I’m an INFJ. Your point about getting energized via Se (from 06:21 onward) and then being drained in the process of interacting with the outside world seems a paradox at first. But in my personal experience, it depends on which “narrow bands” you choose to focus on within the wide spectrum of Se. For example, I choose to interact with a few select friends, with which we can go on for hours and not feel tired, rather than with a bigger group. Or, I choose to “people-watch” in a park, or train station, etc. where I can run my Ni-Fe without having to directly interact with people. Also, my preferred way of Se interactions is, like you said, doing stuff with my hands. I like doing the dishes, feeding the fish, and I love arts and crafts.
0:05 🙄If my lil' Bro is any indication of the ESxP, I'll have to guess that they don't reflect on their actions? So yeah, they're impulsive. 0:08 The filter isn't the problem, the problem is that they don't (can't?) reflect on their action. 0:41 😏LoL I'm an INTJ who doesn't care what others think of me. I only care if what is said is true/ factual. I'm MC 'Can't touch this' Hammer when it concerns other people's opinion of me. 1:12 Interacting quickly is moot when you're not makin' any sense. My lil' Bro often enters into a discussion with me and he quips fast, unfortunately I think faster and am able to dissect his remarks instantly to see that they don't make any sense, so he loses, then starts yellin' from sheer frustration. 2:16 I'm sure ESxP are able to fit in easily, but this also makes them vulnerable of becoming naive followers. They often succumb to peer pressure & group pressure cauz they mistakenly believe that quantity = quality. 2:43 Whaddaya mean? I always speak my mind, cauz I truly don't care what others think of me. 3:50 I'm pragmatic so am in the moment. Even when I profile people. Then again, as an ambivert I use Si & Ti instead of Ni & Fe. 4:51 With my lil' Bro it's his way or the highway, which is why he's gettin' a divorce for the 2nd time. 6:21 🖐Nope, Im an introvert so I won't get more energy by forcing myself to act as if I'm an extrovert. I rather go with, than against, my nature. 7:14 I do my dishes because I have to. Wanting plays no role in it. I guess this is why I'm a pragmatic. The same goes for breathing, I have to, so wanting plays no role in it. 9:50 I'm hypervigilant so my Se is always on. In my class of gifted people a classmate asked if there were others who were addicted to thinking like he was? To which I replied: I can imagine that there are two types of being addicted to thoughts: 1) When your thoughts only have to do with your inner world, so they are a kind of escape from reality? (🤐aka addiction) 2) When your thoughts lead you to where where the rubber hits the road; where a theory or idea is subjected to a practical test. The difference between 1 & 2 is that only 2 confronts you with reality and then I tend to name this hyperalert and / or metacognition instead of addicted to thoughts. Metacognition and being hyperalert, although both relate to cognitive processes, are two different concepts: Metacognition is the awareness of one's own thought processes and the understanding of the patterns behind it. It can take many forms, such as reflecting on one's ways of thinking and knowing when and how to use certain problem-solving strategies. Metacognition also includes thinking about one's own thought process, such as study skills, memory capacities, and the ability to monitor learning. On the other hand, being hyperalert (also called hypervigilance) is a state in which the nervous system inaccurately filters sensory information and the individual is in an elevated state of sensory sensitivity. This can often be caused by traumatic events or PTSD. People who are hyperalert can become obsessed with scanning their environment for possible threats. They may overreact to loud and unexpected sounds, exhibit an overactive startle response, or become agitated in very busy or noisy environments. In summary, metacognition has to do with the awareness and understanding of one's own thought processes, while being hyperalert refers to an elevated state of vigilance and sensory sensitivity. Both can influence how a person processes information and responds to his environment, but they do so in different ways. My preliminary working theory is then that when there is: I) hypervigilance it is very likely that you are HSP. II) metacognition ” ” ” ” ” ” ” INTJ . III) a combination of hypervigilance & metacognition you are Gifted and the chance is also great that you are existentially depressed. You are then not addicted to thinking, but think more often & deeper because you have received so many sensory signals & intellectual insights. 🧠I myself belong to category III, but cannot imagine otherwise than that everyone belongs to this category, because I have been hypervigilant & thought about my own thought process from my earliest memory. 10:20 🤔Okay, I'm Gifted so I already get too much Se & Ni &Ti?
I get what you're saying in theory, but how practical is this? Considering functions are really brain patterns, question is how easy is it to just switch off Ni and be in Se. Because I've tried in various moments to just be in Se but... Ni prevails. Just asking how practical this is. For me I'd suggest, best thing is energy management
What I'm saying about using Se is largely based on my own experience, I noticed lately that I use Se a lot more nowadays than I used to (say several years ago), and am a lot less repulsed by it than I used to be. I also base this on observing Se doms in my life and noticing the differences between me and them, and how slowly I'm starting to understand them better and I start acting more like them. So since it is partly based on my experience and not only on theory, in my opinion there is a practical side to it, but of course I'm only one person.. I understand that my experience is still subjective and may not be practical for someone else. How easy is it to switch off Ni and be in Se? I'd say yes I agree it's hard. But I also think once you manage to do it sometimes (I really can't explain to you how.. it just happens) you can do it more often because it becomes a habit. But also honestly, I think learning about Se and ESXPs is the most important first step.
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I’m an INFJ. Your point about getting energized via Se (from 06:21 onward) and then being drained in the process of interacting with the outside world seems a paradox at first. But in my personal experience, it depends on which “narrow bands” you choose to focus on within the wide spectrum of Se.
