I can't wait for these to come out! Having the ability to go into any Harbor Freight store in the country for their warranty and be back up and running is a game changer!
For a first gen unit, them kinda testing out the water.... Most people won't complain about the lack luster specs. Prices might be a bit high BUT having the ability to purchase locally and the ability to get warranty claims locally is a huge plus!
@@land0mancapt.stupid857 Both Biden and Trump said; 100% tax increase on all Chinese EVs. 50% tax increase on batteries (power station) 25% tax increase on solar panels 25% aluminum Other Chinese goods are exempted All HF tools, jacks, etc are exempted.
@wt9653 haven't read Project 25 huh? Talks of punishing China harsh in trade. PLUS his tariffs of at least 60% on ALL goods. Think about it.. Yes.. the orange Führer did this.
Wondered when the HF folks were going to jump on the wagon with battery power units. They've really advanced a lot in the past few years with their product lineup and quality. Thanks.
Several other companies are less expensive and they will even jump start your vehicle. Leave it to HF to be a couple of years behind on technology LOL.
In the end I'm glad I built my system from discreet components. I gave power stations to my sisters for emergency use (no-name for $0.30/watt-hour!) but for my camper van I wanted lots of watt-hours. Spending enough to get more energy makes my investment high, so I like to be able to replace or upgrade the different parts of the system, rather than replacing a whole power station if, say, the inverter fails. I've already upgraded the battery, easy-peasy.
Curious what inverter/ battery/ panels you went with? I want to build my own but I think for my situation, the DJI 1000 PS makes the most sense though if anything goes wrong I not to confident with the warranty situation. They did hit honor the $200 automatic replacement package with the DJI care more bundle i bought with the Mavic pro 2. I got the runaround until literally the day it expired when they finally sent me the code I needed, which at that point it was no good. They actually mocked me in the chat. Anyway, a good solid warranty is gold but I suppose parting a system makes it less of an issue. I've researched this so much the past few months to the point there's no way of picking the best. Something has to give if you know what I mean
SWEET! It will be very nice to be able to buy a power station at a local store, rather than having to buy online and have it shipped, like is the case with every other big brand power station.
I love Harbor Freight. Been driving myself crazy researching power stations. Now I know where I’m going. Looking forward to your testing video. I have a Honda 2200 gas generator to run my small chest freezer and the frig, a gas fireplace and some prepping stuff. I have a coupe small power packs for our cell phones but looking for a power station to power the Wi-Fi, and charge our devices in case of a longer power outage.
Saw the short yesterday and was in WOW. Thanks for doing this vid with more depth and some specs. Can't wait for the testing and those solar panels as well. Could be a good option from EcoFlow? We'll see.
HF solar options in general have always been higher than the competition. You pay for the convenience of availability in local stores. So it you're looking for price you won't buy HF.
The small one is similar to a Bluetti EB3A. I have 2 that I use as ups for my pellet stoves, but will only run it for 2 hours. With a 12v Lifepo4 battery connect to the solar input I get 10 hours. EDIT Doesn't look like the small one has a UPS feature.
Yes you can buy premade power boxes with lifepo4 battery. But however Better to buy all your separate components and assemble them into your own box. You will get twice the power and run time for your money making your own, than buying one of these from any company. But it is convenient to buy an already made commercial power box. Just that it will cost more.
Agreed. Many will not be smart enough to do so, however and will fall on their dumb sword and gore themselves with these somewhat unreliable offerings with proprietary parts. One bad part condemns the entire unit. Always better to have replaceable components than all in one.
Still have the option to buy at the store. Most components you try to build yourself you have to have an online account to buy anything. It would be nice to buy diy I tried. Don't have a any online account or want to deal with hassle or security risks.
I was waiting for these and the pricing is way off in the market. I just got another Bluetti AC180(around 1080:watt hours)for $411 on special. I think their projected prices aren’t going to sell many units. Too bad The 11,500 tri fuel on the other hand will be in my garage…
@@Mediiiicc Even at 25% off projected prices HF can’t compete.Not to mention the recharge time on the smallest unit is over two hours. I like HF,I just dropped $350 today on the ICON sale.I want to like these,they just can’t compete in current form.
I am pretty sure these predator power stations do not have MPPT solar tracking for the charging circuit and probably just PWM instead. This would explains why the input Max charging voltage is so low. This is going to be a big pass for me. I guess they would be ok if your not planning on recharging it out in the field and instead just planning on charging it back up on wall power when you get home. Charging would be pretty slow with a PWM charging circuit. One of the advantages with MPPT you can have a higher voltage solar panels and still able to charge your power station even in lower light conditions.
