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This new KOREAN SHYVANA TOPLANE build is INSANE
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0:00 - Intro
0:41 - Game 1 (Shyvana vs Volibear)
14:47 - Game 2 (Shyvana vs Kled)
24:55 - Game 3 (Shyvana vs Zac)
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If you didn't know, Shyv E has a minimum range while in dragon form. If someone is in melee, you have to step back or you will E over their heads. That is why you keep missing here.
I'm guessing the skillshot starts from the edge of her hitbox, which gets huge after she ults
@@paradajzisnicla this is exactly correct.
@@paradajzisnicla wrong, it starts at the center of her model, so thats not actually completely true about step back, u can just land it straight away after hitting R. And the only downside is if they move in the opposite of the E direction so that you actually miss
@@paradajzisnicla The skill shot starts from the center but it's small until it explodes. It has a minimum distance it has to travel before it explodes on the ground.
That third death was brutal, Ali came flying from Australia xD wholesome toplane experience
I discovered Shyv Top for me 2 patches before Lethal Tempo got removed and pushed Diamond from low Emeraldo. It was pretty hilarious how much dmg Shyvanna can do if Enemies stack or try to fight in a Minion wave with ult cuz no one knows her dmg potential :3 I used to play Titanic Hydra into Sundered Sky which just isnt as good now due to lack of AS from LT. But also funny that Shyvanna Q in Dragon Form crits EVERYONE in front of her from Sundered Sky but only removes the marker from the Target you Q'ed, so in a clustered fight on top of that crazy E dmg you could just crit everyone with basicly no cooldown when switching targets for q resulting in random multiple oneshots x)
Another masterclass of a thumbnail
Shyvalois
I cant believe you did korean shyvana but still didnt fo briar top, i beg you do it
First game is typical toplane experience - 1 vs 2-3 lane and your support is trolling
I can't in the last year get alois to even include shyvana in top lane tier list, even at f tier.
But here we are with a top lane shyvana.
Piggy
cause she was weak now she the goat
@ridddlewrong she's always weak, nothing has changed. Even Alois in the video is still questioning the viability of this terrible build.
All I want is atleast recognition that she exists, she doesn't even get included at all on the tier list
@@xiariser-213 bro shyvana with this build is used in korean top lane grand master games, this game being hard is him not used to the champ and not using her abilities properly, not talking bout missing every E - her most important skill, so judging here is too early
@ridddlewrong alois execution of the champion isn't my priority concern; my priority is in shyvana getting some recognition and respect.
Riot completely disregards her, and top lane tier lists don't even include her as a champion that exists.
That's all I want, I just want shyvana to exist, to added to a list as recognition that even tho she's terrible, she's still on the roster.
Alois himself has made 4 top lane tier lists in the last year; and shyvana isn't even on the list. Not even honorable mention F tier.
She has a sub 1% pickrate, so nobody remembers she exists. But 25% of shyvana games are shyvana top. She is still a champion
@@xiariser-213 my goat fighting for what he believes in
I used to play shyv top with smite + pta back when it wasn't nerfed. Something similar to the baus playstyle, just force enemies to come deal with me or lose camps and proxy, and when you get tiamat it was even more of a menace.
This takes me back even though you aren't playing it like i did.
Can you do a video on the navori flickerblades build for jax??
that begining edit minimizing the screen made me realize im super high thanks alois
why is nobody talking abt the outro halfway thru the vid that sht was hilarious
I came to the comment section specifically for this. I was floored - like okay I guess that's where the video ends??
it's a joke ..? He says "I cant, see you guys tomorrow" after missing another E. so editor but one second of the outro right on cue
@@siyoo2 ya boi is not such an ipad kid to have lost interest and ended the video there lol. As soon as the video cut back in I realized how artfully well done it was.
hi alois, i played a lot of shawarma and if u try her again i would strongly recomend getting some kind of lifesteal, like bork if u wanna build a lot of resistances but still do some damage (or a way to deal with tanks if u do no damage) or the hydra to aoe the wave en heal a lot, specially when u are not going conqueror. Oc other options are good but having a way to heal with her in any kind of extended figth feels amazing
a fun tip is if you are chasing someone in dragon form and they are close to dying just Q the tower and you will still hit them
Stridebreaker seems nice for DPS and sticking power, but I've personally been using Iceborne Gauntlet a lot on Shyv jungle and I think it would be a decent second item in the build over Stridebreaker to remedy the total lack of defensive stats. Then you also have perma slows from the spellblade.
