Enjoyed your road trip series as someone who is interested in getting a VW EV soonish, potentially when the ID.8 comes out that was recently announced as my family needs a larger SUV. Watching your video made me look forward to future EV road trips!
Thanks for the road trip video, y'all might have just helped somebody decide between Tesla, Ford and VW...3 years of free charging plus the tax credit is a great steal indeed. Keep it up!
The good news is that the Nav on the ID.4 is scheduled for a OTA update coming in the next 6 months so looking forward to much greater accuracy and features. The OTA updates every 90 days they say are expected should sure make this a much better car then it started out as. I am loving my Pro S. Not sure why you made the statement that a Tiguan's cost in a vacation would be the same as the ID.4. Do the math. Electricity costs at a decent charger is about 1/3rd the cost of a gallon of gas ($3.60-$6.00 a gallon).
Thanks guys for this video of your road trip. Remember you can stop at service stations to clean your window, I have done that myself. Unless you're in Norway and at a Circle K who have them at their chargers unlikely we will see them for awhile yet not until EV's dominate the market, such as Norway, more globally. You're philosophy on charging is similar to Kyle from Out of Spec Motoring with the charger hopping idea. It is still early days in the EV world but always glad to see more and nice to see someone with an ID.4, they may not ever come to Australia but have also heard potentially 2023 but we are getting the EV6 & Ioniq 5 plus the Cupra Born(hot hatch version of ID.3) within the next 12 months supposedly.
Good to know how far Electrify América chargers have extended making extended travels in EV a real possibility, however charging times have to come down substantially to reduce the extended charging time. Hopefuly in the near future charging times Williams be close to refulling a combustion engine vehicle.
My wife, after many hi end MB SUVs and alike, is in Luv with her "Dumpling" our 1st edition, ID.4. First EV for us, so we are learning the ropes, with trips in the 100s of miles, warning up for a 3600 mi r/t from Long Island to Austin! Your extensive 3 part Vids were our evening "must watch"! You guys absolutely hit on all the same points that we are facing; like the ID.4 NAV system is useless for EA chargers, or any charger network, whereas we also found ABRP & Chargeway before we ventured out! I personally complained to VW US directly, but they seem slow to change, and we know more than the dealer! Great videos, very enjoyable (guess only if you are ID.4 owner?) Thanks and you seem like a great couple :) drive safely ID.4 newbies in Long Island
Thanks! We appreciate the feedback. I think our videos are hopefully applicable to all non Tesla EV’s in some capacity and we do plan on reviewing other brands and doing comparisons in the future!
Just had my first test drive in an ID.4 & it was quite pleasant. Really enjoyed & was inspired by your road trip. As a fellow Chicagoan, it made it easy to envision doing a very similar trip! Looking forward to more content. Subscribing now!
Really cool videos, thank you for putting these out. We picked up our Id.4 about three weeks ago and broke her in with a trip from Gurnee, IL to Mall of America. We ran into the same issues with the Navigation and the endless Walmart stops. :) We were lucky enough to find one Walmart up in WI that surprisingly did have a windshield cleaning station but it was being sponsored and provided by the local restaurants in the area.
@@EVMotoring or perhaps we'll see chargers in other locations like hotels or malls, etc. Chargers will be more distributed evenly with the bipartisan infrastructure bill being passed.. 👍😎 I like target better lol 🤣
You can buy a squeegee for $6-7 and a spray bottle of window cleaner. If you are concerned about putting the wet squeegee in the car, keep it in a small towel. Problem solved. I always gassed my MB at Costco and they normally don’t provide window cleaning supplies, either, so it’s not unique to EA and Walmart.
Very good points, hopefully VW will listen. I bought an ID4 Max here in Austria, cost me 58k EUR which is far more expensive than the US 1st edition. Overall I’m very happy with it, although the interior could be better for the price point.
Have enjoyed your videos. You can buy car trunk travel systems (we got ours from L L Bean) that carry and organize automotive maintenance items. In 35 years of traveling, only had one problem with spillage, and that was my fault. But it contained it.
