I hope the mini set adds a neutral colossal and also some more support for SI:7 rogue/Pirate rogue. However I think we'll not see lots of pirates because of the warrior quest (juggernaut).
I say we will see quite a few small pirates for a low roll on juggernaut. Not a ton so the juggernaut still takes work, but enough to water the pool out, and seeing pirates in rogue makes me happy for that as that stops it from being used with quest.
I think something I’ve seen no-one mention with The Demon Hunter one is how killing the main body stops the others from growing in power. I suppose 1/2s that deal 1 is still kind of powerful, but that’s a decent weakness.
Yeah IMO the most overrated one so far. It’s good but tokens have to be good in short for its real strength as 5 annoying minions to shine, but with the feast of souls buff it might be good just to have the tentacles all die for a burst of card draw.
hunter loses ton of face tools so I don't think it will be a thing for at least this expansion, so what remains is quest hunter and beast hunter and BBH already saw some fringe competitive success and it got some really neat new tools which might even push it further especially in the right meta
I'd rather fight a beast midrange hunter than just face hunter AGAIN for a year hunter has been the same deck for years I'd love a more midrange deck than just aggro poop face
Yeah it's underrated imo, it's very remiscent of Walking Fountain in Shaman during RoS, really solid card. People are really quick dismiss the Lifesteal keyword I swear
I got azshara in duels, I chose the Horn of the ancient and it gave me gigafin for 1 mana. My opponent was playing a deathrattle deck and he managed to kill gigafin without killing the maw, and i lost the game right after. So basically, if your opponent can kill gigafin with a spell, it's bad, if not, it's actually pretty good i think. You'll have to play gigafin or not depending of the deck your opponent plays. ( Just like playing rattlegore against priest could let your opponent take advantage with copies and silence. )
You can also use the new weapon to discount the Colossal by 2, don't know how reliable that will be though. Worth noting this also works with Shaw+Korrak but only against opponent minions with 6+ attack and you don't fill your board with hydra heads. Probably a meme combo, but fun.
Okay, but in what world is Hunter running an 11 cost board wipe? I have a feeling this card will be run in some decks but will suffer like other Hunter cards because it's not face damage enough
Pirate warrior getting bran for a potential two juggernaut is bad enough. then adding this colossal to give more pirate warrior gas. Unless you're otk'ing them, i don't think a single control deck can outlast pirate warrior at this point.
@@ChicoRamirez5023 light bomb saw 0 play in doom in the tomb event and it's going to be even worse rn, that cards also sees no play in wild. Priest lost a lot of value generation and extremely good clears in form of hysteria and soul mirror Edit: most notable cards that priest loses besdies hysteria and soul mirror: renew, palm reading, raise dead, apotheosis, sethek, which all at some point saw a lot of play in slower priest decks and even miracle priest which got replaced by very fringe cards that mostly support some buff priest strategy
I disagree about colaque, from what we learned about druid, every card can be broken with enough ramp. Now i know a lot ramp is roratiting out, but druid still have guff and having 20 mana a being able to get multiple copies of scares me. There is a relatively small pool of 7 mana minions so the other druid legendary can pull Colaque or hydralodon out pretty consistently. Also mark of the spikeshell can give you multiple shells to keep colaque on board for ages.
I'd bet Colaque is going to be good purely based on the life druid gets off it. It's a 0/8 taunt that gives 8 health, so at minimum if someone wants to face race you're gaining 16 health for 7 mana on top of having a 6/5 left over. In addition it's a pain in the ass for a spell-heavy deck. Your opponent doesn't want to have to burn down a 0/8 minion to get to a immune 6/5 but they're going to have to unless they're already at the point where they can face race. It works against minion-based aggro, and spell-based decks are going to be really annoyed at the hoops they have to jump through to remove it, it'll mostly fail based on if quest hunter is the king deck because that deck is probably able to out-race it and ignore it, otherwise I don't see that much downside.