Godlike editing
Before PTA buffs there was a Fleet Shojin liandries build going around
It was a jungle build to give shyvana more of a 1 item spike but im sure it can work in top lane still fleet healing n sustain sounds good into ranged tops
The wink at the start tore my pants in half
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When he says "this is how you want to play as Shyvana" and it's his first time haha
Alois you are the goat but I've never seen anyone whiff so many Shyvana E's
Alois please play Aatrox pleeeaaaassseeeeee
He played Aatrox already in the past, theres others champs first on the list
exactly 8 months ago.
@@Rivencrck bro I'm not saying that he should focus on Aatrox like he focuses on Mundo rn. I just want one or two games
Alois please dont play Aatrox pleeeaaaaassseeeeeeeee
@@SsS-dt7fk shut
if a good build on aatrox starts getting traction on korean like this one i think he will play him but otherwise im not thinking alois would play him rn
From someone who has played shyvana in the toplane since season 11 and has hit diamond 1 i think her strength is laners dont really know how to play against it
That was the same for gwen , not anymore...
nice to see a game that begins hard, this feels more like mine
Very nice video and well played!! One comment if it’s alright, a lot of Shyv’s damage comes from her max hp dmg on E, in almost every fight you were using q then using e even when they’re staying in melee range, this makes you lose at least 6% max hp dmg from that one q alone, I think you would win a few of the close fights you lost if you use e-q instead of q-e. I hope to see you play Shyvana more in the future
can you try the same build but switch stridebreaker for ravenous hydra since your Q in dragon form attack everything in front of you it should proke ravenous passif giving you stupid amout of heal
if you miss the slow of stridebreaker rylai is a op option on her since everything scale with ap on shyv
I'm personally a fan of a more duellist build - PTA, with ravenous-trinity-hull-bork-steraks
i enjoy the edits where you miss canon minions :D
When doing this, you need bork, i build it first. Your aa's decrease the cooldown of q, so more aa's more q's. Since q counts as an aa, it's a balance of as and cd. Also, lifesteal is nice
With this build you do not need bork. Your Q will be up after after two attacks, for which you have Q's bonus AS. Bork's AS would be pretty small change to what you already have
you really don't
I honestly prefer the warmog shojin liandry into tank build with pta, ur demolish deals tons of dmg, u can deal dmg with e and q, clear waves, run, pushing ppl out of lane just coz u rush warmog
I think they should rework Shyvana, honestly people was talking about her rework months ago and I'm curious on how they would do it, because now a days you don't see much shyvana players due to how squishy the champ is even tho she's supposed to be half dragon girl
what do you think about replacing stridebreaker with titanic hydra
I mean that first game also was really nice to have 4 dragons which is equal to 20 armor and 20 mr + all the stuff that comes with the soul anyway, so yeah that was neat
@AloisNL shyvana R has a bigger player model and the E comes from her mouth, you can't E on top of your player model, so sometimes a little spacing is necessary to hit your E no problem
Feels like you need some healing like riftmaker or a hydra of even a botrk
Conqueror is higher win rate than phase Rush for this item build by a significant margin (and is the second most picked keystone to go with it)
Honestly, my AD Shyv build feels better to play. I rush Ravenous into Trinity, I get insane AH too, I have insane wave clear and healing, while being more burst. The down side is that I do not have the stride slow, the upside is that I push towers significantly faster. I also do not usually build Navori. 3rd and 4th items I usually go Sterak and Shojin, in no specific order (depends on the game), then I close it out with either a defensive item (Abysal, Jak'Sho, Handling, etc..) or an offensive option (Sundered, Black Cleaver, Eclipse, Serpent, etc..).
Notes on the items: A very large chunk of you damages is magic, so into AP teams, Abyssal is absolutely INSANE. When your team has lot of AD and they stack armor, Cleaver is very strong. Sundered makes you go 1v9, I literally got a 1v5 pentakill, tanking nexus towers with that item (Dragon Q, proc it on all champions hit, mega burst of healing and Q can crit). Terminus is the higest damage option, but I do not like it. Eclipse shield insta proc and the item is really good too. All the lethality items work, but they are not good, except, if they have lots of shields, Serpent goes insane and Voltaic, if they are ranged and squishy. Hull will proc extremely fast, do lots of damages and give great stats.
Runes: If they are ranged or can kill you easily, Phase Rush is best, so that you do not feed. Into anything else, conqueror goes bonkers, it will stack really fast, heal like crazy and you get the AH rune too, you become an actual unkillable raid boss, if you are even slightly ahead. Good matchups for Conqueror are Garen, Yorick, Sett (hard early, but easy to survive) and every single tanks.
If you can get full build with AD Shyvana, it is usually game over for the enemy. Like I said, I literally dove nexus towers and got a 1v5 penta with her. If they do not have good escapes or a bunch of CC, they can not beat you.
You should give tank shyvana top a try too since you've played her, very different expirience compared to this build, but just as fun!
