My personal best was 1554 miles when I was under pressure to get to my duty station at Camp Pendleton (50 years ago). I was on a Yamaha YDS6c (250 Big Bear Scrambler). This was before the Interstate was finished. My route was from Austin to Dallas to San Diego to Oceanside. It was the middle of winter. Texas was wet and cold. New Mexico and Arizona were dry and cold. This was before I knew about insulated underwear. It took me 23 hours and 15 minutes. More recently, I did an endurance ride of 1,100 miles with a riding club. I was on a 2001 Valkyrie. No windshield on that hotrod. Three younger friends were going to escort this 'old man' and give me support. I was the only one to complete the ride. The others had a bike with a primary chain that broke, one gave up, and one bisected a Rottweiler at 1:00 am in the morning just southeast of Cleburne, Texas. I now have a 2012 Goldwing (55th bike?). I've done 700-900 mile days on rides out into west Texas, up across Oklahoma into Arkansas, and back. But at 70, most of my rides are under 500 miles a day. Most folks won't ride with me. I ride in 110 degree weather, 20 degree weather, and blinding thunderstorms. I've been riding right at 60 years now. When my wife rides with me, we seldom do more than 200-350 in a day. She likes to stop and do tourist stuff. I like to twist the throttle and make this planet spin beneath me. ;)
That’s awesome. I’m planning my first long trip from Fort Worth Tx to Johnstown Co on my Suzuki sfv650. As soon as I get some mechanical things taken care of and new rubber I’ll be heading out northwest.
steveXracer your butt doesn't care if it is on the seat for 1-hour at a stoplight, or 1 hour at 55 mph. Gonna hurt the same regardless. That's my point.
An hour of buckled pavement and bumps on a ruined hot, sunny 4-lane is a lot worse than an hour on a smooth 2-lane on a curvy, shady back-road. Same hour; far different ride!
Hey there MCrider, back when I was a "young" Marine, riding from Mcas Yuma, up to the Bay Area, (where family is), wow, I logged so MANY MILES, even as a "Not so" experienced rider , back and fourth , back and fourth, chugging "viveran's" with Gatorade,,,,,,, and sometimes stopping for 2 cheese burgers, and one hamburger, at a McDonalds, (or some planters peanuts), for the "Fat content" so I wouldn't become hungry for hours, on the ride!!!!!!!!! I'm SO glad I'm older/wiser now! Get the rest first, eat light, drink lots of "WATER"> pure/CLEAN, and "ride..... like the WIND...."
Great advice,thanks Kevin. Another thing,make darn sure you get comfortable,excellent sleeping conditions on extended multi day tours. I also find that it is more comfortable to ride safely at a moderate pace,staying mostly in the right lane,than dodging in and out of traffic. Doing so reduces stress,which fatigues you earlier.
With regard to deer whistles. Deer whistles require vehicle speed of at least 35 mph to produce a sound. For more than 10 yrs, I have had a Hornet XP-3 Deer avoidance device on all of my motors. It is a 12v, 120 dB variable frequency resonator which bounces a soundwave along the surface of the highway for up to a half a mile. I’ve had many instances on highways, the Blue Ridge Parkway, and here in east Tennessee where theHornet has stopped deer in their tracks and to look where the strange sound is coming from. I am a true believer in this device because I and my wife have experienced it working.The device comes in black or chrome finish & packaged with a fused wiring harness for a motorcycle or a car and a toggle switch. Most deer are used to & not intimidated by motor, horns & traffic sounds. This device produces an abnormal sound, arresting their attention. When stopped at a light, you can hear the device. Once underway, wind & engine noise drown the sound for the driver. They can be purchased at Amazon for less than $100. Devices are available for motorcycle/auto & 18 wheelers. Wonderful device. Check it out.
Hi Kevin! I rode on the highway for the first time yesterday. I was so excited to start using my new skills. I felt comfortable and in complete control. Couldn't say that a week ago. Thank you for caring so much about riders. It makes a difference to have great advice from seasoned riders like yourself. Thanks for the great videos. See you on the road!
The Air-hawk seat with the Alaska Sheepskin buttpad makes a huge difference making that extra hundred miles down the road! A great combination together!
Personal best is 1250 in one day. Not a good idea. Got home and slept for 3 days straight. Literally got up, bathroom, water, pass out. DO NOT RECOMMEND!!!!!! On regular trips I do from 400-800 miles a day. I dont ride at dawn or dusk (or after dark) due to animals in the roadway. If you make frequent short stops, and dont take long breaks, 800 miles a day is pretty doable if the weather cooperates.
One really bad situation is that if you haven’t planned a time/distance end of day, riding until you feel like stopping potentially puts you in a position of making important safety decisions when you are impeded by fatigue.
Hey Kevin, I am the newest rider on your site. I say that because I have not yet purchased my very first bike! I am so glad that I found your site prior to my purchase. I would have spent my whole budget on the bike and not had enough money for the proper safety equipment. But, you have changed my mind not just on the bike and safety equipment but on the practice regimen as well. I am really excited to get into this right and hopefully avoid mishaps due to bad safety and strategy habits. So thanks for speaking directly to guys like me, it is appreciated.
Rode from Fort Worth Texas to New York to Florida and back to Texas in one weekend. I went 1,200 miles the initial stretch stopping for gas only. Won’t do it ever again lol
I've never ridden long miles other than 640 miles from Narbonne in France to Almeria in Southern Spain. It was a great Spring time ride along the Mediterranean highway. The spoiler was the side wind the whole way down on a full fairing bike with tank and pillion bag. I handled like a sail board and required lots of counter steering to stay off the armco. Most of my riding now is jollying around on a Fat Bob with a custom seat that looks awesome but cripples me after 150 miles. I live in the UK but dream of touring in the USA sometime before I'm too old to get my leg over the saddle. I watched your blog about touring and route maps and all and it was really thought provoking. Thank you for the great work Kevin. All your advise is well thought and the lessons are easy to follow and stay with me on my tootling around on out pot holed washed out roads over here. Believe me, when you ride a bike in the UK staying out of A&E depends on having 360 degree vision and good road strategy.
Decided to go from Utah to Oklahoma to see my dad for a few days and it was 900 miles, so I planned to split it up in two days and overnight in a campground. I drove backroads all the way and when I arrived where I wanted to overnight, it was threatening rain all night so I decided to keep going. I ended up driving through a couple of T-storms but eventually did the 900 miles all in one day. I was surprised at how easy it seemed and I did not feel too bad the next day either. Since I did so well on that trip, I decided a few days later to travel from OK to northern MN where my wife was attending a newly born grandchild. That was another 1088 miles which I did divide up in two days since I had a lot of rain along the way. Then I was faced with the 1400 mile ride home. I set out to ride all backroads and ended up doing two 700 mile days. The second day was definitely harder but I enjoyed the whole trip and would do it again in a heartbeat. I ride a Victory Vision and that may be considered cheating. 😀
I’ve ridden Alaska, across the Sahara Desert w my wife, to key West, etc. and did the TAT in 2017 w 2 of our sons and I LOVE the joy of machine, exploration, fellowship w guys In a group, and the beauty of creation. With THOSE components, 300 miles is usually PLENTY for a day. Do the 100 miles of Big Sur coast and you need a full day. A BIG thing that is crucial is SLEEPINESS. If you ride enough, you’ll have moments, especially when it’s HOT, where you can get overwhelmingly sleepy! Riding sleepy is true danger. Find a picnic table or a shade tree. A half hour is like a tank of gas.
Around 400 and I'm done. My bladder isn't what it used to be so I plan comfort stops more often. There's nothing worse than thinking I'll just do another few miles then you Have to stop! I guess vibration makes a difference too. When I had a Z1300 six, though smoother, found the high frequency vibes more annoying than my current lumpy twin. For long runs particularly on a naked bike, I ride a little slower, mile after mile of wind blast I find wearing but knocking 10mph off helps. Must say that my old Goldwing was the bees knees at high mileage, never had anything more comfortable since!
I have 2 road kings and have logged many miles on both. I recently completed an iron butt ride on my 2017 RK. I have an Airhawk seat pad and really like it. It works the best with very little air in it. I over inflated it the first time I used it. Also the way I use it is to put it off and on the bike several times during a long trip. It changes the pressure points and it allows so.e air flow under your butt as you ride.
Kevin, regarding AirHawk seat cushions: I have lost count of the number of thousand-plus mile days that I have ridden...ALL of them with an AirHawk seat cushion between my stock seat and my behind. Let me state that I am in no way affiliated with AirHawk I am an Iron Butt Back-to-Back 1500+ mile day finisher (in the IBA, what is known as Bun Burner Gold 3000 -- 3000-plus miles in under 48 hours. That's two 1500+ mile days back-to-back. That was on a stock Yamaha FRJ1300 seat...and an AirHawk- R.. I also use a BeadRider seat (as my everyday commuting and any 'long' rides that are under 700 miles in a day). So, in general, I keep BeadRider on the bike all the time, except when I'm going to do more than 700 miles in the day-and that's when I swap out the BeadRider for the AirHawk. One piece of advice I can provide to anyone who is thinking about trying one: the AirHawk works best when the bladders (I think AirHawk refers to them as 'air cells') are BARELY FILLED WITH ANY AIR IN THEM. (The AirHawk involves blowing air into a tube (to fill the internal bladders). You'll occasionally hear an AirHawk owner comment that it feels too bouncy or that they tend to slip off one way of the other. Well, that's because they're over inflating the internal bladders. With proper inflation of its bladders, the AirHawk simply cannot be beat when it comes to maintaining a comfortable behind/seat for long-distance motorcycling. And, in my opinion, the BeadRider can't be beat for short and intermediate-distance comfort. I have used both the AirHawk and the BeadRider on my last 3 motorcycles (Kawasaki KZ1000, Honda ST1000, and, currently, Yamaha FJR1300) with total combined mileage of over 400,000 miles (since 2007). After years of trying various after-market' seats-- including most of the top-branded ones--I concluded that none of those provided me more comfort than the (roughly) $120 AirHawk (for long) or the $65 BeadRider (for everyday and mid-distance) riding. I hope this information helps you and your viewers, Kevin...and keep up the great work (you are a true asset to the motorcycling community). Thank you so much! -D Goguen Iron Butt Member 32895 Bun Burner Gold 3000 finisher P.S. - Kevin, beyond our love of motorcycling (which is obvious), you and I share something in common: Like you, I have monocular vision, as I am completely blind in my left eye (due to an accident involving a tree branch while doing gardening work!). The accident didn't stop me from continuing in the saddle (that was three years ago). I've done 3 more IBA rides since then.
