Restoring a Champion “Midway” No. 71 Forge and Blower - Part 1: Disassembling the Forge
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Restoring a Champion “Midway” No. 71 Forge and Blower - Part 1: Disassembling the Forge
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I have the forge, anvil & tools that belonged to my great grandfather passed down through the generations. The duck nest is exactly like yours but with no tray. We have always mounted it in a rock or brick foundation. The blower is on a pedestal. My dad was particularly talented with it & I learned from him. When i was a little fellow, about 3 years old I discovered that by pulling down hard on the blower crank, the flywheel inside would give me a ride over the top picking me up off the ground. One day I was "riding the blower" and it toppled on top of me pinning me to the ground, the oil stem hit me in the head cracked my skull and I ended up in the hospital with stitches and a concussion. My Mother was horrified and surely gave my Dad the 3rd degree. The next day, I was eating lunch (broccoli) in my hospital room when the doctor came by... he said, "If that boy is well enough to eat that hospital broccoli, he's good enough to go home."
Teaching boys at summer camp is probably one of the best experiences of my life.
OMG! I knew I saw you somewhere before Keith! You were my blacksmithing merit badge counselor at Philmont When I was a kid! I couldn't quite figure it out, that's been 30 years ago. But I never forgot what I learned then. I went there for 2 weeks when I was close to getting my Eagle scout. That's cool!
My grandfather (born 1891) trained as a blacksmith in a buggy factory. When he finished training the boss put him in the paint shop, which he disliked. He found a job on the railroad and rose to engineer. He always liked working with metal, and could fix or fabricate just about anything. I remember the unique smell of his workshop, a mix of varnish, grease, and coal smoke. They don't make them that way any more. Thanks for showing this new project.
Keith is probably as close as you'll get to your grandpa.
Hi Keith. I have that exact forge. They are a beast! I love mine.
That red high heat silicone is a good choice for that gasket. We used it on all our late model headers which would be glowing red hot for 100 laps. It seals better and does not get loose and crack like a gasket.
I think something like gun gum paste would be a better alternative.
The old local blacksmith here in town used that for decades.
He sadly past away not to long ago 🙁
You know, you made the job much harder on yourself when you said the magic words "That was easier than it should have been"
It looks like it should be a great little forge. Nice work Keith! I am up early right now at 4:30 a.m. getting ready to give myself a Lovenox blood thinner injection.
that doesn't sound very fun,
hope all is well...
best wishes from 🇨🇦
@@ontariofishing1790 I have had two aortic valve replacements and everytime I have an invasive medical procedure done I go off my Warfarin blood thinner and on to the Lovenox bridge. I am prone to blood clots so I will be on these thinners the rest of my life. May Our Lord Jesus bless you and your family, always and forever.
You have my deepest sympathy. I have been on blood thinners since 1989. The process of going on and off Coumadin, now Jantoven (name brand Warfarin), and on to Lovenox (Heparin) is absolutely miserable. I cringe even thinking about it. I wish you the best and hope everything goes well.
Bob
That is really a great find!
Great project, thanks.
Hey Keith, one of my fondest memories as going through that Philmont camp and doing the blacksmith activity, so thank you for serving there. That was my first hands on metal working intro. Thanks
Thank you for sharing your skills and I have enjoyed the content
I use a #41 Champion in our shop, it’s in my latest video. 🔥🔥🔥 This is an awesome project Keith!
Man, I love your channel. Always something new and different.
The cast bracket is the absolute hardest to find when missing.
The legs and hood are all replaceable
Sounds like someone needs to make a pattern and store it with Windy Hill Foundry.
That thing is in great shape. I can’t wait to see this progress. As usual, great video.
Love it. Really interesting project. I like it when you deconstruct this kind of thing and bring them back to new.
Good morning from the UK Keith , perfect timing just got a coffee 😁
My friend from the NJBA chapter of ABANA had one of those and it was such a joy to use. But looking at that firepot it is super different and doesn't look like the original. I do hope you restore that as well. That original design of the champion firepots worked so much better than the modern ones that just have a puck in the center. That puck always burns out, but the champion one never had an issue and the air was directed super well right to the middle of the coal fire.
Keeping the original legs and adding back on the missing section would keep the nice curves.
Thank you Mr. Keith this was an excellent video showing the action and not a whole Lotta talking looking forward to the restoration and hopefully you’ll find a time to use it
I hear you about High School! I graduated in 1976 (as it happens today is my 64th birthday) and I took the metal shop classes because I wanted to learn. Unfortunately, in my experience, as was yours, most of the guys in there were "steered toward the trades" as they were definitely NOT college material! Guys in tenth grade counting the days until their 18th birthday and could drop out and spend the rest of their lives pumping gas. The same guys that made my HS life miserable (as one said years later) "Because I was so much smarter than them"! I made "A"s and "B"s and they made "D"s and "F"s and had been held back a grade or three (but I digress). 🤬
They used hi temp caulk on the frue flange. Good for 500 degrees.AL B.
