MI6’s Secret War - WW2 - Spies & Ties 13

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  • Опубликовано: 3 фев 2025

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  • @WorldWarTwo
    @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +82

    We’re working our way through the intelligence services of this war, and as we do so we return to some favorite, terrible events of the early days of the war. Remember the Venlo Incident? It feels like a century ago that Indy covered it… Germany hadn’t even invaded the West. The Nazis and Soviets were in an alliance. It’s very meta; us covering the history of the history the we covered in the timeline when it happened.
    And yet, it’s only three years ago, but boy has a lot happened since, so imagine what it felt like back then! Imagine having to rebuild a whole national intelligence service as the war has already begun… it’s a crazy war, and it just keeps getting crazier!
    Remember to read our code of conduct before you comment: community.timeghost.tv/t/rules-of-conduct/4518

    • @kikibebe6410
      @kikibebe6410 3 года назад

      nice.

    • @oliversherman2414
      @oliversherman2414 3 года назад

      I love your channel keep up the great stuff

    • @Strydr8105
      @Strydr8105 3 года назад

      I am reading the book Winston Churchill the road to victory and shows how dependent Britain was on enigma reports on a daily basis, it is a fantastic look into his mind and the constant workings with the Americans. I'm looking forward to your take on this vital part of the war!

  • @censusgary
    @censusgary 3 года назад +58

    Pro tip: When you go to meet a supposed double agent in what may well be a trap, don’t have a list of all your undercover contacts in your pocket.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +12

      @Gary Cooper André Girard should have told that to André Marsac (the CARTE network)

  • @joelellis7035
    @joelellis7035 3 года назад +28

    "Spooks! Five or Six, I can never tell which! They all went to the same school, and have the same bloody tailor!" - my favorite explanation of British Intelligence.

  • @markroberts9577
    @markroberts9577 3 года назад +49

    I just love this series because really no subject matter is really left uncovered. It helps us the regular person understand the intricacies of what happened then and what probably goes on now

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +8

      @Mark Roberts Thanks for watching, we really appreciate your support while we examine this war. Never forget

  • @TheEvertw
    @TheEvertw 3 года назад +5

    Intelligence played such a big part in WW2, thank you for giving it the attention it deserves!

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +2

      Thanks @TheEvertw, we certainly hope to!

  • @dougjohnson4282
    @dougjohnson4282 3 года назад

    Thanks!

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад

      @Doug Johnson Thank you for watching

  • @kevinramsey417
    @kevinramsey417 3 года назад +45

    I think Churchill's Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare would make a great Spies & Ties episode. Members included writers Ian Fleming, Roald Dahl and horror legend Christopher Lee. So it was bascally The Avengers of its day.

    • @ToddSauve
      @ToddSauve 3 года назад +6

      Ian Fleming was actually an officer in the Royal Navy intelligence service, and helped plan the disaster at Dieppe on August 19, 1942!

    • @ToddSauve
      @ToddSauve 3 года назад +2

      @@BleedingUranium That's exactly what Fleming did!

    • @郑颍
      @郑颍 3 года назад

      Christopher Lee embellished, a polite way of say lied his teeth off, his war service.

    • @1969Risky
      @1969Risky 3 года назад +1

      @@BleedingUranium M either stood for Vice Admiral Sir Miles Messervy as mentioned in Bond novels & the character is based off Rear Admiral John Godfrey, Flemings boss. Other sources quote M as in Mission.

    • @geofftottenperthcoys9944
      @geofftottenperthcoys9944 3 года назад

      @@郑颍 Citation needed

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 3 года назад +2

    Always a delight to see a video of you talking spycraft Astrid. And this one was particularly intriguing. Loved it when you dropped the fact about how Bletchley Park because the center for reading Enigma traffic. Wonderful video.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад

      Thanks @Broken Bridge

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 3 года назад

      @@WorldWarTwo---Your welcome. These side-video's are always a treat in one way or another.

  • @markj.ashwin4830
    @markj.ashwin4830 3 года назад +6

    Astrid, your presentations are always a treat.

  • @gunman47
    @gunman47 3 года назад +68

    8:52 MI5 and MI6 are often the more well known ones, but I never knew there were other "MI"s as well such as MI3, MI10 and MI11. I think I may have been interested in MI10's weapon analysis given the interest I have in weapon history and details...