For example, I choose to interact with a few select friends, with which we can go on for hours and not feel tired, rather than with a bigger group. Or, I choose to “people-watch” in a park, or train station, etc. where I can run my Ni-Fe without having to directly interact with people. Also, my preferred way of Se interactions is, like you said, doing stuff with my hands. I like doing the dishes, feeding the fish, and I love arts and crafts.
Well said! Yes we might enjoy Se in smaller amounts at a time basically or only in specific situations, compared to Se doms who can handle much more.
as an infj myself, this is very informative. thank you😊
0:05
🙄If my lil' Bro is any indication of the ESxP, I'll have to guess that they don't reflect on their actions? So yeah, they're impulsive.
0:08
The filter isn't the problem, the problem is that they don't (can't?) reflect on their action.
0:41
😏LoL I'm an INTJ who doesn't care what others think of me. I only care if what is said is true/ factual.
I'm MC 'Can't touch this' Hammer when it concerns other people's opinion of me.
1:12
Interacting quickly is moot when you're not makin' any sense.
My lil' Bro often enters into a discussion with me and he quips fast, unfortunately I think faster and am able to dissect his remarks instantly to see that they don't make any sense, so he loses, then starts yellin' from sheer frustration.
2:16
I'm sure ESxP are able to fit in easily, but this also makes them vulnerable of becoming naive followers. They often succumb to peer pressure & group pressure cauz they mistakenly believe that quantity = quality.
2:43
Whaddaya mean?
I always speak my mind, cauz I truly don't care what others think of me.
3:50
I'm pragmatic so am in the moment. Even when I profile people.
Then again, as an ambivert I use Si & Ti instead of Ni & Fe.
4:51
With my lil' Bro it's his way or the highway, which is why he's gettin' a divorce for the 2nd time.
6:21
🖐Nope, Im an introvert so I won't get more energy by forcing myself to act as if I'm an extrovert. I rather go with, than against, my nature.
7:14
I do my dishes because I have to. Wanting plays no role in it. I guess this is why I'm a pragmatic. The same goes for breathing, I have to, so wanting plays no role in it.
9:50
I'm hypervigilant so my Se is always on.
In my class of gifted people a classmate asked if there were others who were addicted to thinking like he was?
To which I replied:
I can imagine that there are two types of being addicted to thoughts:
1) When your thoughts only have to do with your inner world, so they are a kind of escape from reality? (🤐aka addiction)
2) When your thoughts lead you to where where the rubber hits the road;
where a theory or idea is subjected to a practical test.
The difference between 1 & 2 is that only 2 confronts you with reality and then I tend to name this hyperalert and / or metacognition instead of addicted to thoughts.
Metacognition and being hyperalert, although both relate to cognitive processes, are two different concepts:
Metacognition is the awareness of one's own thought processes and the understanding of the patterns behind it. It can take many forms, such as reflecting on one's ways of thinking and knowing when and how to use certain problem-solving strategies. Metacognition also includes thinking about one's own thought process, such as study skills, memory capacities, and the ability to monitor learning.
On the other hand, being hyperalert (also called hypervigilance) is a state in which the nervous system inaccurately filters sensory information and the individual is in an elevated state of sensory sensitivity. This can often be caused by traumatic events or PTSD. People who are hyperalert can become obsessed with scanning their environment for possible threats. They may overreact to loud and unexpected sounds, exhibit an overactive startle response, or become agitated in very busy or noisy environments.
In summary, metacognition has to do with the awareness and understanding of one's own thought processes, while being hyperalert refers to an elevated state of vigilance and sensory sensitivity. Both can influence how a person processes information and responds to his environment, but they do so in different ways.
My preliminary working theory is then that when there is:
I) hypervigilance it is very likely that you are HSP.
II) metacognition ” ” ” ” ” ” ” INTJ .
III) a combination of hypervigilance & metacognition you are Gifted and the chance is also great that you are existentially depressed.
You are then not addicted to thinking, but think more often & deeper because you have received so many sensory signals & intellectual insights.
🧠I myself belong to category III, but cannot imagine otherwise than that everyone belongs to this category, because I have been hypervigilant & thought about my own thought process from my earliest memory.
10:20
🤔Okay, I'm Gifted so I already get too much Se & Ni &Ti?
Cute little E. coli (I assume with all those flagella) there! An extraverted sensing type, I'd say, living life minute by minute.
Haha yes it is E. coli
I'm a bluecollar & a white collar guy, until on vacation days or healing...I'm a ENTJ/intj too. #TheYelllowBook #TheSimpsonsNarritive
I get what you're saying in theory, but how practical is this?
Considering functions are really brain patterns, question is how easy is it to just switch off Ni and be in Se. Because I've tried in various moments to just be in Se but... Ni prevails.
Just asking how practical this is.
For me I'd suggest, best thing is energy management
What I'm saying about using Se is largely based on my own experience, I noticed lately that I use Se a lot more nowadays than I used to (say several years ago), and am a lot less repulsed by it than I used to be. I also base this on observing Se doms in my life and noticing the differences between me and them, and how slowly I'm starting to understand them better and I start acting more like them. So since it is partly based on my experience and not only on theory, in my opinion there is a practical side to it, but of course I'm only one person.. I understand that my experience is still subjective and may not be practical for someone else. How easy is it to switch off Ni and be in Se? I'd say yes I agree it's hard. But I also think once you manage to do it sometimes (I really can't explain to you how.. it just happens) you can do it more often because it becomes a habit. But also honestly, I think learning about Se and ESXPs is the most important first step.
yeah no