If You drive it fast but don't force it too hard is ok. But if you push the car over the limit it became very unpredictable. Doesn't do what you expect. The car has her own way too react and it can be dangerous. My other car (Prelude) is on rails. Doesn't fight back no matter how hard I try
I can't agree with you more. I have a '99 AP1 and the rear bump steer effect is every bit as bad as they have documented it within the S2KI forum. Compared to my other fwd Hondas I currently have the AP1 is not only loose but predictably unpredictable due to the bump steer effect the car was designed with. It is like a passive 4WS system that works the opposite way as your Prelude where the car gives you toe out when you want toe in for stability. That's before you consider as owners lower their cars, the bump steer effect gets worse not better. The rear shock also has limited travel from the factory due to the position of the top hat in order to clear the fuel filler neck. The factory rear shock has external oil reservoir to mitigate this problem but the vast majority of aftermarket coilover kits don't, making a lowered S2k often with less than an inch of travel before bottoming out making the car even more prone to snap oversteer. One thing the AP1 is superior to the fwd Hondas is its braking stability, the mid mounted front engine positioning, along with the FR setup and suspension anti dive setup from the factory allows you to brake late and deep well into the corners where deep trail braking reaps rewards and little chance of locking up the inside rear. I wish they have made the rear to behave like the ones on a FD3 RX7 or even the S chassis Silvias, still plenty fun yet safe giving the driver confidence to go full throttle earlier.
A comparison between different versions of the S2000 (ie AP1, AP1.5, AP2, CR) may give you more insights into Honda’s engineering process of the car throughout its 20 years lifespan! Thank you for the video!
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唔好齋講Honda，大家仲有咩JDM想REV試？我地儘量搵下～✌🏻
Honda 死對頭，Toyota 嘅Ae系列
掃把佬煲水ej20引擎系列唔知有無機會呢？
NSX
如果試GTO/300ZX然後俾龍Sir留堂介紹下背後嘅技術都好喎🤤
Gtr r33
16:36…..退休選擇MX-5之後心思思改為S2000，其間MX-5驚喜出現螢幕，再引入S2000呢個畫面好有心思，製作充滿誠意，多謝你哋….
✨🙏🏻✨
代攝影師Kennith多謝你🙏🏻🙏🏻
睇RUclips睇到呢啲電影級攝影👍🏻
是不真是剛好的呢?
兩位主持太資深，可以話睇咁多車channel 入面最informative，無論係車歷史、或者車結構，都係最多資訊。
當兩位一講舊車，真係可以平淡變有趣；車既認識又再多d深d，而且表達手法令事情變得有趣，好易入口，好易聽。
實在太好睇了！
謝謝 龍Sir 及Edmond兩位！
多謝
S2000本身已經係藝術品, 外型由九九年正式推出至今仍然唔會覺得過時!
真啊 靚到癡線
藝術是永恆的👍🏻
超好看!!