    • @giorgosmichael9142
      @giorgosmichael9142 3 года назад +8

      Mi7 who was for signal communications

    • @edwardburek1717
      @edwardburek1717 3 года назад +27

      For the completists out there:
      MI1: the Director of Military Intelligence; also Cryptography
      MI2: Russia & Scandinavia office
      MI3: Germany & Eastern Europe office
      MI4: Aerial Reconnaissance (active during WW1 only)
      MI5: Domestic intelligence and security (you probably heard of them...)
      MI6: Foreign intelligence and security (again...)
      MI8: Interception & Interpretation of communications
      MI9: Clandestine Operations - Escape and Evasion
      MI10: Weapons and technical analysis
      MI11: Field Security police
      MI14: German specialists
      MI17: Secratariat of MI departments
      MI19: POW De-briefing unit
      Some of these MI departments were temporary, some were merged with others - and officially, none of them ever existed...

    • @MrSam1er
      @MrSam1er 3 года назад +7

      @@edwardburek1717 But what about MI7, MI12, MI13, MI15, MI16 and MI18 ? I have to know them all !

    • @watcherzero5256
      @watcherzero5256 3 года назад +1

      There was a lot of them set up during WW1, some for quite niche jobs.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directorate_of_Military_Intelligence_(United_Kingdom)

    • @iainbagnall4825
      @iainbagnall4825 3 года назад

      fascinating, I'd always thought it was one of those things like the special air service regiments starting at 21, to give the false impression that there were another 20 regiments of them out there.

  • @fryfrysk
    @fryfrysk 3 года назад +28

    Interesting to know is that dutch Lt.Dirk Klop, who was mortally wounded at the Venlo Incident in 1939 and died later that day at a german hospital , indeed was warned by his collegue Henri Koot , a specialist in cybercode of the central dutch military staff ( GS III ) because Koot found the used cybercode by the german conspirators too simple to trust and he was expecting this to be a german trap.
    Lt. Koot , also a member of GS III, however ignored the warning , because the meeting would take place at cafe Backus on dutch territory, some 50 meters from the german bordercrossing at Venlo.
    The dutch government protested, but never got a answer from the german government other than by german forces crossing the dutch border 6 months later on may 10th 1940.

    • @sonicgoo1121
      @sonicgoo1121 3 года назад +1

      I think you mean cypher, not cyber. ;)

    • @fryfrysk
      @fryfrysk 3 года назад

      @@sonicgoo1121 You're right : thanks

  • @mjs3343
    @mjs3343 3 года назад +2

    Great job Astrid! It's the first time I listened and watched you and you had me glued to your every word to the end. You have a great style and formal attire. Keep up the good work!

  • @MsJetplane14
    @MsJetplane14 3 года назад +2

    Very well done! There needs to be more videos like this about The Resistence. As a WWII reenactor myself who leads a unit of Resistance fighters in our WWII Reenactment Group in the US, I very much enjoy this video. The Resistance was a amazing group that helped changed the course of WWII. I admire them so much for their sacrifice so thank you for making videos like this about them.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +2

      Thank you!

    • @MsJetplane14
      @MsJetplane14 3 года назад +1

      @@WorldWarTwo Thank you for responding! Will there be more videos about The Resistance soon? 😉

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +1

      @MsJetplane14 The resistance movements may need an incentivizing action to spur them to action. Maybe the full occupation of France might have such an effect? We'll have to wait and see!

    • @MsJetplane14
      @MsJetplane14 3 года назад

      @@WorldWarTwo That would be perfect!😉 Have you heard about Nancy Wake, the infamous White Mouse of the The French Resistance? She would be perfect for the segment. In my reenactment community, I am nicknamed 'Mouse' after her, lol.

  • @davidstein7113
    @davidstein7113 3 года назад +8

    What a great addition to the series...as always thank you for these wonderful productions

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +4

      We thank you for being the best audience!

  • @andrewbellavie795
    @andrewbellavie795 3 года назад +3

    Brilliant lecture, the history of espionage is endlessly fascinating

  • @arnpaze600
    @arnpaze600 3 года назад +23

    Absolutely adored this episode! My humble gratitude to Astrid and all the time ghost Team for your valuable contributions to the Second World War conscience that is still and always be a relevant and ever effecting period of humanity's existence on this planet.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +2

      @Arın Zepa Thank you for the kind and humbling words. We really have an amazing audience in you, the TimeGhost Army who supports and cares for the work we do. Never forget

  • @exeggcutertimur6091
    @exeggcutertimur6091 3 года назад +30

    I love the story of posing as a hobo so the SS would leave him alone. Hiding in plain sight. And, like today, such people are often actively avoided so as not to think about such things. Genuinely brilliant.

