To me it looks like t5 and t6 in max melee only changes DPS by like 1.8 in most situations, where t5 and t6 changes DPS entirely for range in certain cases.
Masteries are interesting because of the different breakpoints with different weapons. T6 seems like something you commit to if you're all in on one style, especially with ranged. T3 is great with 4 tick weapons that will get the same effect from T5, and specifically busted with Drygore Blowpipe which will be 1 tick with great accuracy. T2 mage is specifically great with shadow or other 5 tick magic since it gives you 20% damage bonus on every hit. This really makes me consider a 5-3-2 spread with scythe, drygore blowpipe, shadow to just hit insanely hard with every style, no need for the tier 6 prayer penetration.
t6 ranged is insane, most range armor is just accuracy, only masori or void gives ranged damage. You can wear full justi and still do as much damage as wearing full arma. Eclipse? You can wear all the melee armor for str bonus and still be 100% accurate. You can range things that you cant normally because of their ranged defence. Sol? Tbow is bis. Duke and Verzik have 300 magic level too.
@@QbiKz You lose out on 8 ranged strength swapping masori for justicar. But if you're taking frem it basically doesn't matter. Having the extra 200+ def, damage reduction AND prayer bonus is insane
People are misunderstanding the t6 melee relic a lot. Remember that each echo is 50% of your max hit, not 50% of the hits max hit. So if you get 8 echo procs, thats 500% max hit potentially. I dont know, sounds pretty good to me. And its CONFIRMED on discord that each hit splat procs its own echo hits.
I thought some mod confirmed that this is not the case in the discord Cba to search for it again, but I believe he said for scythe: if the small hit procs an echo, the echo will be a small hit That would also mean that this effect is just as good for SRA as it is for scythe, on average
@@Daerric its goes 1tick at tier 3. the blowpipe wont be the best range weapon, but the bp's will get you your tbow etc and thats the point. Also the math has been done on all these tiers, and Melee is WAY behind the other two. ZCB goes from 5 tick to 2 tick at tier 5, when u have ruby or onyx bolts when u cant miss, i mean....*BRUH*. AND at tier 6 you can(due to passive) never fail to hit less than 30% of ur max every time you fire. Ever. Against anything. Always.....like....Go ranged dude lol.
@@midianet2 Well if your hitting 200+ and healing for 40% of that. your pretty much going from 1 hp to 99hp. Sure you can rock cake down again but that is extremely annoying.
Hey guys could you give me your opinion, not sure if b0aty runs this channel but it would be great if i can get his 2 cents as well. For a 6 melee 4 range split on the combat masteries: OK im not a very technical player nor do i really min max often in the games i play but ive been taking a look at the echo equipments and they have some really cool effects My intention is to build around the Thunder Kopesh and Thousand dragon ward from wilderness. in a melee 6 range 4 build. I am particularly interested in the wilderness equipment. Although i am really not a PVP player, I've heard and read that the wilderness is generally safe in leagues, there will be 1 or 2 guys killing people but death wise, ill be safe as the tombstone gets sent to spawn as well. and its pve deaths so no actual loss. I am thinking of either going morytania first for barrows equipment, plus the echo for the first stage of the league. or Tirwnnyn (prif henceforth) for crystal gear and the echo which extends the armor's buff to all melee weapons. after which i will unlock the wilderness for dragons and access to the Thunder Kopesh and 1k Dragon ward combo. the thunder kopesh in particular seems pretty busted with all its effects. (1. 2 hit attacks, with an additional hit if either attack lands. 2. an additional 3x3 tile attack at 50% Max damage with a 25% chance to proc. 3. full damage dealt to CORP. The shield is also fantastic with better stats across the board vs avernic defender with a 4 more str on top. 1. I'm not sure if i can solo KBD as wilderness 1st area unlock with just rune equipment. so i probably need either barrows equipment or crystal. before unlocking the wilderness. (thoughts?) 2. it seems like quite an attainable goal for a high end casual player. does this seem viable? 3. 3rd area unlocks?
If you are worried about whether you are good enough to kill KBD/ Echo KBD with rune gear then you probably aren't good enough to do gauntlet or nightmare or TOB. Its hard to gauge your skill level but as it reads you are probably more suited to Wildy Fremmy Kandarin or Valmore Wildy Fremmy. The million dollar question is: can you do corrupted gauntlet in the main game, if so you can do Echo kbd with rune
T6 melee is a 1/5, 1/25, 1/125, 1/625, 1/3125, 1/15625, 1/78125, 1/390625 for each hit the chances are awful for extra damage even with the scythe especially due to the seperate calculations
@@ThisGingerYeti Actually it just works for melee, in addition to it already working with crystal bow/bowfa. Unfortunately doesn't work for other ranged weapons or mage weapons.