Steven Whitman - I do a lot of aggressive 'short rides' on twisty mountain roads, and the BeadRider--being an even layer of (virtually) frictionless porcelain beads--is much easier to slide on and shift around on in the saddle when leaning into the curves (as compared to doing so with the AirHawk). Also, the BeadRider provides a little better airflow than the AirHawk does (although the AirHawk is also very good in that respect). So, in general, I do prefer the overall feel and rideability of the BeadRider over the AirHawk except in one area: when I'm doing LONG rides. When it comes to doing longer rides, my behind will almost always begin to feel somewhat sore on the BeadRider after about the 13th or 14th hour into the ride. With the AirHawk, I don't have that problem. I guess my butt bones, after sitting that many hours on the BeadRider, finally succumb to the 'hardness' of the beads whereas they are very content given the 'softness' of the cushy, air-filled rubber cells of the AirHawk. The first time that I experienced the discomfort on the BeadRider after about 700 miles into a 1000+ mile ride, I stopped and put on the AirHawk (which ate up some valuable time) and I was fine after that for the remainder of the ride. So, after having gone through that experience, I promised myself not to start any REALLY LONG rides with the BeadRider on the saddle; for LONG RIDES, the AirHawk results in less fatigue for me.
Curt o In the Iron Butt Association, a certified (meaning, witnesses and gas receipts, each clearly showing location, time, and date) of 1500 miles in under 24 hours; it's called a Bun Burner Gold. You can read about it here: www.ironbutt.com/themerides/bbgold/
My first bike was a drz400. After about 2 hours the stock seat was downright painful. With an airhawk I could ride it all day long no problem. Those things absolutely work.
AirHawk promised to extend my miles, and they did not disappoint. I was on a Heritage and would be in TOTAL pain after about 300 miles - first trip on an Airhawk - 650!!! crazy stuff! On another note, Kevin you are right (for me), the holiday starts as I pull out of the garage -so, whether it is 300 or 1200, they are all good days. You alluded to it - are you out to ride, or are you out to get somewhere. Bottom line, only ride for as long as it is fun! (IBA Mile Eater)
I rode from SD to NC in 23 hrs. My dad rode the same distance from Canada to NC in the same time 23 hrs. Both trips about 1,100 miles. He fell asleep and woke up going down a row in a peach orchard in NC. Lucky he lived through that one. It is kind of a silly,macho thing to try. Dangerous. I felt like I held up well on my ride. But I was tired enough to sleep on rocks beside a trout stream,in broad daylight afterwards. Keep riding fun. 2 or three hundred miles in a day is plenty for me now. ;)
A great trick to help stay mentally awake is to make sure you change velocities even if very slightly and also alternate lane positions or lanes themselves if there are multiple travel lanes. That seems to help me.
The Air Hawk is great. My recollection is that the company started by making pads for folks in wheel chairs who are sitting all day long every day. The key is to put hardly any air in the bladder - else you will feel like you're sitting on a basket ball and can't stay put where you want to be on the seat. When I started off the first time, I slid back on the seat which caused me to roll on the throttle and this nearly resulted in a wheelie - none of which was my intent. Start with no air and add a little at a time until the sliding sensation first begins and then let a little air out.
The air hawk is a great addition to a long multiday ride. Just a couple cautionary thoughts. Do not over inflate the air hawk because that destroys its comfort capacity. Also as the air hawk is inflated, you raise the effective seat height of the motorcycle which impacts your handling of the motorcycle at slow speeds. Lessons learned over 7000 mile cross country trip.
just did 763 miles from the hotel we stayed at in Deadwood, SD to my door in Northern Minnesota in one day. I don't think i'll be doing that again anytime soon. The heat is what got me.
I forgot to mention about staying awake on long rides. Of course, frequent stops is recommended, and I keep a yoga pad on the bike for naps at rest areas. I discovered as we were riding in Ouray CO, they sold oxygen bottles to us seaside dwellers to help breath in the high altitudes. We bought an extra bottle and coming back thru the flat long stretches of Texas, taking a hit of oxygen really helps perk you up so you can avoid those Jackalopes.
Hey Kev! 1st thing I want to share is - nothing that "extent" the comfort zone/time is good. The natural need for a brake it the best alert you can have. Any kind of artificial extension of this period is asking for trouble - your availability for keeping mind in focus is getting lower dramatically fast. So - do the stops, and rest. There is no prostatic for that!
Kevin, thank you for your dedication to MCRider! I look forward to the video every Friday, and have viewed most of your older videos. The Air Hawk works pretty well by making the seat a bit more comfortable and elminating "boat butt" due to lack of air flow. It only takes a small amount of inflation to make a significant difference. I keep a container of Robertson's beef jerky (from your neck of the woods) on my bike for lunch, since I have a tendency to get very sleepy after eating a meal and then riding. I don't drink coffee or energy drinks, but sometimes use a caffeine tablet if I get drowsy. If that doesn't do the trick, it is time to pull over for some shut eye. A cool vest also helps for riding long distances in the heat. It doesn't take up much room and makes the ride much more pleasant.
Hi Kevin I watch you regularly you do a great job. I’ve had a air hawk for over 5 years they are fantastic. I’ve replaced the cover last year the bladder is still fine . They are definitely the way to go . Cost was about $ 150 here in Canada . Cheers Tom .
I totally agree about the Bluetooth in the helmet. I have a Spotify account so I created my own playlist. I also wear ear plugs. It reduces the wind noise and I can actually hear my music better at a lower volume even. I have only been on short rides so far 150-200 miles. I ride with the H.O.G. Group out of Orlando. Some of them are also instructors at Harley-Davidson. They have given me some good tips over the past year. Be safe out there and have fun.
Most importantly you have to listen to your body. I rode Texas to California a 4 day run. 1st day I rode 6oo miles, brunt my self out! 2nd-4th day I road 5oo miles per day. I stoped every 100 miles got a Gator-Aid every other stop and gas at every stop. One more thing put new tires on your bike before you do a longe run. I blew a rear tire doing 80mph! Got stuck in Tuson AZ for 3 days. But get out and ride while you still can. I tell this story and ppl look at me as "The man!" Keep the rubber side up road dog!
170 miles on a honda shadow vt125 using A roads in the UK. I have a cruise control pad on throttle and a lamb skin cover on the original seat. Those 2 items make all the difference. On plates so no boring motorways for me. Keep up the good work Kevin 😊
I recently began using my Bose noise canceling ear buds under my full face helmet on my 04 Wide Glide. They make a ton of difference in the impact on my hearing and allow for quality music or books. Highly recommend.
Great topic. I'm glad you brought it up. I just finished a two-day trip from Hillsboro, Oregon to Reno Nv going over Mt Shasta.. Trip going was 604 miles and the return I took a different road through Klamath Falls Oregon. 596 miles.. 1200 miles in all. after the 604 mile ride I was soar.. wishing I didn't go so far. But I had to return...LOL I was riding a 2002 ZRX1200r.. Great bike with tons of power and smooth .. but not the best for Long rides.. also Im 62 years old. Not young by any means..
Did 675 kilometers on a 1985 CB650SC. I couldn't get up from the seat without terrible pain. Then changed the seat to a custom seat. Big difference after.
I follow a time pattern, of 90-105 minute segments when riding very long distances and highways. I'll shorten the segments for more challenging roads. I do four segments a day. 1st segment: then 20 minute break 2nd segment: then hour break 3rd segment: then 40 minute break 4th segement: done for the day. If I need to make up miles after fourth segment, there is a VERY liberal break, first. Usually at least 90 minutes. My expected travel distance depends on speed limit and type of road, traffic, and weather conditions. I take what the elements give me. Don't fight the elements. You'll lose. Ride WITH the elements, and enjoy them; for that is what touring is all about.
I've ridden 700+ miles in a day in East TN, N Georgia to include Cherohala Skyway and 2 runs thru US129 tail of mythical fire spitting lizard . Interstate 1158 in 19.5 hours. Stopped to watch fireworks , 4th of July Memphis, ate 2 sit down meals ( waffle House one, diner other) I even paid for a car wash in Missouri at 4a.m.I didn't know I did . No tunes , no music . I wasn't exhausted when I got there. Felt fine.
When I was 23 years old I got a insurance settlement and I was out of town working as a Rodbuster when the check came and I hopped in the car and drove 1000 miles from Richmond Virginia to Jellico Tennessee then cashed the check bought a 1996 Kawasaki ZX750RR and turned around and rode it right back the next day. I left Tennessee at 12 and it took me to 4am to get there my hand where so numb I couldn’t even sign in at the motel. I took the long way around through West Virginia and I would do 120mph for a while then slow down until I got the ok from a trucker I would pull up next to them and make the siren 🚨 sign with my hand and they would get on the CB and give me a thumbs up or down then I would take off again doing 120-130mph. Hell I was packing 3 ounces of good old KY bud in my backpack and a bunch of pain pills and had about $5k on me man I never felt as free as I did that day the first 500 miles was glorious then I just wanted it over and had to start taking more breaks. I’m 40 years old now and I couldn’t do that again if my life depended on it to far and that bike was to rough but I was young and dumb and full of something then 😂
Hi Kevin, been using a airhawk seat cushion for the last nine years, wouldn't leave home without it, secret is to keep the air pressure low so the cells fill with air to relieve pressure points on one's butt. They work, get home from a long ride, no numb butt. No I'm not associated with airhawk in any way, it's a great product.
My buddy and I road from Port Saint Lucie Florida to Hicksville NY in 23 hrs. That was 12yrs. Ago when I was 60yrs. Old on a 2001 Harley Ultra Classic. That was 1,100 miles. I’m now 72 so I I think was my last trip like that. Now the most I do is 500 tops and I’m hurting the next day. My mind wants to but my body says No. I very much enjoy your channel
I’m on my third seat on my HD Road Glide Ultra. Currently I’m using my Mustang seat. By far the most comfortable for me. Plus I had my shocks changed out to Legends. That made a big difference too. But - I like to average 500/day. Frequent breaks in-between.