    • @Shauma_llama
      @Shauma_llama 3 года назад +12

      Undercover cops still do that today too.

    • @fakshen1973
      @fakshen1973 3 года назад +1

      Think about it, the best landing sites are the areas the Germans are uninterested patroling or stationing forces in. A beggar in an area with no strategic value... who would care?

    • @SaintlyAussie
      @SaintlyAussie 2 года назад +1

      I always wear my old work clothes when going shopping- salespeople always leave me alone.

  • @Pow3llMorgan
    @Pow3llMorgan 3 года назад +1

    This is some of the best content this website has to offer.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +1

      @Povl Besser Thanks for watching, we have the best audience on this website too

  • @GeneralSmitty91
    @GeneralSmitty91 3 года назад +4

    When you hear all these wild stories from the Golden Age of Intelligence, you really get a sense of how inspired Fleming was to write the Bond novels.

  • @chuckvt5196
    @chuckvt5196 3 года назад +2

    As always, Astrid gives us riveting history! Thank you!

  • @rashkavar
    @rashkavar 3 года назад +6

    It's interesting to note that while MI5 andMI6 are big names that go on to be a big thing postwar, during WWII there are actually multiple Military Intelligence groups in the British Intelligence community. The biggest number I've come across is MI19, which operated a thoroughly bugged officer's POW camp out of a manor house called Trent Park. Gave them all sorts of interesting insight to the mindset of German officers....and was buried for a long time because the bugging system they used was state of the art and still useful in the aftermath of the war...if it was kept secret.
    Some student working on a dissertation on some U-Boat captain apparently unearthed it from the British Archives by doing a broad search on that captain's name to see if there was any other reference material out there, and got back several hundred pages of transcripts of his conversations at Trent Park with other POWs. (It got declassified in one of those big batch declassifications that happens 60 years later or something, and since nobody knew to look for it, it just wound up lost in the archives until someone ran the right search.)

    • @haeuptlingaberja4927
      @haeuptlingaberja4927 3 года назад +2

      Sounds like you're referring to the work of wunderkind historian Sönke Neitzel's Tapping Hitler’s Generals: Transcripts of Secret Conversations, 1942-45 (2007), and then with Harald Welzer in Soldaten: On Fighting, Killing and Dying ( 2013), both of which made serious waves in historical circles, not least for completely dismantling the whole "clean Wehrmacht" myth.

    • @rashkavar
      @rashkavar 3 года назад

      @@haeuptlingaberja4927 If so, then indirectly. I'm more of a hobbyist historian, so my go-to source for history is more documentary and encyclopedic summaries rather than academic papers.
      I'm referring to a documentary that was called "Secrets of the Dead: Bugging Hitler's Soldiers" (according to google, I only remembered the latter half of the title) and the main reason I remember it is because it was one of the handful of TV documentaries I've seen in my adult life where the entire content of the show was new to me (aside from things on the level of "Britain had German POWs in WWII"). Documentaries like that are rare in the realm of television.
      The documentary probably did give the name of the person who dug up those transcripts, but I am very bad at remembering names. Given you're familiar enough with those works to recognize what I was referring to, it's probably not in depth enough to teach you anything new. Unless you're interested in doing a meta-study on the quality of WWII history documentaries.

    • @stephenn1056
      @stephenn1056 3 года назад

      ...so you're saying Hogan's heros had a sliver of truth

    • @rashkavar
      @rashkavar 3 года назад

      @@stephenn1056 I mean....the tiniest sliver? There was a British intelligence operation involving a POW camp. But it was a British POW camp and it was the guards who were literally all spies instead of the prisoners, so it's kinda the opposite.

    • @haeuptlingaberja4927
      @haeuptlingaberja4927 3 года назад +1

      @@rashkavar
      Quick answer, then, is probably, yeah, it was Neitzel. I don't know how soon after the Trent House transcripts were declassified that Neitzel accessed them, but the impression I have is that he found that no one had been much interested for years. Thing is that Neitzel writes popular books of history--the arguments and contentions of which are peer reviewed and endlessly argued over--not just the dry, academic papers he normally presents on his research.
      These books, and there are thousands, by a great many brilliant historians, are far more accessible and enjoyable than you seem to suggest. It's wallowing in shallow, video-driven "history" that is both boring and futile, not the many awesome books that are out there.

