Not having heard more 10 mins so far, I'm puzzled why he didn't raise the negotiation between God/Yahweh and Abraham when God wanted to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah... when God finally agrees NOT destroy the cities if there were 10 Righteous/Godly people within them.. but unfortunately there wasn't even 10 Righteous/Godly people there. Shows God's grace and willing to be merciful, but, God had no choice but to destroy them (saving those who were Godly). God has been open to 'reason' with Him - perhaps a test to see if we have compassion and mercy on all types of people. One thing we cannot fully comprehend is how unacceptable sin is to a Holy and loving God... we just can't understand because all we (as humanity) have known is sin, we colour code sin in scales of black, grey and white... because we want to blame or avoid judgement for our actions. I don't know if he will address this in his talk or his book yet. I may need to edit this when I've heard and read his book. Blessings to each of you 💞🙏😇🙌💜
Typical excuse of critics when they have no good refutations for the arguments made, and are too intellectually lazy to do indepth research and too biased to consider context and proof.
I really don't see the difficulty; these are just stories from primitive, ancient desert tribes. The bible gives an interesting insight into their lives but I don't see the need to justify their beliefs. Apologists will always have a full time job trying to do so but it is irrelevant in the modern world!
I object! Of all that can be said of Bible, "primitive" isn't even close to being true. It's still all very much relevant today. The bronze age isn't that old and the nature of men hasn't changed since.
virgule888 I object to a book of woefully poor morals, nonsense scientific content and thoroughly anti-humanistic values being presented as the opposite. Particularly to youngsters and the usual soft targets of the ill, frail and old, that are fodder to apologists in their attempt at imparting their indoctrinated mythological worldview onto a world that finally has a chance of leaving those primitive beliefs behind and basing our understanding on rather firmer foundations of science and rational thinking. The intellectual nature of humans has changed little but culture has evolved massively and this is where you are wrong! We have a wider, less parochial view and insight than had the tribes that scribbled their mythologies into what became the bible and it should be taken in its context and no more!
'The intellectual nature of humans has changed little but culture has evolved massively' - culture is the offshoot of human intellectual nature so this statement makes about as little sense as it is possible to make.
Thanks for what you are doing Jonathan McLatchie! And thanks to Paul Copan for his lucid discussion of these highly emotionalized issues.
Mike Winger Hi Mike! I love your channel
I have his book: Great book! Also, it is great to hear him about his book
Not having heard more 10 mins so far, I'm puzzled why he didn't raise the negotiation between God/Yahweh and Abraham when God wanted to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah... when God finally agrees NOT destroy the cities if there were 10 Righteous/Godly people within them.. but unfortunately there wasn't even 10 Righteous/Godly people there.
Shows God's grace and willing to be merciful, but, God had no choice but to destroy them (saving those who were Godly).
God has been open to 'reason' with Him - perhaps a test to see if we have compassion and mercy on all types of people.
One thing we cannot fully comprehend is how unacceptable sin is to a Holy and loving God... we just can't understand because all we (as humanity) have known is sin, we colour code sin in scales of black, grey and white... because we want to blame or avoid judgement for our actions.
I don't know if he will address this in his talk or his book yet.
I may need to edit this when I've heard and read his book.
Blessings to each of you 💞🙏😇🙌💜
The mental gymnastics in this video make me excited for the 2020 Olympics.
Lol
Typical excuse of critics when they have no good refutations for the arguments made, and are too intellectually lazy to do indepth research and too biased to consider context and proof.
Really good
Is that book in Spanish
I really don't see the difficulty; these are just stories from primitive, ancient desert tribes.
The bible gives an interesting insight into their lives but I don't see the need to justify their beliefs.
Apologists will always have a full time job trying to do so but it is irrelevant in the modern world!
I object! Of all that can be said of Bible, "primitive" isn't even close to being true. It's still all very much relevant today. The bronze age isn't that old and the nature of men hasn't changed since.
virgule888
I object to a book of woefully poor morals, nonsense scientific content and thoroughly anti-humanistic values being presented as the opposite. Particularly to youngsters and the usual soft targets of the ill, frail and old, that are fodder to apologists in their attempt at imparting their indoctrinated mythological worldview onto a world that finally has a chance of leaving those primitive beliefs behind and basing our understanding on rather firmer foundations of science and rational thinking.
The intellectual nature of humans has changed little but culture has evolved massively and this is where you are wrong!
We have a wider, less parochial view and insight than had the tribes that scribbled their mythologies into what became the bible and it should be taken in its context and no more!
'The intellectual nature of humans has changed little but culture has evolved massively' - culture is the offshoot of human intellectual nature so this statement makes about as little sense as it is possible to make.
Nathan Clarke
There is a lag between increasing intelligence and cultural evolution which progresses on its own timescale.