Using a 1999 Power Mac G4 in 2020

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    I take a nostalgic look back at the Apple Power Mac G4. The history of the machine and a look back at the roots of MacOS X, the transition from NeXT and some classic OS9 applications and games!
    My retro gaming podcast: theretrohour.com
    My Twitter: / danwood_uk
    My Facebook: / danwooduk
    Sources in this video:
    Steve Jobs: OS 9 and OS X Preview - Apple WWDC 1999: • Steve Jobs: OS 9 and O...
    Macworld 1999: Apple introduces new and colored Power Mac G3: • Macworld 1999: Apple i...
    Power Macintosh G4 Introduction (Paris 2000): • Video
    The Computer Chronicles - The Macintosh Computer (1985): • The Computer Chronicle...
    The Computer Chronicles - Mac Update (1998): • The Computer Chronicle...
    Steve Jobs WWDC 2002 - Death Of Mac OS 9: • Video
    Legally Blonde (2001) - I'll show you how valuable Elle Woods can be: • Legally Blonde (2001) ...
    Apple PowerMac G4 Commercial - Super Computer (Tanks): • Video
    #retrogaming #retrocomputing #apple

Комментарии • 396

  • @TheFakeVIP
    @TheFakeVIP 4 года назад +9

    Seriously, this video and channel are rediculously and criminally underrated! The production quality of this video is amazing. A great overview of this legendary machine.

  • @ct1660
    @ct1660 4 года назад +32

    Actually, the gigabit ethernet model is called “Mystic”. The “Sawtooth” model was the first revision with AGP graphics, but unlike “Mystic”, it did not have gigabit ethernet or ADC support.

  • @inwork1
    @inwork1 4 года назад +33

    11:20
    Agreed, still using Office 2007 to this very day :)

    • @detechie
      @detechie 4 года назад +1

      @@Lothairecliquennois I use Office 10

    • @amnottabs
      @amnottabs 4 года назад +2

      office 2010 here, if weren't for how bad 2003 handles .dotx format I wonder for how long I could've used it

    • @1tristan247
      @1tristan247 3 года назад

      i use MS Office XP with FrontPage on Win 10

    • @jnel4238
      @jnel4238 3 года назад

      I've got MS 365 from school, but bcs all teachers can see my Office account, i've still use to this day Office 2003 with FrontPath and Visio 2003!

  • @marshal7969
    @marshal7969 4 года назад +105

    Imagine in 20 years from now, "Using an ryzen 3950x in 2040"

    • @MegaManNeo
      @MegaManNeo 4 года назад +16

      "16 cores and 32threads? Oof... We were so poor in 2020"

    • @Tore_Lund
      @Tore_Lund 4 года назад +6

      @@MegaManNeo "WTF, That's like my phone, but only with a 2D display?"

    • @elenchus
      @elenchus 4 года назад +12

      and Intel will still be trying to overclock a processor they designed in 2008 and requiring a new motherboard for it

    • @lodestarlondon8850
      @lodestarlondon8850 4 года назад +3

      remind me in 20 years!

    • @danieltanuwijaya7675
      @danieltanuwijaya7675 4 года назад +11

      "Actually, this is kind of usable today, just don't expect to do anything heavy."

  • @SandyDiVa
    @SandyDiVa 3 года назад +8

    This brought back so many great memories of college! I miss OWNING apps instead of having to be bled monthly by these greedy corporate aholes. CS2 was the last version of the adobe suite i owned. I now use alternative apps that i can still pay for (like ArtStudio on my ipad) because i refuse to pay Adobe for photoshop every single month. Thanks for sharing!

    • @TheCoachZed
      @TheCoachZed Год назад

      Seconded. I bought one of these about a decade after they came out, and used it for a lot of freelance work in my mid-20s. Built a career off a NOS copy of InDesign 2.0 that I bought off eBay. Those days are long gone now....

  • @rwdplz1
    @rwdplz1 4 года назад

    I drooled over these in magazines when they came out, and finally got one in college in 2008, a 'Digital Audio' Server with dual processors. Maxed out the RAM, added a large IDE hard drive and DVD burner, and a NOS zip drive kit, and a USB 2.0 PCI card. It was still very usable in the late 00's, and still works today if a bit slow.

  • @sonsofblades
    @sonsofblades 4 года назад +2

    I used a G4 Digital Audio. Such a wonderful machine. Makes me want to go hunt another one down.

