT SELF SERVING GREED LIES AND DECEPTIONS
Please, please, can you all take a step back from Harry's behaviour. I'm a survivor of a convert narcissistic marriage. I have many infinite struggles because we have kids, and also, how is it I wasn't enough. I live with ADHD. Many will relate, even if they won't say, and the same people will 100% agree she has him and the whole royal family (his family) totally isolated from each other. WTF? I'm with you and all other influencers and commentators when it comes to HER. If you think Meghan has left a few victims in her wake, Prince Harry is her ultimate victim. I was so happy when they got together. I watched Suits and didn't even know she was mixed race until she married PH. Only when she appeared with ONE person from her family, it was obvious trouble was to come.
Prince Harry is deeply sucked into her power. He has no option but to concede, or he'll have to leave his kids in USA.
Harry is living the only possible life he can. What Meghan wants Meghan gets. Yet, Harry has shown in his eyes he feels the disbelief from with some of her behaviours. He also mirrors her behaviour to survive until he can escape and be her platform - what she wants him to mirror. He will be back. He will need time and support to heal from her impact. Mark my words.
You have a live with a narcissist to understand what Harry has to endure but some of it is also his anger as well
I love Victoria! ❤💌💌💌Leave them both alone. Victoria is a very successful woman in her own right.
Go the Beckhams❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I adore Tom Bower! Well done Kinsey!
Why doesn't Victoria EVER smile. She always looks so mad?
Who cares, it's glossy magazine gossip,
I believe she not like her teeth
I think she’s hungry.
@@dymphnacarroll3627 I imagine she could afford to get them altered if she dislikes them that much.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@karenmariecraig5619
How cares? Why write a book on the Beckham’s? This gossip is not necessary. Unbelievable!!
Is that a swaztika in the background !?!?!?! 😮H&M would have a field day with this.
Victoria should put salt peter in his orange juice!
He makes my skin crawl...the tattoos gross.
That was brilliant
Most people in long term relationships have ups and downs, thank goodness most of those people don't get dissected like this in public for trying to keep such marriage issues private and to work through them. Most of us put on an outward show while we try to work through things. If David avoided some taxes, he didn't break the law, he did what most rich people do, they find ways to minimise their tax liability as no doubt Mr Bower's accountant does.
Victoria's business finally turned the corner this year and David has been paid back all the support he gave.
Is this true. The last I read was that Becks had been propping up her fashion business since the start, some 70+ millions.
@@stewartgreig3272 the rag trade takes a lot to embed in. Its true she has finally been able to pay him back. She said had she known how much and how long it would take she would not have done it.
Believe that and you believe anything...she hasn't paid him back all the money he invested, no way!!!
@@samjohns3227Exactly, minooverdi has made that story up and has zero proof ... Clearly a sticky Vicky fan.
David and Victoria are very respectful to the BRF and their own families of origin which is why H and M will never reach their level of likeability
H$M probably wish they were as successful as the Beckams.
I'm thinking Mr. Bower saw how hugely popular the Beckhams' Netflix documentary was and thought "Oh if I write a book on them I can capitalize on their popularity and make tons of money."
He started writing it the year before the documentary came out.
Utter rubbish, the Beckams make their money by fooling people like yourself.
Exactly… he should be ashamed of himself
You obviously understand nothing about the time it takes to research and write a book. He started writing it well before the documentary and researched it far earlier than that.
Sounds like the RF, public image vs private reality.
Fascinating. I am buying Mr Bower’s book. Can’t wait to read this.
The man is a fossil he probably has dementia and you would believe what he writes.
It sure makes the point that our perhaps sometimes boring , mundane lives have a whole lot less unnecessary work, stress, drama, manipulation, distrust, dishonesty, phoniness, backstabbing etc than those we imagine have the perfect lives. ,
I love the Beckhams it is so wonderful to see a family succeed in a world full of treachery. ❤❤❤
Read the book.
Thank you Tom❤
David Beckham and his wife are simply lovely people, grounded and authentic.
Not! Exactly what Bower's book disproves😂
@@TVStuff10 and how do we know it's a fact? By his own perspective and various sources 😂
@@dionisiacano565 His observations or info from sources, obviously.
@@TVStuff10 so in other words not facts just second hand sources haha
@@dionisiacano565 Must be facts then because Tom Bower does good research.
Don't take them down marriage is hard
Marriage should not be hard when two people are healthy, psychically and mentally. I don’t find marriage hard at all, and it’s been 15 years. Now, if people are narcissists or narcissistic, marriage will be hard. Also, if you eat poorly and feel miserable, marriage will be hard. If you are broke, marriage will be harder.
