Devoicing of vowels in between or after unvoiced consonants | A key to sounding natural! | 母音の無声化

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  • Опубликовано: 23 янв 2025

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  • @lisamariefan
    @lisamariefan Год назад +4

    Tangentially related, but since I had learned that 靴 means shoes recently it's actually really interesting that socks is 靴下, or kinda like "undershoes."
    It's satisfying to have little revelations like that.

  • @flyback_driver
    @flyback_driver Год назад +4

    3:07 ah yes I knew I wasn't going mad. I never hear いただきます pronounced with the "masu" but almost always just "mas" from native speakers. Same withございます. This video gave me a little more confidence to try speaking more outside of reading out loud.

  • @MMMTAL
    @MMMTAL 6 месяцев назад +3

    It's very rare to find someone who talks about these things. Thank you so much

  • @melanietaylor5453
    @melanietaylor5453 3 года назад +13

    Great topic. It's interesting to hear why the vowels are silent between certain sounds. Another great and informative video, sensei!

  • @n20games52
    @n20games52 3 года назад +2

    I could always hear this in Japanese but never had it explained so clearly. ありがとうございます。ビデオはすばらしいでした。:D

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  3 года назад

      I’m glad this video was helpful.
      コメントありがとうございます😊

  • @johnnylee3505
    @johnnylee3505 Год назад +1

    Thanks a lot! I've been trying to look for the answer to this topic for a long long time.

  • @shizuokaBLUES
    @shizuokaBLUES Год назад +1

    Thanks, your short sent me here. This is a great lesson.

  • @japanese2811
    @japanese2811 10 месяцев назад

    What an amazingly useful video, I always wondered about this and finally I understand a bit better. Thank you so much!

  • @victorchen5663
    @victorchen5663 Год назад

    先生、面白い動画を作ってくれてありがとうございました! 日本語の発音って本当に奥深いですね! いろいろな細部がありすますね! 私はもっと頑張りなきゃ!

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  Год назад

      そうなんです、いろいろ細部を見ていくと、発音はおもしろいですよね! がんばってくださいね😊

  • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
    @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  Год назад +3

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    You'll learn about Japanese phonetics, such as pronunciation, rhythm, pitch accent, intonation and so on. Those knowledge will help you sound natural when speaking Japanese.

  • @frederickchung1662
    @frederickchung1662 3 года назад

    本当に素晴らしい講義だと思います!Great Japanese teacher!

  • @mr_yoshidasan
    @mr_yoshidasan 3 года назад +6

    Vi este video de principio a fin. Enorme trabajo y una excelente explicación. Mi pronunciación es realmente mala y debo esforzarme por mejorar primero mi oído. Muchas gracias por este video.

  • @prichitoadiamantadoP3-18
    @prichitoadiamantadoP3-18 2 года назад

    One of the few videos, if not the only one, about this topic. I was looking for it because european portuguese also has an unvoiced vowel. Arigatou

  • @frederickchung1662
    @frederickchung1662 3 года назад

    私は心の底から先生を尊敬しています!
    Thanks a lot!

  • @massvt3821
    @massvt3821 3 года назад +2

    I was the one who mentioned the difference between "Shizuka" and "Suzuki". There is a Japanese RUclipsr named "Shizuka" who pronounces her name without the "U", and this channel is the source for this comparison. ( Good channel, by the way, with a young Japanese woman who spent years living in England, but because of personal tragedy, is now back in Japan. Her English is basically native-level)...

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  3 года назад +2

      I knew it was you but i didn’t mention it, I’m sorry. I have been thinking about “ Shizuka” for a while and I could finally make it into a video. Is it easy for you to tell the difference between the devoiced “u” and the voiced “u”? As for me, it is hard to tell the difference in “u” in Shizuka, so it took me while to make this video. I guess I can tell the difference now…🤔

    • @massvt3821
      @massvt3821 3 года назад +1

      @@SpeakJapaneseNaturally Yes, she basically removes the "U" completely, so it sounds like "Shizka". I wonder if the difference lies in the "ka" in comparison to the "ki", to decide if the "u" is devoiced...

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  3 года назад +2

      Another interesting point...! I don't think the difference lies in the "ka" because when we say "Suzuka," which is a place name, we don't usually devoice "u." So I think it's "u" before "zu" that makes "zu" voiced...

    • @massvt3821
      @massvt3821 3 года назад

      @@SpeakJapaneseNaturally I should have looked up "suzuka" first..lol
      I'd love to see a video about English education in Japan, and your experience with it...

