Hi, that kind of backpack has been part of my life for more than 20 years, love it. The thin straps were never a problem when I was doing my first round of military service, there was always a flak jacket between the straps and the flesh, it was not comfortable though to carry anything heavier than 15 kg in it. We also had a bunch of frames but with the bag removed for carrying radios, ammunition or cable rolls. We still use the frames for those purposes even if we got new modern backpacks quite a few years ago. I recently bought the medic version of the bag for civilian use, LK35 SJ. It's the same metal frame, but the bag portion is only half the size, leaving a large part of the metal frame exposed for attaching pretty large items, I strap my shelter system there and keep the bag portions for clothes and food. The medic version also comes with a basic but functional waist belt, making it more usable for heavy loads compared to the basic version. Thanks for the great videos!
I know this vid came out ages ago but I bought this pack from Luke in his most recent run of his personal gear sell off. To answer your question, no he didn't do anything to the pack. I have it doing double time as an emergency pack in the family car and weekend hike/camping runs. It smells like an addict and still has it's storied repairs on it.
Hello... got my pack from Coleman's yesterday... the first modification I have completed is ... I removed the two webbing straps that run horizontally across the frame and installed Molle waist belt and neck straps... Its made it much more comfortable to carry... my next project is to replace the closures with quick release buckles...
Although this video is almost 5 years old, I'm glad to have found it. Recently, I found an antique external frame and pack, thin black nylon with red piping, thin shoulder straps with no padding at a Salvation Army thrift shop for $4.99. I took it on a test hike however I used two sheepskin seatbelt covers on the straps to give my shoulders some semblance of comfort. The frame is in excellent shape and I recently bought a German Flecktarn mountain camo pack and my DIY project is to mount the pack on this "salvation" frame. I use the Flecktarn pack on weekend bushcraft jaunts; however, I would like to use it on extended trips and the addition of the frame seems to be the answer. Thanks, Luke, for the idea! I would love to see your finished product in a video.
I call my rucksack Zeus ( LK 35), because I can carry my small world on my back. I normally carry a Camel bag 2.5 L., simple cooking set including the stove, food, a change of clothes, tent, sleeping bag, mattress, two tarps (bottom and top), a pharmacy, two knifes, a machete and all the bits and bobs for bushcraft . You know what? I still have space for more. Just discover and adapt this rucksack to your body, there are a few ways to fix the straps to the frame( just follow their natural lines)be creative and make a few trips before any adjustment. I made a very comfortable pad for the lumbar support, a little "chest strap" and military belt that just go around the frame.
The Swedish army also used this backpack system to carry big radios and grenade shells mounted directly on the frame with straps. Obviously the rucksack part was removed when using it for that.
I got 3 pack of these from Sportsman's Guide a few years ago (dirt cheap). I removed the frame from one of them and used it for my Alice pack (which i didn't have a frame for) I used the Alice shoulder straps. I found that the Alice pack didn't sit all the way down on the bottom platform. this actually was good since it allowed a solid platform for Tent or bed roll...All in all I think the frame is the best feature and fits better than an Alice frame (with modifications) Oh and the Swedish pack without the frame works very well for light packing as well.
I have this LK35 in cordura and it’s is stamped as “Haglof’s” they make some serious backpacks. Added a waist belt (padded) and two Swedish side pouches Love it. Not changed the shoulder straps.
Similar to my first externally framed rucksack that I bought from an army surplus place about 30 years ago. Mine had a longer frame that ended in an 'L' shape, for strapping your sleeping bag to, but the rest is pretty much the same. Same lower back support (mine was laced to keep it taught), and no hip belt, I made one for mine from an old car seat belt. Best bit about external frames is that you can do just that, and add bits you need.
I'd say that the inside sleeve is almost certainly for the old, metal box military radios, like the PRC 77. It looks about the right size. (The inside sleeve of the old alice pack was specifically designed for the 77.)
I'm from sweden and that rucksack has been used in swedish army for ages. I think we still useing it. And there are a 70L version of it to. We dosent update our gear so often but hey it most be some pretty good quallity if we still use the gear right ? we got some pretty good surplus gear you should look up. The uniform M90 is something I love. Thanks for your awesome videos!