千禧年前後設計嘅車真係分水嶺。好多部劃時代嘅車都係99 00咁上下出，除咗S2000之外仲有 E46 F360 依家睇返完全唔過時
NSX NA1同NA2都係好靚, 到依家見到都覺得佢係藝術品
如果真係能夠將S2000完全發揮自如，現時只有一個人做到，就係有份為S2000設計嘅前職業賽車手黑澤元治。邊個有份設計，就會有將性能發揮優秀嘅密碼。齋係喺賽車場，唔同嘅車手，所操控嘅車跑幾圈就會有一定偏差。
雖然飄移出名嘅土屋圭市揸過(特別係J Racing改嘅魔王S2000)，跑群馬賽車場造出唔錯成績，亦都用過跑嵯峨Time Attack爬坡賽，但論實力，始終唔及老手(黑澤元治)好。
喺《頭文字D》裏嘅角色城島俊也，佢嘅原型就係老手(黑澤元治)。當然！藤原文太嘅原型，某部份係黑澤元治，另一個係已故演員菅原文太【拍過揸貨車嘅電影《天煞孤星(原名為《貨車佬》，但因為主角星桃次郎每次媾女嘅結局都係失敗告終，所以名為《天煞孤星》較貼切)》】。
點都好啦！喺節目《Best Motoring》落場嘅所謂原裝S2000，係N1級數改裝車。同市面上所賣嘅原裝車係有好大落差！！即使去搞乜嘢街頭賽嗰啲改裝，一定無符合FIA規格嘅好！！所以改裝呢回事，真係要三思！無乜必要就真係切勿模仿！！
土屋本身就唔係Gan-san個Level
@@36CGMA 講得啱！因為土屋曾經喺老手面前展示飄移，以為好勁，結果俾老手教訓咗一餐(喺成N年前嘅《Best Motoring》已經係好證明)！！
而土屋俾人坤(佢買部33對決改裝過嘅節目車，輸到一塌塗地)，都係老手幫佢解難。
即刻令我諗起god hand
開住篷 + 入隧道 + 著tec = 100%聲音享受
好鍾意80, 90年代或者2000年代頭既日本廠, 可能因為車廠有錢, 好肯去花錢做一D唔會賺錢既車, 然後投入好多人力物力去研發新技術, 先會有咁多有趣既車出左黎. 而家D車真係好悶, 尤其係電車年代.
時代感👍🏻
作為本田fans 和現任(澳洲版）AP2的車主， 太高興終於等到Edmond 和龍sir review s2000。裏面講的我完同意， 照單全收😃 獨一無二的駕駛感覺， 一代好車
姐係所謂嘅AP1.5？都正呀
@@Fujiwara_Takumi86 規格有齊AP2 的在車架/懸掛/波箱， 有traction control 因為轉了電子油門。 但和日美版不同就是keep 住行F20C 冇轉了做2.2 。這個很正， 保留了9000 轉紅區的那種激情😆
講得好啱😭😭😭
工程師已經幫你balance 好晒所有野
一郁咗就已經唔係嗰種味
郁得一樣其他全世界都要跟住改
就已經變咗係另外一樣嘢
終於有人同我諗法一樣🥹
睇佢兩位試車片真係一種享受！好似係兩個小朋友玩緊架佢哋喜歡嘅大玩具咁開心！雖然沒有機會一同試車但齋睇片都夠過癮！💪💪💪 衷心嗰句支持！
有緣大山相見👍🏻
@@REVChannelhk 巧吖！
好開心又見到兩個大細路遇上玩具嗰種真心笑出嚟。
s2000的誕生是慶祝本田50週年，因此不惜工本，賣一部蝕一部，回饋一直捧場的車迷。由開發至製出原型車，上原克服了許多困難，龍sir已提及的開縫車剛性超高轉引擎引伸的問題，而且沒有電子輔助，這部車完全從造車工藝的基本層面探究，琢磨至極限，賣得少反而蝕得少。上原繁也是專製作賣一部蝕一部的作品，最記得nsx typeR 完成時他強調比普nsx提高了安全性，記者問點提高呀？佢話不論軚感以至座椅傳遞的訊息都非常直接及細緻，令駕駛者響極限臨界更易作出反應囉！由人類的五感考慮，所以安全。
一部車令駕駛者開心，暢快，到了終極是靈魂層面的問題。上原繁畢生研究得出這樣的答案，有意思。而能夠有車廠肯讓他將這個答案體現在每一件汽車作品之上，是因緣際會，車迷能買到這樣的車，亦是一種福緣。
說得好。
大佬，點會賣一部蝕一部啊？只不過研發成本高，定價高，銷量達唔到預期，分攤唔到個研發成本姐，LFA就賣一部蝕一部啦，所以限量
S2000... 算係一個神級嘅車, 當年好多機會冇買到, 新出嗰陣, 試車, 可能試車比較斯文, 冇爆tec, 好似唔夠力（當時揸緊E36 M3) 結果都係買咗 M Roadster (都係好車) 幾年後又心旭旭, 結果揀咗 二手996 ... 成20多年裏面, 其實都好多次想買, 硬係選擇咗其他（承認始終崇尚歐洲車) 近兩年多人搵, 價格直頭倍升, 加上步入中年, 又要車細路 似乎都係冇機會完 S2000 夢 🥺
（好彩早幾年背住老婆買咗 FK8 😅)
無限一代中至尾，BBS原裝合金鈴，正