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  3 года назад +3

      Thank you for the suggestion. It's not actually about learning Japanese, so I'm not sure if I will make a video about that, but that sounds interesting, so I'll think about that. It'll again take a while...(I always need time😅)

  • @gramsmith1366
    @gramsmith1366 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for your entertaining and informative presentations. Is there a connection between devoicing and maintaining integrity of mora? Thank you

  • @frederickchung1662
    @frederickchung1662 3 года назад

    大変勉強になりました! 嬉しいです!! Thanks a lot

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  3 года назад

      それを聞いてこちらもうれしいです! コメントありがとうございました〜😊

  • @夢子-t5q
    @夢子-t5q 5 месяцев назад +1

    I thought, Japanese pronunciations are too easy now dying 💀💀

  • @fmg8350
    @fmg8350 3 года назад

    My sensei is back! Sensei ga kaette kimashita! 😊

  • @jasenkaizeljkosikic493
    @jasenkaizeljkosikic493 3 года назад

    Uaaaau, beautiful and so interesting topic of this video. この動画 とてもよかった です。ありがとう。

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  3 года назад

      ありがとうございます!
      そう言っていただけてうれしいです😊

  • @Medivh73
    @Medivh73 2 года назад +1

    I found a way to remember the first 4 unvoiced consinents - just say ku-so-shi-to. Hope you will find it helpful. Have not come up with mnemonics for remaining ones just yet.

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  2 года назад +1

      Well… it doesn’t sound good though…😅
      “ku so “ ta has a bad meaning, so ..

    • @Medivh73
      @Medivh73 2 года назад +1

      @@SpeakJapaneseNaturally I'm sorry, it was just bad joke on my part(it did help me memorize it though).
      すいません先生、失礼しまた。

  • @debwefoxx9389
    @debwefoxx9389 3 года назад +4

    Thank you for this topic. I follow Japanese figure skating and have wanted to understand how to say names well. It is the first place I heard the Japanese language and I fell in love with it. Question: Is it appropriate to write お願いします the first time you write to someone (email or direct message) or is it for physical meetings only? Thank you

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  3 года назад

      お願いします as in よろしくお願いします? Yes, you can write the phrase to someone who you write to for the first time!
      Is there any specific figure skaters that you want to know how to say their names?

  • @jacobcrowley8207
    @jacobcrowley8207 Год назад

    Thank you. Arigato gozaimasu, with an unvoiced ending. 😋

  • @lisamariefan
    @lisamariefan Год назад

    So here's a question regarding devoicing: Are loan words like パスタ or whatever specifically given the ス in the middle to specifically take advantage of devoicing?

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  Год назад +2

      Whether the word is loan word or not doesn't matter. If the sound after す is an unvoiced consonant, like t in タ, then the ス is devoiced.

    • @lisamariefan
      @lisamariefan Год назад

      @@SpeakJapaneseNaturally I mean, is pasta transliterated with ス vs サ/せ/ソ because ス is the only one that actually gets devoiced, making it sound closer to the loan word it's derived from?

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  Год назад +2

      @@lisamariefan I'm not sure whether it's related to devoicing, but as you said, ス is the closest sound for "s" to Japanese people's ears.

  • @johnnylee3505
    @johnnylee3505 Год назад

    Btw, could you make a video on "ta" and "da"; and "ka" and "ga"; as well as "ga" and "nga" when they have sound changes as particles. Thanks. 😊

  • @stephan3077
    @stephan3077 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for your latest video! This reminds me of a question I always wondered about: should the "u" in Asakusa be devoiced or not? 😊🤔. I seem to hear both, also from Japanese native speakers.

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  3 года назад +2

      I’ve been asked this question, and I forgot to include it in the video!! Was it you who wrote the question? I’m sorry!
      Usually, u in Asakusa is devoiced. But devoicing happens only in Standard Japanese, Tokyo dialect, so Japanese people who are from other places might not devoice u.

    • @stephan3077
      @stephan3077 3 года назад +1

      Dear Fumi -sensei, thank you very much for your reply. No, it wasn’t me who asked this question before 😊. But your answer explains it, now I finally know, thank you!

  • @WarapornTahira
    @WarapornTahira 9 месяцев назад

    You take care

  • @NN-rn1oz
    @NN-rn1oz 9 месяцев назад

    I'm Americanu from Ohio (good morning ). For breakfast I eat Furosutadu Furekusudu cereal and for lunch I go to Makudonarudo.

  • @Kha162
    @Kha162 Год назад

    At 9:11, why i hear yorosh KO onegaishimas? (It means you link KU and O become to KO) Sometimes when i hearing, i feel like japanese peaople usually link Su and o (of を or just お) become to SO (THEY DO NOT SPEAK "SU O" BUT "SO"). 静岡県(しずおかけんbecome shizokaken)
    Am I wrong, sensei? I have this confuse in a really long time and not have an answer yet (so sad).