  • @bencekiss4693
    @bencekiss4693 2 года назад

    Thank you! This was a really handy and informative video! I’ve just bought a PowerMac G4 for $47. I love old Macs. It’s really good to see how far technology has come since the late 90’s.

  • @johncate9541
    @johncate9541 4 года назад

    I dated a woman in the early 2000s who was a college student and had a Sawtooth G4. She still has it today and starts it up occasionally to access programs she used back then. I put a bunch of customizations into her OS 9.1 back in the day, and when I saw the machine last year, everything I had done was still on there. She's still using the same OS installation that she was 19 years ago.

  • @jamesburke2759
    @jamesburke2759 4 года назад

    The G4 sticks in my mind the most as it was my own first modern PC as a 14 year old in 2002. Picked up 2 at a garage sale for $100 and apple actually helped me to fix it with free advice from my local store.

  • @theblubus
    @theblubus 3 года назад

    So excited for this video. [Looks down at my Powermac G4 and smiles]
    I have mine tied into my home network so I can mount software images directly off the network and enjoy all the retro mac gaming goodness

  • @Roberto_79
    @Roberto_79 4 года назад

    I had a 1999 G4 dual 800 with 23” cinema screen. It ran OS 9.2 and..... OS X. I saw it in a computer shop and immediately fell in love with it I spent just short of £2000 on it And also got the Karman Hardon speakers and Subwoofer. I ran it for 11 yrs until the connector for the monitor frayed and died and the machine was unable to be upgraded as Apple switched to Intel chips. My big mistake was replacing it with an iMac rather than a G5 power Mac. Now on my eight-year-old iMac is in need of replacement and I am looking at building a Hackintosh as £6000 for the new Power Mac is ridiculous!! I never used it for gaming but bought my first DV camcorder are use that to produce and create DVDs of my skiing holidays with my mates. I miss those days greatly as I find my current iMac system not as user-friendly as back then

  • @rars0n
    @rars0n 4 года назад +3

    I've got a couple PowerMacs sitting around my house, I think one is a G3 and the other is a G4. I also have a dual CPU PowerMac G5 (pretty sweet machine) and a G5 iMac that I've yet to even turn on. I've also got one of the black Macbooks running Snow Leopard and a 2011 11" Macbook Air on High Sierra that I often use in bed for watching Bob's Burgers (my girlfriend falls asleep to that show every night).
    I didn't pay anything for any of these machines. Up until last year I had been working at a local computer repair shop and we'd often get computers brought in to recycle or occasionally someone would just abandon a computer and never pick it back up again. It became a fairly regular occurrence that I'd see hardware I liked too much to let it get shredded so I'd just take it home. I used the G5 PowerMac for a bit a while back after setting it all up with Tiger (on an SSD!), and I gotta say I kinda really like that machine, although its power supply makes loud screeching sounds (coil whine), and surfing the internet was pretty difficult with TenFourFox. It also generated a lot of heat. I do intend to use that machine for something, I might even try Linux on it.
    The G4 PowerMac I only booted up for a fairly brief period of time. It has OS 9 on it. I have to say that I really like the aesthetics of older Mac operating systems. I find it a little frustrating when I have to learn the earlier OS quirks, but it just takes a little adjustment. I'm NOT a Mac guy at all, and until about 4 years ago I steered clear of them completely. It wasn't until I realized that I needed to start repairing them that I really started learning about the OS and became familiar with it. The earlier Mac OSes, especially OS 9, feel more direct and less bloated, while the newer ones generally look nicer, but it doesn't really add to the user experience. In a lot of ways I like OS 9 more than OS X. Tiger and Snow Leopard both have their strong points though, and I feel like Sierra was the modern equivalent of those two, albeit it's far more feature-bloated than any of them.
    Tiger might be my favorite just because it's a PowerPC Mac OS X with the ability to run OS 9 software in Classic Mode. I really think this was the pinnacle of Apple as a company making genuinely good machines for pro users: OS 9 still has a lot of great, useful software for it but Tiger can run even newer software that takes advantage of the more powerful hardware. Tiger will be what I put on the G5 iMac.
    There's also a free G3 iMac at my current job, a green one with early specs, I think it's 333 MHz? It's such a cute little machine, I can't help but save it from scrap. I WILL find a use for it! These old machines are just too nice to throw away. Again, I'm not an Apple guy but I've come around to love some of the old hardware designs and the old operating systems. It's hard to go wrong with a G4 PowerMac, too. The case design alone is brilliant, and unlike the G5 it's super easy to work on (I have another, clean power supply for the G5 PowerMac, but in order to replace it I have to remove the entire motherboard and everything attached to it and I'm just not willing to do that yet). I also have one of the 17" Apple Studio Display CRT monitors, the last CRT they made in the series with the clear chassis. Another freebie I saved from the dump. It looks really nice, but takes up a lot of space, so it's been sitting on the floor since I got it.
    The best part about these machines wasn't surfing the internet, but the huge amount of quality software, especially in the professional realm, that they ran, and they still can run that same software. There's also a lot of legacy hardware that is still useful, stuff like Firewire audio interfaces which aren't even supported at all on modern operating systems but work great on older ones (you can bet I'm going to be using at least a couple of these machines for making music). What was industry standard 20 years ago is now available for practically nothing. You can't ignore that.