  • @Penekamp11
    @Penekamp11 3 года назад +4

    Loved the segment as well as Astrid’s presentation.

  • @edwardburek1717
    @edwardburek1717 3 года назад +2

    Fantastic presentation Astrid, and well done to Sparty for his French pronunciation.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад

      @Edward Burek Thanks for the kind words :)

  • @bobcosmic
    @bobcosmic 3 года назад +3

    This is going to be very informative !

  • @vasilerogojan4520
    @vasilerogojan4520 3 года назад +2

    I enjoy every time Astrid presents "Spies & Ties".

  • @hebl47
    @hebl47 3 года назад +4

    I like to imagine that in an alternate universe, Astrid shouts "Excelsior!" at the end of each episode and Indy calls us darlings.

  • @loetzcollector466
    @loetzcollector466 3 года назад +12

    Thank you Astrid. You taught me many things I've never known before and you look as beautiful as the two de Lempickas behind you.

  • @sdbentrup
    @sdbentrup 3 года назад +5

    A book recommendation on MI6 and the Alliance network is "Madame Fourcade's Secret War" by Lynne Olson. Also "Double Cross" by Ben Macintyre is a good read as well. A bio special on Marie-Madeleine Fourcade would be awesome!

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +1

      @Scott Bentrup Thanks for the recommendations!

    • @astriddeinhard433
      @astriddeinhard433 2 года назад

      thank you for the input about Marie Madeleine Fourcade - I will check

    • @astriddeinhard433
      @astriddeinhard433 2 года назад +1

      actually we just agreed to do a special on her :))

  • @alancranford3398
    @alancranford3398 3 года назад +7

    Actually, MI6 was fortunate to be lacking "stay behinds" in France because of the capture of two key British agents. They would have revealed the existence of that stay-behind network and probably revealed enough key personnel to the Germans to have destroyed that network. As it was, the MI6 assets were compromised. Rebuilding the network from scratch was necessary.
    That Venlo Incident is one reason why the 20 July 1944 plot got no help from the Allies--except for stealing explosives air-dropped for anti-German guerrillas in France.

  • @IainHC1
    @IainHC1 3 года назад

    I think you are brilliant!!! I could listen to you all day!! 🙂

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +1

      @abetterangle Thanks for watching!

  • @dentoncrimescene
    @dentoncrimescene 3 года назад +1

    You've gotten very good at these. Have a like.

  • @JasonSputnik
    @JasonSputnik 3 года назад

    I love "Spies and ties" series, seriously 👏🏼

  • @liberatordude1988
    @liberatordude1988 3 года назад +1

    Signing stuff with an initial (i.e. “C” standing for “chief”) - might that be where Ian Fleming got the idea for Q (“ Quartermaster”) and “M” (“Missions”) in the James Bond series?

  • @giorgosmichael9142
    @giorgosmichael9142 3 года назад +3

    I can't wait to hear about the contributions of Major Boothroyd to MI6

  • @Zebred2001
    @Zebred2001 3 года назад +4

    Allied agents and Resistance members ... you are also remembered with admiration and appreciation!

  • @chrictonj9503
    @chrictonj9503 3 года назад +1

    Great info and a nicely more subdued delivery. It's all fitting the gravity of espionage.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад

      @chricton J Thanks for watching, stay tuned

  • @naveenraj2008eee
    @naveenraj2008eee 3 года назад +2

    Hi astrid
    Been waiting for your series..
    Learned a lot..
    MI6 aleays interested me...
    Thanks..

  • @ToddSauve
    @ToddSauve 3 года назад +7

    Very well done Astrid! I see that Indy surrendered his latest tie to you. I've been casting a covetous eye on it all the way from Calgary! It just appeals to me for some reason. Anyway, make Sparty wear it on an upcoming episode, if he hasn't done so already. It is of such quality that I think you can cycle it through numerous episodes and no one will grow tired of it! 👌💘👍

  • @shawnr771
    @shawnr771 3 года назад

    Well done.
    Thank you for the lesson.
    To all the Hummingbirds may you all RIP.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +1

      @Shawn R Thanks for watching

  • @glencochrane901
    @glencochrane901 3 года назад +2

    Loose lips vanquish Vengeance Rockets. Very interesting story about Peenemunde, never heard that one before.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад

      @Glen Cochrane Thanks for watching

  • @artieart3307
    @artieart3307 2 года назад

    Madame, you are a splendid story teller. While listening to you, I was kept on the edge of my seat.