People make fun of me for buying a Tri Glide but I had one fellow biker sit on my bike and said, "Go ahead. Tell me that's not the most comfortable bike you ever sat on." He was very appreciative of the sheer comfort of the seat. I plan on going cross country so I went comfort all the way when I picked out my bike.
My wife and I did 800 miles in day enduring heavy rain early in the day and then for the last hour heading into the hotel in Denver. She rode her Honda VTX 1300 and me on my Harley 883. Our best tip is to make an extra stop between gas stops. Use the on and off ramp shoulders to just get off the bike for 5 minutes. Breaking up the ride just enough to stretch the legs and give the butt a break goes a long way on a long day. Plus in Colorado and Utah the scenery is great even from Interstate 70. The Colorado River really has done some great work craving some excellent vistas.
All depends on how I feel that day. I have gone from western NY to Port Charlotte Florida. Took 3 days and was about 1,418 miles. Did a trip from Livingston Texas to Port Charlotte Florida to sell a Honda Shadow to a friend that was about 1.062 miles. Took me 3 days that time due to only feeling like riding for about 4 or 5 hours the first day. Then I bought my new bike in Tampa ( 2015 Triumph Thunderbird LT) that bike is so comfortable that it only took me 2 days to get back to Texas.
2002 harley softail, most I have done in one day is 615 miles. I could have gone further, but I was at my destination. Stopping for fuel every 125 miles or so helps. What beat me up was the sun, temp was in the 90's with no clouds, it got hot.
On extended days in the saddle a personal priority is staying hydrated. Many systems are available to aid the rider but simply carrying a quart of water on board is another option. On hot rides, a windproof jacket slows dehydration, although I've soaked myself at gas stops to get some relief from 100+ temps. Several times a year I will exceed 1000 miles for a day ride. Exercising on the bike is essential for me to avoid stiff muscles. Legs, arms, hands, posture -- all get stretched periodically. Changing position on the seat is a major help as well. BTW, thanks MCirder for all the pertinent videos and advice. J E Cutler Iron Butt #70
You are solid! Thanks... Headed on a trip to see my son florida to Tybee Island and then to Nashville ( Blue Ridge Mountains) ... Thanks for your advice. I am taking my Triumph Scrambler... Thanks. This former Marine will have fun!
In North Dakota, the wind is a major factor in rider fatigue. In ND, the daytime wind-speed is consistently in the range of 15 mph to 25 mph, so for me, 350 to 400 miles is max. If I could ride in areas where the wind averages a breeze under 10 mph, I think I could do 700 miles a day. In fact, I might even attempt an "Iron Butt" ride. (1000 miles)
As others have stated the Air Hawk is the best when adjusted correctly. Many of MLS I have put on them with no failure of the air cushion. Over the years I have simply misplaced them.
I just last week took a trip back home to northern Indiana from Mobile, AL to visit family. It was just shy of 900 miles. On a long distance ride, I'm more of an Interstate rider, and especially when I'm limited on time (I had 6 days to make the trip and return). I broke it up into two days up and two days back, spending two days there with Mom and Dad. I broke it up doing approximately 2/3 of the distance on the first day on the Interstate, then took County and State roads on the second day to make it slightly more relaxed. As far as gear, don't forget your under garments. Not often talked about, but just as important. I prefer something with at least 80% or better Spandex-like material to dissipate heat and reduce moisture. And pay attention to where the seams fall! Hydration is also very key! I keep two water bottles within easy reach in my tour bag behind me and replace them at fuel stops. I've tried on several full-face helmets and I just can't seem to get comfortable with them... yet. Another limiting factor for me though is my back. My lower back to be specific. I was diagnosed (like so many) with degenerative disc disease a couple years ago, and after about 7-8 hours in the saddle it really starts to get sore. I can, and do, take some pain relievers, but I try to limit that.
I agree about the “tractor seat” I got a russel day long seat. I was concerned about the price of the seat, but I would pay the price again every time. Worth every penny!! 650 miles is my longest ride, so far, but time on saddle is just as important as distance. I spent 400 miles one day but I was riding for 18 hours and I contemplating selling it and buying a bus ticket home.
Great video Kevin. More miles per day or longer saddle time? To each... his or her own. Some riders, more than others, have a fixation on one over the other. Personally, I just want to enjoy the ride, absorb the scenery and arrive safely at the next destination. All your pointers are truly helpful. Another couple of points I would add are: 1. A good night's sleep before the ride and overnight stops, and, 2. Avoid binge drinking at all cost if intending to ride the following day. Keep up the great informative videos Kevin.
1002 miles in July on 2003 Road King.....Buffalo, Wy to Bonney Lake, Wa - 15.5 hrs...hit Bonney Lake at 998.5 miles so continued around the area to finish it off...lol....and Im 60! Bucket list..CHECKED!
Instead of an AirHawk, I got a Purple "personal seat". It was less than $50 and makes a huge difference. The seat on my Softtail Street Bob looks nice but was sadistic for rides beyond about 1.5 hours. With the Purple I didn't feel as controlled as I might have liked for more intense riding, but in terms of covering more laid back miles it was great. For 1/10th of what the Harley Hammock would cost, it's a good alternative.
I like riding 200-250 miles a day when touring and I pull a pop up motorcycle camper, so trip planning is important to find camping spots, I have a friend who trailers his bike behind his motor home , drives 250 miles stops and camps unloads the bike and spends 4-6 days and rides the bike 200 miles to all points of the compass,then moves 250 miles does all over , I’m going to do this with my set up ,oh my friend and I are retired.
I have the Road Zeppelin seat from Harley on my Ultra Limited. It has 2 air bladders in the seat where the rider sits and one air bladder where the passenger sits and are adjustable via an internal electric air pump in the seat. By far the most comfortable seat for long hauls but like anything from Harley you will pay a price. I use an Airhawk on my Fatboy Lo and they are comfortable as well and priced right.
690 miles from Alabama to Oklahoma. Stayed a few days and return. Straight though both ways. I don't have a lot of riding gear but I come from a different background so when the comfort is gone I push and go anyways. Could have gone another couple of hundred more miles. Beaks are extremely important though. That and the right type of music.
Kevin, your suggestions are right on the money; Interstate for making time, two lanes for making memories. Switching to a full face helmet was a major improvement in comfort and making it further each day. Definitely going to check out the airhawk because no butt has enough padding for a long ride. I’ve done 1000 miles when it was necessary, but 300-500 seems the sweet spot for all around enjoyment. Love the videos. See you on the road.
I use the airhawk system for my long trips. The only problem it has is that it sits me a bit higher than my windshield which messes up y comfort on the helmet. I get more buffeting. I ride a Suzuki C90T. I love all of your videos. Cheers
I see that red tank in the background! Sad to see the Teneré go, but a new bike is always exciting. You’ll love that CP3 triple! I ride a Tracer and it always puts a smile on my face! Congrats!
Re. AirHawk seat cushions: I have one on my CB500F, for long journeys (e.g. London to Scotland, 500-600 miles in a day). The CB500F has a good stock seat but the AirHawk makes it even better. The trick is not to over-inflate it though, which can take a little getting right but once it's done it's done. Tip: if you'll be riding with a rucksack, set the cushion inflation while wearing the rucksack, as you'll be slightly heavier than when you're not wearing it. I can also recommend active noise-cancelling earbuds to combine hearing protection with music to keep you alert. I use a pair of Audio-Technica ATH-ANC33iS with Comply memory foam tips. The Comply tips stop them moving around in your ear and make a good seal, and the earbuds are small enough for going under a helmet. One thing you have to watch for is the little control switch on the left earbud cable - sometimes you can squeeze it between your neck and jacket collar doing a lifesaver / shoulder check, which will do whatever you've set the button to do (e.g. pause the music or skip tracks). Position it right and it doesn't happen, or you could tape or glue something round it so you can't press the button.
The most I have ridden in one 24 hour day is 1624 Knoxville, TN to Lava Hot Springs ID. Russel Day long seat, 12 gallon aux fuel cell, a Camelback fill it with ice and a Stadium Pal. August 3 - 9 traveled from Louisville through Sturgis, Billings, Cody, Pikes peak total 4500 miles in 7 days took it easy only averaged 640 miles per day.
I'm 70 years old and don't have much "personal padding" on the back end. After 200 kms on my Intruder 1500 seat I would start to squirm. Adding an Air Hawk made all the difference as I can now reel off 500 km days no problem. I know that's not a lot of daily mileage, but I'm still fresh after I stop, so an Air Hawk is a terrific add on for me. Custom seats up here run $750 or more, so a $100 Hawk is a bargain for the comfort it provides. Just don't blow it up hard as that defeats the purpose of eliminating pressure points.
I second the two-lane roads vs. interstates. Unfortunately, as you pointed out, many small towns no longer have much for services. Often no restaurants and even no gas. However, apps like TripAdvisor and GasBuddy can help in that regard. My stock LT seat was good for only 150-200 miles when I first got it, but that was wearing sliders jeans and regular cotton underwear. I switched to LDComfort riding shorts and added another 50-100 miles of comfortable riding. I added a BeadRider and that got me up to 350-400 miles depending on temperatures. I added an AirHawk under the BeadRider and found it helped a little, but wasn’t a game changer. I did a couple of back to back 550 mile days this past June and it wasn’t too bad. However, I am going to anty up for an RDL seat this winter, based on the many positive reviews I have read.
Great advice, Kevin. Weather can be a huge factor on how far you can ride. Riding in rain, heat, and cold can affect how far you can safely go. When planning trips, I use average 60 mph for the car, for the motorcycle I use 45 mph because of the time for stops. Thanks for the videos!
Riding Gear: I always wear form fit clothing. Nothing that sticks out an flaps in the wind, nothing that leaves my skin exposed to the sun or rain. I wear a leather suit for rode sport bikes but chhaps and a riding jacket work the same. I also wear water proof boots. rosk climbing boots are nice so are dirt bike boots. You can always take it off if its warm... I live in Alberta Canada warm is a luxury... and ride for an hour in your tee shirt. I have rain gear I carry always, so in an emergency i can continue even for a long ride in the rain. Riding is fun so I don't push myself. I rather carry a charge card than too much gear. Hope this helps someone.