Thanks Keith.
Keith: A muffler shop may be a good option for a new blower pipe. They bend large diameter pipe like that every day, and the muffler pipe has to stand up to high temps. in use.
I grew up in Albuquerque, and the state is called the land of enchantment, but for those that moved there, but can't afford to move away, it's called the land ot entrapment.
I have fond memories of summer camp in the Farmington area of NM. In my welding class, we had an introduction to blacksmithing, and it's something that I've used many times.
Yes, I have heard the Land of Entrapment statement. Tom Joles of KOB TV used the term in reaction to those who called NM that. I lived in Deming for over 15 years, but went back home to the East Coast.
Philmont!!!! WOW!!! Very cool. Best place on the planet. Did a trek at Philmont. My sons were able to do two treks. The blacksmithing anvil at Philmont is called Betty (I think).
Oh Bettty I’m so sorry!
Loved my trek and memories.
@@Cinder2008 It took me 50 years to get there, but it was well worth it. I remember the blacksmith having each of the scouts say 'Oh Betty, don't be buggering up my pretty face''.
Great video Keith, keep'um coming..
Thanks Keith,
Just a Note, if you haven't figured it out by now but the Audio kept changing between Video Cuts ?
Mike M.
What happened with the white mountain ice cream churns from 3ys ago? They were disassembled and then no more videos.
I built my first forge at 14 with a lot of help from my Dad. I used a reversed vacuum cleaner motor for the blower. A really, really bad idea.
If it won't move, don't force it, get a bigger wrench.
If it breaks, it needed to be replaced anyway.
For some reason my father hated the term "cheater bar". He called it a "persuader".
Nice new project Keith. I was thinking you could have done with a forge to heat up that big cast iron brazing repair you did recently!
Keith, I would love to see you rebuild the blower. I don't think I have seen anyone redo one that was any further than a good cleaning and they all are just noisy as can be. I did not think they could be silent. Looking forward to this series.
Thanks for the videos.
Do not think Mr grumpy next door would appreciate me taking up blacksmithing
Okay honestly, how hard did you laugh when you started editing this video and saw your cat taking a bath in full view of the camera? 😁 Because it looks like from where you were standing you may not have noticed that at the time, lol.
What you called a tee pipe is the tuyère for the fire pot.
I am surprised to heck and back that the blower arm isn't broken. What sorcery is that? :)) This will be a great project.
I know, if that was me, I would have taken that blower and arm off before I tried to flip it. I know what would have happened if I tried that and it ain’t pretty. Lol
Can't wait to see you build a full setup at home near the shop!
Come to Keith's place, the den of rebuilding & restoration. I think he is happiest when working on a project - and there have been so many. Yet another job is on the list and you bet it will turn out like new. You are an inspiration, Keith.
😊❤👍👍👍🦴💪
On the right of the forge, is that a water tray?
I have an old champion rivet forge.
Any News On Mr. Wiggins? Really miss his channel! Everything 👍🏻 okay?
What the H E Double Hockey Sticks is the blade on that grinder? Never seen anything cut that fast!!!!
WE'RE ALL EXCITED, GREAT START, GREAT JOB, PET OR TELL EVERYBODY HELLO, GREAT VIDEO...SEE YOUALL WHEN...
The older I get the longer my cheater bar gets. Now I can't pick up the bar. Thanks for your time. Pete in South Carolina
Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.🔨👍👀
I won't mind an occasional blacksmithing video. A bit of variety is good.
The Red is likely wood stove front glass sealer. High Temp for certain.
Kids these days are more interested in becoming "influencers" than they are learning trades. I recall some of those same people you're talking about in high school shop classes as well. Anyway if we don't start encouraging youngsters to participate in industrial education, in 100 years trades like blacksmithing and old school machinists will probably die out. Everything will be done with CNC or some other technology
I thought you already had a forge, if memory served me correctly (failing these days) you got one a few years ago. Glad you didn't get hurt when the blower arm dropped... and that it didn't crack. You are doing quite a few projects at once. Certainly great to have the space and while one is working send the other out... good on you.
JUST A SUGESTION BY PASS THIS ELEMENTARY RESTORING STUFF AND GO TOCHAMMERING . 🙄
Just a suggestion: Quit yelling!!!
@@paulcopeland9035 PAUL COPELAND HAVE YOU A PROBLEM UNDERSTANDING ANOTHER PERSON AND HIS VIEWS THUS GET TO HAMMERING FORGE AHEAD GET ON WITH IT THATS NOT YELLING SIR WHATS YOUR THINKING PROBLEM PAULC.😒
Are you going to build a hood for it?
I'm going to find this very interesting. When it's done, I do hope you'll show us some of your blacksmithing skills!
The threads in the leg bosses look super clean!
I went to Philmont in '87, we're you working then? What camp?
cheater bar info, I use aluminum baseball bats with the large end cut off about an inch from the end. There is a reinforcement band inside to strengthen the sidewall. Very light and strong.
