I'm just happy you happen to have the opportunity to get to even attempt this project. With proper safety as this is paramount doing the community a huge service. no more ewaste if you can recycle even just one.
I think this Must be one of the top questions asked. I ended up getting a ton of battery from a local repair shop in exchange for recycling all the laptops I stole batteries from.
One thought about sourcing cells from recycling and old laptops: Those cells most likely have gone through quite a few charge cycles already and probably don't have the storage capacity they once did, so using the factory specs for them may be optimistic. The only way to know for sure is to stress test it.
Dude I called you like 30 times so I kept calling,, now at at your front door, I can see you through the glass, stop playing like your not in...... Joking of course.
another good source for cels could be old medical hardware and machine that need cycling every 6 month as they will end up with mass of packs that cant be used in any equipment but are basicly brand new packs
Nice :D My local dump doesn't want to and every place I ask refuse ( pc recycler sais that I don't have the certification to carry 'dangerous chemicals' ) Really irritating :( so I have no access to cells ( I'm belgian btw ;D )
+BillTheBox There has to be a way. There always is maybe you need to be persistent or give them something they need money, time, etc. Get a dangerous chemicals license & start your own recycling thing happening if that's possible.
+HBPowerwall I teach for free at a local place, and they have had their ( my ) request refused by the brussels administration ( both for a license and a simple request to pick some up ) But I imagine I could buy them off places like ebay as chinese sellers don't seem to care much about rules and regulations They also refuse any kind of other recuperation down to the local stores that all have sent me flying just wondering too : when you wire the 18650's like that in parallel aren't you worried the small amount of extra resistance over the length of the bus bar add up to some sort of small imbalance ? I see it would me minor, but I thought that maybe hooking up the bus bars on opposite sides would negate this problem ( i'm not that worried though as it seems to be a common setup )
i think the places in your country just dont understand how they work usually the smaller computer repair shops are more willing to sell or even give away for free dead laptop battery packs get a few smaller shops in your loop and you should have a steady supply of cells no stupidly expensive lisences needed
You have to get them before they are declared waste. There is a ton of legislation which applies as soon as a battery pack is delared waste and carried to a dump or recycler. Check places which would buy a dead notebook, they usually buy them only for the display and other replacement parts, and ask them for untested old battery packs.
Probably a directive which has to be adopted by each country individually. The consequences of the german legislation where criticized in media. When you see something nice in the electrical waste bin at a recycling site, they are not allowed to hand it to you.
1st, Wow amazing! 2nd im just starting out and wanting to go big eventually but wanting to start in the right direction with everything including panels, controllers, either build battery banks like you have or buy? i love building things just new to this. 3. im aware solar equipment can add up and im basically not wanting to waste money on 100% of the learning process 4. example of your banks vs something like forklift batteries, l16, golf cart, lifepo4 batteries how many of your powerwall sections would be equal to a forklift type set up or how many forklift batteries to equal what you have im ok you have probably been asked this a million times but how would these stack up against these different types and have you tried comparisons etc...? any help in the right direction is much appreciated ps ive watched so many of your videos and love them all! i have a condition that makes me forget or remember so i have to keep watching them over and over and taking notes from here out! thanks for all the time it takes to put these together! i can remember that lol Thanks again Dean
Fantastic info... good you're sharing all that and getting all these RUclips comments and phone calls answered with this video! I my need to do the same here... I'm spending my holidays replying million comments here hahahaha.... =]
+ElectricBike (Bruno) Thanks bud, one good part about not doing too much with YT for a fortnight is extra time haha - not complaining cause i love the interaction - but it doesn't pay the bills :)
Hi, Pete, Knowing you pulled the cells out from dead and or fubar laptop batteries, I have to ask. How in the world did you get them all the same color? Some of the 18650 battery banks shown on youtube look like a bowl of M&Ms-they're all different colors! Just wondering.... Mike
Wanting it to look professional plays a part also early on I got lucky with a massive batch of Blue Samsung cells after that I just collected them, swapped with other local powerwallers, also people donated some. My packs are only blue on the outside, on the inside it's just a mixed bag of cells :)
Get on the phone, call all your local computer places, hardware stores, government offices, put adds up in local free sites etc you just have to ask and ask - one day some random person will go - sure I have a box full :) it's taken me quite some effort.
