Why Kevin Costner’s ‘Horizon’ Is a Must-Watch for Every American | Ep 732

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
  • “Horizon: An American Saga-Chapter 1” is an epic Western that fills the movie screen for three hours, and Jason Whitlock sat through the entire film. That may be the greatest endorsement of a movie ever. Whitlock makes his case for why every American should see the latest work by Kevin Costner.
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Комментарии • 329

  • @georgeralph8031
    @georgeralph8031 10 дней назад +22

    Why are people capping on the 3 hour movie length, when they went and saw Oppenheimer and never complained?...

  • @kenyongray2615
    @kenyongray2615 10 дней назад +46

    Some people don't like Westerns and some like me will watch anything to do with Westerns be it a TV show or movie. God bless Jason, Kevin and Shemeka.

    • @tucsonbandit
      @tucsonbandit 10 дней назад +5

      i really want to see this movie, can't wait. I love westerns, and the cinematography in this one looks amazing.

    • @leramfreeman2950
      @leramfreeman2950 10 дней назад +5

      Westerns are awesome! Check out Old Henry!

    • @trhansen3244
      @trhansen3244 9 дней назад

      I enjoy westerns but only ones where there is no violence.

    • @leramfreeman2950
      @leramfreeman2950 9 дней назад +5

      @@trhansen3244 WHAT!? Maybe you like Little House on the Prairie.

    • @annebenn353
      @annebenn353 9 дней назад

      ​@@tucsonbanditGo its amazing. ❤❤❤❤

  • @veritasunleashed
    @veritasunleashed 10 дней назад +33

    Jason is absolutely correct. It was an amazing movie that needs to be seen in theaters. 💪

    • @johnny5735
      @johnny5735 10 дней назад

      It's too busy of a movie for the theater .

    • @tiphainec5055
      @tiphainec5055 10 дней назад +3

      ​@@johnny5735 What does that even mean ? Thanks god it's in Theatre and not on TV streaming or whatever

    • @johnny5735
      @johnny5735 10 дней назад +1

      @tiphainec5055 The movie is all over the place, introducing different storylines and different characters, and it becomes hard to follow.

    • @veritasunleashed
      @veritasunleashed 9 дней назад +1

      @@johnny5735 The average goldfish brain NPC may have trouble following multiple plot threads but I did not.

    • @johnny5735
      @johnny5735 9 дней назад +1

      @veritasunleashed OK, tough guy, I'm extremely happy for you!

  • @gqrob28
    @gqrob28 10 дней назад +24

    Open Range is my favorite. I will see Horizon and hope it is just as good.

    • @JH-rk9gd
      @JH-rk9gd 10 дней назад +2

      Open Range gun fight was great but 2nd to most Clint Eastwood movies

    • @bboyscam9727
      @bboyscam9727 10 дней назад +2

      Don’t waste your money. It’s awful.

    • @annebenn353
      @annebenn353 9 дней назад

      ​@@bboyscam9727Rubbish best movie need to use your brains.❤❤❤❤

    • @codyc9784
      @codyc9784 8 дней назад

      @@bboyscam9727Everyone has an opinion! You didn’t like it, well a lot Did!

    • @JohnMinehan-lx9ts
      @JohnMinehan-lx9ts 4 дня назад

      Great movie, but i there any demand for it?

  • @nathanwolfshohl8377
    @nathanwolfshohl8377 10 дней назад +9

    Jason....you are way ahead of the pack brother....you always say it just right

  • @AWordonWesterns
    @AWordonWesterns 10 дней назад +6

    Thanks for your push and shout out for westerns. I’m going for a second time this afternoon. Younger people don’t know what a western is! Ride hard, Dude, and stay in the saddle.

    • @tiphainec5055
      @tiphainec5055 10 дней назад +1

      Haha well done , I'll go watch it a second time too , I loved it that much !

  • @kimihuff7645
    @kimihuff7645 10 дней назад +14

    Can't wait to see it."Lonesome Dove" is my all-time favorite.

    • @SouthernGreyShark
      @SouthernGreyShark 8 дней назад

      Yes and there was no "action" for most of the first part. Still awesome. 😎

  • @janetc4306
    @janetc4306 10 дней назад +9

    I live in the country on a horse farm. The older I get, the weaker I get, and the harder it is to take care of my place. Lol I love living here though so I keep at it.

