I see that Sofia tram system, like that in my Zagreb, is a mixture of old, new and second hand, high and low floor, from a variety of manufacturers. It would be nice to learn the source of these vehicles (I recognize the venerable old ČKD). Are some manufactured locally (our new generation is.)
@@mif4731 Ah. Thanks. Full low floor, it seems. Those green ones (line 8 and 12) are, I suppose, second hand from some German city? How about the "intermediate" one on the line 11 (about 5:10) - high floor articulated? Looks like adaptation of something older, perhaps also from ČKD/Tatra, but the sound is different.
1009 mm track gauge (depots Banishora and Krasna polyana): *Pesa Swing 122NaSF* (Poland). Our only entirely low floor trams. Lines: 1, 4, 5, 7, 18, 27 *ČKD Tatra T6A2* (Czechia). Lines: 3, 10, sometimes 11 (Line 3 is sometimes served by T6A2SF - the most noticeable difference from T6A2 is the interior) *T8M-700IT Inekon* (Czechia), entirely refurbished and renewed, based on the older Bulgarian T6M-700 model. They have a partial low floor section. Line: 6 *Schindler Waggon AG Be 4/6* (Switzerland), gifted to us second-hand, ex-Basel, imported 2017. Partial low floor section. People call them cucumbers. Lines: 8, 12 *T8K-503* (Bulgaria), bidirectional trams, however they are used as unidirectional. Some were adapted from older models. Line: 11 *T8M-900* (Bulgaria), partial low-floor section. Some were adapted from older models. Line: 11 All Bulgarian trams were made before 1991 by Tramkar in Sofia. We still have one locally manufactured T6M-700 left and it's sometimes used. Recently it was on line 12. We also have some old Tatra T4DC in the reserves. Fun fact: In 2013 we tried using a Croatian Končar tram on an experimental line with the number 5K, but returned it a few months later. The bad condition of the tracks did some damage to the tram. 1435 mm track gauge (Iskar depot): *ČKD Tatra T6B5* (Czechia). Line: 20 *ČKD Tatra T6A5* (Czechia). Second-hand, ex-Prague, imported between 2016 and 2020. Line: 22 and rarely 20 *Duewag GT8* (Germany). Second-hand, ex-Bonn, manufactured 1960-1965, imported 1995. Bidirectional trams. The oldest trams still in regular service in Sofia. Line: 23. The reason for this is that line 23 doesn't have a proper loop at the end of its route, and until it is fully extended, we need to use bidirectional trams. We'll probably scrap these once the line is properly extended, but it'd be nice to keep some for a possible future transport museum. We also have some old Tatra T4D-M2 in the reserves. We tried producing our own 1435mm gauge trams (T6MD-1000), but it did not go well and we imported Duewag and Tatra trams. I split the list into 1009mm gauge and 1435mm gauge trams, but I didn't split the 1009mm depots so as to not make things even more confusing. I hope this was useful and insightful. I'd be happy to answer any further questions if you have any.
@@Alexsssz Thank you! This was what I was looking for. It's interesting that you (that is, Sofia) tried our "Cro-tram" (Končar/Đaković consortium) trams - shame that it didn't work out. Zagreb is buying the new batch, but, since tha manufacture was paused, it will take some time. BTW, we also used second hand Duewags as a stop-gap, but on a meter track. We also made our own trams (high floor, non-articulated, with up to two trailers) until perhaps 1980, and then bought a lot of ČKD/Tatras. It's interesting how the history and development of our two systems is similar.
@@bazoo513 At least you still have local manufacturing - the tram system in Sofia has been continuously neglected for the past 30 years, because our metro system has been developing - and the city's administration thinks that the metro is the solution to everything. After 1995, we only really got the new Inekon trams in 2009 and Pesa in 2013, and only now are we beginning to plan to build actual "new" routes (they aren't even new, they've been in the plans for decades, but now the process is starting). Hopefully some of the tracks in worst condition can get repaired this year and we can see a renaissance of tram transport in Sofia. And yes, it is a shame that the Cro-tram TMK 2200 didn't last in Sofia, they were, from a passenger comfort perspective, way ahead of what we had at the time, but I guess the Pesa deliveries made up for it.
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Hey ya’ll amazing video i write from Palermo Sicily Italy a.D. 02.III.2024
Great video! Great trams! Big Like!
Its time for Bulgarian cities to have better public transportation and not only buses..Austria has it so can we!🇧🇬
Very Nice,Beautiful Videoclip!❤😊😮🎉
Really great video! 👏👏👏
The 10 is nice ride true the forest/park
I see that Sofia tram system, like that in my Zagreb, is a mixture of old, new and second hand, high and low floor, from a variety of manufacturers.