  • @BollingHolt
    @BollingHolt 4 года назад

    Nice! I actually just fired mine up last weekend. A friend rescued it from a trash pile for me late last year. Zip drive still works and everything ;)

  • @guspaz
    @guspaz 3 года назад

    A convenient way to play 68K and PPC classic Mac OS games is a Mac Mini G4. The community has gotten OS 9 running on it with bootable install ISOs pre-prepared, and while there are still a few caveats (ex: can't adjust volume, which is stuck at line-level, so powered speakers are required), the compact nature and the modern connectivity (USB, ethernet, HDMI and VGA via DVI-I) make it a pretty neat way to get some retro gaming on your desk.

  • @bobfromsoireegames4309
    @bobfromsoireegames4309 4 года назад

    Amazing video Dan. Goes to show there's more to Dan than fantastic voice and rugged looks!

  • @stevew8513
    @stevew8513 3 года назад

    I really loved Mac OS 8 and 9. I really knew how to get under the hood and keep everything running smoothly. I loved some of the third-party user interface stuff, like Kineticon (great for making animated icons for folders), and Kaleidoscope (crazy GUI alterations promised with OS 8 Copland but never delivered). And there were a decent amount of games made for the Mac back then, I had loads of them. Good times.

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 4 года назад +1

    That was an awesome machine in its day. I still have mine. You can also replace the hard drive with a modern ATA DOM.

  • @foxyloon
    @foxyloon 4 года назад

    On, neat! I'm currently playing around with an old Sawtooth G4 that I upgraded with a motherboard from a Mystic machine. It's currently running Mac OS 9.22 and Tiger 10.4.11, but it chugs with the latter OS.
    I've learned that the upgraded third party processors for these machines are made of unobtainium nowadays, going for "collectors" pricing on eBay when they show up for sale.

  • @chrisridenhour
    @chrisridenhour 4 года назад

    I had the predecessor of this, the beige G3 with OS9. That was a game changer at the time.

  • @desther7975
    @desther7975 4 года назад

    For me, the best Power Mac for retro Mac gaming is one that will run Mac OS 8.6, because that is more compatible with older software than any 9.x version. I have a beige G3 set up for that purpose.

  • @Isthatchicken01
    @Isthatchicken01 4 года назад

    I really love the powermac g4 towers, I just built a sleeper gaming pc out of one of the sawtooth cases.

  • @capmilk
    @capmilk 4 года назад

    Funny how you say "it has only 512 MB RAM, that's what it shipped with". If you take a look at the sticker on the back of the machine visible at 6:09 you can see that it originally shipped with 64MB RAM and a 20 GB hard disk. Apart from that, awesome video.

  • @FloppydriveMaestro
    @FloppydriveMaestro 4 года назад

    I love the case on these. Best case design in years.

  • @jackonslow8505
    @jackonslow8505 Год назад

    Big ups Shrewsbury

  • @funnbuntv
    @funnbuntv 3 года назад

    Salutations from Minnesota! What a fantastic Channel yeah! great video I was considering purchasing one of these to tinker with as I have never worked on macs only pcs thax this was usefull to know about some of the software usability.

  • @aguiristante
    @aguiristante 4 года назад +5

    I have a dual cpu G5 just for how it looks. But it s stil a totaly usable computer

    • @jamescameron149
      @jamescameron149 4 года назад +1

      Beautifully designed workstation-class computer for its time. I keep meaning to buy one. The problem is I don't know where to get software...