我曾經擁有過AP1一段時間，呢部係一部就算你慢慢揸，都會揸得好開心嘅車👍🏻
FD2真係得個快字，個feel同S2000係完全兩樣嘢嚟😂
利申：FD2車主🤡
各有各精彩👍🏻
揸依d車唔駛快，開住篷聽9000轉，另一種享受
REV channel兩大活寶貝，聽龍sir講spec仿佛已經見到部車d五臟六腑點樣郁點樣活動，聽Edmond講駕駛感覺直頭覺得自己上埋車，真係不得了！
VGS 係好好玩！ 好多人話VGS 難揸。
我覺得VGS反而係需要駕駛者更專注， 同埋VGS設計係比落賽車場。 因為VGS 每50/70/90 KM轉一次ratio ,大家覺得佢難揸係因為根本唔啱行香港山路， 呢個都係一個挑戰性嚟， 需要駕車者有一定賽車場經驗/ kart仔經驗。
甩尾救車只需要逗一逗就救到， 更加接近一部kart仔。
可惜VGS出現可靠性問題， 除咗難揸，就係日子有功 出現變ratio時既lagging ，變得更難揸
利申： ap1 VGS , ap2 , ap1 都擁有過
都係ap1好玩啲。 ap2個樣就再modern啲
我地開過幾千部車，最好玩就係一部Amuse改嘅魔王spec S2000, Best Driving Car Ever, S2000駕駛方法係Drive it like you stole it，一定要去到盡
S2000百年難得一見既好車 有能力梗係要keep啦 會唔會出多集睇車底 講下佢 車架 機械結構
無得傾，呢對拍檔試車片真係好好好好睇！
講起尾驅，開蓬，好玩，難揸…想睇講埋MRS。MRS係少有頭軸闊啲嘅尾轆車，仲輕s2000 250kg，引擎唔係高轉但係powerband仲好用
真係等咗呢集好耐好耐😍依家20年老爺車過唔到環保，S2000呢啲車只會越黎越少😢
同埋真係要俾小朋友feel下著TEC嗰種快感，唔係第時大個以為係車都只會嗚嗚就好可憐喇😢
及時行樂～
中間Edmond 同龍sir講架車上9000轉同埋 彈轆鎖車嘅危險 真係得兩位資深主持先講得咁好 要睇幾次 🙂 又學到野
其實你哋講得好啱, 揸S2K 開心嘅原因唔係因為佢快（要快嘅話大把車快過佢 lol)。開心嘅因為佢比到你一個感覺，滿足到你駕駛樂趣。極力子重量啱啱好，波箱夠直接，當你開埋篷，嗰種自由同engaging嘅感覺，真係好少車可以比到你。我由05年新車到而家，我重未可以搵到一部差唔多價值嘅車可以代替佢。
利申：05美版AP2車主
05年就识得买s2000系好有钱同有品位了
Honda 其實分得好清楚， 落場 格鬥呢件事交左俾遲一年K20嘅DC5 EP3。s2000更多俾Fans開住篷 聼聼F20C 9千轉天籟 儒雅公子好多。
燃油車真係科技上的藝術品，電動車只係冇靈魂的用具
我覺得果句真係好認同,其實好多車都係,有好多人都改到四不像
支 piston rod 長左, 支rod 要求的剛性同樣會提高, Honda 可能都有落功夫
當年有過兩架ap1，頭一架vgs第二架普通ap1,冇vgs真係一架好車，如果你可以試到ap1 vgs你就知到有幾難楂
申利：FK8車主
其實我覺得 abrath 近年同 mazda 合作既 124 spyder ， 平時揸仲爽過 s2000 ， 吾知會吾會有機會試到 好想睇佢同 s2000 比較下 😆😆 佢地條 record monza 喉 都好正
如果冇記錯 Best Motoring築波試S2000係快過曬啲EK Civic同DC Integra type r
我老豆就係 18 年賣左 AP2 換左MX5，等我俾條片佢睇激死佢。😂
3:12 - 3:26 正正表達到龍sir講既，眼望邊, 車就去邊
睇完今集又識多樣rod ratio，真係每集都有野學到😚
上個月入手咗部MX-5 ND2 2.0之後終於明白揸開篷車真係唔駛開好快就已經好爽好開心，上Motorway都唔捨得關篷😆👍🏻
你應該唔係喺香港揸部ND吧？
@@REVChannelhk 英國呀，香港咁重皮攪唔掂😅
16:40 正。。。兩架我最鍾意嘅車前後腳經過，配埋EDMOND講緊MX5定S2000 ⋯⋯一流！
Ap1 車主 全車原裝 除了改左cat-back exhaust (Tanabe Medallion Touring) 入隧道keep 住2 波 6000-7000 Rev 時速80km 短短幾分鐘，耳仔懷孕了
I have the same setup for AP1.
EG, EK, DC2 都擁有過, 現時係AP1 車主, AP1 比頭轆HONDA 軑感強, 唔會輕飄飄. 車架亦係好硬