Wow that's nice Keith, Hope there is some fun in store and trying to find some stuff to fix this old forge. I have a Buffaloe Forge. the legs are probably 8 or 10 inches longer and like you say in your video they swoop out almost the whole length. guessing 2 1/5 or maybe three inches higher. I think I measured the height at about 31" table top to floor. Good luck
That RTV silicone is designed for high temps.
This is a fun project, looking forward to the restoration.
Keith - You are just like me. The newest project almost always goes to the top of the list. It doesn't even make the list. I just start working on it.
Take it apart to see what makes it tick! I know that feeling!
Something you can do with cast iron you can melt and cut the old bolts out with a cutting torch without harming the cast iron as a cutting torch will not cut cast iron, however this will not work on cast steel as a cutting torch will cut the cast steel
Who was it that said"give me a lever and I can move the world" or in your case a cheater bar...
Should call it an Archimedes Bar, not a cheater bar :)
Whatever happened to the Diresta bandsaw?
If you find another one I'll take it
I see ginger gave the forge a cat scan. 😁
It was stove pipe silicone
Lots of audio problems - which is unusual for you. You feeling ok?
Very interesting, Keth.
great content keith
The only bit of blacksmithing I've done, was making a poker, in metalwork class, at school. 😊
Hey Mr Rucker!! Do you still have your monster size evaporust tank? 😃 It would be great for this project!!
Oh Keith. I know you've got spectacles on but you really should wear protection goggles when using the cutter - please. I've seen the results of lack of eye protection and it's not pretty.
Thankyou Keith for sharing your wonderful projects.
17:26 Keith, position your body weight on the side that's sliding, then use your 'cheater-bar' to unscrew that final leg. Looking forward to part 2...thumbs up!
I hope I'm in that good a condition at 110 years old
Classic disassembly, you just did whatever had to be done to avoid damage. Sometimes that can be the most risky part of a job (to the worker and the project). Good Job!
Our crew blacksmithed at Philmont also.
Hello Keith!
I watch a saw mill channel that has a swinging chop saw. A 4-5" wide flat belt is used. The belt flaps like a flag in a gale. I think this may be an issue. How should a flat bet look in normal operation?
A set of 3 v-belts from the diesel engine to the 50" blade also flap. I think this is also an issue. Any suggestions or AM I being an alarmist?
Thank You and forge on.
Very interesting thank you Keith. I've not seen that style of forge before, the people I know who use old hand cranked forges have the smaller rivet style forges.
I picked up blacksmithing back in my early 30s (around 2004ish I think). Propane fired forge, but well equipped with a couple anvils, hammers tongs, etc. Really got into it to make knives and did that, but had a lot of fun doing other stuff, like making the tongs and fullers, hot cuts, axes, all kinds of stuff. Unfortunately, just like you mentioned, I tore my right shoulder up really badly a couple years ago and I still haven't gotten it quite behind me yet, may need another surgery yet. Still have it all and hope to get back to it one of these days. It'll be fun to watch you get it set up, and I sure do hope you post some blacksmithing content, I'd love to watch it.
Good video 👍
I was one of those kids just sitting in the back not really caring about what the teacher was talking about. For the past 35 years have been regretting it almost every day. So nice to come here and try to play catch up on my learning. THANK YOU!!
Now you can take that steel scrap and forge some Damascus parts. Have fun!
As always, Thanks for sharing your journey and most interesting history!
I'm still wondering why you did not fasten the forge bottom to the saw horses clamped it blocked it in some way
An interesting project for any blacksmithing hopefuls. Any plans for a gas forge too?
So "to many irons in the fire" comes to mind but enjoyed the content. You need the 36 inch long pipe wrench just put it next to pipe and it will come free.
😁 𝓟Ř𝔬𝓂𝔬𝐒ϻ
I have the champion blower and a leg set for the blower. Also have the tuyere with the damper and clinker breaker, but not the fire pot, nor any of the rest of the forge pan nor hood. All in remarkably good shape for their age. You might just get me energized to fabricate the balance of what I need to get a forge going.
Com'on Man! Keith, you are old enough to know and I am sure that you have received training about shop safety. Please remember to wear safety glasses and a safety shield when using a grinder. Your prescription glasses are not safety glasses suitable for grinding/cut-off operations. Your eyes can not be restored unlike all the devices that you restore in your shop.
my prescription glasses are safety glasses so his could be too
Now you need a "spreading chestnut-tree"
Great project. Thanks for sharing.
everytime you were banging on that chisel i was squinting awaiting for the pan to break. I am always weary on hammering on cast iron parts
My thoughts exactly!
That is a beautiful forge.
What happened to the steam stoker engine ? Did y’all give up on it?
The drinking game lives on!!!! There is always a "stoker" guy who asks the "question"!!
cool project.. cant wait for part 2
The tyure is not original, they cut out the cast iron. So how can you restore it original with the bottom cast iron missing?