    • @ThePaulcarter35
      @ThePaulcarter35 4 года назад +2

      @@jamescameron149 macintosh repository and mac garden are great sites for legacy powerpc software - all classed as 'adandonware' so its all free. Loads of great software on those sites

    • @brkbtjunkie
      @brkbtjunkie 4 года назад

      Andre Guiristante define unusable. I have much older macs I use often.

    • @aguiristante
      @aguiristante 4 года назад +1

      @@brkbtjunkie i wrote usable not unusable. i mean it s still a very usefull computer. Not too good for web browsing though

    • @brkbtjunkie
      @brkbtjunkie 4 года назад

      Andre Guiristante my bad lol

  • @increiblepelotudo
    @increiblepelotudo 3 года назад +1

    I used Macs in 1990 in college. The world was beige and no Napster or internet. (A Gen X'r)

  • @kaiMurchison
    @kaiMurchison 4 года назад +1

    Could I use the mac psu and hard drive in a modern build ??

  • @tziuriky86
    @tziuriky86 4 года назад

    I have the exact same model :D after a ram upgrade and tinkering with the firmware, I was able to install OS X 10.5 even though officially it supports only up to 10.4 :-)

  • @mrnemo204
    @mrnemo204 4 года назад +2

    Wait, gigabit ethernet in 1999?! That is still great today!

  • @realStefanLowe
    @realStefanLowe 4 года назад

    Cool Vid! Still have a Mac Mini G4 (2005)

  • @rdyess2010
    @rdyess2010 3 года назад

    OMG! Four years later and still no mention of Hypercard???

  • @BBnose
    @BBnose 4 года назад +1

    I don’t know. I like this old wallpaper and aqua interface more than new Catalina

  • @zmokahbiar
    @zmokahbiar 3 года назад +1

    I wonder who won the sxsw contest just to be disappointed due to the pandemic.

  • @markwheatley2
    @markwheatley2 4 года назад +2

    Great video, fond memories of the G4 - thank you.... but please, please hoover out those chassis fans! :-)

    • @danwood_uk
      @danwood_uk  4 года назад +1

      That was after hoovering lol

  • @bgimusic
    @bgimusic 4 года назад

    15:12 the level of EXTRA what the heck!!

  • @billgates3699
    @billgates3699 9 месяцев назад

    Snore? That’s what you got out of it? A pulsing light is…snoring? It’s called breathing. It’s actually designed to pulse at the same frequency as a person breathing in REM sleep.

  • @connorm955
    @connorm955 3 года назад

    Max of 2gb of ram? That's crazy for 1999.

  • @goblinswillloveu
    @goblinswillloveu 4 года назад

    Didn't they have Netscape?

  • @julian.morgan
    @julian.morgan 4 года назад

    It's a real shame about the wallpaper because I'd love to share this trip down memory lane with my wife, but I know what would capture her interest and attention and it sadly wouldn't be the retro tech :) I had one of these - the 450Mhz version I think - I wish someone made a modern version of these and later Apple cases. I only began to appreciate the sturdiness and practicality of these cases, including my much loved and still working Mac Pro 1,1 when I started DIYing hackintoshes a few years ago. Of course they went on to make many totally flawed designs, but this was very much a time when form and function were sanely balanced and it's how I always think of the 'real' Apple Computer company, before they started making phones and bad decisions in almost equal numbers ;)

  • @horrorlostplaces
    @horrorlostplaces 4 года назад

    I use a g4 ppc Mac in 2020 too. Nothing special about it. Have a emac with best crt monitor at that time. Tenfourfox as browser and powerpc media center for RUclips and videos. All the great games work on it like the videocd games special that came only on Japanese Sega Saturn release like Phantasmagoria or yellow brick road. People who are not in retro should walk around it everybody else own it already.

  • @Valientlink
    @Valientlink 3 года назад

    i'm trying so hard to get my G3 to boot up, the screen keeps flashing off :(

  • @yveice
    @yveice 3 года назад +1

    This dust and dirt inside triggert me.

  • @MaxFleye
    @MaxFleye 4 года назад +3

    I like the wallpaper.

  • @bastardtubeuser
    @bastardtubeuser 4 года назад +1

    All the apple ppc machines were amazing, the G5 was the last tower i used. You could rely on those machines.

  • @jjjacer
    @jjjacer 4 года назад

    sorta miss the styling of OS9, and some of the icons people made around the translucent macs of that era, Now days everything feels like it has to be dark, flat and web based UI wise.