Those are nice packs, there's a lot to work with if your the type that likes to modify. I've been looking at that pack for a couple of months now but I just haven't pulled the trigger yet, I hope you do some update videos as you go with it.
I'm curious if you have made any upgrades on it so far. I've seen some upgrades on the net though. I do wonder if you have found some idea for an upgrade not showed on youtube yet. :-) It's an old video, I know, you might not even have it any more. If you have it it and have upgraded it, it would be fun to see a follow up. :-)
Definitely a project pack. Not too much $ into it up front. The frame and base pack make it fine to add and adjust a few things, like straps, buckles, padding, maybe a grab handle on top, pockets along the sides, the RUclips has fine examples already. Have fun. Texas
That steel frame seems like it would make attaching your own straps super simple. Also, that main pocket is so damn big, there's practically an echo to be heard when you're looking into it.
It looks a bit like the fjallraven backpacks.. with added framework. They make some amazing old school looking backpacks too.. nice little purchase Luke. Take care bro, and have an amazing Christmas!!
I have one of these and they are not the most comfortable, and yes they are as basic as it gets, however I bought mine second hand and it is perfect, like new, and the shop that sold it gave it , (I can't believe this) a LIFETIME guarantee , Yep second hand with a lifetime guarantee, I suppose you could and can modify them ( they are made so you can remove the canvas and carry Gerry cans) but i Think I will leave mine original. regards
Saweet brother!! I'll say it again. You should try to find you a Swiss Military rubberized rucksack. There's a small one an there's a large one. I think the small one is like 50l and the large is 80l, (Don't know how accurate that is)!! I have the smaller of the two and man let me tell ya. BOMB PROOF!! I think you'd love them!!
Cool man, sounds good. Everytime I go hiking I use mine. Best pack I ever baught. But I'm starting to get into some of the pack you show also. Just can't afford those. Wish I could if the economy would get better. Lol
The onlyone I found is the version before LK70 but that version is 60 liters. (and not part of the LK-series) by the way MCQBushcraft has updated the videoinfo now, it includes a list on rucksacks. His version is an LK35
How on earth you can get away with 35L overnight?! We (in the UK) use 65L as standard for overnights (2 nights normally)... Would love to see an overnighter with this one Luke! TheOutdoorGearReview
Hey there brother, for whatever reason most of the time I can't reply to your comments. This one I can. Who knows. With a 35L pack and an overnight trip, you definitely have to focus on light weight, small gear. Back in the Fall I did an overnight trip into the back country with a 36L pack. Return to Pisgah - Overnight Adventure - The Outdoor Gear Review
Hi, that kind of backpack has been part of my life for more than 20 years, love it. The thin straps were never a problem when I was doing my first round of military service, there was always a flak jacket between the straps and the flesh, it was not comfortable though to carry anything heavier than 15 kg in it. We also had a bunch of frames but with the bag removed for carrying radios, ammunition or cable rolls. We still use the frames for those purposes even if we got new modern backpacks quite a few years ago. I recently bought the medic version of the bag for civilian use, LK35 SJ. It's the same metal frame, but the bag portion is only half the size, leaving a large part of the metal frame exposed for attaching pretty large items, I strap my shelter system there and keep the bag portions for clothes and food. The medic version also comes with a basic but functional waist belt, making it more usable for heavy loads compared to the basic version. Thanks for the great videos!
ksmolsen Thank you for sharing so much of your insight and experience ksmolsen!
ATB my friend.
- Luke
ksmolsen which bag would you recommend the canvas or the nylon version?
I know this vid came out ages ago but I bought this pack from Luke in his most recent run of his personal gear sell off. To answer your question, no he didn't do anything to the pack. I have it doing double time as an emergency pack in the family car and weekend hike/camping runs. It smells like an addict and still has it's storied repairs on it.
Hello... got my pack from Coleman's yesterday... the first modification I have completed is ... I removed the two webbing straps that run horizontally across the frame and installed Molle waist belt and neck straps... Its made it much more comfortable to carry... my next project is to replace the closures with quick release buckles...