The little one has mppt for sure. Looked at one today. Have a coupon. $169. Going to pass though because I already have a Jackery 290 that I have been using for years. 200watt ac output maximum. The little Predator does 350w but it's still only 294 watt hours and the increase in maximum output isn't enough to matter for anything I would use. Besides that the 18650 cells in the Jackery are tried and true. The Predator has "superior" battery tech but I just don't care because there is no practical advantage in my opinion. Many more charge cycles but that means the batteries will just outlive the rest of the unit.
Any release date for the solar panels? These look promising. The 2k looks to be a car campers dream product and love that there are harbor freights pretty much everywhere for support. Glad that they are moving away from Jackery. I would purchase an extended warranty plan since these are essentially the first run in this lineup.
I have about 10 of these lithum inverters from various manufacturers, mostly Ego, Bluetti, Ecoflow and Jackery and really like them. I also made 2 monster sized ones myself with 5KwH each to run the freezers over a week. The reason the one panel didn't come on is because you just tap the on switch, instead of holding it down (unlike Main Power) .
Got you beat. I buy the failed 'all-in-one' power stations, harvest the batteries (which rarely fail) and build my own power stations and have over 20. Ebay (and other online sites) have 'for parts only' defective power stations listed most of the time. The proprietary components, when failed cause the entire unit to be worthless. And even under warranty manufacturers will claim damage caused by surge or misuse and void warranty repair. Better to abuse them back by using the batteries cramed inside. Add an inverter, bms, charge controller and you've got a power station again.
@ good for you but I also have 4 other ways to generate power, each with a backup for each in gas, natural gas, propane and solar. I have 4 types of solar panels including full size rigid, semi rigid and foldable, half of all pieces including batteries are protected in a faraday cage. I have two direct ng hookup to my house and a smart 22kw whole house generator with auto transfer switch.
Established brands are selling at $0.50 per wh on low end, HF will need to be more comparative to get market share. $200 for 294 wh is a premium from non premium brand.
HF has really stepped up their game with the new line coming out. I just picked up and reviewed the 350w power station and I’m impressed. The release is already driving down competitor prices
If 200 is the price of the first one, I'm not terribly impressed. I'd DEFINITELY be waiting for sales or discount coupons before I bought. I will say that the warranty and ease of return is a plus compared to pretty much all other brands.
I like the inverter to battery capacity large enough to run a full size fridge/ or freezer but small enough to be efficient. I find it difficult to believe that the 1500W inverter will surge to 4000W. Also a deal breaker for me the is the solar input with a max of 50V
HF needs to help the RV folks with a model that competes with Genmax 7250. Love my Predator 5000 but it’s not quite powerful enough for full-time boondocking. The Genmax 7250 has the right amount of power in the right overall dimensions. But my Genmax has not been reliable and impossible to get service. Back to using my Predator 5000 and waiting for HF to come out with that next size up.
Can’t wait till you get your hands on those I’m curious to how they perform I’m an EcoFlow guy because of you so I’m kind of curious if Harbor freight the one down the street from my house is gonna perform better or the same because warranty information is always nice when the company is down the street
Well I went to harbor freight yesterday they only have the small one for 200 bucks I don’t want that . When are the big ones 1000 2000 watt are gonna be in stock ? I want the bigger one . I guess I’ll wait . That little one is not gonna do anything but charge your phone it’s not even big enough for a small electric heater. To me it’s a waste of $200 bucks . I rather get the 2000. For the extra juice
Kinda affordable but the 2,000 continues solar generator for a 1000 bucks for that u could buy a bluetti v2 200 for 1100 that's 2600 running and 4000 surge and 2100 watt hour instead of 1600 just seams kinda expensive for a store supposed to be know for cheap stuff and good deals
Not too long ago you could get a 900 watt two stroke generator for 79 bucks with a coupon. Keep fuel in it and you have unlimited power. Literally, for 80 bucks.
No, When there's a disaster that might last for weeks. A solar power and power station are your best friends. When power goes out, they won't sell you gas. No electricity, the pumps don't work. Besides, they will rashion how much you can buy.
Yeah but what can you do with it? The power is so dirty it will fry anything electronic. That means it can run a fridge/freezer and some lights. That's assuming your fridge has zero electronics inside and your lights are not LEDs. Not that useful overall. I own two of those little two-strokes and never use them because I fear breaking stuff.