Priest and Druid Colossal minions are basically copies of Neutral Cards with an extra effect (Priest is Abominable Lieutenant, Druid is City Architect) their extra effects aren't really worth much (If Colaque was 5 mana and Guardian Animals was still in Standard, that's another story as getting a free trade with an Immune Rush would be sick). Shaman Colossal is too easy to remove. 5 health on 7 mana is pathetic... It'll be insane in Arena though where spells are less common and you have to trade into the Taunts. Similar story for Xhilag, it's like a bad Priestess of Fury since it does less damage when played and is easier to neuter. Gigafin, I can't see being played outside of Rogue getting it from Reconnaissance for an extra board clear. Not when Warlock typically has broken stuff to abuse (They also are getting more OwlTK support with Naval Mine and Selfish Shellfish which are cheaper options to set up a DR for Phylactery OTK) Gaia, is a great card IF mech mage is a thing and IF said Mech mage isn't just going to SMOrc like ye olde Mech Mage decks (Especially with Automaton highrolls being possible) Leviathan is okay. It's probably not going to break the game or define any decks, but it's not awful. We'll have to see where Paladin ends up given their Buff strategy that's been their core deck for the past 2 years is rotating with Librams. Hydralodon is an amazing card. But will Hunter actually use it? It's hard to say, especially given there's been some Quest Hunter support recently. Nellie and Crabatoa are basically auto-include cards for most decks. Nellie gives value and burst potential and Crabatoa gives a lot of tempo and board control. Pretty much all archetypes available to Warrior and Rogue like these effects (Even Garrote Rogue can get some value from Crabatoa clearing the board and some extra face damage from weapons)
I think the turtle is way better than people are giving him credit for. He blocks 16 damage with the appendage alone with half being armor and the other half being a taunt. If you’re a spell deck he’s a pain in the ass because you have to sling spells into a 0/8 just to kill him which is really annoying. Against aggro he’ll be alright and what more do you need?
Are we sure gigafin triggers death rattles when it devours? I would think it would be like in battlegrounds when you devour a minion it doesn't trigger the death rattle
That wouldn't work sadly, a minion that is immune loses the ability to gain taunt. If you taunt Onyxia Raid Boss with her welps being alive for instance, nothing happens
Also try to imagine how much different the meta will be with new core cards and only last year's expansions most of Dh quest gone. Druid and shaman losing ramp. Priest gaining the most control package of all classes. Some of these colossal cards might be better then you think like priest control with quest might need a new 8 drop
ok hear me out.....gulper into a board full of piranhas rushing to their deaths to clear taunts or even be killed off by your own spells, you could hit 29 attack with all 3 tails and 6 piranhas, or if you're fancy you can drop the new totem that gives 1 cost minions +2/+1 and 5 piranhas and get 33 attack
I don’t have as much hope for the hunter hydra if for no other reason than- it’s just not what hunter does. Hunter should be ending the game by turn 7, and idk I just feel like it won’t fit the mold
I accidentally disenchanted my golden Balinda stonehearth. I had the diamond reward one at that point, now I’m scared it will be taken away. Can anyone confirm?
I think Rogue #1, Paladin + Hunter #2, DH + Druid + Shaman(I think with 3-4 piranhas they could be getting really cheeky kills off feeding the stats into the colossal suddenly + Warrior #3, and then I think Mage and Priest are getting shafted with Priest's colossal just being an ok lifesteal minion with nothing special and I think Mech mage will flop and Mage won't care about running the colossal because of it. I have no doubt in my mind people are going to be shadowstepping crabatoa (and maybe even trying to duplicate him if possible), the constant weapon pressure that's hard to even ooze because each minion is a new weapon is going to be toxic with rogue over and over again hitting you down.