Hello power master I am building the same big battery like you but now it's almost finished I have some problem how it is loading I want to buy a sma sunny boy storage 2.5 but it needs bms now my project is almost finished I stock to this problems please help me what to do
You going to have to ask SMA can't help sorry. Everything I have learned good bad or evil has been from youtube and google search. Good luck & thanks for tuning in
wondering if any cells still available. i'm in brisbane at least once a week. is it possible to buy a 100 or so cells at a time depending on availability? thanks Glen
Yeah, I don't see why people don't just buy the cells like these www.ebay.com/itm/100-LG-18650-2200MAH-LGAAS31865-CELLS-LITHIUM-ION-BATTERIES-POWERWALL-EBIKE-EV/173034805076?hash=item2849ad9754:g:RsUAAOSw0A9aNDDT seems like a much better deal. I think the secret got out and people drove up the price. that seems like a better deal though
Hi guy I have a 24v 5ah battery pack for my electric bike. I want to build a 24 volt 20ah or so, where can I go to for me to learn how to put one together. Is there an online school? or books that I can purchase.
Hi i ame gonna build a 60v 15ah battery from 2500mah batterys for my e-scooter. I still feel a bit nervous about it. I was wondering could u help me to make drawings for it? I have only 25x30x8cm space that it should fit. If u could help me with this so i dont kill my self:D It would be awsome! Like your videos by the way
Can any one please tell me does fake Opus-BT-C3100 clones exist as I am ordering 2 from ebay. Cannot fine anyware comparison about fake Opus-BT-C3100 clones.
+Jayme Capurso i've heard that story a few times, maybe its just because I own a computer business .. might ask that question tomorrow when i go to pick up my other 500 packs of batteries.
Hey don't think for a second that i ain't dumb!!!! I'm a blind bloke in a brothel - just feeling my way around. Maybe becaues i have a ABN don't know,. Are you in Australia?
ha, I saw all the pc's only a madman or someone desiring to go mad would deal with them for a living :) Yeah, Im in Adelaide, battery world said 'maybe' and that they would 'get back to me'. Over regulated Australia strikes again! Which goes double for the nanny state.
It's possible i'm mad, TV's Computers, XBOX, Playstation - and any phone we can get parts for we fix or at least try too.. been mad for 16yrs so far. haha
small world.. spoke with Nick, and Joel this morning, apparently Chris just gave you a bunch of batteries recently.. I like your channel.. you've done well.. am interested in building my own now.. have been watching jehugarcia channel as well..
I have access to several of these type cells www.mouser.com/ds/2/315/Panasonic_NiMH_HHR450A-182839.pdf would it be worth my while to attempt a powerwall?
17670 cells by the looks and sure they would workfine - infact most people like myself give those cells back to the recyclers, i've had hundreds of them
i mean it is dangerous to use old cells from laptops. You have different mAh, different cycles. It will be quit better if you use the same cells. The same capacity, same voltage, sme cycle life etc etc- And you get cheap good industral cells for only 2.50 EUR per each cells and thats abslout new ones.
I have many (too many) surveillance cameras wifee can pick off the footage upload the footage of my demise and make a billion youtube dollars from my stupidity :) IT, .....shall be my legacy!
DIY Tesla PowerWall What do you know about the solid state battery? Is it commercially available? Also I saw an article about using Na (Salt or Sodium), instead of Li. Just cant remember the details...I remember the bit about it being a lot cheaper. Have you come across Na in a gel battery?
This is BS where is my recycler place that gives/sells them out?! I have contacted many battery recyclers and they NO NOT SELL SHIT. in fact the ONLY place I got mine were ebay and scrap yard
there is a small computer repair shop a few hundred metres down the road that gives dead battery packs to me for free (the owner says he has to pay to get them recycled so im doing him a favor) i can usually get 2-4 packs per fortnight out of him
Holy battery count batman!!! looks factory done top job mate. thumbs up!
+off grid kid thanks mate
so whats the Avg rate of ones you use that are above 2,300. since I can get ones that are about 2,400-2,600 amp ones 100% for $4.50
I'm just happy you happen to have the opportunity to get to even attempt this project. With proper safety as this is paramount doing the community a huge service. no more ewaste if you can recycle even just one.
thank you
I think this Must be one of the top questions asked. I ended up getting a ton of battery from a local repair shop in exchange for recycling all the laptops I stole batteries from.
Yep i still get asked 10x a day..
One thought about sourcing cells from recycling and old laptops: Those cells most likely have gone through quite a few charge cycles already and probably don't have the storage capacity they once did, so using the factory specs for them may be optimistic. The only way to know for sure is to stress test it.
And your totally right and stress they are getting :) And handing it with out an issue so far.
heya watching and learning
Dude I called you like 30 times so I kept calling,, now at at your front door, I can see you through the glass, stop playing like your not in......
Joking of course.