I guess I got to see this a bit late. But I have the 2022 with the new software 3.1 version. And the navigation is much better. Plus now you can only show EA or DCFC over 100kw. Still A Better Route Planner is best. I export the route to Google maps. The driver assist is really great. Will do curves for you. Not full turns. And it can be turned off and ACC can now be used without drivers assist. The screen is more responsive. Still missing Plug and charge. And the charging speed is really much higher at the lower level. I have seen it even get to 173kw.
Great Videos and awesome info. Thank You!!! Just subscribed to your channel. My wife and I are taking our 1st trip to The Mountains of Helen, Georgia from Boca Raton Florida. A 1400 mile round trip long weekend. tomorrow. I also watched Kyle at Out of Spec who also has great Videos.
I agree that I want my car to make a sound when there's someone in your blind spot and you use the turn signal. My Mazda does this but the Ford I have for work doesn't.
The Walmart issue , which is not an issue really , the thing is that it gets old on road trips but at the same time if it wasn’t for Walmart agreeing to let EA install most of their chargers around the country road trips like this would take a bit longer so thank God for Walmart’s lol.
I don’t think Walmart agreed to anything out of the kindness of their hearts. It was a business decision. You are bringing in customers that will probably have 30 minutes or more to burn while they charge, so they expect that to translate into more traffic in the stores and presumably, sales. I’m not a fan of Walmart, partly because they have a reputation for attracting problems (like crime). True or false, I’m a little disappointed that EA went to Walmart for a partner. And because they made the decision to align with the anti-maskers, etc. (my local store refused to enforce the local mask mandate), I quit giving them my money.
I’ve been subscribed susceptibility the first ID.4 video, love them. Did you do and EV charging at campgrounds. I’m thinking of a portable Tesla charger gen 2 120-220volt , lots of adapters for many plugs. Max 50 amp outlets 14-50. Good job. No EV is perfect thanks for sticking with VW ID4, I has one on order Pro S AWD.
In my very first video on my channel we went to a campground and tried to charge. The problem we’ve encountered is some older campgrounds don’t have clean power so it can trip the charger
My Chevy app tells me if my charging session has ended with a notification. I charge each month at a campground and haven’t had any issues with the connections.
If you can find 150 KW charger that vw will go from 5 percent to 80 percent in 38 minutes. Have any problems finding 150KW chargers I know all the new EA chargers are 350 KW? Tesla Bjorn checked the charging curves on the ID 4 it was pretty darn flat. Walmart does not own the chargers.
Surprised that both VW and Ford is having phantom braking issues. I thought it was just Tesla that has it. Craziest part is I had a Lexus RX350 with adaptive cruise and lane centering assist that I traded in for a Model Y that never had this issue.
I have a Honda Accord with phantom braking issues. If you are rounding a bend in the road and there's an car in the oncoming lane, it brakes. Pain in the ass.
I am from Germany, i have ohne question: If you charge at Electrify America. How do you start charging? With an App? With an RFID Card? Or can you charge with Plug and Charge the iD.4 in USA?
There is no plug and charge yet. You can tap your phone like Apple Pay or you can initiate with the app. Plug and charge is supposed to be coming in an ota update this fall
Just tested the ID4 First Edition today after watching your video. Everything seems to be good, except for 2 things: no ventilated seats and the driver assistant really sucks. It won't even hold the car in the lane nor make the turn like the lane-keep on other cars. It appears I have activated all the systems (lane keep mark turns green). Is your car doing the same? or did I setup it wrong?
Where did you use it? It is intended for highway use. Also did you check in the “assist” menu on the infotainment? There are a lot of features that need to be turned on. In previous videos I have also mentioned that I think Autopilot and Ford CoPilot are superior. Unfortunately none of the big 3 EV brands (Tesla, Ford, & VW) have ventilated seats.