@@nodak81 Yeah but pretty much all those sensitive electronics convert AC to DC anyway so that dirty power doesn’t matter unless you’re powering an AC motor. Not to mention if you’re powering expensive stuff you’re not using an 80 dollar generator or a 200 dollar harbor freight power supply. You will have enough money and brains to have plenty of clean power without pinching pennies and wondering how to accomplish it.
@@runderwo If an individual is not man enough to source fuel and premix for a situation that requires emergency power then I’d say they deserve a fancy battery in a box.
All gennys should be tri fuel nowadays, especially inverter types. I have their trifuel 13kw from earlier this year but wish they had the inverter before I bought it.
@ go ahead and be reliant on a single source of fuel, I don't care. Guess you don't like options. Storing propane lasts practically forever without gasoline eating away at the components. Trifuel is only slightly more expensive nowadays and you can switch from one to the other while the genny is running. Plus I have an NG hookup to my house so don't even need to leave home 🤣😂🤣
If you bought the replacement plan, they might allow you to exchange your 13k generator for the 11.5k inverter, given that it will most likely be a bit more expensive.
A lady at the store told me the Predator power stations are coming out about a month ago. All popular power station brands now come with a 5 year warranty. EPS is so outdated. Jackery just released a 0 ms UPS. Ecoflow came out with 10 ms UPS They lack Solar charging. The only way to compete with Ecoflow, Bluetti, Jackery, and Anker is the price Better be much cheaper than the competition or there's no future.
I'm hyped so badly for the bigger power stations!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate that I had to use pecron for affordable, but these are going to compete and outperform Pecron customer support.
The problem is after sales service of repairs parts etc. Often these cheaper brands are sold in retail out lets who just shift boxes. Unlike a top brand like Honda they dont have a great network of people who can repair these. But they are much cheaper so just buy a new one after 3 or 4 years
The 50 volts on the biggest unit is gonna be a problem. I think my 340 watt panels are like 39volts. So at best maybe 1 400watt panel. That might produce 300watts for 4 hours a day. Your gonna run out power. Say you have a power outage. Fridge only. Uses probably 1500watts. In 4 hours you put 1200watts back in the unit(from solar). In 2 to 3 days. You are at zero.
your fridge will use about 1400watts a day. From my experience with power units so far. You will not be able to keep a full size fridge running more than 3 days max. With the biggest unit. You just can't put enough power back in from the power your gonna use.
You know what is funny. Anything that charges through usb I can charge my solar panel. If this thing has a usb input well I two ports to charge through solar.
Walk thru a campground and listen to the Honda Generators. Notice how smooth and quiet. Talk to someone as you stand near it. THEN - go listen to the Harbor Freight generators that sound like a screaming demon. Try to have a conversation near it. Imagine trying to sleep near it. No comparison. If it's all you can afford - OK.
I REALLY think as consumers we should boycott any power station manufacturers that build a unit with a smaller Wh than the inverter is capable of. 350W should have 400Wh 600W inverter should be paired with 700Wh the 1200W model should have 1500Wh bank… come on people, let’s require at a minimum the thing can output rating for a full hour. Also, the SOLAR charging should be fast enough to recharge in an hour. Why limit to 30V input? 60V is readily available, and plug in with three panels in series…
But you have to admit the stuff is also getting a little better as well. I remember several years ago you know you bought the tool to use the one or two times and didn’t expect much. Now some of the stuff works very well and doesn’t break or lasts longer than expected. Especially for the once a year type job
@ACommenterOnRUclips Don't be so sure. We have fiber optic internet. In the past 18 months or so, we've had several power outages here on the Texas Gulf Coast. The fiber optic has not lost signal even when the local cell towers have lost power. Cell goes down every time the area loses power. When we power up the Arlo base station along with the wifi router, the video monitoring around the house also works. During the outage caused by hurricane Beryl, we had movie night every evening, complete w AC from a window unit, internet, and even popcorn thanks to our generator and solar generator, fiber optic, and gas stove. We also use an internet phone number to make calls and send texts even though the cell service was out. We added an Ecoflow River 2 to power just the wifi and Arlo, and we have smaller power banks that we bought on sale for several of the wifi mesh extenders. We're totally sold on fiber optic and power banks/solar generators. 80% of the time, when we've lost power, it's been during hot and humid weather. IMO, there's not a cost-effective means to run even a small window ac on battery power more than a day based on only needing to do so only once or twice a year. So we use a very fuel efficient small generator for powering a window ac unit and the fridge/freezer. We store a good bit of gas for emergencies, but I still wish we had a tri fuel generator. But based on past experiences, we should be good for a 7 to 10 day outage with what we have.