+Bear304inc1 *Puts pants back on*
@@HBPowerwall hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahha :'D
Fortunately you can get brand new LG cells for a buck a cell on eBay a lot of the time now.
True :)
where? i Been searching for ages. I only need a small power bank at this stage. so i'm not after thousands of cells.
Where???
Wow, look like i need to be persistent in getting these cells. Tq for da info mate.
+Luqman Radzuan were you in my workshop today buying cells?
another good source for cels could be old medical hardware and machine that need cycling every 6 month as they will end up with mass of packs that cant be used in any equipment but are basicly brand new packs
Yep, had a mate just pick up 100's of 10ah 12v batteries from a hospital don't know how he will use them but i'm sure it'll be entertaining :)
+HBPowerwall wish I was lucky enough to find bargains like that
Nice :D
My local dump doesn't want to and every place I ask refuse ( pc recycler sais that I don't have the certification to carry 'dangerous chemicals' )
Really irritating :( so I have no access to cells ( I'm belgian btw ;D )
+BillTheBox There has to be a way. There always is maybe you need to be persistent or give them something they need money, time, etc. Get a dangerous chemicals license & start your own recycling thing happening if that's possible.
+HBPowerwall I teach for free at a local place, and they have had their ( my ) request refused by the brussels administration ( both for a license and a simple request to pick some up )
But I imagine I could buy them off places like ebay as chinese sellers don't seem to care much about rules and regulations
They also refuse any kind of other recuperation down to the local stores that all have sent me flying
just wondering too : when you wire the 18650's like that in parallel aren't you worried the small amount of extra resistance over the length of the bus bar add up to some sort of small imbalance ? I see it would me minor, but I thought that maybe hooking up the bus bars on opposite sides would negate this problem ( i'm not that worried though as it seems to be a common setup )
i think the places in your country just dont understand how they work
usually the smaller computer repair shops are more willing to sell or even give away for free dead laptop battery packs
get a few smaller shops in your loop and you should have a steady supply of cells
no stupidly expensive lisences needed
You have to get them before they are declared waste. There is a ton of legislation which applies as soon as a battery pack is delared waste and carried to a dump or recycler. Check places which would buy a dead notebook, they usually buy them only for the display and other replacement parts, and ask them for untested old battery packs.
Probably a directive which has to be adopted by each country individually. The consequences of the german legislation where criticized in media. When you see something nice in the electrical waste bin at a recycling site, they are not allowed to hand it to you.
There's so many different cells we need a website just for trading the batteries we've harvested.
www.secondlifestorage.com :P
1st, Wow amazing!
2nd im just starting out and wanting to go big eventually but wanting to start in the right direction with everything including panels, controllers, either build battery banks like you have or buy? i love building things just new to this.
3. im aware solar equipment can add up and im basically not wanting to waste money on 100% of the learning process
4. example of your banks vs something like forklift batteries, l16, golf cart, lifepo4 batteries how many of your powerwall sections would be equal to a forklift type set up or how many forklift batteries to equal what you have
im
ok you have probably been asked this a million times but how would these stack up against these different types and have you tried comparisons etc...?
any help in the right direction is much appreciated
ps ive watched so many of your videos and love them all! i have a condition that makes me forget or remember so i have to keep watching them over and over and taking notes from here out!
thanks for all the time it takes to put these together! i can remember that lol
Thanks again Dean
my diy powerwall is about to be connected to my solar for charging...wish me luck...lol
+hacky2008 get it done man ! then paint some flames on it !!!!!
im refitting the system as we speak ish..lol..will update you. what could possibly go wrong...
+hacky2008 Don't hide it share away!!!.
refit is all done will be adding the powerwall tommorrow..:)
i assume he/she died while doing it?^^
Well said Pete 👍
hehe
I asked on local buy and sell groups to acquire my laptop batteries
Good place to look.
Thanks. Where do you get your black battery holders that hold the cells together?
Bunch of helpful stuff kept on this page for you :) www.diypowerwalls.com/t-HBPowerwall-Offical
robviolin1 You are lazy
nice project..
someday i'll make one.
txu
Thank-You
Fantastic info... good you're sharing all that and getting all these RUclips comments and phone calls answered with this video! I my need to do the same here... I'm spending my holidays replying million comments here hahahaha.... =]
+ElectricBike (Bruno) Thanks bud, one good part about not doing too much with YT for a fortnight is extra time haha - not complaining cause i love the interaction - but it doesn't pay the bills :)
Hi, Pete,
Knowing you pulled the cells out from dead and or fubar laptop batteries, I have to ask. How in the world did you get them all the same color? Some of the 18650 battery banks shown on youtube look like a bowl of M&Ms-they're all different colors!