十年前擁有過全原裝嘅AP2, 係我第一架學識棍波既車。當年開NYC d好爛嘅路都好舒服唔跳。架車所有input 都好敏感要好花精神去渣先可以渣得順如果唔係好易騎馬仔或者跌出power band。新手跳上去就好似新手渣高達渣完成身散曬既埸面，不過果種人車合一既駕駛樂趣同滿足感呢架車上面係好獨特。慢渣真係同sohc civic 冇咩分別，架車其實唔慢不過要揸得快係好難。
其實當年同期仲有一直畀人睇低嘅Toyota MR-S 都係好有特色既JDM雙座開篷車亦都唔差。希望你哋有機會介紹。利申：MR-S 車主
可唔可以喺Facebook messenger 我哋？畀啲相我哋睇下😬
@@REVChannelhk 可以，係要s2000 定係MR-S 既相？
你的MR-S
曾經擁有 AP1, 的確原装避震車子是較為生動和適合，我只換了R 呔已覺得很夠用😁
S2000絕對好車, 換大少少尾牙令波段銜接之間無咁呆, 開心好多. 仲有係車主先會知道油箱制個鬼鼠位, 試過借比朋友打嚟問點開. 不過可能因為X bone frame設計將波箱熱力轉上嚟車廂, 揸得耐左肶會暖暖哋, 但冬天暖粒粒就好正
當日Edmond替部S2000入油，都要打畀個車主問油箱掣係邊度😂
噴plasma 係飛機引擎上咗好多年 Rolls Royce 用依個技術嚟係飛機引擎嘅 turbine 度做oil shield,
諗起細個日日返學見到太子道聯合廣場出面有架白色長泊已經覺勁靚，到咗廿年後大個開始揸車響路面仲見到好多S2000真係好正。多謝你哋介紹！最鍾意聽叔叔講對車嘅感受呢部分，MX5前後腳呢下真係世界級，精彩呀！
Thank you😉
多謝晒！❤️
見到龍sir試車個樣好開心，多謝分享
龍sir真係好鬼馬,表面係工程師,可能有賽車手的技術^^
龙sir是被工程师担误左的赛车手😂
我還是喜歡做工程師多一點😅
其實Honda 的跑車真係要keep著原裝spec先係最好玩。一改就失去了工程師的一番心血
試埋2200cc比較一下 和本田全部後驅車 .... beat s660 S2000 2000cc 2200cc NSX
非常欣賞最少MX -5到今時今日都仲有得賣，圓夢要盡早🥹
多謝兩位解釋，專業易明最佳拍檔，無得輸💪🏻
S2000確係好的車👍🏻 可惜未揸過🙈
當年揸Miata揸完我傻笑左🥳
好鐘意龍sir好詳細講解車款Technical 嘅一面～
感覺倒Edmond 同龍sir 好享受呢次試車👍👍
S2000真係超級經典，睇幾多次都唔厭
多謝Edmund 同龍Sir試AP1, 我每次渣就係好似你哋咁開心😆。在加拿大多倫多，每年只得五至六個月（我只會睛天渣）可以enjoy。估唔到我keep 住原裝都比你哋講到係好事 🤭
一部靚仔既S2000，一車難求。我而家渣mx5 nd，FR個呔感比起我另一部FF civic完全帶來不同的感覺，有機會真係好想試S2000。亦多謝龍Sir今集講一講FR後輪跳起的危險性，以後路面不平的路還是不要開的太快😅
Initial D 講到這車難開，今天學到為何。多謝講解。
係時候開返集，GT7，S2000 set車大會😈
支持！
If You drive it fast but don't force it too hard is ok. But if you push the car over the limit it became very unpredictable. Doesn't do what you expect. The car has her own way too react and it can be dangerous. My other car (Prelude) is on rails. Doesn't fight back no matter how hard I try
I can't agree with you more. I have a '99 AP1 and the rear bump steer effect is every bit as bad as they have documented it within the S2KI forum. Compared to my other fwd Hondas I currently have the AP1 is not only loose but predictably unpredictable due to the bump steer effect the car was designed with. It is like a passive 4WS system that works the opposite way as your Prelude where the car gives you toe out when you want toe in for stability.