@@chris3407 Ahh i guess that went over your head. I didn't ask you WHO was your home internet .. Lets try this AGAIN: WHY do you have a Verizon 5G "home" router/modem when you "already" have phone that has verizon service on it ?? Did you vote for Harris BTW ??
good news, they call them power stations instead of solar generators.... hahahaaaa.... sadly , HF has been raising the prices so watch out your wallet!
@@vacayooper4728 WTAF? Don't you pay attention to current events? There are going to be a minimum 10% tarrif, across the board ,on ALL chinese imports, if you actually believe what the "orange man " said. Unless he's joking? Bluffing?
Great detailed overview but you failed to talk about the size and weight of the power packs. Looking at the specs you showed I must say that is very disappointing. 34lbs for a 1000Wh vs like 21lbs for the new Jackery. Just saying.
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I can't wait for these to come out! Having the ability to go into any Harbor Freight store in the country for their warranty and be back up and running is a game changer!
For a first gen unit, them kinda testing out the water.... Most people won't complain about the lack luster specs. Prices might be a bit high BUT having the ability to purchase locally and the ability to get warranty claims locally is a huge plus!
Plus super coupon sales !!
@@Jasonoid
The prices will change as the Chinese tariff tax skyrocket for the new year.
@@wt9653 I imagine HF will be going out of business sometime within 2 years. Or sooner.
@@land0mancapt.stupid857
Both Biden and Trump said;
100% tax increase on all Chinese EVs.
50% tax increase on batteries (power station)
25% tax increase on solar panels
25% aluminum
Other Chinese goods are exempted
All HF tools, jacks, etc are exempted.
@wt9653 haven't read Project 25 huh?
Talks of punishing China harsh in trade. PLUS his tariffs of at least 60% on ALL goods. Think about it..
Yes.. the orange Führer did this.
Thank you for this, you have one of the best videos out there reviewing these power units. I love that you have 4K. So awesome. Thank you sir.
Wondered when the HF folks were going to jump on the wagon with battery power units. They've really advanced a lot in the past few years with their product lineup and quality. Thanks.
Several other companies are less expensive and they will even jump start your vehicle.
Leave it to HF to be a couple of years behind on technology LOL.
I spoke with guys at the store this week. The tri-fuel 11500w will be available in March 2025... very excited
In the end I'm glad I built my system from discreet components. I gave power stations to my sisters for emergency use (no-name for $0.30/watt-hour!) but for my camper van I wanted lots of watt-hours. Spending enough to get more energy makes my investment high, so I like to be able to replace or upgrade the different parts of the system, rather than replacing a whole power station if, say, the inverter fails. I've already upgraded the battery, easy-peasy.
Curious what inverter/ battery/ panels you went with? I want to build my own but I think for my situation, the DJI 1000 PS makes the most sense though if anything goes wrong I not to confident with the warranty situation. They did hit honor the $200 automatic replacement package with the DJI care more bundle i bought with the Mavic pro 2. I got the runaround until literally the day it expired when they finally sent me the code I needed, which at that point it was no good. They actually mocked me in the chat. Anyway, a good solid warranty is gold but I suppose parting a system makes it less of an issue. I've researched this so much the past few months to the point there's no way of picking the best. Something has to give if you know what I mean
@@triggered-u8d Wrong video. This is about power not drones.
That’s a bot.
@@aday1637 the DJI 1000 PS is a power supply.
SWEET! It will be very nice to be able to buy a power station at a local store, rather than having to buy online and have it shipped, like is the case with every other big brand power station.
Johnny!! Great video! Glad you ended up stopping by Harbor Freight and so nice meeting you this week!!
Thanks Hannah, pleasure meeting you as well ! 🙌🏼
Hit me up if you need spots 👍🏼 😉
I love Harbor Freight. Been driving myself crazy researching power stations. Now I know where I’m going. Looking forward to your testing video. I have a Honda 2200 gas generator to run my small chest freezer and the frig, a gas fireplace and some prepping stuff. I have a coupe small power packs for our cell phones but looking for a power station to power the Wi-Fi, and charge our devices in case of a longer power outage.
that Predator 13kW has my attention.
Push to start, remote start AND pull to start, all 3 fuels .... She is a winner
Saw the short yesterday and was in WOW.
Thanks for doing this vid with more depth and some specs. Can't wait for the testing and those solar panels as well.
Could be a good option from EcoFlow? We'll see.
I have the predator 3500... love it
Im very interested in one of those power stations
HF solar options in general have always been higher than the competition. You pay for the convenience of availability in local stores. So it you're looking for price you won't buy HF.