  • @philipbolton8450
    @philipbolton8450 2 года назад

    Wow, Astrid's delivery was great.

  • @baikhous
    @baikhous 3 года назад +3

    5:05 The Scottish surname Menzies is (unexpectedly) pronounced "Ming-is" for future reference 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💚

    • @astriddeinhard433
      @astriddeinhard433 2 года назад

      I did have a problem with it - you should see the outages :))))

  • @paarsjesteep
    @paarsjesteep 3 года назад +2

    Great history about MI5 and MI6! What were / are MI1, 2, 3 and 4?

  • @welcometonebalia
    @welcometonebalia 3 года назад

    Thank you.

  • @t5ruxlee210
    @t5ruxlee210 3 года назад

    Ah, Venlo. Been waiting a very long time for this. The V1 of course was a Luftwaffe program featuring a pulse jet powered robot flying bomb aircraft with rocket assisted takeoff only.

  • @ariebroek2404
    @ariebroek2404 3 года назад

    What a great way of bringing history🙏👍😊. Much appriciation

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +1

      @arie broek Thanks for watching

  • @DavidHuber63
    @DavidHuber63 3 года назад

    Awesome Thank you!

  • @bronsont7280
    @bronsont7280 3 года назад

    Wonderful! Thank you 😊

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад

      @William Tubb Thank you for watching

  • @Gothicc_senpai
    @Gothicc_senpai 3 года назад

    loving this channel

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +1

      @Gothicc senpai We're very glad you're enjoying it, thanks for watching!

  • @briannicholas2757
    @briannicholas2757 3 года назад +1

    I have missed you "A". I really enjoy your series and your inimitable style of presentation. I figured you were collecting intelligence for the TG Army on a lovely warm beach in the Mediterranean.

  • @rwarren58
    @rwarren58 3 года назад +5

    As always, another great episode. Thank you for bringing both sides of a world gone mad. How could Europe breathe?

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад

      @rwarren58 We appreciate you exploring with us as we go through this terrible war. Never forget

  • @oneshotme
    @oneshotme 3 года назад

    Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

  • @bardigan1
    @bardigan1 3 года назад

    That was great, thanks!

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад

      @mike shivers Thanks for watching!

  • @aaronjones8905
    @aaronjones8905 3 года назад +14

    Could we get an overview of what parts of society were likely to participate in the Resistance? Was there a religious cadre? Was it high society, low society, etc? We see individual acts of resistance in many stories such as the hiding of Anne Frank, but how common were these actions? Were they coordinated at all like the Underground Railroad? I realize some of these questions have been answered as part of past videos - I watch everything you put out - but I would be interested in a concrete accounting of what the Resistance was and was not.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +8

      @Aaron Jones Still quite early in the war in terms of organized resistance, but let's see if there are any interesting developments in 1943…

  • @vasilerogojan4520
    @vasilerogojan4520 3 года назад +3

    An unexpected ending of this video should be one in which Astrid says "I will see you next time" and then quickly "Excelsior".

  • @expansivegymnast1020
    @expansivegymnast1020 3 года назад +1

    I love this series!

  • @gervankempen8721
    @gervankempen8721 2 года назад

    Compliments to your way of storytelling, some history teacher could learn from you and i wish i had a history teacher that told the story like you.
    Being born Venlo and growing up there i only heard recently (couple of years ago) little is known about the entire inciden. also the airfield Fliegerhorst where some of the Messerschmit jetfighters where stationt and took of ..👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @lukeskywalker3329
    @lukeskywalker3329 3 года назад

    Charmingly told Astrid .

  • @lordshipmayhem
    @lordshipmayhem 3 года назад +8

    One of the spy tales that I think this channel's followers might find both amusing and enlightening is the tale of Camp X in Whitby, Ontario, on the shores of Lake Ontario. (The former Officers' Mess is, today, a regional distribution warehouse for the Liquor Control Board of Ontario, which members of said mess back in World War 2 found hilariously suitable.)

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 3 года назад +1

      A couple of years ago there was a Netflix documentary series called Camp X.
      It was worth the watch.

  • @MrRid123
    @MrRid123 2 года назад

    I would really love to see Astrid's coverage of Enigma's technical details!