That's before you consider as owners lower their cars, the bump steer effect gets worse not better. The rear shock also has limited travel from the factory due to the position of the top hat in order to clear the fuel filler neck. The factory rear shock has external oil reservoir to mitigate this problem but the vast majority of aftermarket coilover kits don't, making a lowered S2k often with less than an inch of travel before bottoming out making the car even more prone to snap oversteer.
One thing the AP1 is superior to the fwd Hondas is its braking stability, the mid mounted front engine positioning, along with the FR setup and suspension anti dive setup from the factory allows you to brake late and deep well into the corners where deep trail braking reaps rewards and little chance of locking up the inside rear.
I wish they have made the rear to behave like the ones on a FD3 RX7 or even the S chassis Silvias, still plenty fun yet safe giving the driver confidence to go full throttle earlier.
最鍾意就係睇試車講解埋機器原理👍🏻
我好妒忌細龍生, 有個咁識工程, 咁識車嘅老豆 😭
如果我老豆都識呢啲, 我淨係同佢吹bore大個窿嗰陣攞邊個datum做定位都可以吹一晚 😝
哈哈，最緊要先用dial表以C筒垂直線同機床打啱曲尺，然後土炮方法係用分中棒碰邊搵山打，先進的CNC有measuring probe自動搵中心。不過我家大少對呢啲嘢冇乜興趣😆
@@sir167 專業! 常言道: 只要一出手, 便知有沒有!
我家兩老直頭一竅不通, 我同佢地講有架法拉利後面殺緊上嚟, 佢地會話隻紅色幾靚 😵
神之手神之腳！ 你哋應該試埋34，一個人揸34， 一個揸s2000！😁
剩返一個揸大霸王？🤣🤣
@@REVChannelhk model3😂
😂
S2000真係好靚既藝術品
Honda 2000年之前真係做咗好多靚同襟用嘅車，我自己都買過好幾部，但依家就一般般。
A comparison between different versions of the S2000 (ie AP1, AP1.5, AP2, CR) may give you more insights into Honda’s engineering process of the car throughout its 20 years lifespan!
Thank you for the video!
睇你哋嘅車評係一種享受
龍Sir試完 S 2000,下次試吓S15就好啦,兩架都係同期產物,可以比較下😃
一把是倚天劍，一把是屠龍刀子性格完全不同。
支持Edmund、符哥、龍Sir 👍🏻
多謝
仲係果句:Edmond拍住龍Sir特別生猛!