  • @blight6aify
    @blight6aify 11 дней назад +28

    First time Shemika disagreed with Jason

    • @Byron4343
      @Byron4343 10 дней назад

      It ot Royce removed from the show

    • @tjayd1225
      @tjayd1225 10 дней назад +7

      @@Byron4343no it didn’t, Royce running his mouth about private conversations is what caused that

    • @Jake-Drake
      @Jake-Drake 10 дней назад +1

      Not true

    • @efrain926
      @efrain926 10 дней назад

      Second time, they disagree on Chris Brown, Jason hates him, Shameka loves.

    • @albertking1503
      @albertking1503 10 дней назад +2

      Shamika annoying me with every word

  • @lindaapoian7057
    @lindaapoian7057 10 дней назад +5

    ❤I loved this movie. It’s our history with real day survival . The clash of all peoples. . Kevin brings it on. 😊 congratulations Kevin it’s a must see.😊

  • @MichaelPK03
    @MichaelPK03 10 дней назад +12

    Dances with Wolves. Costner directing debut is the best western of all time imo. Masterpiece. Best picture 7 academy awards, beating out Goodfellas. Not even debatable.
    It is credited as a leading influence for the revitalization of the Western genre of filmmaking in Hollywood. In 2007, Dances with Wolves was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".

    • @MitchellL-qq2cr
      @MitchellL-qq2cr 10 дней назад

      Unforgiven is the greatest western followed by Lonesome Dove..

    • @MichaelPK03
      @MichaelPK03 10 дней назад +1

      @@MitchellL-qq2cr love both of them. I really enjoyed 1883 as well.

    • @gbgn1
      @gbgn1 10 дней назад

      @@MitchellL-qq2cr Unforgiven isn't better that "The outlaw Josey Wales" or The Good,The Bad and the Ugly not even close.....

    • @MichaelPK03
      @MichaelPK03 10 дней назад +3

      @@gbgn1Dances with Wolves is a movie that will last through time. Masterpiece. It’s Avatar before Avatar. I honestly thought when I left watching Avatar, congrats Cameron, you made a Sci fi Dances with Wolves. Same story

    • @leramfreeman2950
      @leramfreeman2950 10 дней назад +1

      The man who shot Liberty Valance, Shane, The Searchers.

  • @bajllkisus
    @bajllkisus 10 дней назад +6

    The people who moved west at that time were some of the toughest that ever lived. Virtually nobody I know could make it in that environment today.

  • @adamstokes4445
    @adamstokes4445 10 дней назад +12

    Really want to see this movie

  • @JuddK1
    @JuddK1 10 дней назад +14

    Before you listen to any of Jason’s movie reviews, remember he liked Coming to America 2

    • @666atyler666
      @666atyler666 10 дней назад +3

      Nobody is perfect haaa!

    • @KMTBCEAlkebulan
      @KMTBCEAlkebulan 8 дней назад

      😂

    • @Nicolai-ho5bc
      @Nicolai-ho5bc 8 дней назад

      Okaaay am sure you like a movie, which people dont do😂
      What is it with people not understanding that people just have different tastes & preferences in movies/series/music etc.
      Its such a dumb & irrelevant topic people argue about.
      Even movie critics in generel is pointless, because the only movie critic that matters to you, is you.

    • @JuddK1
      @JuddK1 7 дней назад

      @@Nicolai-ho5bc But in this world there is always better and worse. Coming to America 2 was a horrible movie because it was supposed to be a comedy and it wasn't funny, yet Jason liked it.

  • @lifeisgood5794
    @lifeisgood5794 10 дней назад +4

    The Chosen beat out the Disney movie. This is a movie that everyone should watch as well.

  • @connieoliver7369
    @connieoliver7369 7 дней назад +2

    I just saw this movie today. I loved it. Im 71 year old women. Yes, you have to pay attention and listen.
    I went in thinking I wouldn't like it. It's not a turn your brain off movie. I'm looking forward to seeing the next chapter.

  • @DRanonDoctorANON69
    @DRanonDoctorANON69 10 дней назад +3

    Yes, a must view at the theater!!! A superb movie experience! Avoid the haters, Horizon is absolutely epic in every way! Get after it!!!