For shaman you say " they have snowfall guardian and better things to do and for mage you say "if mech mage is a thing" yet mage's collossal is above shamans. Make up your mind. This mech mage is soo forced that is not gonna be a thing
I think it would be cool if we got a neutral colossal in the mini-set
Yeah, probably N'Zoth himself with 6 appendages
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@@сахасахович-п2и how did you know ?
Why??? Big priest with neptulons is way worse then standard big priest in wild(((
Barrens Stablehand is looking better every day.
Now thats a comment, looking forward to drafting it in arena
they removed him from the core set, I'm so sad
I really really hope that they keep the Colossal keyword for next expansions. It is the coolest idea for a card I've seen in a while
I hope the mini set adds a neutral colossal and also some more support for SI:7 rogue/Pirate rogue. However I think we'll not see lots of pirates because of the warrior quest (juggernaut).
I say we will see quite a few small pirates for a low roll on juggernaut. Not a ton so the juggernaut still takes work, but enough to water the pool out, and seeing pirates in rogue makes me happy for that as that stops it from being used with quest.
I like how the crabclaws are auto equipped.
That's what the fork minion from years ago should have done.
If the fork cost 1 mana like the claws, then it would have still been could if it was sent to hand
I think something I’ve seen no-one mention with The Demon Hunter one is how killing the main body stops the others from growing in power. I suppose 1/2s that deal 1 is still kind of powerful, but that’s a decent weakness.
Yeah IMO the most overrated one so far. It’s good but tokens have to be good in short for its real strength as 5 annoying minions to shine, but with the feast of souls buff it might be good just to have the tentacles all die for a burst of card draw.
Cant wait to get a feel for these new minions
hunter loses ton of face tools so I don't think it will be a thing for at least this expansion, so what remains is quest hunter and beast hunter and BBH already saw some fringe competitive success and it got some really neat new tools which might even push it further especially in the right meta
I'd rather fight a beast midrange hunter than just face hunter AGAIN for a year hunter has been the same deck for years I'd love a more midrange deck than just aggro poop face
I'm glad made my day hearing that plz gut them they deserve it
priest Colossal looks like a perfect 8 drop for quest
Yeah it's underrated imo, it's very remiscent of Walking Fountain in Shaman during RoS, really solid card. People are really quick dismiss the Lifesteal keyword I swear
@@darklordinateur i would give it a higher ranking not S tier but something like B or A
@@patriousthefallenknight3185 Yeah low A or high B is where I would put it as well
I got azshara in duels, I chose the Horn of the ancient and it gave me gigafin for 1 mana.
My opponent was playing a deathrattle deck and he managed to kill gigafin without killing the maw, and i lost the game right after.
So basically, if your opponent can kill gigafin with a spell, it's bad, if not, it's actually pretty good i think. You'll have to play gigafin or not depending of the deck your opponent plays. ( Just like playing rattlegore against priest could let your opponent take advantage with copies and silence. )
since 6/10 of the colossals are beasts, faelin might be interesting in a big beast hunter deck, mainly with the dredge weapon that discounts
Houndmaster is in coreset now, with Hydralodon it will be an absolute boardclear. Well, as long as you have the coin since they're 11 mana in total.
You can also use the new weapon to discount the Colossal by 2, don't know how reliable that will be though.
Worth noting this also works with Shaw+Korrak but only against opponent minions with 6+ attack and you don't fill your board with hydra heads. Probably a meme combo, but fun.
Okay, but in what world is Hunter running an 11 cost board wipe? I have a feeling this card will be run in some decks but will suffer like other Hunter cards because it's not face damage enough
@@zkeus with Shaw, its effectively a board wipe and a board fill in many cases, at the same time. pretty strong
@@slippedonturd Strong, but 11 mana.
This is the most accurate Colossal tier list I've seen
I'm really surprised at the hunter one, finally something good that isnt pure aggro I was half expecting it to be a 1-5 mana aggro card
Pirate warrior getting bran for a potential two juggernaut is bad enough. then adding this colossal to give more pirate warrior gas. Unless you're otk'ing them, i don't think a single control deck can outlast pirate warrior at this point.