Loving the rayman music
21:01 chat what was that moaning
can we get an udyr top video at some point?
love the Rayman music
Looks like Vi is still an efficient Shyv counter.
Fundamentally another BANGER from the lord of piggies himself!
Editor, I implore you to bring back the "squiggly" fundemnetal clip
23:15 use the fcking eeeeeeeeeeeeee
I feel like this build would benefit from lifesteal/omnivamp of some sort
Bro Shyvana top was a pick back in season 6 when jax and nautilus and trundle where a thing
You should have put dobbys video to description.
And Dobby got it from 1vsAll youtube channel buddy.
Conquered is good as well if there is too many melee champs as well
Zac stacking armor against basically triple AP ,okey
I didnt know Mr.FindtheMentos Watch LoL Dobby What A Great Day
i hope there's a youtube content like this for adc's, if only cookielol didn't have an issue
Jackspektra maybe?
Finally, not a warmog mundo video
If you have Navori on Shyvana, Haste over 55 is wasted (this includes the 15 basic ability haste from shojin unique passive)
why is that so? very curious about this
I play bork ravenous navori into offtank with conq/fleet depending on matchup and its also really good + with tiamat you can take grubs solo at lvl 6 in like 15 seconds
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Sej top full tank. I swear it is fun af
Imagine going hullbreaker with that setup
Waiting for 3 hour Shyvana guide
The problem for me is, I’ll go 1-5 and press shift to see how my other lanes are doing, expecting them to be ahead, and see a 2-17 bot lane and a 0-8 mid with a jungler with the lowest kp of the team who got 0 dragons even though the enemy jungler and support spent their whole game ganking me
That fucking alistar in the first game!
I think going navori and jack of all trades would be more worth than tonic
Used to main her Top, but a champion that is a cannon minion without R simply doesnt work against people with a brain
Something about that autofill in game 3 makes no sense to me. Why would a support main queueing support get autofilled ADC when the ADC main he was queuing with got autofilled support? They literally could have just given them their main roles.
no way that miss fortune in 2nd game wasnt wintrading
Diamond mise fortunes really just run into shyvana with R like that hunh 😅
23:31 idk who did this mf dying sound but he or she has my respect XD
17:30 got me bad xDDD
I play a lot of Shyvana top, navori 3rd is the Korean build but it's not working for me. Too squishy but the worst is 0 form of sustain. I think the actual OP 3rd item is either Sundered Sky or BORK depending on the enemy teamcomp. Sundered Sky garanteed crit on both AA from Q so it's a double crit. It also gives sustain which shyv has noone.
If they have a tanky comp, go BORK instead. e + auto + Q is like 40% max health dmg instantly. With this build you kill health stacking champions such as mundo or sion in litterally 3 seconds.
There is also Citric build which has become meta in the jungle, but it's good top too. Hybrid, Shojin into Liandry is core, after that you can build anything but horizon or Riftmaker are good.
Shyvana top will NOT work with a cookie cutter, build as indicated by her winrate (44%), but it is imo very strong if you know what to build and when to build it. She can build any item.
Shyvana also surprisingly counters a lot of champions. She completely shits on Yorick because Maiden and ghouls give you Q reset so you just Q machine gun him to death. She destroys GP because she can instantly clear barrels (and if in dragon form you AoE him also so you don't even lose anything)
why is everyone NOT abusing hydra with this build? Just like the old times, abuse aoe lifesteal,be the unstompable cockroach.
When my man's gonna play my mans maokai or tahm
Can you do a rune guide one day ty for content/educational?
Spear and flickerblade need to be completely overhauled.
I'm running Spear and Liandri's on Yorick ffs. The % damage is cumulative, not addative.
Flickerblade giving you faster cooldowns than URF is beyond f'ed.
shyvana top is weird... season 4 flashbacks...
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yo, i've played a ton of shyvana over the years, and i'd like to share some thoughts. i'm stuck silver because i only play occasionally and because i'm a monkey though, so take it all with a grain of salt.
[edit: my smurf is around emerald/plat elo in normal since still lvl 24]
as you pointed out, shyvana early is usually pretty weak. with lethal tempo it was disgusting, but nowadays, you need to play it safe. luckily, shyvana scales suuuper hard with every item.
as for the current lol dobby build, i'd call it an (almost) meme build. basically, as i see it, there are more or less 2 ways of playing shyvana, although realistically, there's 1 option. either you
1) play ap 1shot, which is stupid, shouldn't be in the game, and i spit upon it.
2) play bruiser. as bruiser, there's a ton of options in terms of itemisation, but it's easiest to explain from the view point of my current build.