The small one is similar to a Bluetti EB3A. I have 2 that I use as ups for my pellet stoves, but will only run it for 2 hours. With a 12v Lifepo4 battery connect to the solar input I get 10 hours.
EDIT Doesn't look like the small one has a UPS feature.
Would love to see a 240v duel fuel around 6-7000 watts from HF.
Agreed,there is a hole in the mid size models available.
Dual vs duel.
Yes you can buy premade power boxes with lifepo4 battery. But however Better to buy all your separate components and assemble them into your own box. You will get twice the power and run time for your money making your own, than buying one of these from any company. But it is convenient to buy an already made commercial power box. Just that it will cost more.
Agreed. Many will not be smart enough to do so, however and will fall on their dumb sword and gore themselves with these somewhat unreliable offerings with proprietary parts. One bad part condemns the entire unit. Always better to have replaceable components than all in one.
Can you send me the link to everything that I can purchase to build a 1800w output, 1024wh unit for under $400?
Still have the option to buy at the store. Most components you try to build yourself you have to have an online account to buy anything. It would be nice to buy diy I tried. Don't have a any online account or want to deal with hassle or security risks.
I was waiting for these and the pricing is way off in the market.
I just got another Bluetti AC180(around 1080:watt hours)for $411 on special.
I think their projected prices aren’t going to sell many units.
Too bad
The 11,500 tri fuel on the other hand will be in my garage…
Where did you get the ac180 at?
They gave MSRP, you didn't buy the Bluetti at MSRP.
@@Mediiiicc Even at 25% off projected prices HF can’t compete.Not to mention the recharge time on the smallest unit is over two hours.
I like HF,I just dropped $350 today on the ICON sale.I want to like these,they just can’t compete in current form.
I am pretty sure these predator power stations do not have MPPT solar tracking for the charging circuit and probably just PWM instead. This would explains why the input Max charging voltage is so low. This is going to be a big pass for me. I guess they would be ok if your not planning on recharging it out in the field and instead just planning on charging it back up on wall power when you get home. Charging would be pretty slow with a PWM charging circuit. One of the advantages with MPPT you can have a higher voltage solar panels and still able to charge your power station even in lower light conditions.
The little one has mppt for sure. Looked at one today. Have a coupon. $169. Going to pass though because I already have a Jackery 290 that I have been using for years. 200watt ac output maximum. The little Predator does 350w but it's still only 294 watt hours and the increase in maximum output isn't enough to matter for anything I would use. Besides that the 18650 cells in the Jackery are tried and true. The Predator has "superior" battery tech but I just don't care because there is no practical advantage in my opinion. Many more charge cycles but that means the batteries will just outlive the rest of the unit.
Any release date for the solar panels? These look promising. The 2k looks to be a car campers dream product and love that there are harbor freights pretty much everywhere for support. Glad that they are moving away from Jackery. I would purchase an extended warranty plan since these are essentially the first run in this lineup.
I have about 10 of these lithum inverters from various manufacturers, mostly Ego, Bluetti, Ecoflow and Jackery and really like them. I also made 2 monster sized ones myself with 5KwH each to run the freezers over a week. The reason the one panel didn't come on is because you just tap the on switch, instead of holding it down (unlike Main Power) .
Got you beat. I buy the failed 'all-in-one' power stations, harvest the batteries (which rarely fail) and build my own power stations and have over 20. Ebay (and other online sites) have 'for parts only' defective power stations listed most of the time. The proprietary components, when failed cause the entire unit to be worthless. And even under warranty manufacturers will claim damage caused by surge or misuse and void warranty repair. Better to abuse them back by using the batteries cramed inside. Add an inverter, bms, charge controller and you've got a power station again.
@ good for you but I also have 4 other ways to generate power, each with a backup for each in gas, natural gas, propane and solar. I have 4 types of solar panels including full size rigid, semi rigid and foldable, half of all pieces including batteries are protected in a faraday cage. I have two direct ng hookup to my house and a smart 22kw whole house generator with auto transfer switch.
The 2000 watt looks great am looking to purchase that one when available
Established brands are selling at $0.50 per wh on low end, HF will need to be more comparative to get market share. $200 for 294 wh is a premium from non premium brand.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Look like some quality stuff. 50v Solar for the big one is rather weak.
HF has really stepped up their game with the new line coming out. I just picked up and reviewed the 350w power station and I’m impressed. The release is already driving down competitor prices
BEST video of these on youtube thank you!