Ride on a highway is not the same as ride on a curvy route. I live in the mountains an there is a curve after at least a mile. Miles and time is only a part of the question, but also the difficulty of the track
@steveXracer my point is, you can't compare miles. You ride 600 m in a day on a highway, but never ever on a mountain road. And if you ride 10 hrs on a highway, you can't compare it to ride 10 hrs on a curvy track. You need much more to concentrate. So the question, how many miles can you ride in a day can't be answered without defining the road type.
Airhawks are a major improvement for distributing pressure and reducing pain from a seat that does not fit the rider. The only downside I've found is they do give a little wobbly and disconnected feeling, compared to a very firm seat. Worth the money to find out if it's you or the seat.
Some good pointers. I wear either my molded ear buds or I have a good set of Sony ear buds. Helps block out wind noise, I can hear my music and GPS etc clear. Another thing I would add for those that are in really hot climates like Texas, Oklahoma and here in Fla. The current weather wicker type under garments. They help the lower region keep from getting really sweaty. I also found that wearing one of those type t-shirts vs a standard cotton shirt is night and day. I do not wear a jacket a lot, due to heat. On long rides you need sunscreen on exposed bits. So my arms are in sun light all the time, not a good thing for having skin cancer in past. So I bought a pair of the arm sleeve things. They are super, keeps sun off and if you get hot you can dump some water on them and it cools you right off.
Amen to the seat thing. My Wide Glide factory seat was too narrow for the wife so I took it to an upholstery shop and had them widen it and cover the whole thing with a softer leather. Man what a difference. I have ridden from south WI to DC in one day, about 800 miles to take part in the rolling thunder event and one other time to Chattanooga, TN for the Trail of Tears, about 700 miles. I always plan meal stops when I need gas which is about 170 to 185 miles. Depending on wind and if I'm moving to higher or lower elevations. I am on reserve at 185 and empty at 220. So if I don't need to pee, I just use the debit card and go. For food stops, I look for a restaurant near a gas station and order soup and sandwich. It comes fast and usually is not expensive. With a good windshield, goggles and protective jacket, even in hot weather, I am not exhausted when I arrive, but I have had good conditioning from my time in the military. For me, the goggles are necessary to prevent dry eyes and I cannot stand dust or grit in my eyes. Sunglasses might look cool but if they don't seal around the eyes, you are going to feel it. So even if it takes 14 hours, I can pitch the tent go find supper and be okay till maybe 9 or 10 oclock. I cannot over stress the jacket in hot weather. The wind beats on you. If you wear a Tshirt because it's "too hot for a jacket" that wind is pounding on you and you don't realize it until you get off for gas and "Oh man, I'm tired. Why am I so tired?" Plus the wind sucks the moisture out of you and you can dehydrate. I don't recommend anyone try that without first taking 400 and 500 mile trips to learn how effective your equipment is. A friend went to sleep on his motorcycle, ran off road and ended up in the ditch pretty banged up. Totaled his moto guzzi and all he got was one broken leg and numerous bruises. He was lucky, you might not be. Many thanks for the great educational videos. I dare suggest you have saved hundreds of riders from disaster. Keep up the good work.
My first long trip on my Yamaha V-Star 1100 was misery... the seat did not fit me. I purchased an AirHawk II and it made all the difference in the world! I rode Run for the Wall - Central Route from Williams, AZ to Washington DC and back home again over 18 days had very little discomfort.
Totally agree with listening music or books via Bluetooth. I really enjoying listening audiobook on my bike. I cant ride with nothing talking or playing in my ears. I went through countless audiobooks just because I ride.
I like the bead seat better than the airhawk. It doesn't feel loose and squishy but still allows good circulation...although I do stand up often on my adv bike.
About 500 interstate miles for me. Bmw k12rs, laminar lip for wind deflection, bar backs for a more neutral position, airhawk II seat bladder , Shoei RF 1200, scala bluetooth paired to mp3 for lots of music plus an fm radio. Tank bag bladder for water on the go. Integrated cruise helps for moving the hands around to keep circulation.
Thank you for the advise on planning a long distance trip. I rode 2 times from Nairobi to my home town an 800Kms journey on 2 different types of bikes. A sport bike and an Adventure bike with same number of stops almost same weather. I noticed that it was comfortable to ride an Adventure bike for that distance . I arrived home less fatigued than on the Sport bike. Am still doing my research on the causes of the different fatigue levels i had. Keep up the good job.
I have an air hawk which I purchased after having abdominal surgery. It’s a great alternative to spending $500+ on an aftermarket seat. I’m also in the 300 miles category.
I am a new rider and bought an Air Hawk for my Vulcan S. I recently did around 260 in a day with it and once I got the pressure set in the Air Hawk it was amazing.
Good video and tips, frequent breaks is the key when I'm on the long haul. I'm on a touring bike now but I've logged many 1100km + days on different styles of bikes & almost always can put in "a bit more" after a couple of stretches and a little walk to get the blood moving. Keeper safe out there ✌
Any physical therapist will tell you that touching your toes is only going to strain your back. To do your hamstrings when you take a break, use your head and just put your foot on something and do a gentle stretch forward from the hips.
Now that I'm almost 60 y.o. I limit myself to ~700 miles or 12 hours actual saddle time per day because my threshold for mental fatigue isn't what it was 40 years ago. I NEVER listen to audio of any form when riding... as a musician it's too distracting and the ride is enjoyment enough and provides ample mental stimulation. But for saddle comfort a firm flat seat like my Saddlemen tends to be more comfortable than my contoured Corbin that I have for my main touring bike which is a '98 Sportster sans fairing/windshield (I never liked either, I like the feeling of the wind).
The best thing(s) I did to turn my Heritage into an EasyBoy recliner was to get a seat with a backrest AND add 2" pullback risers so my arms were a little higher and my elbows had more bend while I am gripping the handlebars. I had backaches with the factory equipment, but no more! Thus the EasyBoy recliner joke. Our trips are usually about 200 miles per day (in the mountains of western NC/eastern TN. We stay at Iron Horse Motorcycle Lodge and always have a great time....in spite of the hailstorm we encountered this year on the BRP. And, to comment on the subject of this video, for us, it's the ride AND the destination. I rarely use my bike for commuting to work. Love riding in the mountains!
Just did 500 miles in two days down skyline drive and the upper section of Blue Ridge pkwy. Took hours speed limits are low and stopping for a few overlooks. Saturday was a 530 mile run in 7 hours with 3 fuel stops. So its definitely “time” more than miles in some cases. Oh and I run a mustang summit with an Alaska leather sheepskin on my limited.
Bought an Airhawk seat cushion. Blew it up to a comfortable level, installed it on the seat, tightened up the straps and set out. First stop, gentle stop, I slid forward an couple inches. Next corner, same thing. Third stop, yup, almost slid onto the tank. I thought, man, this is dangerous! Turned around, went home, removed it and returned it. Didn't work for me at all.
I've got a Triumph Thunderbird LT with one of the best seats in the business. An easy ride for me would be 500 miles. But you're right Kevin, taking breaks does help. Even if it's just to check the maps and make sure you're heading in the right direction. Love ya videos. Great work.
Just made a trip from Southern Illinois to Atlanta with a overnight stop in the Nashville area. Fatigue did not come from riding but from all the semi trailers that are on the interstate these days. Usually ride between 70-80 mph and the number of semi trailers and double semi trailers passing me was unbelievable. My true test of being alert was dealing with the trucks on the climb and decent around Knoxville/Chattanooga interstate 24-75. Of course fatigue sets in real quick in all the construction zones and the stop and go traffic around the Atlanta area (285). Next time, I will have to plan more travel time and stick to some two lane back roads and enjoy the ride more. Great video and tips!
On older bikes where the pillion pegs are about the same height as the rider pegs I used to use both swapping around perhaps hourly. Doing this gave a completely different riding position and helped heaps over long days.
I tend to start slouching after a little while and I occasionally have to remind myself to "sit up straight" (like our moms used to say 😄). So, posture I believe is a big factor. Also, there are days when we can go all day, and days when a few hours is the limit. It depends on a lot of factors. However, I've enjoyed every hour and every mile. Cold wet sunny warm dry day night, it's all great !
I have found that if you have a bike where you can adjust the suspension it is important to make it more comfortable as opposed to sport or touring. If you have a newer bike with semi-active suspension set it to a softer setting if you have manual I adjust the knob so it's softer for long rides. Some towns have some pretty bad roads the softer damping will lower fatigue less punishment on your back and less impact on areas such as your butt
Around 150 and I'm done . I had my left knee replaced a few months ago ; that sets a person back in many ways :( Not sure how many more 2 wheeled miles I have left in me. Earplugs = 👍
For me it’s about the seat time. I’m good for about 16-17 hours Whether that’s 350 or 1100 miles a day it’s all the same. All right a Honda ST 1300 in the airhawk cushion was a game changer. Let me ride from 6 to 700 miles a day to11 with absolutely no side effects Such as back issues. And you’re absolutely right about the Bluetooth I can switch to phone calls ,books on tape music or podcasts all in the same trip and time seems to fly bye
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My personal best was 1554 miles when I was under pressure to get to my duty station at Camp Pendleton (50 years ago). I was on a Yamaha YDS6c (250 Big Bear Scrambler). This was before the Interstate was finished. My route was from Austin to Dallas to San Diego to Oceanside. It was the middle of winter. Texas was wet and cold. New Mexico and Arizona were dry and cold. This was before I knew about insulated underwear. It took me 23 hours and 15 minutes.
More recently, I did an endurance ride of 1,100 miles with a riding club. I was on a 2001 Valkyrie. No windshield on that hotrod. Three younger friends were going to escort this 'old man' and give me support. I was the only one to complete the ride. The others had a bike with a primary chain that broke, one gave up, and one bisected a Rottweiler at 1:00 am in the morning just southeast of Cleburne, Texas.