  • @OverOnTheWildSide
    @OverOnTheWildSide 8 дней назад +3

    Finally a positive review. I loved it too and talked about it in one of my videos.

  • @derekchin6403
    @derekchin6403 10 дней назад +4

    I loved this movie and look forward to the next one(s)!

  • @rafaelavecillas6680
    @rafaelavecillas6680 10 дней назад +5

    Shemika, say it ain’t so!!!! Noooooo, you still my girl. Jason, I’m going to watch it

  • @DRanonDoctorANON69
    @DRanonDoctorANON69 10 дней назад +3

    9.5 is a great score. I'll support that fully!!!

  • @kennethcapps
    @kennethcapps 10 дней назад +3

    It's like when you're in the army in war. The man next to you, is your brother. We were all Americans , and we all wore green.

  • @The_Zilli
    @The_Zilli 10 дней назад +3

    Been looking forward to this movie - looks like an American classic. No wonder the critics and Liberals hate it lol

  • @camera2painting
    @camera2painting 8 дней назад +1

    "I had to concentrate too much on the story." That's not a reason to dislike a movie you hear too often.

  • @tiphainec5055
    @tiphainec5055 10 дней назад +2

    Absolutely loved this movie ! So GLAD to sée some critics enjoying it as well !

  • @NeoNitty
    @NeoNitty 8 дней назад +2

    Westerns I remember growing up the most? Dances With Wolves and Tombstone.

  • @androlibre9661
    @androlibre9661 10 дней назад +4

    I'd love to hear jason talk about "ride with the devil" from 1999. If he never saw it, I wouldnt be surprised because nobody did....but to me its one of the best Westerns ever made

  • @kennethcapps
    @kennethcapps 10 дней назад +6

    Jason, I'm with you.
    By the way you rocking that shirt.

    • @otrnam1
      @otrnam1 10 дней назад

      He’s rocking that shirt? You need an eye exam ASAP.

  • @jamesmoore768
    @jamesmoore768 10 дней назад +4

    If it’s as good as open Range it’s good for sure!

  • @blakelonning7676
    @blakelonning7676 11 дней назад +16

    I'm definitely gonna check this movie out! My two all time favorite westerns are Tombstone and Pale Rider.

  • @BatGiant2005
    @BatGiant2005 8 дней назад +2

    I agree, it was a great movie

  • @EddieHenderson92
    @EddieHenderson92 9 дней назад +3

    Many liberal critics walked in wanting to hate this movie, it's a good movie that goes by pretty fast and I'm looking forward to part 2 next month.

  • @David-ej4cg
    @David-ej4cg 10 дней назад +4

    bone tomahawk was 🔥

  • @victoriaburkhardt9974
    @victoriaburkhardt9974 9 дней назад +4

    I loved it too. Horizon Chapter One is wonderful. I love every minute of it. Three hours flew by.

  • @DRanonDoctorANON69
    @DRanonDoctorANON69 10 дней назад +2

    Horizon Chapter 1 is the most reviewed movie of the year! Why? Because it's epic!!! Go see this work of art!!!

  • @mrgentleman8481
    @mrgentleman8481 10 дней назад +3

    This movie is so good!! It's definitely a vibe, epic visuals🤠✨🎥

  • @wesmcvay6078
    @wesmcvay6078 10 дней назад +3

    She said she has to “focus too much” on westerns. Is she 12?

    • @tiphainec5055
      @tiphainec5055 10 дней назад

      Haha thanks .. what a stupid thing to Say about this movie. So easy tu understand

  • @coyotefever105
    @coyotefever105 10 дней назад +2

    It’s a movie which is flawed given how ambitious it is with the storylines. It nailed how tragic it was for both settlers and Apache in how they treated each other. I’m with Kevin, 7/10. I am looking forward to the next chapters.

    • @daveclark8337
      @daveclark8337 8 дней назад

      That's the problem: Do you want to invest $20 and 3 hours to see a 7/10 movie that's only Part 1 of a Saga that's most likely never going to be finished? I'll wait for home video.

  • @annebenn353
    @annebenn353 9 дней назад +2

    Horizon I loved it. Its a story made of 3 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @JasonVersaggi
    @JasonVersaggi 7 дней назад

    Whit is spot on. I loved it. A classically inspired throwback western from the days of John Ford with a cast of thousands. It's an epic with an epic set up. It's aspirational and not gratuitous. It was bright and not revisionist angst and revived the old western trope of having the setting act almost like a character in itself.