Although this video is almost 5 years old, I'm glad to have found it. Recently, I found an antique external frame and pack, thin black nylon with red piping, thin shoulder straps with no padding at a Salvation Army thrift shop for $4.99. I took it on a test hike however I used two sheepskin seatbelt covers on the straps to give my shoulders some semblance of comfort. The frame is in excellent shape and I recently bought a German Flecktarn mountain camo pack and my DIY project is to mount the pack on this "salvation" frame. I use the Flecktarn pack on weekend bushcraft jaunts; however, I would like to use it on extended trips and the addition of the frame seems to be the answer. Thanks, Luke, for the idea! I would love to see your finished product in a video.
I call my rucksack Zeus ( LK 35), because I can carry my small world on my back. I normally carry a Camel bag 2.5 L., simple cooking set including the stove, food, a change of clothes, tent, sleeping bag, mattress, two tarps (bottom and top), a pharmacy, two knifes, a machete and all the bits and bobs for bushcraft . You know what? I still have space for more. Just discover and adapt this rucksack to your body, there are a few ways to fix the straps to the frame( just follow their natural lines)be creative and make a few trips before any adjustment. I made a very comfortable pad for the lumbar support, a little "chest strap" and military belt that just go around the frame.
The Swedish army also used this backpack system to carry big radios and grenade shells mounted directly on the frame with straps. Obviously the rucksack part was removed when using it for that.
I got 3 pack of these from Sportsman's Guide a few years ago (dirt cheap). I removed the frame from one of them and used it for my Alice pack (which i didn't have a frame for) I used the Alice shoulder straps. I found that the Alice pack didn't sit all the way down on the bottom platform. this actually was good since it allowed a solid platform for Tent or bed roll...All in all I think the frame is the best feature and fits better than an Alice frame (with modifications) Oh and the Swedish pack without the frame works very well for light packing as well.
I love that Thors hammer is there for cinching up the top. A nice touch
I had this backpack in my army time and we use to cut of pices of common sleeping mats and add it to the straps with some silver tape :-)
I have this LK35 in cordura and it’s is stamped as “Haglof’s” they make some serious backpacks. Added a waist belt (padded) and two Swedish side pouches
Love it. Not changed the shoulder straps.
Similar to my first externally framed rucksack that I bought from an army surplus place about 30 years ago. Mine had a longer frame that ended in an 'L' shape, for strapping your sleeping bag to, but the rest is pretty much the same. Same lower back support (mine was laced to keep it taught), and no hip belt, I made one for mine from an old car seat belt. Best bit about external frames is that you can do just that, and add bits you need.
I'd say that the inside sleeve is almost certainly for the old, metal box military radios, like the PRC 77. It looks about the right size. (The inside sleeve of the old alice pack was specifically designed for the 77.)
got me 2 seatbelt shoulder pads at wal mart 4 my alicepack , made of lambs wool .worked great and cheap too .
hi, what modifications did you make to this pack? Cheers, Jack
I'm from sweden and that rucksack has been used in swedish army for ages. I think we still useing it. And there are a 70L version of it to. We dosent update our gear so often but hey it most be some pretty good quallity if we still use the gear right ? we got some pretty good surplus gear you should look up. The uniform M90 is something I love. Thanks for your awesome videos!
Thank you for sharing the information brother.
Take care of yourself.
- Luke
We dont use LK35 or LK70 anymore. We use Stridssäck 2000 (Combatsack 2000) But there is a new rucksack comming in a few years
Another good thing about this pack is that you can sling your rifle on the frame.
That is a great old school looking back pack. Maybe u will like to consider mounting it to the FILBE main frame. Just a suggestion.
Those are nice packs, there's a lot to work with if your the type that likes to modify. I've been looking at that pack for a couple of months now but I just haven't pulled the trigger yet, I hope you do some update videos as you go with it.
I'm curious if you have made any upgrades on it so far. I've seen some upgrades on the net though. I do wonder if you have found some idea for an upgrade not showed on youtube yet. :-)
It's an old video, I know, you might not even have it any more.
If you have it it and have upgraded it, it would be fun to see a follow up. :-)
Definitely a project pack. Not too much $ into it up front. The frame and base pack make it fine to add and adjust a few things, like straps, buckles, padding, maybe a grab handle on top, pockets along the sides, the RUclips has fine examples already. Have fun. Texas
That steel frame seems like it would make attaching your own straps super simple. Also, that main pocket is so damn big, there's practically an echo to be heard when you're looking into it.