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  Год назад +2

      As for "yoroshiko," I recorded myself saying "Yoroshikonegaishimasu" and it sounded like "Yoroshiku onegaishimasu," as you pointed out, which makes me really surprised.
      But as for Shizuoka, when I say Shozoka, it sounded like Shizoka, not Shizuoka.
      I guess the reason is that the former doesn't have a pitch change in "uo," but the latter does. So when I say しずおかけん with けん, then there's no pitch change in "uo" part, thus when I say Shizokaken fast, it sounded like Shizuokaken.
      Anyway, you're right, "Yoroshikuonegaishimasu" sounds like "yoroshikonegaishimasu" and "shizuokaken" sounds like "shizokaken," when we say them fast.
      I guess It's because u and o are very close in sound and o is more prominent because o comes after u.
      We know the word, so we hear "uo" sound there.

    • @Kha162
      @Kha162 Год назад

      @@SpeakJapaneseNaturally Thank you very much, senseiii. Your precious answer help me find a big puzzle piece in my progressing japanese.

  • @timlarsson
    @timlarsson 3 года назад

    Great video explaining something that I have not been able to fully understand before. Especially rule number 3, which was really a moment of なるほど!💡
    But if I understand you correctly, ティムです would not be devoiced (ム I mean) since it was only for し and す. And actually, ム would never be devoiced since it's a voiced consonant, right? 😮

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  3 года назад

      You're right, ム is never devoiced because of the "m" before "u."
      Thank you for the comment!

  • @WarapornTahira
    @WarapornTahira 9 месяцев назад

    Anan let me know how to shape the the ei hair 7:45

  • @manfredmclaren3408
    @manfredmclaren3408 2 года назад

    A great video. Thank you. Could you, please, tell if the つ numerals that have the Odaka pitch pattern would have the う reduced at the end of a phrase (before a vocal pause), e.g. 2つ、3つ、4つ etc. Since the accent nucleus is on う it should not be devoiced but as う is at the end of the sentence, it kind of should be. While listening to natives speak, I heard both versions. Hence I am bit confused here. Thank you in advance.

  • @sandwichmaker9000
    @sandwichmaker9000 2 года назад

    Can the word Excel in Katakana (EKUSERU) be an of rule 1 and 4 combined? I feel like the last RU can be devoiced sometimes.

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  2 года назад +1

      I don't think the last RU is devoiced. A vowel after R isn't devoiced.

  • @The_DoubtingThomas
    @The_DoubtingThomas Год назад

    名前の発音を教えてくれてありがとうございました!嬉しいです🙂

  • @markas798
    @markas798 7 месяцев назад

    Isn’t ピカチュウa 中高 noun?

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  7 месяцев назад

      Yes, it is.

    • @markas798
      @markas798 7 месяцев назад

      @@SpeakJapaneseNaturally It shows as 平板 in the video

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you so much for letting me know!
      I added the correction in the description.
      I need to be careful. I'm very sorry.

  • @silevol
    @silevol Год назад

    I'm a bit confused right now. In your pitch diagram the accent of ありがとうございます is on が, isn't the accent supposed to be on り in Standard Japanese? Or am I missing something?

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  Год назад +2

      I'm sorry, it's a mistake that I haven't noticed. You're right, り is high, and が isn't high.
      I added the correction to the description of the video.
      Thank you for letting me know. I'll be more careful.

    • @silevol
      @silevol Год назад

      @@SpeakJapaneseNaturally Alright, thanks for responding and correcting it!
      ありがとうございます!

  • @lkj2727
    @lkj2727 2 года назад

    ふみさん, I have a question; Can "devoicing" occur in a row?
    For example, when pronouncing 「外出する(がいしゅつする)」, しゅ and つ are both "u" sounds, and are both placed in between "unvoiced consonants".
    In this case, is correct to pronounce it as 「がい-sh-ts-する」? (Roman alphabets represent devoiced sounds)
    I believe when する is detached(thus only 外出), it should be pronounced 「がい-sh-つ」.
    So I'm not very sure if I should pronounce 「外出する」as 「がい-sh-つする」or 「がい-sh-ts-する」.

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  2 года назад +1

      Hi, usually, some people say devoicing doesn't occur in a row, but when I say it quickly I say「がい-sh-ts-する」but sometimes I say 「がい-sh-つ-する」 . I think either is fine.

    • @lkj2727
      @lkj2727 2 года назад

      @@SpeakJapaneseNaturally なるほど!大変助かりました~ありがとうございます。😃

    • @SpeakJapaneseNaturally
      @SpeakJapaneseNaturally  2 года назад +1

      いえいえ、お役に立ててよかったです😊

  • @WarapornTahira
    @WarapornTahira 9 месяцев назад

    Let see when we agree to correct 😂. when are you correct 😁.hi

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    @WarapornTahira 9 месяцев назад

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    @WarapornTahira 9 месяцев назад

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    @WarapornTahira 9 месяцев назад

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  • @WarapornTahira
    @WarapornTahira 9 месяцев назад

    Like😢😂🎉

  • @nootherlikemyownskin3818
    @nootherlikemyownskin3818 2 года назад

    Part 2
    11 more word in Japanese

  • @WarapornTahira
    @WarapornTahira 9 месяцев назад

    I take that ko kka I.
    Tt