I now have a 2012 Goldwing (55th bike?). I've done 700-900 mile days on rides out into west Texas, up across Oklahoma into Arkansas, and back. But at 70, most of my rides are under 500 miles a day. Most folks won't ride with me. I ride in 110 degree weather, 20 degree weather, and blinding thunderstorms. I've been riding right at 60 years now. When my wife rides with me, we seldom do more than 200-350 in a day. She likes to stop and do tourist stuff. I like to twist the throttle and make this planet spin beneath me. ;)
1500 mi on a 250 in 23 hrs? Only a member of the USMC could do that!
Man! You guys are tough!
I found the motorcycle legend...! Hat offs.
That’s awesome. I’m planning my first long trip from Fort Worth Tx to Johnstown Co on my Suzuki sfv650. As soon as I get some mechanical things taken care of and new rubber I’ll be heading out northwest.
@@burnerjack01 I wasn't a Marine. I was a USN Corpsman. My Marines took good care of me, though.
I rode from Bethesda, MD on my Yamaha rd250b to Gatlinburg and back. It took me 3 days each way.
If you rode 700-plus miles on back roads you are the man sir!
Did you just assume his gender?!?! JK JK. Kevin is the man it's amazing he doesn't have a bigger following. support them on patreon!
It's not the miles, it's the hours.
Good point.
You're right.
steveXracer your butt doesn't care if it is on the seat for 1-hour at a stoplight, or 1 hour at 55 mph. Gonna hurt the same regardless. That's my point.
I've found I can ride longer on twisty roads than straight. Moving around more on the seat.
An hour of buckled pavement and bumps on a ruined hot, sunny 4-lane is a lot worse than an hour on a smooth 2-lane on a curvy, shady back-road. Same hour; far different ride!
Hey there MCrider, back when I was a "young" Marine, riding from Mcas Yuma, up to the Bay Area, (where family is), wow, I logged so MANY MILES, even as a "Not so" experienced rider , back and fourth , back and fourth, chugging "viveran's" with Gatorade,,,,,,, and sometimes stopping for 2 cheese burgers, and one hamburger, at a McDonalds, (or some planters peanuts), for the "Fat content" so I wouldn't become hungry for hours, on the ride!!!!!!!!! I'm SO glad I'm older/wiser now! Get the rest first, eat light, drink lots of "WATER"> pure/CLEAN, and "ride..... like the WIND...."
Great advice,thanks Kevin. Another thing,make darn sure you get comfortable,excellent sleeping conditions on extended multi day tours. I also find that it is more comfortable to ride safely at a moderate pace,staying mostly in the right lane,than dodging in and out of traffic. Doing so reduces stress,which fatigues you earlier.
With regard to deer whistles. Deer whistles require vehicle speed of at least 35 mph to produce a sound. For more than 10 yrs, I have had a Hornet XP-3 Deer avoidance device on all of my motors. It is a 12v, 120 dB variable frequency resonator which bounces a soundwave along the surface of the highway for up to a half a mile. I’ve had many instances on highways, the Blue Ridge Parkway, and here in east Tennessee where theHornet has stopped deer in their tracks and to look where the strange sound is coming from. I am a true believer in this device because I and my wife have experienced it working.The device comes in black or chrome finish & packaged with a fused wiring harness for a motorcycle or a car and a toggle switch. Most deer are used to & not intimidated by motor, horns & traffic sounds. This device produces an abnormal sound, arresting their attention. When stopped at a light, you can hear the device. Once underway, wind & engine noise drown the sound for the driver. They can be purchased at Amazon for less than $100. Devices are available for motorcycle/auto & 18 wheelers. Wonderful device. Check it out.
Hi Kevin! I rode on the highway for the first time yesterday. I was so excited to start using my new skills. I felt comfortable and in complete control. Couldn't say that a week ago. Thank you for caring so much about riders. It makes a difference to have great advice from seasoned riders like yourself. Thanks for the great videos. See you on the road!
I just bought a Airhawk, changed my motorcycle life... I am taller guy and it added what seems like more leg room in addition to other "features"...
Age is a major factor, when I was 18 I had a GS850 I road it from Del Rio, Tx to Lee’s Summit, Mo in one day.
At 55, a few hundred miles.
The Air-hawk seat with the Alaska Sheepskin buttpad makes a huge difference making that extra hundred miles down the road! A great combination together!
Personal best is 1250 in one day. Not a good idea. Got home and slept for 3 days straight. Literally got up, bathroom, water, pass out. DO NOT RECOMMEND!!!!!! On regular trips I do from 400-800 miles a day. I dont ride at dawn or dusk (or after dark) due to animals in the roadway. If you make frequent short stops, and dont take long breaks, 800 miles a day is pretty doable if the weather cooperates.
One really bad situation is that if you haven’t planned a time/distance end of day, riding until you feel like stopping potentially puts you in a position of making important safety decisions when you are impeded by fatigue.
Hey Kevin,
I am the newest rider on your site. I say that because I have not yet purchased my very first bike! I am so glad that I found your site prior to my purchase. I would have spent my whole budget on the bike and not had enough money for the proper safety equipment. But, you have changed my mind not just on the bike and safety equipment but on the practice regimen as well. I am really excited to get into this right and hopefully avoid mishaps due to bad safety and strategy habits. So thanks for speaking directly to guys like me, it is appreciated.
Rode from Fort Worth Texas to New York to Florida and back to Texas in one weekend. I went 1,200 miles the initial stretch stopping for gas only. Won’t do it ever again lol
I've never ridden long miles other than 640 miles from Narbonne in France to Almeria in Southern Spain. It was a great Spring time ride along the Mediterranean highway. The spoiler was the side wind the whole way down on a full fairing bike with tank and pillion bag. I handled like a sail board and required lots of counter steering to stay off the armco. Most of my riding now is jollying around on a Fat Bob with a custom seat that looks awesome but cripples me after 150 miles. I live in the UK but dream of touring in the USA sometime before I'm too old to get my leg over the saddle. I watched your blog about touring and route maps and all and it was really thought provoking. Thank you for the great work Kevin. All your advise is well thought and the lessons are easy to follow and stay with me on my tootling around on out pot holed washed out roads over here. Believe me, when you ride a bike in the UK staying out of A&E depends on having 360 degree vision and good road strategy.
Decided to go from Utah to Oklahoma to see my dad for a few days and it was 900 miles, so I planned to split it up in two days and overnight in a campground. I drove backroads all the way and when I arrived where I wanted to overnight, it was threatening rain all night so I decided to keep going. I ended up driving through a couple of T-storms but eventually did the 900 miles all in one day. I was surprised at how easy it seemed and I did not feel too bad the next day either. Since I did so well on that trip, I decided a few days later to travel from OK to northern MN where my wife was attending a newly born grandchild. That was another 1088 miles which I did divide up in two days since I had a lot of rain along the way. Then I was faced with the 1400 mile ride home. I set out to ride all backroads and ended up doing two 700 mile days. The second day was definitely harder but I enjoyed the whole trip and would do it again in a heartbeat. I ride a Victory Vision and that may be considered cheating. 😀
I’ve ridden Alaska, across the Sahara Desert w my wife, to key West, etc. and did the TAT in 2017 w 2 of our sons and I LOVE the joy of machine, exploration, fellowship w guys In a group, and the beauty of creation. With THOSE components, 300 miles is usually PLENTY for a day. Do the 100 miles of Big Sur coast and you need a full day. A BIG thing that is crucial is SLEEPINESS. If you ride enough, you’ll have moments, especially when it’s HOT, where you can get overwhelmingly sleepy! Riding sleepy is true danger. Find a picnic table or a shade tree. A half hour is like a tank of gas.
Around 400 and I'm done. My bladder isn't what it used to be so I plan comfort stops more often. There's nothing worse than thinking I'll just do another few miles then you Have to stop! I guess vibration makes a difference too. When I had a Z1300 six, though smoother, found the high frequency vibes more annoying than my current lumpy twin. For long runs particularly on a naked bike, I ride a little slower, mile after mile of wind blast I find wearing but knocking 10mph off helps.
Must say that my old Goldwing was the bees knees at high mileage, never had anything more comfortable since!
I have 2 road kings and have logged many miles on both. I recently completed an iron butt ride on my 2017 RK. I have an Airhawk seat pad and really like it. It works the best with very little air in it. I over inflated it the first time I used it. Also the way I use it is to put it off and on the bike several times during a long trip. It changes the pressure points and it allows so.e air flow under your butt as you ride.
Kevin, regarding AirHawk seat cushions: I have lost count of the number of thousand-plus mile days that I have ridden...ALL of them with an AirHawk seat cushion between my stock seat and my behind. Let me state that I am in no way affiliated with AirHawk I am an Iron Butt Back-to-Back 1500+ mile day finisher (in the IBA, what is known as Bun Burner Gold 3000 -- 3000-plus miles in under 48 hours. That's two 1500+ mile days back-to-back. That was on a stock Yamaha FRJ1300 seat...and an AirHawk- R.. I also use a BeadRider seat (as my everyday commuting and any 'long' rides that are under 700 miles in a day). So, in general, I keep BeadRider on the bike all the time, except when I'm going to do more than 700 miles in the day-and that's when I swap out the BeadRider for the AirHawk. One piece of advice I can provide to anyone who is thinking about trying one: the AirHawk works best when the bladders (I think AirHawk refers to them as 'air cells') are BARELY FILLED WITH ANY AIR IN THEM. (The AirHawk involves blowing air into a tube (to fill the internal bladders). You'll occasionally hear an AirHawk owner comment that it feels too bouncy or that they tend to slip off one way of the other. Well, that's because they're over inflating the internal bladders. With proper inflation of its bladders, the AirHawk simply cannot be beat when it comes to maintaining a comfortable behind/seat for long-distance motorcycling. And, in my opinion, the BeadRider can't be beat for short and intermediate-distance comfort. I have used both the AirHawk and the BeadRider on my last 3 motorcycles (Kawasaki KZ1000, Honda ST1000, and, currently, Yamaha FJR1300) with total combined mileage of over 400,000 miles (since 2007). After years of trying various after-market' seats-- including most of the top-branded ones--I concluded that none of those provided me more comfort than the (roughly) $120 AirHawk (for long) or the $65 BeadRider (for everyday and mid-distance) riding. I hope this information helps you and your viewers, Kevin...and keep up the great work (you are a true asset to the motorcycling community). Thank you so much!
