Are ski instructors focusing too much on the effect of what the legs are doing during a run and not paying attention to the head an eyes and also the upper body? Let us know your opinion in the comments and tell us if this series is helpful to your development.
Are they? Well, one instructor I've worked with a lot and whom I greatly respect gave me feedback on where to direct my gaze, and I found it had a very beneficial effect. But it's very possible other instructors should include more of a focus on this. Of course where you look and turn your head doesn't TECHNICALLY dictate how the skis will perform, but I recognize that it will initiate channels in the subconscious mind that will greatly influence the positioning of the parts of the body that DO directly control ski performance.
I find this series insightful and hope you keep it up. For example, I’ve never seen movement analysis performed on an expert skier. To your question, my impression, and its only an impression, is that instructors are paying attention to the upper body and talk about looking ahead or setting targets, if that’s what you mean by the “eyes.” I don’t recall any mention about the head in a lesson or conversation. But if you’re interested in what instructors may not be paying enough attention to in my opinion, I’d have to say its not teaching students to direct pressure to the outside ski. Now, I find this puzzling since this movement is one of the five fundamentals of skiing in my ski instructor association. From conversations with other instructors, I’m left with the feeling that they don’t teach this skill because they don’t think that their students have the ability to balance on one ski at a time.
Very good. As a 75 year old lifetime skier your comments about finding your weaknesses and exercising to strengthen them is so appropriate. The stronger you are and the fewer weaknesses you have the safer you are. Thanks for you videos and pod casts!!
Yes, this is excellent. I think that there is no question that instructors are focusing too much on teaching the leg mechanics in a turn over proper body positioning. Stance, head and upper body position throughout the turn, in my books, is king. By setting the newbie off with a proper stance and upper body positioning gives the foundation on which great turns can eventually be performed. Conversely, to have wrong body and head positioning is the foundation to improper turning. Another good point is with the eyes. At our local cycling velodrome, we are taught, because of the sharp, steep curve involved, to look ahead to the end of the turn or where you are going. This ensures the bike doesn't travel up the steep bank and off course. Excellent demonstration of high end skiing, especially for the beginning of the season.
These detailed high end analyses & superimposed images are fascinating - many thanks! I've already found that turning the head towards the next turn works well for me, at least in fast, medium radius turns. But never thought about actively pulling up the inside leg to increase angulation, or about consciously stacking the load up from the outside foot thru to the inside shoulder. I'll certainly be trying to add those ideas into my practice runs.
Extremely interesting video. One of my weaknesses in skiing is the upper body rotation at the end of the transition. The context of straightening the arm forward to the pole plant and turning the other shoulder up-forward as a result of this is a new idea for me. I have been told hundreds of times to straighten the arm to avoid turning the upper body into the turn as well as holding the arm in this position instead of lowering the hand after the pole plant - even in ski-instructor courses. But: obviously it might also aggravate the turning because after straightening the arm the inner shoulder can become a pivot point or maybe an axis for the outer shoulder. I think the main difference, if it works to straighten the arm or if it effects even more trouble is, if someone already has a stable frame or not. Because in this very special case the stable frame becomes a "problem". One of the most fascinating effects of your videos is to think about a mistake or problem right from the opposite side. For example here in this video. Other examples: to pull the COM down instead of just going down as well as avoiding an A-Frame by pulling a resistance band apart with the knees... Simply intelligent coaching. 👋👍
This made me realize I can probably start a business on taking high quality slow-mo videos of skiers at my local resort for a small fee. And do one of those flipped image to compare symmetry. Probably wouldn't get wealthy, but maybe it'll pay for the pass
Hello there nice preparation for next year :) My short analysis: 1/ both elbows too high, both side. That says you go up (faulty) instead of going forward. It is not only your arms that are not relaxed (as you said) but your all upper body (see point 2). 2/ you are little bit in a frozen-contracted position all along. We should see a more tonic->relax->tonic process instead To do so, you should shorten the max pressure phase and then nicely separate more your lower and upper part of the body ( meaning: my upper body is doing something while my lower body is doing something else). These are the conditions to improve the fore aft and inclination/angulation movements we don't see in your video. My 2 cents.
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Are ski instructors focusing too much on the effect of what the legs are doing during a run and not paying attention to the head an eyes and also the upper body? Let us know your opinion in the comments and tell us if this series is helpful to your development.