I suspect that you may never get the onboard nav to direct you to EA chargers. At least not in the near-term. Since VW is a major partner with EA it would most likely be viewed as anti-competitive to feature their own charging network in the nav system. I was told recently at my dealership that that was the case, so…
Do you think the in car route planner will get better? I have 2017 bolt and use a better route planner and an obd dongle to transfer live data the ABRP and that it will give me a pretty good route plan.
Can we talk about the price of the ID.4? The "MSRP" that all the VW dealers I see list is significantly higher than the MSRP quoted on the VW site. And then they say that destination and dealer processing fee are on top of that. If dealers want to charge a premium that's up to them - but how does an "MSRP" end up being almost $2K more than the MSPRP quoted on the VW site? Was this your experience too?
We did not encounter any of these issues. Our car was preordered tho and I know VW was very strict on dealers that they could not do any funny business on preorders
I was told by VW that the MSRP was exactly that, the SUGGESTED retail price and that dealers are free to set their own prices. I believe there was a disclaimer to that effect on their website.
It was very informative. Thank you so much. Have a good one!
Enjoyed your road trip series as someone who is interested in getting a VW EV soonish, potentially when the ID.8 comes out that was recently announced as my family needs a larger SUV. Watching your video made me look forward to future EV road trips!
Thanks for the road trip video, y'all might have just helped somebody decide between Tesla, Ford and VW...3 years of free charging plus the tax credit is a great steal indeed. Keep it up!
The good news is that the Nav on the ID.4 is scheduled for a OTA update coming in the next 6 months so looking forward to much greater accuracy and features. The OTA updates every 90 days they say are expected should sure make this a much better car then it started out as. I am loving my Pro S. Not sure why you made the statement that a Tiguan's cost in a vacation would be the same as the ID.4. Do the math. Electricity costs at a decent charger is about 1/3rd the cost of a gallon of gas ($3.60-$6.00 a gallon).
Thank you for this great information. We should be receiving our ID 4 Pro S within the next 2 weeks. Your videos have been really helpful.
Thanks guys for this video of your road trip. Remember you can stop at service stations to clean your window, I have done that myself. Unless you're in Norway and at a Circle K who have them at their chargers unlikely we will see them for awhile yet not until EV's dominate the market, such as Norway, more globally. You're philosophy on charging is similar to Kyle from Out of Spec Motoring with the charger hopping idea. It is still early days in the EV world but always glad to see more and nice to see someone with an ID.4, they may not ever come to Australia but have also heard potentially 2023 but we are getting the EV6 & Ioniq 5 plus the Cupra Born(hot hatch version of ID.3) within the next 12 months supposedly.
Thank you for doing all these. Anxiously awaiting my ID.4
Good to know how far Electrify América chargers have extended making extended travels in EV a real possibility, however charging times have to come down substantially to reduce the extended charging time. Hopefuly in the near future charging times Williams be close to refulling a combustion engine vehicle.
Over the last couple years they have been cut in half. Hopefully they can be cut in half again and that will make them equal
My wife, after many hi end MB SUVs and alike, is in Luv with her "Dumpling" our 1st edition, ID.4.
First EV for us, so we are learning the ropes, with trips in the 100s of miles, warning up for a 3600 mi r/t from Long Island to Austin! Your extensive 3 part Vids were our evening "must watch"!
You guys absolutely hit on all the same points that we are facing; like the ID.4 NAV system is useless for EA chargers, or any charger network, whereas we also found ABRP & Chargeway before we ventured out! I personally complained to VW US directly, but they seem slow to change, and we know more than the dealer! Great videos, very enjoyable (guess only if you are ID.4 owner?)
Thanks and you seem like a great couple :) drive safely
ID.4 newbies in Long Island
Thanks! We appreciate the feedback. I think our videos are hopefully applicable to all non Tesla EV’s in some capacity and we do plan on reviewing other brands and doing comparisons in the future!
You can purchase bug removal cleaner at the store and carry it with you. Works better than gas station
Just had my first test drive in an ID.4 & it was quite pleasant. Really enjoyed & was inspired by your road trip. As a fellow Chicagoan, it made it easy to envision doing a very similar trip! Looking forward to more content. Subscribing now!