  • @miguimau
    @miguimau 4 года назад

    I don´t use my 2001 Quicksilver but it works great and looks like new; great for Photoshop , awful for internet under Os9 (not bad under Leopard) I´m with @Andrew Clegg great for Unreal Tournament!!! I´m still on a Mac Pro early 2008 but that´s another story. :D

  • @philipproedig
    @philipproedig 4 года назад

    Did you try MorphOS as well?

  • @pyroslavx7922
    @pyroslavx7922 4 года назад +2

    Oh, photoshop 7, i love and use it from the first time i learned it to help someone, and still using it for EVERYTHING graphics related, really got a hold of allmost any function it has, the only problem it has, very rarely it can not read some of newer jpeg and other files, so you open them in Gimp or Paintshop or any free up-to-date ap and re-save them. Voila, solved.
    Time moved on sooooo much, that switching to new Photoshop is kinda like learning entirely new program. Yucks.
    HOW THE HACK do you people get convinced to BUY, yes buy not piratize!!! new software, like new MS Office, when, for example 99% of you do not use functions not available in Office 2003+file converter so it can open newer .docx/.xlsx etc. files???
    WHY WOULD YOU PAY MONEY COMPARABLE TO COST OF LOW_END HARDWARE/COMPUTER FOR NO REASON??? It goes to ALL properitary software use, not just MS and Adobe...

    • @FrankCastleTIG
      @FrankCastleTIG 3 года назад +1

      Yup, love PS7, it's what I learned on. As a photographer I need newer software just to open the various RAW files unfortunately.

  • @skip741x3
    @skip741x3 4 года назад

    dude, you Gotta blow the dust out of that power supply! it looked nasty!

    • @danwood_uk
      @danwood_uk  4 года назад

      That was after air dusting it and vacuuming it lol. It was much worse before.

  • @ebridgewater
    @ebridgewater 4 года назад

    Regarding the question, do we use the short name or full name?
    You should have been clearer as I don't want to be disqualified for choosing the wrong format.
    P.S. I work in Stoke-on-Trent, not too far from Shrewsbury.

    • @danwood_uk
      @danwood_uk  4 года назад

      Elliot Bridgewater either will be fine 😀

    • @ebridgewater
      @ebridgewater 4 года назад

      @@danwood_uk Good man. Wasn't sure if a computer filtered out the results, tis all.

  • @hidazip
    @hidazip 4 года назад +1

    Why you have an iMac in your kitchen??

  • @CarbyGuuGuu
    @CarbyGuuGuu 4 года назад

    Sill using a Mid 2009 MacBook in 2020.

  • @dan3a
    @dan3a 4 года назад

    Freak, I'm a sea away from the UK

  • @TechProYoutube
    @TechProYoutube 4 года назад

    its the Panasonic R.E.A.L

  • @blakestone75
    @blakestone75 4 года назад +232

    Apples incompetence at designing mice is absolutely legendary.

    • @jeremykothe2847
      @jeremykothe2847 4 года назад +25

      That particular mouse... the designer must have drawn it but never actually used it. "Looks good!"

    • @stevenp6761
      @stevenp6761 4 года назад +13

      Magic mouse is insanely good

    • @msciachero
      @msciachero 4 года назад +16

      @@stevenp6761 Except that you cannot use it when you charge it

    • @Mattia_22
      @Mattia_22 4 года назад +4

      Magic mouse 1 buttons are hard af

    • @wendysremix
      @wendysremix 4 года назад +6

      Steven Magic mouse is good if you have baby hands

  • @studiokadaver
    @studiokadaver 4 года назад +15

    Dan I have the “YIKES!” Model. I still love the tiger/ 9 combo. I agree 9 is a great system & totally with you on using old software.

  • @andrewclegg9501
    @andrewclegg9501 4 года назад +13

    Got a B&W G3 the month after they were released to replace my A4000 as my daily driver, upgraded it with a G4 processor later.
    Got a Voodoo 5 for it when PC world were practically giving them away, best Unreal Tournament machine ever.
    Later I bought the rereleased 1.25 MDD which was the last model to dual boot. Then a G5, and then a mid-2011 iMac, upgraded with a SSD, still snappy enough for me.
    Couple of years ago I picked up a FW800 dual 1.42 MDD, and used the hacked version of OS9 so it dual boots OS9, Tiger.
    The onboard audio has failed and I fitted a 2 quid USB audio dongle internally, and amazingly it also works in OS9.
    Of all those machines the 2 I wish I still had are the A4000, and the Voodoo B&W with G4.