It would be nice to learn the source of these vehicles (I recognize the venerable old ČKD). Are some manufactured locally (our new generation is.)
Those "New" ones are Pesa Swing made in Bydgoszcz in Poland.
@@mif4731 Ah. Thanks. Full low floor, it seems. Those green ones (line 8 and 12) are, I suppose, second hand from some German city? How about the "intermediate" one on the line 11 (about 5:10) - high floor articulated? Looks like adaptation of something older, perhaps also from ČKD/Tatra, but the sound is different.
1009 mm track gauge (depots Banishora and Krasna polyana):
*Pesa Swing 122NaSF* (Poland). Our only entirely low floor trams.
Lines: 1, 4, 5, 7, 18, 27
*ČKD Tatra T6A2* (Czechia).
Lines: 3, 10, sometimes 11 (Line 3 is sometimes served by T6A2SF - the most noticeable difference from T6A2 is the interior)
*T8M-700IT Inekon* (Czechia), entirely refurbished and renewed, based on the older Bulgarian T6M-700 model. They have a partial low floor section.
Line: 6
*Schindler Waggon AG Be 4/6* (Switzerland), gifted to us second-hand, ex-Basel, imported 2017. Partial low floor section. People call them cucumbers.
Lines: 8, 12
*T8K-503* (Bulgaria), bidirectional trams, however they are used as unidirectional. Some were adapted from older models.
Line: 11
*T8M-900* (Bulgaria), partial low-floor section. Some were adapted from older models.
Line: 11
All Bulgarian trams were made before 1991 by Tramkar in Sofia. We still have one locally manufactured T6M-700 left and it's sometimes used. Recently it was on line 12. We also have some old Tatra T4DC in the reserves.
Fun fact: In 2013 we tried using a Croatian Končar tram on an experimental line with the number 5K, but returned it a few months later. The bad condition of the tracks did some damage to the tram.
1435 mm track gauge (Iskar depot):
*ČKD Tatra T6B5* (Czechia).
Line: 20
*ČKD Tatra T6A5* (Czechia). Second-hand, ex-Prague, imported between 2016 and 2020.
Line: 22 and rarely 20
*Duewag GT8* (Germany). Second-hand, ex-Bonn, manufactured 1960-1965, imported 1995. Bidirectional trams. The oldest trams still in regular service in Sofia.
Line: 23. The reason for this is that line 23 doesn't have a proper loop at the end of its route, and until it is fully extended, we need to use bidirectional trams. We'll probably scrap these once the line is properly extended, but it'd be nice to keep some for a possible future transport museum.
We also have some old Tatra T4D-M2 in the reserves. We tried producing our own 1435mm gauge trams (T6MD-1000), but it did not go well and we imported Duewag and Tatra trams.
I split the list into 1009mm gauge and 1435mm gauge trams, but I didn't split the 1009mm depots so as to not make things even more confusing. I hope this was useful and insightful. I'd be happy to answer any further questions if you have any.
@@Alexsssz Thank you! This was what I was looking for. It's interesting that you (that is, Sofia) tried our "Cro-tram" (Končar/Đaković consortium) trams - shame that it didn't work out. Zagreb is buying the new batch, but, since tha manufacture was paused, it will take some time. BTW, we also used second hand Duewags as a stop-gap, but on a meter track.
We also made our own trams (high floor, non-articulated, with up to two trailers) until perhaps 1980, and then bought a lot of ČKD/Tatras. It's interesting how the history and development of our two systems is similar.
@@bazoo513 At least you still have local manufacturing - the tram system in Sofia has been continuously neglected for the past 30 years, because our metro system has been developing - and the city's administration thinks that the metro is the solution to everything. After 1995, we only really got the new Inekon trams in 2009 and Pesa in 2013, and only now are we beginning to plan to build actual "new" routes (they aren't even new, they've been in the plans for decades, but now the process is starting). Hopefully some of the tracks in worst condition can get repaired this year and we can see a renaissance of tram transport in Sofia. And yes, it is a shame that the Cro-tram TMK 2200 didn't last in Sofia, they were, from a passenger comfort perspective, way ahead of what we had at the time, but I guess the Pesa deliveries made up for it.
Btw if you want I can send you some footage of line 21 which im not gonna use
Малко подрани, в момента се возя в трамвай 21
Клипът беше публикуван няколко дни преди да пуснат трамвай 21.
@@НиколайБоянов-х2т видях :)