Are they? Well, one instructor I've worked with a lot and whom I greatly respect gave me feedback on where to direct my gaze, and I found it had a very beneficial effect. But it's very possible other instructors should include more of a focus on this. Of course where you look and turn your head doesn't TECHNICALLY dictate how the skis will perform, but I recognize that it will initiate channels in the subconscious mind that will greatly influence the positioning of the parts of the body that DO directly control ski performance.
I find this series insightful and hope you keep it up. For example, I’ve never seen movement analysis performed on an expert skier. To your question, my impression, and its only an impression, is that instructors are paying attention to the upper body and talk about looking ahead or setting targets, if that’s what you mean by the “eyes.” I don’t recall any mention about the head in a lesson or conversation. But if you’re interested in what instructors may not be paying enough attention to in my opinion, I’d have to say its not teaching students to direct pressure to the outside ski. Now, I find this puzzling since this movement is one of the five fundamentals of skiing in my ski instructor association. From conversations with other instructors, I’m left with the feeling that they don’t teach this skill because they don’t think that their students have the ability to balance on one ski at a time.
Very good. As a 75 year old lifetime skier your comments about finding your weaknesses and exercising to strengthen them is so appropriate. The stronger you are and the fewer weaknesses you have the safer you are. Thanks for you videos and pod casts!!
Yes, this is excellent. I think that there is no question that instructors are focusing too much on teaching the leg mechanics in a turn over proper body positioning. Stance, head and upper body position throughout the turn, in my books, is king. By setting the newbie off with a proper stance and upper body positioning gives the foundation on which great turns can eventually be performed. Conversely, to have wrong body and head positioning is the foundation to improper turning. Another good point is with the eyes. At our local cycling velodrome, we are taught, because of the sharp, steep curve involved, to look ahead to the end of the turn or where you are going. This ensures the bike doesn't travel up the steep bank and off course. Excellent demonstration of high end skiing, especially for the beginning of the season.
Very helpful insights! 👍
Glad it was helpful!
These detailed high end analyses & superimposed images are fascinating - many thanks! I've already found that turning the head towards the next turn works well for me, at least in fast, medium radius turns. But never thought about actively pulling up the inside leg to increase angulation, or about consciously stacking the load up from the outside foot thru to the inside shoulder. I'll certainly be trying to add those ideas into my practice runs.
Another great video in the series. Could you do one on good gym exercises please
I shall ask my videographer to join me in the gym.
Extremely interesting video. One of my weaknesses in skiing is the upper body rotation at the end of the transition. The context of straightening the arm forward to the pole plant and turning the other shoulder up-forward as a result of this is a new idea for me. I have been told hundreds of times to straighten the arm to avoid turning the upper body into the turn as well as holding the arm in this position instead of lowering the hand after the pole plant - even in ski-instructor courses. But: obviously it might also aggravate the turning because after straightening the arm the inner shoulder can become a pivot point or maybe an axis for the outer shoulder. I think the main difference, if it works to straighten the arm or if it effects even more trouble is, if someone already has a stable frame or not. Because in this very special case the stable frame becomes a "problem". One of the most fascinating effects of your videos is to think about a mistake or problem right from the opposite side. For example here in this video. Other examples: to pull the COM down instead of just going down as well as avoiding an A-Frame by pulling a resistance band apart with the knees... Simply intelligent coaching. 👋👍
Thanks for the comment!
Great stuff, guys. 👋
Love Geri’s skiing
I'd like to know what Geri considers the key or keys to making dynamic turns as he demonstrates in this video.
This made me realize I can probably start a business on taking high quality slow-mo videos of skiers at my local resort for a small fee. And do one of those flipped image to compare symmetry. Probably wouldn't get wealthy, but maybe it'll pay for the pass
Hello there nice preparation for next year :) My short analysis:
1/ both elbows too high, both side. That says you go up (faulty) instead of going forward. It is not only your arms that are not relaxed (as you said) but your all upper body (see point 2).
2/ you are little bit in a frozen-contracted position all along. We should see a more tonic->relax->tonic process instead
To do so, you should shorten the max pressure phase and then nicely separate more your lower and upper part of the body ( meaning: my upper body is doing something while my lower body is doing something else). These are the conditions to improve the fore aft and inclination/angulation movements we don't see in your video.
My 2 cents.
I shall pass on your comments to Geri and let him reply on a future podcast.
@@SIAAustriaThx ! Note In other videos on youtube Geri's skiing is quite perfect. My comments is only about the video you posted here :)
In my opinion, this technique has a fundamental problem, the pressure on the outer ski...