And how about putting a roof over the chargers so you aren't baking in the sun!!
And a trash can so I can empty out wrappers and bottles
sweet can't wait for you guys to join forces with Jon! Awesome recap.
Subbed! Thanks for the review!
Looking forward to your 50k mile evaluation of the ID 4 regarding performance and cost to operate
long the way hoping to have my ID4 in the next couple of months so was really interested in your charging moments, tks for a interesting few trips
Really cool videos, thank you for putting these out. We picked up our Id.4 about three weeks ago and broke her in with a trip from Gurnee, IL to Mall of America. We ran into the same issues with the Navigation and the endless Walmart stops. :) We were lucky enough to find one Walmart up in WI that surprisingly did have a windshield cleaning station but it was being sponsored and provided by the local restaurants in the area.
I think there will be a huge market for fast casual restaurants and coffee shops to open near Walmart’s
@@EVMotoring or perhaps we'll see chargers in other locations like hotels or malls, etc. Chargers will be more distributed evenly with the bipartisan infrastructure bill being passed.. 👍😎 I like target better lol 🤣
You can buy a squeegee for $6-7 and a spray bottle of window cleaner. If you are concerned about putting the wet squeegee in the car, keep it in a small towel. Problem solved. I always gassed my MB at Costco and they normally don’t provide window cleaning supplies, either, so it’s not unique to EA and Walmart.
Thanks! Enjoy the ID.4. Impressive road trip.
Very good points, hopefully VW will listen. I bought an ID4 Max here in Austria, cost me 58k EUR which is far more expensive than the US 1st edition. Overall I’m very happy with it, although the interior could be better for the price point.
Have enjoyed your videos. You can buy car trunk travel systems (we got ours from L L Bean) that carry and organize automotive maintenance items. In 35 years of traveling, only had one problem with spillage, and that was my fault. But it contained it.
I guess I got to see this a bit late. But I have the 2022 with the new software 3.1 version. And the navigation is much better. Plus now you can only show EA or DCFC over 100kw. Still A Better Route Planner is best. I export the route to Google maps. The driver assist is really great. Will do curves for you. Not full turns. And it can be turned off and ACC can now be used without drivers assist. The screen is more responsive. Still missing Plug and charge. And the charging speed is really much higher at the lower level. I have seen it even get to 173kw.
Great Videos and awesome info. Thank You!!! Just subscribed to your channel. My wife and I are taking our 1st trip to The Mountains of Helen, Georgia from Boca Raton Florida. A 1400 mile round trip long weekend. tomorrow. I also watched Kyle at Out of Spec who also has great Videos.
Good luck on your trip! We love road tripping in the ID!
I agree that I want my car to make a sound when there's someone in your blind spot and you use the turn signal. My Mazda does this but the Ford I have for work doesn't.
The Walmart issue , which is not an issue really , the thing is that it gets old on road trips but at the same time if it wasn’t for Walmart agreeing to let EA install most of their chargers around the country road trips like this would take a bit longer so thank God for Walmart’s lol.
I don’t think Walmart agreed to anything out of the kindness of their hearts. It was a business decision. You are bringing in customers that will probably have 30 minutes or more to burn while they charge, so they expect that to translate into more traffic in the stores and presumably, sales. I’m not a fan of Walmart, partly because they have a reputation for attracting problems (like crime). True or false, I’m a little disappointed that EA went to Walmart for a partner. And because they made the decision to align with the anti-maskers, etc. (my local store refused to enforce the local mask mandate), I quit giving them my money.
I’ve been subscribed susceptibility the first ID.4 video, love them. Did you do and EV charging at campgrounds. I’m thinking of a portable Tesla charger gen 2 120-220volt , lots of adapters for many plugs. Max 50 amp outlets 14-50. Good job. No EV is perfect thanks for sticking with VW ID4, I has one on order Pro S AWD.