  • @patchso
    @patchso 3 года назад +6

    I think I might be the only person in the world who actually liked the 'hockey puck' mouse!

    • @steve293
      @steve293 3 года назад

      HATED THAT THING. IT WAS THE DEVIL! 👿👿

  • @WiBitnet
    @WiBitnet 4 года назад +4

    I'm not in the UK. But the answer to your question is the 3DO. Also, I have a few of these. They are awesome! You can put Linux on them and use them as a web server. A few years ago I did a job for a company and they had a "server room" where they had about 200 of these running Linux. When I asked about it they said that, they were cheap to find and did the job. So, there are some shoe string companies that actually run on these.

  • @flibblesan
    @flibblesan 4 года назад +15

    How well does MorphOS run on that G4?

    • @RasVoja
      @RasVoja 4 года назад +4

      Fast enough, 128mb min, 256-512mb ram optional, max 1.5gb

  • @RamLaska
    @RamLaska 3 года назад +1

    2:37 RIP fruity color schemes.
    I miss the era of translucent plastics in everything from computers to PDAs to irons.

  • @ignitore
    @ignitore 4 года назад +1

    Under snow leopard i consider a mac unusable in real life in 2020. Btw leopard with some tricks like ten4fox can be used but it's a pain. The dual core g4 is still nice to use with leopard, it was a fast machine. So if someome wants to use in 2020: max the ram, ssd and leopard ppc. It can give some satifaction (little) and some noise (a lot).

  • @protocetid
    @protocetid 4 года назад +4

    I miss translucent electronics and you're right Aqua still looks gorgeous. Probably naive of me to have some hope those hardware and software design cues make a return. Have seen cases with partially see through colored plastic, but it's never for modern PCs.

    • @mechamania
      @mechamania Год назад

      You should write Apple. If they do it, again, then every electronics manufacturer will do it, again, iToo...

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid Год назад

      @@mechamania Apple hasn’t been innovative in ages, not even in the area they used to place great importance: aesthetics. They’re a dominant megacorp largely resting on their laurels (yes I know there a small amount of exceptions) because consumers prefer overpaying for a brand name over having healthy markets.

  • @awesomeferret
    @awesomeferret 4 года назад +1

    I feel bad for the winners, they didn't win anything. Thanks coronavirus!

  • @RasVoja
    @RasVoja 4 года назад +1

    Too bad MacOS Classic died. Had better and cleaner look, kernel could be improved.

  • @nonsensicalfox
    @nonsensicalfox 3 года назад +1

    "you can pick them up for almost free"
    That was true until recently, I bought one at a garage sale for $20 last year, earlier this year I sold it on ebay for $200. Absolutely insane, idk what popular RUclipsr mentioned the G4 to spike the price so much, but it helped me pay my rent so I guess I appreciate it, shame I can't get another one though

    • @mechamania
      @mechamania Год назад

      Keep hitting garage sales, if you haven’t been. Some folks check eBay, to price their stuff, but I picked up a 20”, .1ms, 16:9 Toshiba monitor, for fitty cent, last summer...

  • @simonj48
    @simonj48 4 года назад +2

    I got my first mac (and all in one performa) running system 7 and it reminded me a heck of a lot of the amiga workbench. My school used Windows so that was the end of that for me.
    However, for those who want to try Mac OS 9 in an emulator on their PC, look into SheepShaver. Plenty of videos on youtube on how to set it up. Unfortunately there is little in the way of support for OpenGL, so you're pretty much stuck with running applications, or (much) older game.

  • @TheFlyingScotsmanTV
    @TheFlyingScotsmanTV 4 года назад +1

    I used one of those for a year in Soho - developing WebObjects software as a contractor back in 2000. All on OSX Server which was out then . As I'd been working on NeXSTSTEP and OpenStep for the last 6 years if was all pretty much the same to me. I had to go into OS8 for a proper browser as at the time omniweb was pretty bad.

  • @SproutyPottedPlant
    @SproutyPottedPlant 4 года назад +4

    What a beautiful machine, it was my first Mac too, I was so excited when my friend bought it for me! Before then Macs were so mysterious!

  • @Kenny-bw2cz
    @Kenny-bw2cz 4 года назад +3

    You upped your game on this video sir. Great and interesting content!!! I wanted to see the first macosx in action but you topped that by showing us stuff I had never seen like the server! I would like to see more of this type of videos for sure. Great work Dan!