@SuacoRV i might suck at math or understanding their wording, but with magic t6 you basically execute anything under 190% of your max hit. You get +50% max hit and then if you wait 8t you get another +40% so 190% damage. If the +50% max applies after the +40% extra damage then it's 210% max hit execute threshold.
@@travismolnoskey2745 He is talking about an interaction where the first hit is not sufficient to execute the monster. In that case, if you fire the second shot before the first one hits (with t5 relics), it usually will not detect that the monster hp would have already been lowered to below the threshold required for the execute once the first hit lands, and so the second shot will also not have the execute effect.
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To me it looks like t5 and t6 in max melee only changes DPS by like 1.8 in most situations, where t5 and t6 changes DPS entirely for range in certain cases.
Funny new leak today allows you to melee zulrah, so you do have more options
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Masteries are interesting because of the different breakpoints with different weapons. T6 seems like something you commit to if you're all in on one style, especially with ranged. T3 is great with 4 tick weapons that will get the same effect from T5, and specifically busted with Drygore Blowpipe which will be 1 tick with great accuracy. T2 mage is specifically great with shadow or other 5 tick magic since it gives you 20% damage bonus on every hit. This really makes me consider a 5-3-2 spread with scythe, drygore blowpipe, shadow to just hit insanely hard with every style, no need for the tier 6 prayer penetration.
t6 ranged is insane, most range armor is just accuracy, only masori or void gives ranged damage. You can wear full justi and still do as much damage as wearing full arma. Eclipse? You can wear all the melee armor for str bonus and still be 100% accurate. You can range things that you cant normally because of their ranged defence. Sol? Tbow is bis. Duke and Verzik have 300 magic level too.
Would you not roll lower hits because of having lower range bonus?
@@QbiKz You lose out on 8 ranged strength swapping masori for justicar. But if you're taking frem it basically doesn't matter. Having the extra 200+ def, damage reduction AND prayer bonus is insane
@@QbiKz rolls are 100% RNG after you roll a hit on the accuracy check.
I’m really hoping one of the highest tiers of relics gives us +1 combat mastery
People are misunderstanding the t6 melee relic a lot. Remember that each echo is 50% of your max hit, not 50% of the hits max hit. So if you get 8 echo procs, thats 500% max hit potentially. I dont know, sounds pretty good to me. And its CONFIRMED on discord that each hit splat procs its own echo hits.
I think the echo is based on the power of the hitsplat that creates it.
I thought some mod confirmed that this is not the case in the discord
Cba to search for it again, but I believe he said for scythe: if the small hit procs an echo, the echo will be a small hit
That would also mean that this effect is just as good for SRA as it is for scythe, on average
That's about 7% dps increaese
I need to know this.. so t2 if my max is a 20 but i hit a 2 will the echo always be a 10 (50% of my max) or will it be a 1 (50% of my hit)
@@TravagGamesrolls damage with 50% cap, so you could hit a 1 and then echo 23 or something
The echo blowpipe and ranged never missing is going to be crazy, it’ll be reduced to a 1 tick weapon that never misses
The tbow is crazy too. It’s bis at sol and tob beats the scythe with max melee everywhere lol
echo blowpipe already has crazy accuracy; the t6 is kinda redundant with that one
@@Daerric its goes 1tick at tier 3. the blowpipe wont be the best range weapon, but the bp's will get you your tbow etc and thats the point. Also the math has been done on all these tiers, and Melee is WAY behind the other two. ZCB goes from 5 tick to 2 tick at tier 5, when u have ruby or onyx bolts when u cant miss, i mean....*BRUH*. AND at tier 6 you can(due to passive) never fail to hit less than 30% of ur max every time you fire. Ever. Against anything. Always.....like....Go ranged dude lol.
@ fair points; was just thinking of the blowpipe itself at 6, didn’t consider it just as a tool to get zcb/tbow
The regular blowpipe is gonna be stronger than echo BP with T6. regular pipe has higher max hit and spec, while both will be 1T and never miss.
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That T6 ranged one changes everything. And sadly that melee heal one fucks the DH meta i wanted to do.
Same man lol got me re thinking morty
How so? I assume you are going to have the orb or dwarven cake to low your hp if you heal just bring it down again...
@@midianet2 Well if your hitting 200+ and healing for 40% of that. your pretty much going from 1 hp to 99hp. Sure you can rock cake down again but that is extremely annoying.
@@HavocParadox What about total recall, you can save your 1hp and keep teleporting back to that to reset. But yeh still kinda annoying.