I have that one and the 70l but the straps do need changing.
It looks a bit like the fjallraven backpacks.. with added framework. They make some amazing old school looking backpacks too.. nice little purchase Luke. Take care bro, and have an amazing Christmas!!
Brother I hope you have an awesome Christmas as well.
Do you have an Fjallraven backpack? I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
Okay I'm sold on it, maybe, where would one get new shoulder straps for this pack? And yes, I picked one up today at a local army surplus store.
It looks like some MOLLE I or MOLLE II straps would work. I have upgraded my ALICE system to MOLLE and may try the ALICE II straps on this one.
What kind of modifications did you do to the pack? I just bought one, and I want to know what you've done to yours.
Excellent project pack
It would be super cool if you did a backpacking trip with all military surplus items!
Love the idea! That's going to be happening soon. :)
It looks like the molle ii straps could be modified to work with the pack.
Bluelineknives I think you are right my friend.
I have heard from other viewers that they were able to rig something up with them.
Cheers.
- Luke
Bonjour Patrice from Montréal
witch frame you chose A.L.I.C.E. or Swedish Military 35L Rucksack with Steel Frame. even any others frame.
Hi there from the UK , can this pack be used without the frame? Cheers
Where can I get one here in the states? Google just gives me a British website, dunno if they ship em here.
fits the large alice pack on the frame . i have the alice pack not the frame
What's the song At the beginning called?
I have one of these and they are not the most comfortable, and yes they are as basic as it gets, however I bought mine second hand and it is perfect, like new, and the shop that sold it gave it , (I can't believe this) a LIFETIME guarantee , Yep second hand with a lifetime guarantee, I suppose you could and can modify them ( they are made so you can remove the canvas and carry Gerry cans) but i Think I will leave mine original. regards
Saweet brother!! I'll say it again. You should try to find you a Swiss Military rubberized rucksack. There's a small one an there's a large one. I think the small one is like 50l and the large is 80l, (Don't know how accurate that is)!! I have the smaller of the two and man let me tell ya. BOMB PROOF!! I think you'd love them!!
Haha My friend I have both of them. The large one is LARGE!!!!!!!! I'll have to do a video on them.
How much does this pack weigh?
good video- gut gemacht
Awesome pack. Have you ever considered doing a review on the A.L.I.C E Pack?
I have thought about it and may have to dig mine out. ;)
Cool man, sounds good. Everytime I go hiking I use mine. Best pack I ever baught. But I'm starting to get into some of the pack you show also. Just can't afford those. Wish I could if the economy would get better. Lol
I second the suggestion for an alice pack review.
MarkW126 I get that done fellas. ;)
Awesome!
Hi just wondering is there a 50L version of this
Alex Sambo If there is I haven't seen it.
- Luke
Theirs a 70 or 75ltr version called the Swedish army LK70 or LK75 whichever it is it looks cool
Stephen Largue I's LK70. :)
There is actually an LK50 I didn't know about, Mike from MCQ Bushcraft has one
The onlyone I found is the version before LK70 but that version is 60 liters. (and not part of the LK-series)
by the way MCQBushcraft has updated the videoinfo now, it includes a list on rucksacks.
His version is an LK35
Very cool
I thought so too brother!
How on earth you can get away with 35L overnight?! We (in the UK) use 65L as standard for overnights (2 nights normally)... Would love to see an overnighter with this one Luke! TheOutdoorGearReview
Hey there brother, for whatever reason most of the time I can't reply to your comments. This one I can. Who knows. With a 35L pack and an overnight trip, you definitely have to focus on light weight, small gear. Back in the Fall I did an overnight trip into the back country with a 36L pack. Return to Pisgah - Overnight Adventure - The Outdoor Gear Review
Ah thanks ill take a look Is it bad that my back has no tent in it and its almost full? xD
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Speak for yourself! 65 litres is a big old pack for one or two nights- I'm in the UK.
Is your attic full yet, dude? haha
Hahaha We are getting closer....
An overnight bag it's not...I have done 8 days out of that bag.
If you've got to make all these mods why not just buy a pack that fits your requirements duh!
My commander had one of those tryed it my was better. Well of course i was a m59
Thanks Wolpe.
Be well.
- Luke