  • @AutistCat
    @AutistCat 4 года назад +4

    I'm so happy to see more posts from you, just wanted to express my love. I subscribed because I'm already a Retro Hour fan and you're an incredible presenter.

  • @xnonsuchx
    @xnonsuchx 4 года назад +2

    I still have a G4 Mac mini (1.42GHz/1GB RAM/Radeon 9200 AGP 4x vid) on my desk running OS X 10.4 Tiger w/ Classic Environment and Debian 8

  • @backmaskmetal
    @backmaskmetal 4 года назад +32

    My absolute favorite Mac of all time. That era was so incredible.

    • @rars0n
      @rars0n 4 года назад +4

      I love the power of the G5, but the case design of the G4 absolutely destroys it. The G5 is an absolute pain in the ass to work on, and honestly the G4 is better in every way. It looks cooler, it's a bit lighter, the handles are way easier on your hands, etc.

  • @Handskemager
    @Handskemager 2 года назад +1

    I have one of these in storage atm, 2x 800 MHz, love it, so fun to play with!
    Really hoping my daughters will like it when they get older.

  • @RasVoja
    @RasVoja 4 года назад +6

    MorphOS, Linux and MacOS X

    • @cool2martini
      @cool2martini 4 года назад

      MorphOS :)
      another life of G3/G4

  • @kitsunemetal
    @kitsunemetal 4 года назад +3

    The powermac series is really well made and it still holds up really well in terms of software.

  • @akaimagez
    @akaimagez 4 года назад +1

    I still run OS9.2 on an iMac G5 with Photoshop 5.0 and Kai's Power Tools. Awesome and so retro. The Sawtooth was great. I had about 5 of them.

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeo 4 года назад +1

    Here in Germany, we have never been all that much into Apple computers on a large scale.
    But I always loved the iMac G3 myself.
    Also while their single button mice felt weird to me when trying it at stores, I have always been fan of the idea to hook up the mouse through the keyboard.
    These days, I know only of the Raspberry Pi 4 keyboard that could do same.

  • @TheMetalMag
    @TheMetalMag 18 дней назад

    my fav machine!!!! I used it until 2016! didn't want to move to Intel Macs and I did so much on my G4 I boosted to the end. VIdeo editing, graphic design... really an excellent computer. Oh for me 10.3.9 was the best MAC OSX and worked so well.

  • @FeelingShred
    @FeelingShred 10 месяцев назад

    from what I've read Apple makes quite nice Laptop Touchpads (mouse) I really liked older Synaptics touchpads, I didn't miss a mouse at all, but then they changed name to Elantech and started making these touchpads that don't have buttons anymore, you press the entire plastic casing down to press the button, it doesn't work as well... I really wish they would keep the classic Synaptics design, some things don't need to change

  • @NicksLocker
    @NicksLocker 3 года назад +1

    i love the nostalgia so much! Nothing compares to late 90's/early 2000's apple computers. This video was so cool to watch. I feel like the only thing stopping me from using my ancient old macs for my office documents, which is what i basically do all day, is that everything i have is saved in google drive and it's hard for these computers to access my google drive folder. if at least tiger or leopard could then yeah sure that would help. they were so ahead of the game with the software virtualization, the dock and kind of the interface of the mac desktop...

  • @NotEnoughSound
    @NotEnoughSound 4 года назад +3

    "Covered with this nice chunky-" I was expecting "Dust"

  • @cjeelde
    @cjeelde 6 месяцев назад

    I found something "wrong" already at 3:58 and that's the keyboard+mouse combo.
    Yikes came with that first USB keyboard and that "puck mouse". The Pro Mouse came in July 2000.
    Of course we can mix and match keyboards and mice later on how we want. But the original setup for Yikes is the keyboard in this video plus the older "puck mouse".
    Which mouse we use later on is not right or wrong, it's personal preference to upgrade or just use what's available.
    Anyways, would love to see an updated version of this video now in 2024! What can you do on internet today with that G4 with the latest possible Mac OS X? What can you do on internet with Mac OS 9.2? Try to load some sites like apple, wikipedia, google (and try to search), youtube, facebook, twitter, tiktok, cnn, macrumors, and so on.
    Will FTP clients work? IRC clients? Which mail clients will work (both POP and SMTP)? Mac OS' own Software Update? Apple's time server in Date & Time?
    I got a PowerBook G3/500 from 2000. You cannot use it with internet anymore. The web is almost "shut down" for these older browsers because of modern security stuff and newer HTML and things like that.
    As I see it, all these older Macs are only retro gaming PCs now. For those older classic games that never got updated for more modern OS versions. Plus if you got some documents for apps like ClarisWorks and WriteNow.
    It's crazy that when these Macs came out in 2000 these were so best! You could do everything! Now you're so limited!
    The problem with today's Macs: how to use these older documents?