Just wondering....
Mike
Wanting it to look professional plays a part also early on I got lucky with a massive batch of Blue Samsung cells after that I just collected them, swapped with other local powerwallers, also people donated some. My packs are only blue on the outside, on the inside it's just a mixed bag of cells :)
You cover them in new heatshrink tubing, which you can buy on a roll.
HBPowerwall what Samsung cells are the purple ones or what are your fav? Most reliable ect?
Where do you get the plastic battery holders?
4 x 20's amzn.to/2jDr0rE
All the stuff for my project can be found here www.diypowerwalls.com/t-HBPowerwall-Offical
Hello where can i so many liion 18650 battery get or from where you get so many Li-Ion 18650 battery thank you in advance
Get on the phone, call all your local computer places, hardware stores, government offices, put adds up in local free sites etc you just have to ask and ask - one day some random person will go - sure I have a box full :) it's taken me quite some effort.
Hello power master I am building the same big battery like you but now it's almost finished I have some problem how it is loading I want to buy a sma sunny boy storage 2.5 but it needs bms now my project is almost finished I stock to this problems please help me what to do
You going to have to ask SMA can't help sorry. Everything I have learned good bad or evil has been from youtube and google search. Good luck & thanks for tuning in
Do you have a procedure to check if the used cells are in good condition?
Probably this video will help i thinks - ruclips.net/user/edit?o=U&video_id=v_4ggDN7290
Hey HB, do you have a current link for your testing procedure?
wondering if any cells still available. i'm in brisbane at least once a week. is it possible to buy a 100 or so cells at a time depending on availability? thanks Glen
Sorry bud, just sold the last lot i had
do you get them in often?
by cell do you mean the indevidual 18650s or do you mean a dollar for each pack of them in the plastic holders?
per cell means per cell
an 18650 is one cell
Lord of The Batteries
Wrong channel lol
In the uk poundland they have a charger with a 18560 battery in would they be ok to make a diy e bike battery....?
I don't really know sorry . buy a few and try :)
Don't bother. They are Chinese fake batteries.
They will work for a few minutes though.
Google fake 18650's.
Cool!
yeah good answer leg work
I buy my new at the in the dollar store 2200mah 1865. In the USA
If you're in the states better heading to www.batteryhookup.com and if you use "Powerwalls" at check out you save another 10 percent on the buy price.
Could I start make money with 500 dollars to start? All I have is a soldering guy and solder so what do I need
$2.50 for a 6-cell battery pack or $2.50 for each cell?
i only pay 1 per kg now wholesale when buying 1000's at a time from wholesalers - from eBay they are about 4-5ea now - crazy what people are paying
Yeah, I don't see why people don't just buy the cells like these www.ebay.com/itm/100-LG-18650-2200MAH-LGAAS31865-CELLS-LITHIUM-ION-BATTERIES-POWERWALL-EBIKE-EV/173034805076?hash=item2849ad9754:g:RsUAAOSw0A9aNDDT
seems like a much better deal.
I think the secret got out and people drove up the price.
that seems like a better deal though
How do you measure their capacity, you happen to have a video on that?
I use an amzn.to/2phKJjt Opus charger discharger - They'll charge then discharge your cell giving you capacity on each cell.
Hi guy I have a 24v 5ah battery pack for my electric bike. I want to build a 24 volt 20ah or so, where can I go to for me to learn how to put one together. Is there an online school? or books that I can purchase.
RUclips my friend - RUclips
Google fake 18650's.
I could hep you. maybe not now but I could
O K It would be very much appreciated. how do we get started email: Kahoiwai45@gmail.com
+Kahoiwai Kanamu my pleasure
Hi i ame gonna build a 60v 15ah battery from 2500mah batterys for my e-scooter. I still feel a bit nervous about it. I was wondering could u help me to make drawings for it? I have only 25x30x8cm space that it should fit. If u could help me with this so i dont kill my self:D It would be awsome! Like your videos by the way
Find 18650's what?
this is format of the battery
Respect!!!
Thank-You....
Good day, where can I buy these batteries from you?
I don't sell any anymore sorry
ok, but can you direct me to where you got them?
ANY where i could find them! Get on the phone and starting calling computer shops, recycle centers, tips, government agencies, charities, anywhere...
Have you figured out what you pay per cell?
+ScinnerNo1 Over all probably nothing or very close too it.
Can any one please tell me does fake Opus-BT-C3100 clones exist as I am ordering 2 from ebay. Cannot fine anyware comparison about fake Opus-BT-C3100 clones.