💪🏼👍🏼👊🏼😀
If 200 is the price of the first one, I'm not terribly impressed. I'd DEFINITELY be waiting for sales or discount coupons before I bought.
I will say that the warranty and ease of return is a plus compared to pretty much all other brands.
Fifty cents per watt hour is the good deal nowadays. So $150 is more like the price if quality cells.
Agree with others regarding price. With coupon not bad price but other brands are less expensive and likely just as good or better 😮
If there was a coupon for 140-170 I’d buy the small one. Or if a 20% coupon doesn’t exclude power stations, but yeah 200 bucks is a little steep.
Yeah just bought an anker C300 for the same price. More ports, features and about half the size.
BLUETTI eb3a seems to have better specs for $200. Slightly smaller battery but much bigger inverter, and 200w solar charge rate.
I saw those on Tuesday, I wondered if I could use one in my mobile detailing set up instead of my gas generator.
I like the inverter to battery capacity large enough to run a full size fridge/ or freezer but small enough to be efficient. I find it difficult to believe that the 1500W inverter will surge to 4000W. Also a deal breaker for me the is the solar input with a max of 50V
Right? It's 800w max solar. What do they expect, 2s8p with 16x 50-100 watt panels??
HF needs to help the RV folks with a model that competes with Genmax 7250. Love my Predator 5000 but it’s not quite powerful enough for full-time boondocking. The Genmax 7250 has the right amount of power in the right overall dimensions. But my Genmax has not been reliable and impossible to get service. Back to using my Predator 5000 and waiting for HF to come out with that next size up.
Can’t wait till you get your hands on those I’m curious to how they perform I’m an EcoFlow guy because of you so I’m kind of curious if Harbor freight the one down the street from my house is gonna perform better or the same because warranty information is always nice when the company is down the street
Yea curious as well. Always cautious on first runs
Well I went to harbor freight yesterday they only have the small one for 200 bucks I don’t want that . When are the big ones 1000 2000 watt are gonna be in stock ? I want the bigger one . I guess I’ll wait . That little one is not gonna do anything but charge your phone it’s not even big enough for a small electric heater. To me it’s a waste of $200 bucks . I rather get the 2000. For the extra juice
Totally agreed
Kinda affordable but the 2,000 continues solar generator for a 1000 bucks for that u could buy a bluetti v2 200 for 1100 that's 2600 running and 4000 surge and 2100 watt hour instead of 1600 just seams kinda expensive for a store supposed to be know for cheap stuff and good deals
Dammmm jackery might be the past now. Predator looks really good
Not too long ago you could get a 900 watt two stroke generator for 79 bucks with a coupon.
Keep fuel in it and you have unlimited power.
Literally, for 80 bucks.
No,
When there's a disaster that might last for weeks.
A solar power and power station are your best friends.
When power goes out, they won't sell you gas. No electricity, the pumps don't work.
Besides, they will rashion how much you can buy.
Yeah but what can you do with it? The power is so dirty it will fry anything electronic. That means it can run a fridge/freezer and some lights. That's assuming your fridge has zero electronics inside and your lights are not LEDs. Not that useful overall. I own two of those little two-strokes and never use them because I fear breaking stuff.
@@nodak81 Yeah but pretty much all those sensitive electronics convert AC to DC anyway so that dirty power doesn’t matter unless you’re powering an AC motor.
Not to mention if you’re powering expensive stuff you’re not using an 80 dollar generator or a 200 dollar harbor freight power supply.
You will have enough money and brains to have plenty of clean power without pinching pennies and wondering how to accomplish it.
Have to keep 2 stroke oil around, and have a supply of no ethanol gas, so there are a few variables to "unlimited".
@@runderwo If an individual is not man enough to source fuel and premix for a situation that requires emergency power then I’d say they deserve a fancy battery in a box.
interested in the 2000w one. That's the only one in missing. I already have 7 power stations ranging from 200w - 1000w
HF going to press you to buy an ext warranty if it craps out or is the 5 yr warranty take care of issues? Big question!!
Warranty is only for 1 free replacement.
Waiting for the new generation generators to hit the market. Any idea when we will see them?
How do you hook UP 12v Or 24v water pump UP to it ? I’ve been using deep cells Marines batteries.
What is HF going to do when them tariffs come?
How loud is that new big tri fuel inverter generator going to be? Thanks
So are they going to clear out the Jackery units?
Wonder if I could power my electric Badlands winch with these
Awesome! Didnt know SEMA had stuff like this!
It’s minimal but there are a couple around. Nothing like CES
All gennys should be tri fuel nowadays, especially inverter types. I have their trifuel 13kw from earlier this year but wish they had the inverter before I bought it.