Sounds fun looks like I'll be taking another year break from hs until quests finally leave for good sadge
Have you seen priest control tools it is going to be disgusting
@@ChicoRamirez5023 priest lose majority of its control tools...
@@metroplextitan8816 They gained light bomb Please look at priest core set update
@@ChicoRamirez5023 light bomb saw 0 play in doom in the tomb event and it's going to be even worse rn, that cards also sees no play in wild. Priest lost a lot of value generation and extremely good clears in form of hysteria and soul mirror
Edit: most notable cards that priest loses besdies hysteria and soul mirror: renew, palm reading, raise dead, apotheosis, sethek, which all at some point saw a lot of play in slower priest decks and even miracle priest which got replaced by very fringe cards that mostly support some buff priest strategy
I disagree about colaque, from what we learned about druid, every card can be broken with enough ramp. Now i know a lot ramp is roratiting out, but druid still have guff and having 20 mana a being able to get multiple copies of scares me. There is a relatively small pool of 7 mana minions so the other druid legendary can pull Colaque or hydralodon out pretty consistently. Also mark of the spikeshell can give you multiple shells to keep colaque on board for ages.
I'd bet Colaque is going to be good purely based on the life druid gets off it. It's a 0/8 taunt that gives 8 health, so at minimum if someone wants to face race you're gaining 16 health for 7 mana on top of having a 6/5 left over. In addition it's a pain in the ass for a spell-heavy deck. Your opponent doesn't want to have to burn down a 0/8 minion to get to a immune 6/5 but they're going to have to unless they're already at the point where they can face race. It works against minion-based aggro, and spell-based decks are going to be really annoyed at the hoops they have to jump through to remove it, it'll mostly fail based on if quest hunter is the king deck because that deck is probably able to out-race it and ignore it, otherwise I don't see that much downside.
@@alexmcdonald6622 if they are spell base just dont care minion put spell in the face it only 6 damage took you 5 turn to kill 30 HP hero
I hope that the colossal keyword will come back in other expansions as well.
all good major keywords do for the most part as we have seen with quest and hero cards so dw it might be a while but it will come back
We haven't even played them yet, it's way too soon to judge whether they're good enough
@@vulcanmemes9770 its more of the fact its a cool concept that can be made good even if it isnt, unlike joust which wasnt really too popular
Zeddy’s looking very handsome in Theorycraft pic. I’m super happy that wild streamers are having some really nice new card goodness.
Priest and Druid Colossal minions are basically copies of Neutral Cards with an extra effect (Priest is Abominable Lieutenant, Druid is City Architect) their extra effects aren't really worth much (If Colaque was 5 mana and Guardian Animals was still in Standard, that's another story as getting a free trade with an Immune Rush would be sick).
Shaman Colossal is too easy to remove. 5 health on 7 mana is pathetic... It'll be insane in Arena though where spells are less common and you have to trade into the Taunts. Similar story for Xhilag, it's like a bad Priestess of Fury since it does less damage when played and is easier to neuter.
Gigafin, I can't see being played outside of Rogue getting it from Reconnaissance for an extra board clear. Not when Warlock typically has broken stuff to abuse (They also are getting more OwlTK support with Naval Mine and Selfish Shellfish which are cheaper options to set up a DR for Phylactery OTK)
Gaia, is a great card IF mech mage is a thing and IF said Mech mage isn't just going to SMOrc like ye olde Mech Mage decks (Especially with Automaton highrolls being possible)
Leviathan is okay. It's probably not going to break the game or define any decks, but it's not awful. We'll have to see where Paladin ends up given their Buff strategy that's been their core deck for the past 2 years is rotating with Librams.
Hydralodon is an amazing card. But will Hunter actually use it? It's hard to say, especially given there's been some Quest Hunter support recently.