@@RockofVengeance honestly not really that good unless you go to godwars. but even still it doesn't work in instances so it pretty useless
With t6 range you don’t even need BP. Never missing means you can use dragon darts in full justi with a shield and shred things
bp adds 20 ranged strength, not worth lol
they also said you can melee zulrah aslso in the qol reveals today
This build looks incredibly strong for melee. I'm guessing a lot of people go with these regions. I plan on taking F-Kand-M and going mage
Excuse me.. Void with dark bow????
blowpipe ddarts at t3 range is better dps at zuk than twisted bow with dragon arrows. obv it doesnt really reach but its just wild
I can't believe boaty doesn't follow 6guy
did they confirm if kapesh lightnings can proc the t6 relic?
yes the kopesh's lightning can proc echo hits, but echo hits can't proc lightning
Did he just read the tiers backwards?
blowpipe will be a 1tick weapon starting from tier 3 instead of tier 5 which is op
Hey guys could you give me your opinion, not sure if b0aty runs this channel but it would be great if i can get his 2 cents as well.
For a 6 melee 4 range split on the combat masteries:
OK im not a very technical player nor do i really min max often in the games i play but ive been taking a look at the echo equipments and they have some really cool effects
My intention is to build around the Thunder Kopesh and Thousand dragon ward from wilderness. in a melee 6 range 4 build.
I am particularly interested in the wilderness equipment. Although i am really not a PVP player, I've heard and read that the wilderness is generally safe in leagues, there will be 1 or 2 guys killing people but death wise, ill be safe as the tombstone gets sent to spawn as well. and its pve deaths so no actual loss.
I am thinking of either going morytania first for barrows equipment, plus the echo for the first stage of the league. or Tirwnnyn (prif henceforth) for crystal gear and the echo which extends the armor's buff to all melee weapons.
after which i will unlock the wilderness for dragons and access to the Thunder Kopesh and 1k Dragon ward combo. the thunder kopesh in particular seems pretty busted with all its effects. (1. 2 hit attacks, with an additional hit if either attack lands. 2. an additional 3x3 tile attack at 50% Max damage with a 25% chance to proc. 3. full damage dealt to CORP.
The shield is also fantastic with better stats across the board vs avernic defender with a 4 more str on top.
1. I'm not sure if i can solo KBD as wilderness 1st area unlock with just rune equipment. so i probably need either barrows equipment or crystal. before unlocking the wilderness. (thoughts?)
2. it seems like quite an attainable goal for a high end casual player. does this seem viable?
3. 3rd area unlocks?
If you are worried about whether you are good enough to kill KBD/ Echo KBD with rune gear then you probably aren't good enough to do gauntlet or nightmare or TOB. Its hard to gauge your skill level but as it reads you are probably more suited to Wildy Fremmy Kandarin or Valmore Wildy Fremmy. The million dollar question is: can you do corrupted gauntlet in the main game, if so you can do Echo kbd with rune
I think I'ma do 6 melee, 3 ranged, 1 mage
T6 melee is a 1/5, 1/25, 1/125, 1/625, 1/3125, 1/15625, 1/78125, 1/390625 for each hit the chances are awful for extra damage even with the scythe especially due to the seperate calculations
It's a 20% chance on each hit splat so I don't think the way you're figuring it is how it will work.
when did he decide to go tirannwn over varlamore?
Hunlef echo item makes crystal armour acc n dmg boost affect all styles instead of just range. Making it BIS i think for melee. Hence the switch
@@ThisGingerYeti Actually it just works for melee, in addition to it already working with crystal bow/bowfa. Unfortunately doesn't work for other ranged weapons or mage weapons.
Isn't range just the best? 1 tick blowpipe that never misses.
echo t6 is useless its 112.5% vs 105% from the basic echo if the echoes apply 50% to the next, but 125% if they dont reduce so maybe worth.
Its still a good and fun one. The ranged one is godlike and the magic one sucks hard if you consider the travel time of magic attacks.
I’m pretty sure it’s 112.5% if they don’t decrease and 111.1% if they do decrease
They confirmed the echoes are always your 50% max hit, not 50% of the last hit in the discord
@SuacoRV i might suck at math or understanding their wording, but with magic t6 you basically execute anything under 190% of your max hit. You get +50% max hit and then if you wait 8t you get another +40% so 190% damage. If the +50% max applies after the +40% extra damage then it's 210% max hit execute threshold.
@@travismolnoskey2745
He is talking about an interaction where the first hit is not sufficient to execute the monster.
In that case, if you fire the second shot before the first one hits (with t5 relics), it usually will not detect that the monster hp would have already been lowered to below the threshold required for the execute once the first hit lands, and so the second shot will also not have the execute effect.
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