Ive rung 3 recycling centers, not one will give/sell them to the public ; (
+Jayme Capurso i've heard that story a few times, maybe its just because I own a computer business .. might ask that question tomorrow when i go to pick up my other 500 packs of batteries.
how does your business factor in? Are they thinking your not going to blow yourself up like the average dummy might?
Hey don't think for a second that i ain't dumb!!!! I'm a blind bloke in a brothel - just feeling my way around. Maybe becaues i have a ABN don't know,. Are you in Australia?
ha, I saw all the pc's only a madman or someone desiring to go mad would deal with them for a living :)
Yeah, Im in Adelaide, battery world said 'maybe' and that they would 'get back to me'.
Over regulated Australia strikes again! Which goes double for the nanny state.
It's possible i'm mad, TV's Computers, XBOX, Playstation - and any phone we can get parts for we fix or at least try too.. been mad for 16yrs so far. haha
I figured out who your wholesaler is
Finally - do tell!
small world.. spoke with Nick, and Joel this morning, apparently Chris just gave you a bunch of batteries recently.. I like your channel.. you've done well.. am interested in building my own now.. have been watching jehugarcia channel as well..
Arrr lol Yeh, used that company as my sole wholesaler for plus 12 years easily
What do you using
A lot of info on my project with links and pictures can be found here www.diypowerwalls.com/t-HBPowerwall-Offical
Jos Voorhaar *
Thanks you're the first honest video that says its a bitch my experience I pay 5 a pack 10 brand new do the math
Do you still sell them?
No sorry buddy
In Spain this is impossible
:( so easy in the US
USA also as soon as they see you need them. $$$$$ in their eyes buy eBay new save dealing with asses
could send me 10 same non- usable 18650 batty s i can use for layout?
i could if yaawr a local
i am not local but if you can tell me how to safely kill the battier. i have tree dead laptop battiers.or make a video
i am dislesci reader is heard some times
I have access to several of these type cells www.mouser.com/ds/2/315/Panasonic_NiMH_HHR450A-182839.pdf would it be worth my while to attempt a powerwall?
17670 cells by the looks and sure they would workfine - infact most people like myself give those cells back to the recyclers, i've had hundreds of them
Ask at large companies with many offices etc that use laptops, the IT guys must throw hundreds of old unused/used batteries away!
For sure great places to look
Ask your e-bike mechanic, they will sell you used batteries!
10s5p of18650cells
I assumed they'd want them just like I do, for making packs. Why would they sell?
Because you are living your life without aim , so this is what you get
+Mustafa Ahmed couldn't agree more :)
i mean it is dangerous to use old cells from laptops. You have different mAh, different cycles. It will be quit better if you use the same cells. The same capacity, same voltage, sme cycle life etc etc- And you get cheap good industral cells for only 2.50 EUR per each cells and thats abslout new ones.
Stay tuned for another 2 years, i'll either prove you right or really really wrong ! pete
Hey Pete ok, we will stay and look what happen in two years. But I decided that I only build with new cells a powerwall. Next january on my channel
I have many (too many) surveillance cameras wifee can pick off the footage upload the footage of my demise and make a billion youtube dollars from my stupidity :) IT, .....shall be my legacy!
Where is your powerwall? nothing on your channel!
DIY Tesla PowerWall What do you know about the solid state battery?
Is it commercially available?
Also I saw an article about using Na (Salt or Sodium), instead of Li.
Just cant remember the details...I remember the bit about it being a lot cheaper. Have you come across Na in a gel battery?
can you send me some of them
Good share. I will need to develop such a network in Jakarta. Need to build your own network people stop being leeches.
SPEAK UP!!!!!!
OOOKKKKK better?
😁✌🖖👌👍😎
Heheheheheh dont call me you cretins AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN ehheheheeheh lol
Not even close to bad any more ...lol All my stalkers gave up *grin*
This is BS where is my recycler place that gives/sells them out?! I have contacted many battery recyclers and they NO NOT SELL SHIT. in fact the ONLY place I got mine were ebay and scrap yard
+DragonsREpic keep trying show them how they can be reused not sold to China for scrap!
hell I got many good cells. I got them charging and they tend to be 1,400 - 2500 mAh from "dead" batteries.
there is a small computer repair shop a few hundred metres down the road that gives dead battery packs to me for free (the owner says he has to pay to get them recycled so im doing him a favor)
i can usually get 2-4 packs per fortnight out of him
the hell is a fortnight
google it
*If u want hes number let me know*
inaudible! Why don't you re do the video with better sound?
Sure why not