Nellie and Crabatoa are basically auto-include cards for most decks. Nellie gives value and burst potential and Crabatoa gives a lot of tempo and board control. Pretty much all archetypes available to Warrior and Rogue like these effects (Even Garrote Rogue can get some value from Crabatoa clearing the board and some extra face damage from weapons)
I think the turtle is way better than people are giving him credit for. He blocks 16 damage with the appendage alone with half being armor and the other half being a taunt. If you’re a spell deck he’s a pain in the ass because you have to sling spells into a 0/8 just to kill him which is really annoying. Against aggro he’ll be alright and what more do you need?
You also have fangbound druid to reduce his cost or the seed
You can copy the beast and the shell with plaugemaw or menagerie warden
I can't wait till the expansion launches
And then two weeks go by and everyone is complaining about one or two decks happens every expansion cycle this wont be any different
Can’t wait to start getting a feel for all these colossals, such a great concept.
Gratz on hitting 46k btw, 🙌🏼👏🏼🎉
Zeddy is like an online dad for me tbh
Amazing, subscribed
I really hope for a neutral collossal too ! : ) Amazing video !
Looks like Beg Beast Hunter finally it's going to be a thing
Someday, a counter quest completion card could be printed... a man can dream...
Can't wait to bust out caria felsoul to get two copies of the colossal in my deck 😂
Stablehand is looking better every day.
Congratulations to the winners 🏆🏆🏆🏆 Great Video!
Are we sure gigafin triggers death rattles when it devours? I would think it would be like in battlegrounds when you devour a minion it doesn't trigger the death rattle
One of the devs did confirm that it does in fact trigger deathrattles.
Love how much heart you put in all your work! Hope the new expansion will be blast to play for all :D
Neat expansion, reminds me somewhat of WotOG
Zeddy comments re Gaia “It will attack all enemies, so that will include itself”. Gaia hates itself??!? Lol
If I play a Reno deck you can bet I'm gonna put a Colossal in it.
I think blackwater behemoth would be a lot better if the lure wasn't a beast as well
Congrats for the winners c:
I was in duels, big colossal came, I destroyed, he came back with tail. Bad day lol
I love warlock one . I don't know if it will be playable but i will try :P
Crabatoa will be op af
Looking forward to playing a different style of hs
1: silence colaques shell
2: give colaque taunt
3: make them spell imune.
That wouldn't work sadly, a minion that is immune loses the ability to gain taunt. If you taunt Onyxia Raid Boss with her welps being alive for instance, nothing happens
I'm just getting into Hearthston and it seems pretty overwhelming....I've just been playing battlegrounds so far.
Subscribed. Great contents!
This new expansion seems gooood
I like the druid colossal.
Cant wait!
Subscribed! Amazing content
Shaman colossal is the strongest. Has Best keywords and gives Most value imo
Also try to imagine how much different the meta will be with new core cards and only last year's expansions most of Dh quest gone. Druid and shaman losing ramp. Priest gaining the most control package of all classes. Some of these colossal cards might be better then you think like priest control with quest might need a new 8 drop
Imagine drafting hydralodon and houndmaster together in arena
ok hear me out.....gulper into a board full of piranhas rushing to their deaths to clear taunts or even be killed off by your own spells, you could hit 29 attack with all 3 tails and 6 piranhas, or if you're fancy you can drop the new totem that gives 1 cost minions +2/+1 and 5 piranhas and get 33 attack
I think it works with base stats, so you wouldnt get that much attack, just 6/6 in stats. But not sure
damn another ez dodge on the giveaway! was hoping to win so I can get some colossal minions haha
Is that 8 mana druid beast card rotating? Cuz the would be amazing with the druid colosal
keep it the amazing content
Bro the Hunter Colossal is endless board clear in one turn? ......... CMON BLIZZARD
wonder what happens if you treachery over Gigafin then kill it, do the enemy's board then becomes your own?