    • @clarencegreen3071
      @clarencegreen3071 2 года назад

      On RUclips, search for "jared owen enigma" for an excellent 3D model of an Enigma machine. It is fully detailed; a masterpiece of graphic art.

  • @michaelmoran3946
    @michaelmoran3946 3 года назад

    Always a treat when Astrid pops up on RUclips hosting Spies and Ties. She could make even Cricket sound interesting.

  • @keithplymale2374
    @keithplymale2374 3 года назад +1

    Have to take one point with saying MI6 did not have any stay behind in France ready for France to fall. The swiftness of that campaign was as great a shock and surprise to the British and American governments as Pearl Harbor was a year and a half later or 9/11 was 20 years ago. The actions of the US government, Lend Lease, Two Ocean Navy, peace time Draft, all happened after the shock of the fall of France was processed.
    Love the series. Thank you for the work you are doing.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +1

      @Keith Plymale Thanks for the thoughtful comment and thanks for watching, stay tuned!

  • @Strydr8105
    @Strydr8105 3 года назад +1

    Can you please tell us how, Bletchly park did not know about the German armies in the Market Garden mission? Was it an intelligence failure? Thank you, these series are riveting!

    • @chrisvowell2890
      @chrisvowell2890 3 года назад +1

      British Intelligence did know and had photographs from the Dutch Resistance to prove it, but 'Boy' Browning, the general in charge of the operation, chose to ignore it!

  • @vasilerogojan4520
    @vasilerogojan4520 3 года назад +2

    I wonder what will be the next Intelligence Agencies Astrid will cover next.

  • @TrickiVicBB71
    @TrickiVicBB71 3 года назад +1

    I've heard of the other MI organizations before on Jabzy's channel

  • @КонстантинИванов-д1д

    the wigs are a good balance of absurd and funny :)

  • @vespasian606
    @vespasian606 3 года назад

    Depending on how far you want to go back we have always had an intelligence operation. The earliest of note might be the post reformation period when agent provocateurs were used to flush out perceived traitors. That is why I used the word operation rather than network. I would say the rise of organised intelligence gathering that could be described as a network had many roots. From the growing empire that brought us into closer contact with our rivals to the need to monitor the Fenians and the Ochrana. In the case of the latter this would be an early example of counter intelligence. All this points to a periodic evolution that is deliberately decentralized and still has secrets to keep. I'm looking at you Special Branch. That is where you should probably have started.

  • @tomwhyte7047
    @tomwhyte7047 3 года назад +3

    Menzies is pronounced as Mingus in Scotland

  • @guillaumedeschamps1087
    @guillaumedeschamps1087 3 года назад +2

    Sparty really has a good pronunciation for the French agency's name.

  • @salvatorepitea5862
    @salvatorepitea5862 3 года назад

    Nice tie 😁 you could give Indy a run for his money ...lol

  • @padawanmage71
    @padawanmage71 3 года назад +1

    Astrid, you could talk for 4 hours about the Enigma Machine and I would definitely NOT fall asleep 😎

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +1

      @Padawanmage71 Thanks for the kind words, we really appreciate it. And I (intern) agree, I love Astrid's episodes!

  • @odysseusrex5908
    @odysseusrex5908 3 года назад +4

    Did Best and Stevens actually survive the war? Very few people lived even six months at those two camps, much less six years.

  • @rodgerthurston986
    @rodgerthurston986 3 года назад

    Thank u miss astrid

  • @raydavison4288
    @raydavison4288 3 года назад

    Well done, Ma'am!

  • @stanbrekston
    @stanbrekston 3 года назад

    What an elegant Lady! & i absolutely loved your presentation. in the future, (if you had not already done so), you must absolutely do a video on, 'Die Rote Kapelle', (The Red Orchestra), which was an anti-nazi underground, that was losely connected between cities in Western Europe. again, a first rate presentation by Astrid.

    • @reginabillotti
      @reginabillotti 3 года назад

      already done: ruclips.net/video/qqbGD8WYeIE/видео.html

  • @vasilerogojan4520
    @vasilerogojan4520 3 года назад +5

    To know that the germans will invade Crete and still barely lose, this is an example of failure due to the stubbornness of the man in charge.

  • @todiathink8864
    @todiathink8864 3 года назад

    ❤ Love your work!