Adds lots of money to the price. As someone that has zero interest in propane or NG, I say no thank you.
@ go ahead and be reliant on a single source of fuel, I don't care. Guess you don't like options. Storing propane lasts practically forever without gasoline eating away at the components. Trifuel is only slightly more expensive nowadays and you can switch from one to the other while the genny is running. Plus I have an NG hookup to my house so don't even need to leave home 🤣😂🤣
If you bought the replacement plan, they might allow you to exchange your 13k generator for the 11.5k inverter, given that it will most likely be a bit more expensive.
Stupid question but can I plug in a deep cell charger and charge other deep cycle lead battery
When are going to start selling the big ones?
I think late December or mid January
I noticed that the 3500 W inverter generator was missing from the lineup. Will they be coming out with a new model that is dual fueled?
Maybe
Just picked one up
😲
All banks must start incorporating what the voltage leak is over time.
That storage container is huge for not losing stuff. 😂
Snow birds in az but hard to find to buy hum
when are these coming out il have to get one for camping to run star link.
When exactly are they coming out?
Everything should be out by late spring from what I heard
the 5 year warranty is a grabber look... will wait for reviews ....
I have the 350. 2K watt is how much?
Same, its cool but i want that 2000!
Can’t wait to find out how much the big Tri fuel inverter generator goes for
We just want a big battery/inverter that recharges itself! Do any of these battery power stations connect to their gas generator counterpart?
Can't you charge up power stations with a generator?
Yes
A lady at the store told me the Predator power stations are coming out about a month ago.
All popular power station brands now come with a 5 year warranty.
EPS is so outdated.
Jackery just released a 0 ms UPS.
Ecoflow came out with 10 ms UPS
They lack Solar charging.
The only way to compete with Ecoflow, Bluetti, Jackery, and Anker is the price
Better be much cheaper than the competition or there's no future.
Wouldn’t even be a contender for me if not duel fuel at a minimum on 9500
Dual vs duel.
My requirements for a generator: dual fuel or tri-fuel, inverter. This is a minimum.
Anderson over XT60?
Yea xt60 seems a little easier to come by
I'm hyped so badly for the bigger power stations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate that I had to use pecron for affordable, but these are going to compete and outperform Pecron customer support.
I'm looking at the folding panels- now the price hummmm
The problem is after sales service of repairs parts etc. Often these cheaper brands are sold in retail out lets who just shift boxes.
Unlike a top brand like Honda they dont have a great network of people who can repair these. But they are much cheaper so just buy a new one after 3 or 4 years
Is HF dropping the Jackery? It looks like most HF don't have the Jackery units available.
The 50 volts on the biggest unit is gonna be a problem. I think my 340 watt panels are like 39volts. So at best maybe 1 400watt panel. That might produce 300watts for 4 hours a day. Your gonna run out power. Say you have a power outage. Fridge only. Uses probably 1500watts. In 4 hours you put 1200watts back in the unit(from solar). In 2 to 3 days. You are at zero.
Most refrigerators don't even hit 1500 watts of surge. Most will use 800 watts max.
your fridge will use about 1400watts a day. From my experience with power units so far. You will not be able to keep a full size fridge running more than 3 days max. With the biggest unit. You just can't put enough power back in from the power your gonna use.
50 volt limit on solar stinks. Looks like they are playing the Anker game no thanks.
How much does the 2025 Predator 5000 cost?
1099. Regular price. Picked one up during black Friday which runs till December 8th. 799.00
The 100watt panel looks overly huge
all they are missing is their own alternator charger
You know what is funny. Anything that charges through usb I can charge my solar panel. If this thing has a usb input well I two ports to charge through solar.
$199 for a 294wh won't cut it when you have the elite River 3 doing that for $169
Prices high for Harbor, EcoFlow cheaper
Eco flow still looks better
Walk thru a campground and listen to the Honda Generators. Notice how smooth and quiet. Talk to someone as you stand near it. THEN - go listen to the Harbor Freight generators that sound like a screaming demon. Try to have a conversation near it. Imagine trying to sleep near it. No comparison. If it's all you can afford - OK.
These power stations are grossly lacking on specs alone compared to EcoFlow, Bluetti, and Anker.
They are late in the game for solar power station. To even complete with the big guys with their good deals they will need to be super cheap.
wait for a coupon
Them power stations are just to small on capacity for me. Wish they would of went big
Them thar ones?
Only the tiny one is available so far...
Not sure Predator is the right branding for this line...