-D Goguen
Iron Butt Member 32895
Bun Burner Gold 3000 finisher
P.S. - Kevin, beyond our love of motorcycling (which is obvious), you and I share something in common: Like you, I have monocular vision, as I am completely blind in my left eye (due to an accident involving a tree branch while doing gardening work!). The accident didn't stop me from continuing in the saddle (that was three years ago). I've done 3 more IBA rides since then.
Why do you use the BeadRider for shorter rides? Why not use the AirHawk all the time? I'm also a big fan of that seat.
Steven Whitman - I do a lot of aggressive 'short rides' on twisty mountain roads, and the BeadRider--being an even layer of (virtually) frictionless porcelain beads--is much easier to slide on and shift around on in the saddle when leaning into the curves (as compared to doing so with the AirHawk). Also, the BeadRider provides a little better airflow than the AirHawk does (although the AirHawk is also very good in that respect). So, in general, I do prefer the overall feel and rideability of the BeadRider over the AirHawk except in one area: when I'm doing LONG rides. When it comes to doing longer rides, my behind will almost always begin to feel somewhat sore on the BeadRider after about the 13th or 14th hour into the ride. With the AirHawk, I don't have that problem. I guess my butt bones, after sitting that many hours on the BeadRider, finally succumb to the 'hardness' of the beads whereas they are very content given the 'softness' of the cushy, air-filled rubber cells of the AirHawk. The first time that I experienced the discomfort on the BeadRider after about 700 miles into a 1000+ mile ride, I stopped and put on the AirHawk (which ate up some valuable time) and I was fine after that for the remainder of the ride. So, after having gone through that experience, I promised myself not to start any REALLY LONG rides with the BeadRider on the saddle; for LONG RIDES, the AirHawk results in less fatigue for me.
david goguen lmao 1500 mile day yeah right
Curt o In the Iron Butt Association, a certified (meaning, witnesses and gas receipts, each clearly showing location, time, and date) of 1500 miles in under 24 hours; it's called a Bun Burner Gold. You can read about it here: www.ironbutt.com/themerides/bbgold/
Amen to the Airhawk II.
Doesnt take much air.
My first bike was a drz400. After about 2 hours the stock seat was downright painful. With an airhawk I could ride it all day long no problem. Those things absolutely work.
AirHawk promised to extend my miles, and they did not disappoint. I was on a Heritage and would be in TOTAL pain after about 300 miles - first trip on an Airhawk - 650!!! crazy stuff!
On another note, Kevin you are right (for me), the holiday starts as I pull out of the garage -so, whether it is 300 or 1200, they are all good days. You alluded to it - are you out to ride, or are you out to get somewhere. Bottom line, only ride for as long as it is fun!
(IBA Mile Eater)
I rode from SD to NC in 23 hrs. My dad rode the same distance from Canada to NC in the same time 23 hrs. Both trips about 1,100 miles. He fell asleep and woke up going down a row in a peach orchard in NC. Lucky he lived through that one. It is kind of a silly,macho thing to try. Dangerous. I felt like I held up well on my ride. But I was tired enough to sleep on rocks beside a trout stream,in broad daylight afterwards. Keep riding fun. 2 or three hundred miles in a day is plenty for me now. ;)
A great trick to help stay mentally awake is to make sure you change velocities even if very slightly and also alternate lane positions or lanes themselves if there are multiple travel lanes. That seems to help me.
The Air Hawk is great. My recollection is that the company started by making pads for folks in wheel chairs who are sitting all day long every day. The key is to put hardly any air in the bladder - else you will feel like you're sitting on a basket ball and can't stay put where you want to be on the seat. When I started off the first time, I slid back on the seat which caused me to roll on the throttle and this nearly resulted in a wheelie - none of which was my intent. Start with no air and add a little at a time until the sliding sensation first begins and then let a little air out.
The air hawk is a great addition to a long multiday ride. Just a couple cautionary thoughts. Do not over inflate the air hawk because that destroys its comfort capacity. Also as the air hawk is inflated, you raise the effective seat height of the motorcycle which impacts your handling of the motorcycle at slow speeds. Lessons learned over 7000 mile cross country trip.
just did 763 miles from the hotel we stayed at in Deadwood, SD to my door in Northern Minnesota in one day. I don't think i'll be doing that again anytime soon. The heat is what got me.
Hoo wee!
Tomorrow I will tale my vstrom 650 on my first long trip.. 400miles; your video is real help.
I forgot to mention about staying awake on long rides. Of course, frequent stops is recommended, and I keep a yoga pad on the bike for naps at rest areas. I discovered as we were riding in Ouray CO, they sold oxygen bottles to us seaside dwellers to help breath in the high altitudes. We bought an extra bottle and coming back thru the flat long stretches of Texas, taking a hit of oxygen really helps perk you up so you can avoid those Jackalopes.
Hey Kev! 1st thing I want to share is - nothing that "extent" the comfort zone/time is good. The natural need for a brake it the best alert you can have. Any kind of artificial extension of this period is asking for trouble - your availability for keeping mind in focus is getting lower dramatically fast. So - do the stops, and rest. There is no prostatic for that!
Kevin, thank you for your dedication to MCRider! I look forward to the video every Friday, and have viewed most of your older videos.
The Air Hawk works pretty well by making the seat a bit more comfortable and elminating "boat butt" due to lack of air flow. It only takes a small amount of inflation to make a significant difference. I keep a container of Robertson's beef jerky (from your neck of the woods) on my bike for lunch, since I have a tendency to get very sleepy after eating a meal and then riding. I don't drink coffee or energy drinks, but sometimes use a caffeine tablet if I get drowsy. If that doesn't do the trick, it is time to pull over for some shut eye. A cool vest also helps for riding long distances in the heat. It doesn't take up much room and makes the ride much more pleasant.
Hi Kevin I watch you regularly you do a great job. I’ve had a air hawk for over 5 years they are fantastic. I’ve replaced the cover last year the bladder is still fine . They are definitely the way to go . Cost was about $ 150 here in Canada . Cheers Tom .
I totally agree about the Bluetooth in the helmet. I have a Spotify account so I created my own playlist. I also wear ear plugs. It reduces the wind noise and I can actually hear my music better at a lower volume even. I have only been on short rides so far 150-200 miles. I ride with the H.O.G. Group out of Orlando. Some of them are also instructors at Harley-Davidson. They have given me some good tips over the past year. Be safe out there and have fun.
Most importantly you have to listen to your body. I rode Texas to California a 4 day run. 1st day I rode 6oo miles, brunt my self out! 2nd-4th day I road 5oo miles per day. I stoped every 100 miles got a Gator-Aid every other stop and gas at every stop. One more thing put new tires on your bike before you do a longe run. I blew a rear tire doing 80mph! Got stuck in Tuson AZ for 3 days. But get out and ride while you still can. I tell this story and ppl look at me as "The man!" Keep the rubber side up road dog!
170 miles on a honda shadow vt125 using A roads in the UK. I have a cruise control pad on throttle and a lamb skin cover on the original seat. Those 2 items make all the difference. On plates so no boring motorways for me. Keep up the good work Kevin 😊
i use a sheep skin cover on long rides too. helps with air flow and comfort .
I recently began using my Bose noise canceling ear buds under my full face helmet on my 04 Wide Glide. They make a ton of difference in the impact on my hearing and allow for quality music or books. Highly recommend.
Great topic. I'm glad you brought it up. I just finished a two-day trip from Hillsboro, Oregon to Reno Nv going over Mt Shasta.. Trip going was 604 miles and the return I took a different road through Klamath Falls Oregon. 596 miles.. 1200 miles in all. after the 604 mile ride I was soar.. wishing I didn't go so far. But I had to return...LOL
I was riding a 2002 ZRX1200r.. Great bike with tons of power and smooth .. but not the best for Long rides.. also Im 62 years old. Not young by any means..
Did 675 kilometers on a 1985 CB650SC. I couldn't get up from the seat without terrible pain. Then changed the seat to a custom seat. Big difference after.
I follow a time pattern, of 90-105 minute segments when riding very long distances and highways. I'll shorten the segments for more challenging roads. I do four segments a day.
1st segment: then 20 minute break
2nd segment: then hour break
3rd segment: then 40 minute break
4th segement: done for the day.
If I need to make up miles after fourth segment, there is a VERY liberal break, first. Usually at least 90 minutes.
My expected travel distance depends on speed limit and type of road, traffic, and weather conditions. I take what the elements give me. Don't fight the elements. You'll lose. Ride WITH the elements, and enjoy them; for that is what touring is all about.
I've ridden 700+ miles in a day in East TN, N Georgia to include Cherohala Skyway and 2 runs thru US129 tail of mythical fire spitting lizard .
Interstate 1158 in 19.5 hours. Stopped to watch fireworks , 4th of July Memphis, ate 2 sit down meals ( waffle House one, diner other) I even paid for a car wash in Missouri at 4a.m.I didn't know I did . No tunes , no music . I wasn't exhausted when I got there. Felt fine.
For me, the limiting factor is always the SEAT!
When I was 23 years old I got a insurance settlement and I was out of town working as a Rodbuster when the check came and I hopped in the car and drove 1000 miles from Richmond Virginia to Jellico Tennessee then cashed the check bought a 1996 Kawasaki ZX750RR and turned around and rode it right back the next day. I left Tennessee at 12 and it took me to 4am to get there my hand where so numb I couldn’t even sign in at the motel. I took the long way around through West Virginia and I would do 120mph for a while then slow down until I got the ok from a trucker I would pull up next to them and make the siren 🚨 sign with my hand and they would get on the CB and give me a thumbs up or down then I would take off again doing 120-130mph. Hell I was packing 3 ounces of good old KY bud in my backpack and a bunch of pain pills and had about $5k on me man I never felt as free as I did that day the first 500 miles was glorious then I just wanted it over and had to start taking more breaks. I’m 40 years old now and I couldn’t do that again if my life depended on it to far and that bike was to rough but I was young and dumb and full of something then 😂
Hi Kevin, been using a airhawk seat cushion for the last nine years, wouldn't leave home without it, secret is to keep the air pressure low so the cells fill with air to relieve pressure points on one's butt. They work, get home from a long ride, no numb butt. No I'm not associated with airhawk in any way, it's a great product.