The upper echelon often had various extramarital relationships. They would come to an arrangement to allow them to maintain the facade of a 'happy family'. The Beckhams have a marriage arrangement which works for them. Their brand has made them wealthy. Each allows the other a certain amount of freedom, as long as discretion is used. I don't have any issue with that. I know of couples who still loved one another, yet at times had brief affairs. Each accepted this as a way of life. They knew they would never get divorced, because they loved each other very much.
Thank you. Great interview…
I’ve read the book ….
It’s an eye opener….
Money sex and power sums up many many celebrities.
This guy, Tom, is so smart. ❤❤❤ I have respect for him and also for Kinsey. If he didn't write his book, the public wouldn't know that they are actually living separately. They should be cancelled for fooling the public.
There have been rumours for ages that it's a marriage in name only in order to continue to rake in millions for brand beckham, I'm glad Tom's highlighted this. The beckhams treat the public like village idiots, gas lighting and manipulating. Personally, I think the beckhams are so overrated.
2:48 why would she say she's just living her best life & we should respect the adultry???? Girl please why is she interviewing cause she doesnt seem qualified ....doesshe feel the same about laAnne Rimes???
I can't believe the media is still giving H&M any air time please STOP give them privacy Allegedly
They haven't harmed anybody? What about the lies they've fed their children and tge Lie those children live - each day???
What lies?
And it's your business? So nasty.
Hahaha love Tom Bower
Old bat has nothing better to do? Leave this couple alone and let them sort their own marriage out...wtf....TRASH
I doubt the Beckams will watch this crap. Maybe the other needy couple will.
I just read the comments for info about the video. There's got to be a better way for the guy to earn a buck. 😂
Is that a swastika in that picture on the right bottom of the screen?
The price of power and fame and 💰💰💰
What could possibly be intimidating about the Peckhams???
I got my copy. Love these two!
They are a talented couple! Leave them alone.
I hope someone starts digging into the private life of Kinsey and Tom for money, see how the like it.
Aw I just love Tom Bower, I wish he would write another book about the Suxxexxes. He has ample material.
Kinsey, have you asked Tom about the swastika photo ?
Interesting. Thank you.
I have lost all respect for the Beckhams. What a life of lies. What an example they are to their kids
Funny how people are discrediting Tom's account of the Beckhams but believe hi book on Mr & Mrs Ragland.
Love Kinsey❤. Mmm odd choice of artwork on Tom's wall.😮
And it looks like their
oldest son has recently married a young woman, who is much like Mommy. Imo. Should be interesting.
Tom Bowers books are brilliant!!
Give me the Beckhams over the Harkles any day.
Still love Becks, hes just so cute and tells a good story, would make a great actor.
Clearly you have not seen him in the King Arthur film with Charlie Hunan...........Becks cannot act but he is easy on the eye.
@@ccurrie9672 well he narrates well and tells stories of his kids ect well, with a sense of humour.
"LIVING HER BEST LIFE AND ALL WE CAN DO IS RESPECT IT?" You know how idiotic and disrespectful that sounds? You better pray your spouse never goes out and lives their best life.....I'm sure you would find that indiscretion hard to respect. Do better K!
I would also "conceal" fractures in my marriage if I were them. It's the perfect case of not washing your dirty linen in public. Dignified. I think it was ugly of Tom to write about it. I never knew he was so nasty - "that was the purpose of the book". That seems to be his modus operandi. I'm glad I don't know him, and I feel sorry for his wife. Someone should write a book about HIM. I can't listen any more...
I think it ugly of the Beckhams to lie so much about their marriage and gas light the public, and their constant greed in chasing millions.
I have never been able to understand the fascination with either the Beckhams or Harry and his unsuitable wife. An ex footballer, and ex girl band member, an ex Prince and an ex cable tv actress. Not an intellect between them. So David Beckham is pro Royalty and stood in a line for hours to pay his respects to the late Queen. So what? So did thousands of others. They didn’t receive praise for standing in line. No matter Beckham does, he will never become knighted. He might get a gong but not the one he wants. Hell will freeze over before Beckham and wife are made Sir and Lady.
why Tom Bower has a nazi symbol on his wall?
Just seen that, that's weird 😳
@@geraldinekelly8447 absolutely unexpected
I don't personally know these people so unfair to comment....other than I've never ever warmed to either Megain or Victoria. Just not my type of people...neither appear genuine
I think this man is just trying to jump on the fact that David and Victoria are so popular . How does he know what goes in their marriage. I am not sure i believe alot of what he is saying
Respect it 🤣🤣
"Intimidating couple." How are they intimidating, lol?? Both have average intelligence, boring personalities, no charisma, and are terrible parents. Intimidation is usually caused by admiration and respect for someone which is definitely not the case with the Beckhams.
Interesting pic in the bottom right corner of Tom Bowers wall.
All marriages are hard work