  • @shagstars
    @shagstars 4 года назад

    Its funny that a 2009-2010 quadcore i5/i7s are still usable today for games or normal daily usage. But using a 2000 pentium 3 (the fastest you can get) in 2010 was unusable for windows 7 and games and normal usage was abysmal.

  • @BeautifulAngelBlossom
    @BeautifulAngelBlossom 4 года назад

    I had snow white iMac I had 10.3 on I love iMovie it had CD burner but back then there was modern Browser. It borke I had go back to windows grrr I still can't afford new Mac. I love Macs. Oh that Panasonic consual was 3D0

  • @LP6_yt
    @LP6_yt 4 года назад +10

    I do remember these machines very well and was still using my Amiga 500 (with all the enhancements) at the time.
    I'd be interested in a comparison between these two platforms over various tasks.

    • @delscoville
      @delscoville 4 года назад +1

      You can actually run MorphOS natively on the exact same machine he's showing. So you can compare actual benchmarks with an Amiga 3000/4000 with a PPC uprgrade.

  • @florkgagga
    @florkgagga 4 года назад

    Wow this video is intrinsically retro...for another part of the world, one I'll hardly ever set foot on, can't afford to. No way you'll get a thing like this for 100£ unless you have extreme luck. The high quality plastic should be 30£ alone.
    And a room full of iMacs in 99. Cool, but then, you folks had the beeb AND then the Archimedes.
    We had speccies and for some reason apple IIc's. In 1985-88. Or some locally produced nice little machines.

  • @Prelmable
    @Prelmable 4 года назад +4

    I tought you were an Amiga kid.

    • @RasVoja
      @RasVoja 4 года назад +2

      We got Macs thanks to MorphOS

  • @cytro
    @cytro 4 года назад

    Ayee I used to have this PC! We used to play UT GOTY, Quake III and Marble Blast on my G4 533mhz, until the system corrupted and i didn't get around to fixing it. Eventually gave it away to a techy friend who is going to use the case to put a gaming PC in it.

  • @cobberdig
    @cobberdig 3 года назад

    I had a graphite one kicking around for a few years I got it for nothing clearing out an office building probably 2006 - 7 ish I think I ran Ubuntu gutsy 7.10 on it. Was good a machine for the time dual cpus that why the heatsink was massive. I loved the case it was a shame you couldn't easily swap the board for a more modern ATX motherboard.

  • @williama29
    @williama29 4 года назад

    irrelevant Trivia
    there is a North Korea Linux OS called Red star OS that is a Mac OSX like clone rip off that resembles this as well

  • @zincChameleon
    @zincChameleon 2 года назад

    I am using the same machine running Kubuntu Linux 12.04 and all the software works, but it is slow, as slow as an Apple IIe. Is that because Linux is running on virtual machine, rather than making direct calls to the hardware?

  • @RETRONuts
    @RETRONuts 4 года назад

    I had one of them,all I have of it now is the keyboard,(I gave it away)thats really all thats good about it,I can't stand Apple, what Apple want to do is stop people repairing their Apple computer by using a computer repair shop and thats wrong, you should have the right to have your Apple computer repaired where you like...It's silly. PCs are ten times better. This will push people to use a PC instead of a Apple. There is a law in the US that trying to be past to stop Apple from doing this.

  • @Halterung01
    @Halterung01 4 года назад

    Are you sure the codename of your machine is Sawtooth if it has the Gigabit Ethernet?
    I'm pretty sure mine is called Mystic with Sawtooth being the AGP graphics model.
    Not trying to sound smart here, I'm genuinely wondering.

  • @pnvgordinho
    @pnvgordinho 4 года назад +1

    My first Mac. Mine was a little different on the front, looked better. The speaker didn't had that ugly grid.
    I blame that Mac for my Mac "drug" addiction.

  • @alecbruyns4490
    @alecbruyns4490 4 года назад +1

    For a browser, check out TenFourFox

  • @FuZZbaLLbee
    @FuZZbaLLbee 4 года назад +1

    Ow god, the puck mouse, I had to do some flash work using that thing. It was horrible.
    I have the first power Mac in storage, I’ll have to wait a few year before it’s retro :-p