  • @bdisaac1
    @bdisaac1 10 дней назад +7

    Saw it yesterday…so good. Even after 3 hours…didn’t want it to end. Visually stunning too.

  • @nstufflebeam
    @nstufflebeam 9 дней назад +2

    Just watched the movie and was great. Best part was when the shots rang out in the theater. A bit hard to follow here and there. Can't wait for the next one best part is is being filmed right by the house.

  • @paulks2339
    @paulks2339 10 дней назад +5

    Great Western , Outlaw Josey Wales …

    • @gbgn1
      @gbgn1 10 дней назад +1

      Josey Wales Probably the Best of all time right next to The good ,The bad and the ugly

    • @leramfreeman2950
      @leramfreeman2950 10 дней назад

      "Chief, Chief...I was just wondering. I suppose that mangy, red-bone hound ain't got no place to go either. My as well ride along with us, hell everybody else is."

    • @leramfreeman2950
      @leramfreeman2950 10 дней назад +2

      "You a bounty hunter?" A man's gotta make a living somehow. "Dying ain't no living boy."

    • @JH-rk9gd
      @JH-rk9gd 10 дней назад

      Josey was the best, it is Scott Eastwood’s favorite Clint movie

  • @JR-ej9up
    @JR-ej9up 10 дней назад +2

    The movie was Amazing.

  • @michaelweber5702
    @michaelweber5702 10 дней назад +2

    Your friends can't always like what you love ...

  • @jackrandom4893
    @jackrandom4893 10 дней назад +2

    Fantastic video. Great review. I think you will see more Black Americans after the Civil War. Part of the movie is about searching for something better and you can bet that is why everyone is heading to the town of Horizon where they are told it exists.
    I can't wait for the next parts.
    Greetings from Wyoming. You got yourself another subscriber!

  • @Yippity68
    @Yippity68 8 дней назад +1

    Horizon was filmed in UTAH mostly.

  • @richardweddle3408
    @richardweddle3408 5 дней назад

    Bless you, Jason Whitlock.

  • @pamhays4443
    @pamhays4443 10 дней назад +1

    Love your content

  • @waltermartinez5372
    @waltermartinez5372 7 дней назад +1

    Kevin Costner was really good in JFK (1991) director Oliver Stone

  • @rickbennett7985
    @rickbennett7985 6 дней назад

    I agree Jadon. Horizon was a great monie. I love that genre of movie, my wife doesn’t. I thought the 3 hours would drag, but it didn’t, went quick, loved the story lines. My wife loved this movie to. We are looking forward to episold 2

  • @bajllkisus
    @bajllkisus 10 дней назад +1

    I’m super excited about this movie! I heard Joe Rogan is asking to Taylor Sheridan about the book Empire of the Summer Moon. That’s what this movie is all about. The book is unbelievable. So I am thrilled to have legit movies to watch.

  • @t.murray5046
    @t.murray5046 10 дней назад +1

    Yea Jason because you were alive in the 1800s thanks for telling us how reality was back then

  • @LukeLovesRose
    @LukeLovesRose 2 дня назад

    I agree. I am excited to see this movie

  • @mtf347
    @mtf347 10 дней назад +1

    GREAT SHIRT MAN!

  • @standroid6051
    @standroid6051 6 дней назад

    "I need more action" lol

  • @rickharris6342
    @rickharris6342 10 дней назад +1

    Westerns #1
    Karate #2

  • @charles9571
    @charles9571 7 дней назад

    Horizon was great.

  • @patriciaseitz3530
    @patriciaseitz3530 6 дней назад

    So many comments have said something about liberals hating Horizon. I am maybe not a true liberal but am definitely a moderate leaning toward liberalism. I live and admire westerns. One o my most favorite movies of all time is Open Range with Lonesome Dove my favorite tv mini series, and I think Horizon: An American Saga, Chapter1 is poetry in motion, a true classic for the ages. Definitely a thinking man's or woman's western to be treasured.