- since the last lol dobby build (lethal tempo, ravenous, tri-force, hullbreaker) my go to for first item (presuming there are no match-up specifics) is tri force. it has a good and flexible build path, and the sheen is simply too good with shyv's q
- 2nd item would normally be spear of shojin. extreme value, on hp and cd
- 3rd item is titanic hydra. shyvana's ddragonform q hits everything in front of her, applying on-hits. the auto attack cancel from titanic works in favour of reducing shyv's q cooldown, and since her ult picks up and deposits all enemies along the path in front of her, you can simply pick up, and 1shot 3 people with q-titanic
- blade of the ruined king. sometimes (tanks, lol) you need the giant shred, but botrk simply synergises too well with shyv not to consider. it's the whole package (as, lifesteal, ad, slow, giant shred). lol mundo
- - since attack speed can be an issue on shyvana, you can also opt for nashor's. it's viable in damage, and if paired with riftmaker, it enables you to dip into the strength of ap shyv.
- defensives. Shyvana may look big in dragon form, but without items to back her up, she gets shredded if she gets kited (as you experienced in your games). back in the old days, i would play frozen mallet - titanic - botrk and i wouldd run people down with more hp and dmg than them. shyvana can 1shot people, but her strength relies in prolonged dragonform fights (she still gains fury in dragonform) where you can dip in and out of combat, and mostly play around your E cooldown. as such, you want to be able to survive what people throw at you, because your continuous damage output is too high, almost regarddless of itemisation. Jak'sho was the ultimate cheatcode when mythics came out, and i still sometimes buy it these days. sterak's gage, or any other pure tank item, is usually fine. build according to your needs.
- riftmaker is fun, because similarly to botrk, its stats are too good, and the effects are even better. as mentioned earlier, usually paired with nashor's, as it still gives you sustain (since you're not taking botrk). it also gives more ap as you continue to build tank (because anything else is heretic after 3 items)
- navori is super fun, but it's conditional. if you get kited you're dead, because it gives no defense.
- hydra items. personally, in 9 out of 10 situations, i will prefer titanic hydra, because it enables my playstyle of her (beefy skirmisher). ravenous is 2nd, for lifesteal and cleave. VERY fun with dragonform q. stridebreaker seems absolutely unnecessary. but while you're at it, why not also build shurelia's and randuin's? jokes aside, ms is super good on shyv, but it's best gained from other sources (force of nature, dead man's plate, phase rush, etc) and not lock up your hydra slot with stridebreaker
- boots is kinda situational, but also kinda not. cd boots is super fun, but usually, steelcaps will be better. 35% - 65% split.
- runes. lots of options, but depends on matchup. phase rush is fun, and works well in many cases. conqueror is good, but don't sleep on press the attack (especially if you don't need the sustain from conq)
- summoner's. again lots of options. i prefer flash-tp, but ghost and ignite have their moments. i personally don't like playing top with ignite, so i don't have much experience with it at all. flash-ghost is for ultimate skirmishing
hope this helps bros
peace 🙏
very interesting Top Hero
At 22:27 does Kled scream Piggy? :D
enemy team always having roaming sup and my team always uselles enchanter
18:52 your mom pov
Emperor Piggatron
Give full sustain poppy a try
can you do a video on tahm kench
40min -> 30min skipping minions farm
feels weird to be this early
Is this actually viable in your rank or only if you're smurfing?
this build into melees you should have conq no?
@@shayrow9480 the stats show Conq being +3% to +4% over phase rush. Unless that is caused by people who played top shyvana in the past (the pick rate of top shyv is way up since the lol Dobby video, so nearly all have not played it recently) gravitating more to Conq over phase rush compared to new players then it should be real that Conq is better for most people
i think this build realy need lifesteal, mb ravenous hydra, yes stridebreaker are so good item, but you have ms buff from w + phase rush, your champ have 0 shield and 0 heal
+ravenous hydra have 20 ability haste
I think there're so many ways to play Shyvana, honestly you could even put wits end or sundered sky
Having one of Rav Hydra or Navori makes you problematically squishy for team fights, having both means you can't team fight
I dont understand why you hold e sometimes in fights, the kled fight at 23:15 u won that fight easy if you used e at start, which gives u insane max hp dmg on autos
is this better than the shojin liandry build?
dont expose my secret theyre gonna nerf it like mundo :((
I also played the build, it is fun yes , but you are super dependent from your R.. When your team fight, and you don't have your ult, you are useless... what do you think?
That is normal for Shyvana
Is nt the conq would be better?
Crazy how rank 1 player can't play basic champions.
Shyvanna isnt that weak early, If she has press and bone plate. I'v killed many players at lvl 1 or 2, Aside from darius you can always out damage.
What about tri-force?
i feel like you dont even need flickerblade on her. her q is already like 1 second cd with max cdr. navori makes it 0 second,.
Can u play Rengar top?
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