Did about 1100 in a little under 24 and the other 400 just before the 36 hour mark. 35.53 to be exact.
My buddy and I road from Port Saint Lucie Florida to Hicksville NY in 23 hrs. That was 12yrs. Ago when I was 60yrs. Old on a 2001 Harley Ultra Classic. That was 1,100 miles. I’m now 72 so I I think was my last trip like that. Now the most I do is 500 tops and I’m hurting the next day. My mind wants to but my body says No. I very much enjoy your channel
I’m on my third seat on my HD Road Glide Ultra. Currently I’m using my Mustang seat. By far the most comfortable for me. Plus I had my shocks changed out to Legends. That made a big difference too. But - I like to average 500/day. Frequent breaks in-between.
People make fun of me for buying a Tri Glide but I had one fellow biker sit on my bike and said, "Go ahead. Tell me that's not the most comfortable bike you ever sat on." He was very appreciative of the sheer comfort of the seat. I plan on going cross country so I went comfort all the way when I picked out my bike.
I listen to books on tape all the time on the ride. Get my best reading done that way.
My wife and I did 800 miles in day enduring heavy rain early in the day and then for the last hour heading into the hotel in Denver. She rode her Honda VTX 1300 and me on my Harley 883. Our best tip is to make an extra stop between gas stops. Use the on and off ramp shoulders to just get off the bike for 5 minutes. Breaking up the ride just enough to stretch the legs and give the butt a break goes a long way on a long day. Plus in Colorado and Utah the scenery is great even from Interstate 70. The Colorado River really has done some great work craving some excellent vistas.
All depends on how I feel that day. I have gone from western NY to Port Charlotte Florida. Took 3 days and was about 1,418 miles. Did a trip from Livingston Texas to Port Charlotte Florida to sell a Honda Shadow to a friend that was about 1.062 miles. Took me 3 days that time due to only feeling like riding for about 4 or 5 hours the first day. Then I bought my new bike in Tampa ( 2015 Triumph Thunderbird LT) that bike is so comfortable that it only took me 2 days to get back to Texas.
2002 harley softail, most I have done in one day is 615 miles. I could have gone further, but I was at my destination. Stopping for fuel every 125 miles or so helps. What beat me up was the sun, temp was in the 90's with no clouds, it got hot.
On extended days in the saddle a personal priority is staying hydrated. Many systems are available to aid the rider but simply carrying a quart of water on board is another option. On hot rides, a windproof jacket slows dehydration, although I've soaked myself at gas stops to get some relief from 100+ temps. Several times a year I will exceed 1000 miles for a day ride. Exercising on the bike is essential for me to avoid stiff muscles. Legs, arms, hands, posture -- all get stretched periodically. Changing position on the seat is a major help as well. BTW, thanks MCirder for all the pertinent videos and advice.
J E Cutler Iron Butt #70
You are solid! Thanks... Headed on a trip to see my son florida to Tybee Island and then to Nashville ( Blue Ridge Mountains) ... Thanks for your advice. I am taking my Triumph Scrambler... Thanks. This former Marine will have fun!
In North Dakota, the wind is a major factor in rider fatigue. In ND, the daytime wind-speed is consistently in the range of 15 mph to 25 mph, so for me, 350 to 400 miles is max. If I could ride in areas where the wind averages a breeze under 10 mph, I think I could do 700 miles a day. In fact, I might even attempt an "Iron Butt" ride. (1000 miles)
As others have stated the Air Hawk is the best when adjusted correctly. Many of MLS I have put on them with no failure of the air cushion. Over the years I have simply misplaced them.
I just last week took a trip back home to northern Indiana from Mobile, AL to visit family. It was just shy of 900 miles. On a long distance ride, I'm more of an Interstate rider, and especially when I'm limited on time (I had 6 days to make the trip and return). I broke it up into two days up and two days back, spending two days there with Mom and Dad. I broke it up doing approximately 2/3 of the distance on the first day on the Interstate, then took County and State roads on the second day to make it slightly more relaxed. As far as gear, don't forget your under garments. Not often talked about, but just as important. I prefer something with at least 80% or better Spandex-like material to dissipate heat and reduce moisture. And pay attention to where the seams fall! Hydration is also very key! I keep two water bottles within easy reach in my tour bag behind me and replace them at fuel stops. I've tried on several full-face helmets and I just can't seem to get comfortable with them... yet. Another limiting factor for me though is my back. My lower back to be specific. I was diagnosed (like so many) with degenerative disc disease a couple years ago, and after about 7-8 hours in the saddle it really starts to get sore. I can, and do, take some pain relievers, but I try to limit that.
I agree about the “tractor seat” I got a russel day long seat. I was concerned about the price of the seat, but I would pay the price again every time. Worth every penny!! 650 miles is my longest ride, so far, but time on saddle is just as important as distance. I spent 400 miles one day but I was riding for 18 hours and I contemplating selling it and buying a bus ticket home.
Great video Kevin.
More miles per day or longer saddle time?
To each... his or her own. Some riders, more than others, have a fixation on one over the other.
Personally, I just want to enjoy the ride, absorb the scenery and arrive safely at the next destination.
All your pointers are truly helpful. Another couple of points I would add are:
1. A good night's sleep before the ride and overnight stops, and,
2. Avoid binge drinking at all cost if intending to ride the following day.
Keep up the great informative videos Kevin.
1002 miles in July on 2003 Road King.....Buffalo, Wy to Bonney Lake, Wa - 15.5 hrs...hit Bonney Lake at 998.5 miles so continued around the area to finish it off...lol....and Im 60! Bucket list..CHECKED!
Instead of an AirHawk, I got a Purple "personal seat". It was less than $50 and makes a huge difference. The seat on my Softtail Street Bob looks nice but was sadistic for rides beyond about 1.5 hours. With the Purple I didn't feel as controlled as I might have liked for more intense riding, but in terms of covering more laid back miles it was great. For 1/10th of what the Harley Hammock would cost, it's a good alternative.
I like riding 200-250 miles a day when touring and I pull a pop up motorcycle camper, so trip planning is important to find camping spots, I have a friend who trailers his bike behind his motor home , drives 250 miles stops and camps unloads the bike and spends 4-6 days and rides the bike 200 miles to all points of the compass,then moves 250 miles does all over , I’m going to do this with my set up ,oh my friend and I are retired.
I have the Road Zeppelin seat from Harley on my Ultra Limited. It has 2 air bladders in the seat where the rider sits and one air bladder where the passenger sits and are adjustable via an internal electric air pump in the seat. By far the most comfortable seat for long hauls but like anything from Harley you will pay a price. I use an Airhawk on my Fatboy Lo and they are comfortable as well and priced right.
690 miles from Alabama to Oklahoma. Stayed a few days and return. Straight though both ways. I don't have a lot of riding gear but I come from a different background so when the comfort is gone I push and go anyways. Could have gone another couple of hundred more miles. Beaks are extremely important though. That and the right type of music.
Kevin, your suggestions are right on the money; Interstate for making time, two lanes for making memories. Switching to a full face helmet was a major improvement in comfort and making it further each day. Definitely going to check out the airhawk because no butt has enough padding for a long ride. I’ve done 1000 miles when it was necessary, but 300-500 seems the sweet spot for all around enjoyment. Love the videos. See you on the road.
My Kawi Vulcan, stick seat is amazing...
And I love the wind in my face... tons of miles....
Not for the weak...
Y'all, ride safe!
I use the airhawk system for my long trips. The only problem it has is that it sits me a bit higher than my windshield which messes up y comfort on the helmet. I get more buffeting.
I ride a Suzuki C90T.
I love all of your videos.
Cheers
I see that red tank in the background! Sad to see the Teneré go, but a new bike is always exciting. You’ll love that CP3 triple! I ride a Tracer and it always puts a smile on my face! Congrats!
Re. AirHawk seat cushions: I have one on my CB500F, for long journeys (e.g. London to Scotland, 500-600 miles in a day). The CB500F has a good stock seat but the AirHawk makes it even better. The trick is not to over-inflate it though, which can take a little getting right but once it's done it's done. Tip: if you'll be riding with a rucksack, set the cushion inflation while wearing the rucksack, as you'll be slightly heavier than when you're not wearing it.
I can also recommend active noise-cancelling earbuds to combine hearing protection with music to keep you alert. I use a pair of Audio-Technica ATH-ANC33iS with Comply memory foam tips. The Comply tips stop them moving around in your ear and make a good seal, and the earbuds are small enough for going under a helmet. One thing you have to watch for is the little control switch on the left earbud cable - sometimes you can squeeze it between your neck and jacket collar doing a lifesaver / shoulder check, which will do whatever you've set the button to do (e.g. pause the music or skip tracks). Position it right and it doesn't happen, or you could tape or glue something round it so you can't press the button.
The most I have ridden in one 24 hour day is 1624 Knoxville, TN to Lava Hot Springs ID. Russel Day long seat, 12 gallon aux fuel cell, a Camelback fill it with ice and a Stadium Pal. August 3 - 9 traveled from Louisville through Sturgis, Billings, Cody, Pikes peak total 4500 miles in 7 days took it easy only averaged 640 miles per day.
I'm 70 years old and don't have much "personal padding" on the back end. After 200 kms on my Intruder 1500 seat I would start to squirm. Adding an Air Hawk made all the difference as I can now reel off 500 km days no problem. I know that's not a lot of daily mileage, but I'm still fresh after I stop, so an Air Hawk is a terrific add on for me. Custom seats up here run $750 or more, so a $100 Hawk is a bargain for the comfort it provides. Just don't blow it up hard as that defeats the purpose of eliminating pressure points.
I second the two-lane roads vs. interstates. Unfortunately, as you pointed out, many small towns no longer have much for services. Often no restaurants and even no gas. However, apps like TripAdvisor and GasBuddy can help in that regard.
My stock LT seat was good for only 150-200 miles when I first got it, but that was wearing sliders jeans and regular cotton underwear. I switched to LDComfort riding shorts and added another 50-100 miles of comfortable riding. I added a BeadRider and that got me up to 350-400 miles depending on temperatures. I added an AirHawk under the BeadRider and found it helped a little, but wasn’t a game changer. I did a couple of back to back 550 mile days this past June and it wasn’t too bad. However, I am going to anty up for an RDL seat this winter, based on the many positive reviews I have read.