  • @thedi9438
    @thedi9438 11 дней назад +7

    Jason, first stop should be The Little Big Horn National Battlefield and Cemetery. Second should be the Nez Pearce National Battlefield in Chinook, MT.

  • @ericf.garayua5713
    @ericf.garayua5713 7 дней назад

    If you like westerns like me, you gonna like this movie! Is not perfect; is quite long and I am not very enthusiast about the multiple stories, but still I enjoyed this movie.
    Compared with most of the stuff out there, this movie is pure gold!

  • @dasshape00
    @dasshape00 6 дней назад

    It's good.. and part 2 drops in a month or 2.. and he's filming 3 and plan on 4 of them

  • @crunch9362
    @crunch9362 10 дней назад

    I love westerns. I agree with the 7 out of 10 grade for Horizon. It's definitely not a perfect score like Jason gave it.

  • @Cws7187
    @Cws7187 10 дней назад +1

    The movie is actually filmed in Utah as far as I know

  • @slightlystrombeck
    @slightlystrombeck 10 дней назад +8

    Great American Epic!
    I would have left the theater after 3 hours and went straight to see part 2.
    Amazing!
    🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @tjayd1225
    @tjayd1225 10 дней назад +3

    If it’s anything like hateful 8 I’m definitely gonna check it out

    • @oldmansportsog2514
      @oldmansportsog2514 10 дней назад

      Hateful 8 is best movie made last ten years.
      The fact it pisses off spike lee cuz it says n word to much makes .e like it more

    • @oldmansportsog2514
      @oldmansportsog2514 10 дней назад

      Best part of hateful 8 is how no one lives but at end Mannix and Captain Marquis read the fake lincoln letter and I love how Minny had the no dogs and no Mexicans sign hanging up. That whole movie is so great everyone did their roles great

    • @BB12659
      @BB12659 10 дней назад

      @@oldmansportsog2514 Give me Christian Bales in "Hostiles," whew, now there's a movie for you.

  • @josephvogel684
    @josephvogel684 11 дней назад +1

    Great movie

    • @JohnMack-f3f
      @JohnMack-f3f 11 дней назад

      The word Great is at an all time low. Too much inclusivity.

  • @stefanieschuster3867
    @stefanieschuster3867 День назад

    It's definitely great

  • @jackcolgrove1326
    @jackcolgrove1326 10 дней назад

    I agree its a great rendition of the West and struggles everyone encountered!!!!
    Slow compared to todays action but great anyway!!!

  • @foxmolnar6258
    @foxmolnar6258 10 дней назад

    Girl Scout cookies would be all I'd enjoy from such an experience. I'm with you Shameka

  • @taronyoung5768
    @taronyoung5768 10 дней назад

    I saw the movie. I likes it. It was a 7.5 out of 10 for me. Good and will watch the others.
    Cons: too many stories at one time. Kevin wasn’t on the screen enough.
    Time jumps took me a minute to catch up because of how they did time. Cool way to do it, but lost me a time or two.

  • @gregy1570
    @gregy1570 10 дней назад

    nice shirt JW!

  • @BB12659
    @BB12659 11 дней назад

    Shemeka, please travel to Montana, you'll be able to see Costner's vision. Just returned from Big Sky, and not that I'm a world traveler, I'm not, but that was sheer beauty. I was raised in the city, and fought this vacation, but I fell in love with the state. Onto the movie, I saw it when it was first released, and if you go, please note, you'll have to invest to see this series through. I understand, and have read the reviews, and certainly can see what the journalists are saying that appears negative. Again, if you go, please go not expecting it to wrap up in 3 hours, it doesn't, it keeps going, and that's why I trust 2, 3, & 4 deliver the goods. I'm really hoping for that, so we'll see. In terms of the racism, did you catch the Chinese towards the end of Chapter 1, and how they were treated, Shemeka did. I do agree, the film is a throw back to "1883," you had to be hard to survive.

  • @martinrobbins1207
    @martinrobbins1207 11 дней назад

    Nice shirt, Jason. I want one.

  • @kashanti1
    @kashanti1 10 дней назад +1

    He should’ve went to go see sound of Hope.

  • @JohnMinehan-lx9ts
    @JohnMinehan-lx9ts 4 дня назад

    Great movie (it had to be, making a movie in Monument Valley if your name is not "Jack Ford" is the epitome of "temerity").
    On the other hand, I don't think there is any demand for it, as good as it is.