Its deathrattle relied on its battlecry. So no...
You can try treachery on cube or chromatic egg, they wont spit anything
What happens if you dregde 2 times in a row? Does the first one you dregde get but back somewhere random in your deck?
Meh that Druid one needs a buff, give the shell some attack would be nice
Imo if priest gets a colossal thats too strong, it will autmatically be opressive due to the rezzing posibilities.
The lure will likely also screw with the rez pool.
Everyone hating on my favorite card of the expansion, Colaque. I'm predicting they're all wrong and it sees play :)
The new Colossal system is interesting in my opinion.
cant wait for the expansion
I got myself the 4 colossals you ranked the lowest. Guess I can just go up at this point right ?
Blizzard please hear our voices and let Colossals stay awesome keyword
I just know I will get the bad one, druid, on my packs
Jesus zeddy you give the most
How can you ask us stay salty
Whether these minions end up making a spalsh, I think Colossal minions are an amazing idea.
I love Crabato best!
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crab crab crabatoa
love you zeddy!
Are the presale bundles worth it ?
I don’t have as much hope for the hunter hydra if for no other reason than- it’s just not what hunter does. Hunter should be ending the game by turn 7, and idk I just feel like it won’t fit the mold
gaia the techtonic
some peps say it bad cuz the remove of the card is bad and its to late to play
Druid.... beast synergy
Hunter legendary just another rat king until you can prove that quest hunt isn't dominant or nerfed
did you put all the colossal backwards on purpose?
Surely that card that kills legendarys will be viable since everyone will be trying colossals
ChaChing me brother!
I accidentally disenchanted my golden Balinda stonehearth. I had the diamond reward one at that point, now I’m scared it will be taken away. Can anyone confirm?
your diamond cards wont be taken away
It can't be taken away, enjoy your 1600 dust.
Why would it be taken away?
Yeah, I'm not first too
Khadgar shouldve bee put in the core set as a neutral minion
They kinda did with Zola. It's pretty expensive but anyone can double down on Colossals with that.
How did you get to 46k already? At this rate I'm calling 50k before the mini set launches!
IMO best Colossals: Paladin, Warlock, DH
Average ones: Hunter, Rogue, Shaman, Warrior
Worst Colossals: Priest, Druid, Mage
I think Rogue #1, Paladin + Hunter #2, DH + Druid + Shaman(I think with 3-4 piranhas they could be getting really cheeky kills off feeding the stats into the colossal suddenly + Warrior #3, and then I think Mage and Priest are getting shafted with Priest's colossal just being an ok lifesteal minion with nothing special and I think Mech mage will flop and Mage won't care about running the colossal because of it. I have no doubt in my mind people are going to be shadowstepping crabatoa (and maybe even trying to duplicate him if possible), the constant weapon pressure that's hard to even ooze because each minion is a new weapon is going to be toxic with rogue over and over again hitting you down.
If jigafin and his tail dies at the same time which goes off first?
Depends on what order they summon in. Most likely Gigafin first.
colossals are cool!!!!!!
when does this xpac drop?
Do we know what happens if Gigafin eats a deathrattle minion and it is destroyed? Does the owner of the card get the deathrattle? Does the warlock?
It work the same as moat lurker i assume.
So the owner get the deathrattle
@@davidwijaya8563 Thank you! That is good to know.
Cant wait for Zeddy to be correct again. No Kappa.
Zeddy can you please do diamond cards tier list
The mana cost is just all over the place, and to some extent doesn't make sense.
For shaman you say " they have snowfall guardian and better things to do and for mage you say "if mech mage is a thing"
yet mage's collossal is above shamans. Make up your mind. This mech mage is soo forced that is not gonna be a thing
Colossal giveaway :P
Hydralajon forsenT
1 day after rarran lol
big chungus
nice
Not second
Colossals would be busted in arena