  • @midsue
    @midsue 3 года назад

    Great spy video 👍

  • @nivlacyevips
    @nivlacyevips 3 года назад

    I love this episode

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад +1

      @Calvin Spivey Very glad to have you with us, thanks for watching & stay tuned

  • @roger.e.lareau4556
    @roger.e.lareau4556 3 года назад

    Astrid ,Astrid.
    What can I say 🤷.
    Seeing one your videos
    makes my day.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад

      @Roger. E. Lareau Thank you! Seeing wonderful comments makes our day!

  • @CanadianNavyVeteran
    @CanadianNavyVeteran 3 года назад

    Tack så mycket

  • @manofsteel7052
    @manofsteel7052 3 года назад

    This reminds me of Private Snafu, when he gets drunk in the bar and tells all of his secrets to this girl who is actually a german spy

  • @rodgerthurston986
    @rodgerthurston986 3 года назад

    Plz continue

  • @blackhathacker82
    @blackhathacker82 3 года назад

    Well known fact that secret services are characterized by their attraction to the information

  • @dtaylor10chuckufarle
    @dtaylor10chuckufarle 3 года назад +1

    Astrid called me "darling", so I've got that going for me... which is nice.

  • @vasilerogojan4520
    @vasilerogojan4520 3 года назад +1

    This war in an oversimplified way is like: first 3 years apparently an Axis victory, the last 3 ones an easy Allied one.

  • @keithrosenberg5486
    @keithrosenberg5486 3 года назад +2

    You ought to mention, or even an episode, on R.V. Jones. He was responsible for interpreting scientific information from the Reich.

  • @rodgerthurston986
    @rodgerthurston986 3 года назад

    Love you all for the truth

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад

      @Rodger Thurston Thanks for watching

  • @mikaelcrews7232
    @mikaelcrews7232 3 года назад

    Love 💕 the modern tie, it goes great with your suit!! Indy needs up do his wardrobe from you, it's kinda gone down hill do keep your outfits locked up!? Love the episodes as always 💕

  • @georgeroach7499
    @georgeroach7499 3 года назад

    Hallo from Cobourg Ontario

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад

      @George Roach Thanks for watching 🇨🇦

  • @davidboysel4509
    @davidboysel4509 3 года назад

    Thank you Astrid I had remove my previous comment it may have been inappropriate

  • @klepetar
    @klepetar 3 года назад

    did anyone get the "Kaiser Bill" reference?

  • @kchishol1970
    @kchishol1970 3 года назад

    What role is William Stephenson (Code Name: Intrepid) doing during this? I thought he was Churchill 's Spymaster.

    • @astriddeinhard433
      @astriddeinhard433 2 года назад

      I can't find too much about him - do you have a hint?

    • @kchishol1970
      @kchishol1970 2 года назад

      @@astriddeinhard433 There is a lengthy Wikipedia article on him with numerous supporting sources like the book, "A Man called Intrepid."

    • @astriddeinhard433
      @astriddeinhard433 2 года назад

      @@kchishol1970 thanks :) - on Germany it was very short on wikipedia - ill check thanks

  • @gilbertjones9157
    @gilbertjones9157 3 года назад

    Interesting C for Chief. What of M and Q? Is it that they gave up their names and got Letters or Numbers, not names taken away?

  • @Soundbrigade
    @Soundbrigade 3 года назад +1

    Oh, MI5 is for real. I thought is was made up for a fascinating TV series about mr Foyle and his war …. 🤦
    (Actually I didn’t think that.)

  • @elveheim
    @elveheim 3 года назад

    Great

  • @mikemc7704
    @mikemc7704 3 года назад +1

    RUclips unsupscibed me to this channel and un rang the bell. I just wanted let everyone know. I signed back up.

  • @huntergray3985
    @huntergray3985 3 года назад +4

    Menzies is (and was) pronounced "MING-iss."

    • @chrisvowell2890
      @chrisvowell2890 3 года назад +2

      I was going to make the same correction. It's one of the many idiosincracies of Great Britain that are unfathomable to non-British speakers. For instance, the surname Chalmondley is pronounced Chumley!

    • @Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry
      @Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry 3 года назад

      And St.John is pronounced "sin-jin".

  • @roniberahaquartet477
    @roniberahaquartet477 3 года назад

    Can you do story about Dušan Popov

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  3 года назад

      @Istanbul night it's not in our plans for the immediate future but Popov has a fair bit of his war-time career still to go so he will probably get the spotlight at some point