  • @Bailey2006a
    @Bailey2006a 8 дней назад

    Unfortunately, the film is a huge bomb. Let’s hope streaming will lure more watchers.

  • @keithmadison8754
    @keithmadison8754 10 дней назад +2

    I'm with Jason 100 percent, a classic, cant wait for part two , think Unforgiven.,..

  • @hermanbradley4007
    @hermanbradley4007 10 дней назад

    Loved the reality of the gunfight, no quick draw, Kevin had his gun cocked and at his side....as most folks would have......

  • @JohnMinehan-lx9ts
    @JohnMinehan-lx9ts 4 дня назад

    2LT Gephardt should not have had a Bar in 1862. Also, it was early for so many cartridge conversion pistols and Henry Rifles in 1862.
    The Apache had a material culture not much different that this is 1862. Hell, I was up in Apacharia in 1989 on a Staff Ride at the MI School and they don't have much more now. {Except that they are free,, not on a Reservation and are left alone by the US Army.)

  • @greyphox1991
    @greyphox1991 10 дней назад

    JW is right! WaterWorld, WyattEarp, Revenge, DWW, on and on! Thats what KC has always been about

  • @irelanda8440
    @irelanda8440 8 дней назад

    I'm a big costner fan but didn't think much of this movie.

  • @dasshape00
    @dasshape00 6 дней назад

    I love a good western from late 80s till now... but b4 that... hate them

  • @tucsonbandit
    @tucsonbandit 10 дней назад

    If shemika watched a pirated version, it may have been a cam version, I have not seen an actual HD version on the high seas, although I have not looked hard either, I plan to see this in theaters and I have not gone to the actual movies in years.

  • @JohnMack-f3f
    @JohnMack-f3f 11 дней назад

    You’d be surprised at what people can survive.

  • @lorenarios9461
    @lorenarios9461 10 дней назад

    Jason - why the gigilo theme music?

  • @user-rf9lt1rq9v
    @user-rf9lt1rq9v 10 дней назад +1

    Guy was wearing an Elizabeth Warren shirt non stop. Do better Whitlock

  • @razfilmstv
    @razfilmstv 9 дней назад

    It is a great movie

  • @bajllkisus
    @bajllkisus 10 дней назад

    Jason, I think every man has a deep desire to test himself and see how far he can make it. It is that biblical mandate to want to exercise dominion over God’s world. I just got back from the Alaskan wilderness for a week. Your guest is right. You will see how soft we have all become very quickly. You can’t be out of shape. You have to know what to do. It is not comfortable. Most people wouldn’t make it very long.

  • @liberteysfinest
    @liberteysfinest 10 дней назад

    Hateful 8 was great

  • @joseantonioquintana5140
    @joseantonioquintana5140 10 дней назад +3

    The “Jones plantation” is still king 👑

  • @viking00777777
    @viking00777777 9 дней назад

    Slow start big finish. Fair to good imo. Conager, 1883, and true story of YT video about Mountain man Robert Campbell show realistically what life was like 1820 to later 1800’s , looking forward to the rest. KC all in on Horizon.

  • @BoEmery
    @BoEmery 11 дней назад

    I don't support Hollywierd with my $, but may consider this one

  • @ripdnsrd5695
    @ripdnsrd5695 10 дней назад

    Jason how u feel about project 2025 if u haven’t did your research on it I suggest u look into it ASAP

  • @kialoliver4325
    @kialoliver4325 9 дней назад

    I love westerns and this was painful PAINFUL

  • @coop8849
    @coop8849 10 дней назад

    You're shocked Shameka didn't like this??? Maybe if Kanye did the soundtrack she MIGHT have enjoyed it? 😂😂😂

  • @Pozativ1
    @Pozativ1 5 дней назад

    I LOVE THE HATEFUL 8

  • @mr.1up489
    @mr.1up489 10 дней назад

    Thoughts on Ryan Garcia?

  • @MrTrynot2stay
    @MrTrynot2stay 10 дней назад

    Mann... When you gon Answer Stan Verrett???!!!!

  • @terrancecoard388
    @terrancecoard388 10 дней назад +1

    I don't like spoilers so I just skimmed reviews. I'm really looking forward to a good Western.