I REALLY think as consumers we should boycott any power station manufacturers that build a unit with a smaller Wh than the inverter is capable of.
350W should have 400Wh 600W inverter should be paired with 700Wh the 1200W model should have 1500Wh bank… come on people, let’s require at a minimum the thing can output rating for a full hour.
Also, the SOLAR charging should be fast enough to recharge in an hour. Why limit to 30V input? 60V is readily available, and plug in with three panels in series…
Small one takes way too long to charge
They also have a Many Returns. Especially the day after the warranty expires!
Pretty cool...with the exception that you can't buy them...Way to advertise Harbor Freight
As I mentioned they are coming, one or two are now available to buy
3 hours to recharge that thing is atrocious. They dropped the ball.
Harbor freight is getting just as expensive as everyone else
But you have to admit the stuff is also getting a little better as well. I remember several years ago you know you bought the tool to use the one or two times and didn’t expect much. Now some of the stuff works very well and doesn’t break or lasts longer than expected. Especially for the once a year type job
LMAO ..
WiFi Router 10 hrs ... if you have NO power, chances are the ISP has no power so your WiFi Router is not going to work ...
@@ACommenterOnRUclips I found it helpful for my Verizon in home 5G router/modem.
@ACommenterOnRUclips Don't be so sure. We have fiber optic internet. In the past 18 months or so, we've had several power outages here on the Texas Gulf Coast. The fiber optic has not lost signal even when the local cell towers have lost power. Cell goes down every time the area loses power.
When we power up the Arlo base station along with the wifi router, the video monitoring around the house also works.
During the outage caused by hurricane Beryl, we had movie night every evening, complete w AC from a window unit, internet, and even popcorn thanks to our generator and solar generator, fiber optic, and gas stove.
We also use an internet phone number to make calls and send texts even though the cell service was out.
We added an Ecoflow River 2 to power just the wifi and Arlo, and we have smaller power banks that we bought on sale for several of the wifi mesh extenders.
We're totally sold on fiber optic and power banks/solar generators. 80% of the time, when we've lost power, it's been during hot and humid weather. IMO, there's not a cost-effective means to run even a small window ac on battery power more than a day based on only needing to do so only once or twice a year. So we use a very fuel efficient small generator for powering a window ac unit and the fridge/freezer. We store a good bit of gas for emergencies, but I still wish we had a tri fuel generator. But based on past experiences, we should be good for a 7 to 10 day outage with what we have.
@@chris3407 Why do you have a Verizon "cellular" 5G router/modem when you have a phone in your hand accessing the same cellular signal ???
@ It’s my home internet.
@@chris3407 Ahh i guess that went over your head.
I didn't ask you WHO was your home internet ..
Lets try this AGAIN:
WHY do you have a Verizon 5G "home" router/modem when you "already" have phone that has verizon service on it ??
Did you vote for Harris BTW ??
good news, they call them power stations instead of solar generators.... hahahaaaa.... sadly , HF has been raising the prices so watch out your wallet!
Expect prices to be 10-20% higher starting next year.
@SoFlPNW Why? Let me guess orange man bad.
@@vacayooper4728 WTAF? Don't you pay attention to current events? There are going to be a minimum 10% tarrif, across the board ,on ALL chinese imports, if you actually believe what the "orange man " said. Unless he's joking? Bluffing?
Please invest on a better video or probably record in 60 frames ?
Almost unwatchable. Enable stabilization, fast focus. Move around slower. Watch the camera.
Just remember...Trump is putting large tariffs on all this stuff, up goes the prices!
Great detailed overview but you failed to talk about the size and weight of the power packs. Looking at the specs you showed I must say that is very disappointing. 34lbs for a 1000Wh vs like 21lbs for the new Jackery. Just saying.
Way overpriced.
$1000? Just build your own system for less money and better quality.
Okay, how much then?
$200? Going to be >300 now with Trump Tariffs. I can't wait to see how expensive HF products become under this new administration.
@@gymkhanadog calm down Sally
@jimmaag4274 Why? It's a very valid concern after all the damage his tariffs did the first time around.
@@gymkhanadogYou will have a very hard time explaining to simple minded individuals.
kamala lol
@@gone4days956 Yeah, imagine if we had her competent leadership instead of someone who's actively working every day during his transition to make the lives of Americans harder, poorer, and who's threats of violence and trade failure are already driving economic prices up and isolating us from the world stage.
Frame rate is too low. This video is a slide show. Film in 1080p30 and upscale in post to 4k if you're trying to save battery.
Played just fine for me....
No wifi no bluetooth no deal.