In my very first video on my channel we went to a campground and tried to charge. The problem we’ve encountered is some older campgrounds don’t have clean power so it can trip the charger
Subscribed!
Just subscribed to your channel, best of luck 🤞
Awesome content!
My Chevy app tells me if my charging session has ended with a notification. I charge each month at a campground and haven’t had any issues with the connections.
I hope you two get a chance to compare the ID.4 to the Ioniq 5.
We definitely plan on it!
Thanks for the summery of your trip.Have you had your first over the air software update yet? If not do you know when you will get it?
No update yet but hopefully one is coming in the next month
Is the Tesla Tap for AC charging and can you use a Tesla Tap for a Chevy Bolt.
Yes, it’s for ac charging only and works great with the Bolt!
If you can find 150 KW charger that vw will go from 5 percent to 80 percent in 38 minutes. Have any problems finding 150KW chargers I know all the new EA chargers are 350 KW? Tesla Bjorn checked the charging curves on the ID 4 it was pretty darn flat. Walmart does not own the chargers.
Ooooh, I get the JK now! Good grief, I feel dumb.
Surprised that both VW and Ford is having phantom braking issues. I thought it was just Tesla that has it. Craziest part is I had a Lexus RX350 with adaptive cruise and lane centering assist that I traded in for a Model Y that never had this issue.
I have a Honda Accord with phantom braking issues. If you are rounding a bend in the road and there's an car in the oncoming lane, it brakes. Pain in the ass.
I am from Germany, i have ohne question: If you charge at Electrify America. How do you start charging? With an App? With an RFID Card? Or can you charge with Plug and Charge the iD.4 in USA?
There is no plug and charge yet. You can tap your phone like Apple Pay or you can initiate with the app. Plug and charge is supposed to be coming in an ota update this fall
@@EVMotoring thanks
So it is the same like in Europe. :-)
Just tested the ID4 First Edition today after watching your video. Everything seems to be good, except for 2 things: no ventilated seats and the driver assistant really sucks. It won't even hold the car in the lane nor make the turn like the lane-keep on other cars. It appears I have activated all the systems (lane keep mark turns green). Is your car doing the same? or did I setup it wrong?
Where did you use it? It is intended for highway use. Also did you check in the “assist” menu on the infotainment? There are a lot of features that need to be turned on. In previous videos I have also mentioned that I think Autopilot and Ford CoPilot are superior. Unfortunately none of the big 3 EV brands (Tesla, Ford, & VW) have ventilated seats.
@@EVMotoring ironically I was in Hawaii this past August and the ford car I rented had ventilated seats 👍😎 soo worth it!
Subscribed 😊
Nice....
Plugshare has all the addresses
Agreed, you’d be surprised how good PlugShare calculations are plus they are in CarPlay as well
When I test drove an id4 and couldn't get an EA charger to come up in the nav.
Yep, it’s still that way. We have to input the street address
I suspect that you may never get the onboard nav to direct you to EA chargers. At least not in the near-term. Since VW is a major partner with EA it would most likely be viewed as anti-competitive to feature their own charging network in the nav system. I was told recently at my dealership that that was the case, so…
Do you think the in car route planner will get better?
I have 2017 bolt and use a better route planner and an obd dongle to transfer live data the ABRP and that it will give me a pretty good route plan.
I think it will but not sure when
Can we talk about the price of the ID.4? The "MSRP" that all the VW dealers I see list is significantly higher than the MSRP quoted on the VW site. And then they say that destination and dealer processing fee are on top of that. If dealers want to charge a premium that's up to them - but how does an "MSRP" end up being almost $2K more than the MSPRP quoted on the VW site? Was this your experience too?
We did not encounter any of these issues. Our car was preordered tho and I know VW was very strict on dealers that they could not do any funny business on preorders
I was told by VW that the MSRP was exactly that, the SUGGESTED retail price and that dealers are free to set their own prices. I believe there was a disclaimer to that effect on their website.
May be VW should buy Better Route Planner cause they have proven that they are horrible at writing software!