Great advice, Kevin. Weather can be a huge factor on how far you can ride. Riding in rain, heat, and cold can affect how far you can safely go. When planning trips, I use average 60 mph for the car, for the motorcycle I use 45 mph because of the time for stops. Thanks for the videos!
Riding Gear: I always wear form fit clothing. Nothing that sticks out an flaps in the wind, nothing that leaves my skin exposed to the sun or rain. I wear a leather suit for rode sport bikes but chhaps and a riding jacket work the same. I also wear water proof boots. rosk climbing boots are nice so are dirt bike boots. You can always take it off if its warm... I live in Alberta Canada warm is a luxury... and ride for an hour in your tee shirt. I have rain gear I carry always, so in an emergency i can continue even for a long ride in the rain. Riding is fun so I don't push myself. I rather carry a charge card than too much gear. Hope this helps someone.
Ride on a highway is not the same as ride on a curvy route. I live in the mountains an there is a curve after at least a mile. Miles and time is only a part of the question, but also the difficulty of the track
@steveXracer my point is, you can't compare miles. You ride 600 m in a day on a highway, but never ever on a mountain road. And if you ride 10 hrs on a highway, you can't compare it to ride 10 hrs on a curvy track. You need much more to concentrate. So the question, how many miles can you ride in a day can't be answered without defining the road type.
Airhawks are a major improvement for distributing pressure and reducing pain from a seat that does not fit the rider. The only downside I've found is they do give a little wobbly and disconnected feeling, compared to a very firm seat. Worth the money to find out if it's you or the seat.
Some good pointers. I wear either my molded ear buds or I have a good set of Sony ear buds. Helps block out wind noise, I can hear my music and GPS etc clear. Another thing I would add for those that are in really hot climates like Texas, Oklahoma and here in Fla. The current weather wicker type under garments. They help the lower region keep from getting really sweaty. I also found that wearing one of those type t-shirts vs a standard cotton shirt is night and day. I do not wear a jacket a lot, due to heat. On long rides you need sunscreen on exposed bits. So my arms are in sun light all the time, not a good thing for having skin cancer in past. So I bought a pair of the arm sleeve things. They are super, keeps sun off and if you get hot you can dump some water on them and it cools you right off.
Amen to the seat thing.
My Wide Glide factory seat was too narrow for the wife so I took it to an upholstery shop and had them widen it and cover the whole thing with a softer leather. Man what a difference. I have ridden from south WI to DC in one day, about 800 miles to take part in the rolling thunder event and one other time to Chattanooga, TN for the Trail of Tears, about 700 miles.
I always plan meal stops when I need gas which is about 170 to 185 miles. Depending on wind and if I'm moving to higher or lower elevations. I am on reserve at 185 and empty at 220. So if I don't need to pee, I just use the debit card and go. For food stops, I look for a restaurant near a gas station and order soup and sandwich. It comes fast and usually is not expensive. With a good windshield, goggles and protective jacket, even in hot weather, I am not exhausted when I arrive, but I have had good conditioning from my time in the military. For me, the goggles are necessary to prevent dry eyes and I cannot stand dust or grit in my eyes. Sunglasses might look cool but if they don't seal around the eyes, you are going to feel it. So even if it takes 14 hours, I can pitch the tent go find supper and be okay till maybe 9 or 10 oclock.
I cannot over stress the jacket in hot weather. The wind beats on you. If you wear a Tshirt because it's "too hot for a jacket" that wind is pounding on you and you don't realize it until you get off for gas and "Oh man, I'm tired. Why am I so tired?" Plus the wind sucks the moisture out of you and you can dehydrate.
I don't recommend anyone try that without first taking 400 and 500 mile trips to learn how effective your equipment is. A friend went to sleep on his motorcycle, ran off road and ended up in the ditch pretty banged up. Totaled his moto guzzi and all he got was one broken leg and numerous bruises. He was lucky, you might not be.
Many thanks for the great educational videos. I dare suggest you have saved hundreds of riders from disaster. Keep up the good work.
My first long trip on my Yamaha V-Star 1100 was misery... the seat did not fit me. I purchased an AirHawk II and it made all the difference in the world! I rode Run for the Wall - Central Route from Williams, AZ to Washington DC and back home again over 18 days had very little discomfort.
Great set of videos. Thanks for posting. Plus: A full faced helmet usually has less wind noise and is quieter, too.
Totally agree with listening music or books via Bluetooth. I really enjoying listening audiobook on my bike. I cant ride with nothing talking or playing in my ears. I went through countless audiobooks just because I ride.
I like the bead seat better than the airhawk. It doesn't feel loose and squishy but still allows good circulation...although I do stand up often on my adv bike.
About 500 interstate miles for me.
Bmw k12rs, laminar lip for wind deflection, bar backs for a more neutral position, airhawk II seat bladder , Shoei RF 1200, scala bluetooth paired to mp3 for lots of music plus an fm radio.
Tank bag bladder for water on the go.
Integrated cruise helps for moving the hands around to keep circulation.
Thank you for the advise on planning a long distance trip. I rode 2 times from Nairobi to my home town an 800Kms journey on 2 different types of bikes. A sport bike and an Adventure bike with same number of stops almost same weather. I noticed that it was comfortable to ride an Adventure bike for that distance . I arrived home less fatigued than on the Sport bike. Am still doing my research on the causes of the different fatigue levels i had. Keep up the good job.
I have an air hawk which I purchased after having abdominal surgery. It’s a great alternative to spending $500+ on an aftermarket seat. I’m also in the 300 miles category.
I am a new rider and bought an Air Hawk for my Vulcan S. I recently did around 260 in a day with it and once I got the pressure set in the Air Hawk it was amazing.
Good video and tips, frequent breaks is the key when I'm on the long haul. I'm on a touring bike now but I've logged many 1100km + days on different styles of bikes & almost always can put in "a bit more" after a couple of stretches and a little walk to get the blood moving.
Keeper safe out there ✌
Any physical therapist will tell you that touching your toes is only going to strain your back. To do your hamstrings when you take a break, use your head and just put your foot on something and do a gentle stretch forward from the hips.
Now that I'm almost 60 y.o. I limit myself to ~700 miles or 12 hours actual saddle time per day because my threshold for mental fatigue isn't what it was 40 years ago. I NEVER listen to audio of any form when riding... as a musician it's too distracting and the ride is enjoyment enough and provides ample mental stimulation. But for saddle comfort a firm flat seat like my Saddlemen tends to be more comfortable than my contoured Corbin that I have for my main touring bike which is a '98 Sportster sans fairing/windshield (I never liked either, I like the feeling of the wind).
As I age my bladder has me stopping more often LOL
The best thing(s) I did to turn my Heritage into an EasyBoy recliner was to get a seat with a backrest AND add 2" pullback risers so my arms were a little higher and my elbows had more bend while I am gripping the handlebars. I had backaches with the factory equipment, but no more! Thus the EasyBoy recliner joke. Our trips are usually about 200 miles per day (in the mountains of western NC/eastern TN. We stay at Iron Horse Motorcycle Lodge and always have a great time....in spite of the hailstorm we encountered this year on the BRP. And, to comment on the subject of this video, for us, it's the ride AND the destination. I rarely use my bike for commuting to work. Love riding in the mountains!
I agree, as soon as I put up the kickstand is when the vacation (or any other day) begins.
Also, I like music and books on my blue tooth
Just did 500 miles in two days down skyline drive and the upper section of Blue Ridge pkwy. Took hours speed limits are low and stopping for a few overlooks. Saturday was a 530 mile run in 7 hours with 3 fuel stops. So its definitely “time” more than miles in some cases. Oh and I run a mustang summit with an Alaska leather sheepskin on my limited.
Bought an Airhawk seat cushion. Blew it up to a comfortable level, installed it on the seat, tightened up the straps and set out. First stop, gentle stop, I slid forward an couple inches. Next corner, same thing. Third stop, yup, almost slid onto the tank. I thought, man, this is dangerous! Turned around, went home, removed it and returned it. Didn't work for me at all.
I've got a Triumph Thunderbird LT with one of the best seats in the business. An easy ride for me would be 500 miles. But you're right Kevin, taking breaks does help. Even if it's just to check the maps and make sure you're heading in the right direction. Love ya videos. Great work.
Just made a trip from Southern Illinois to Atlanta with a overnight stop in the Nashville area. Fatigue did not come from riding but from all the semi trailers that are on the interstate these days. Usually ride between 70-80 mph and the number of semi trailers and double semi trailers passing me was unbelievable. My true test of being alert was dealing with the trucks on the climb and decent around Knoxville/Chattanooga interstate 24-75. Of course fatigue sets in real quick in all the construction zones and the stop and go traffic around the Atlanta area (285). Next time, I will have to plan more travel time and stick to some two lane back roads and enjoy the ride more. Great video and tips!
On older bikes where the pillion pegs are about the same height as the rider pegs I used to use both swapping around perhaps hourly. Doing this gave a completely different riding position and helped heaps over long days.
I tend to start slouching after a little while and I occasionally have to remind myself to "sit up straight" (like our moms used to say 😄). So, posture I believe is a big factor.
Also, there are days when we can go all day, and days when a few hours is the limit. It depends on a lot of factors. However, I've enjoyed every hour and every mile. Cold wet sunny warm dry day night, it's all great !
I have found that if you have a bike where you can adjust the suspension it is important to make it more comfortable as opposed to sport or touring. If you have a newer bike with semi-active suspension set it to a softer setting if you have manual I adjust the knob so it's softer for long rides. Some towns have some pretty bad roads the softer damping will lower fatigue less punishment on your back and less impact on areas such as your butt
Around 150 and I'm done . I had my left knee replaced a few months ago ; that sets a person back in many ways :(
Not sure how many more 2 wheeled miles I have left in me.
Earplugs = 👍
For me it’s about the seat time. I’m good for about 16-17 hours Whether that’s 350 or 1100 miles a day it’s all the same. All right a Honda ST 1300 in the airhawk cushion was a game changer. Let me ride from 6 to 700 miles a day to11 with absolutely no side effects Such as back issues. And you’re absolutely right about the Bluetooth I can switch to phone calls ,books on tape music or podcasts all in the same trip and time seems to fly bye