希望龍sir有機會講埋EVOLUTION 5❤❤🙏🏻🙏🏻
龍Sir,不如搵一集龍Sir教室講吓日本JDM Top 10 Engine🙈
S2000同NSX呢兩架「現代」後驅HONDA車我都有過渣過落過場。唔知幾時睇埋NA1/NA2 NSX?
S2000 入灣好SHARP，但要小心唔好驚，收腳太快好易轉圈。
九千轉真係正，六千五上TEC，要KEEP轉數，唔係出灣乜力都冇。到而家我先有返架行到9000轉的車(992 GT3), 八千同九千真係差好遠
AP1要low車改避震，一定要加roll center adjuster, adjustable rear toe arm, bump steer kit. 架左係定好多，唔加架車有bump steer係唔平的地方會了。
多謝你嘅分享🙏🏻
Hi,，我係拍攝當日上山洗車同你地合照嗰個P牌仔，估唔到會相隔咁耐先出片，雖然唔係JDM，但我好想睇你地拍classic mini
Classic Mini是一部經典好車！👍
Hello，記得你👍🏻。係隔得耐咗啲😅
畢業有閒錢一定買,恨咗好耐,由細個睇f1就鐘意na高轉引擎😂
9000轉引誘 + 尾轆彈起LSD鎖轆 真係講解得好正👍👍👍
揸過S2000同FD2，本田做NA真係好高層次。
边台好阿?
@@shenray337 好難抉擇呀，個人偏愛S2000。F20同K20都極其順滑，果部s2000十七萬公里，FD2十萬公里，但係都好精神。
GT 系列几乎全部日本改装厂都特改呢架车，amuse, spoon, arvou 等等，最中意AEM 版本，虽然452hp, 但是操控性超好，transfomer feel 米表超正
正呀 ❤️好熱血阿龍sir and Edmund
好資訊豐富嘅一條片，又學到野了👏👏
可唔可以講吓bmw f20 1系， 最好係120 125末代後驅。
唔怪得之頭D裡面神之手可以單手揸呔跑山路😁，另外終於知道點解會咁易炒🫣
已經睇過好多channel講S2000，但係睇你哋係講得最正👍🏻
多謝
感謝Rev Channel,每段片我都學到嘢
非常欣賞龍SIR 拍片前做既工課, 往往令觀眾獲益良多
我覺得唯一真係可以彈既係超細內籠，Miata 都仲闊落少少
吴是阿龙sir, Edmon? 上次睇你地介绍左FD2，我就入手左一台。今日又s2000? 吴得，我又要上网稳s2000准备入手了。真拿命。。
哈哈，下次我講大覇王😅
真係愈做愈好，音樂更係畫龍點睛
S2000 係我PS2時代 Grand Turismo 嘅愛車！繼續介紹多啲好車，加油！
謝謝你Milton!❤️
多謝你Milton❤️
多謝晒🙏🏻
Roadster真係好正！希望有機會買返部玩下都好😁
總有機會👍🏻
好想聽下你地點講DC5..哈哈
s2000真係好靚，好可惜而家再入唔到口。有機會想睇你地試s660，想比較下工程師設計嘅初心同s2000嘅分別
S660係失敗之作！！！！
如果可以搵到當年swift 同期車比試一吓，睇吓係咪真三波內無對手就正喇！
以你哋嘅技術邊有問題呀，期實呢部車一D都唔難渣，只係需要有啲術才可開快啲
雖然我未揸過 但我覺得S2000同NSX都係一架好值得收藏既H車
CLS支持,又一架經典之作。
最想買嘅 JDM，唔計 NSX 同埋 FD，就係 S2000。多謝製作！
經你哋一講，S2000又再洛陽紙貴了
my dream car 就係呢架同拉利F355 ^^"""
請問英國版同日本版有咩唔同❓被你哋講完我都心郁郁想買一部😁
Best Cantonese s2000 review ever!
禁講法 龍sir幾時去試吓honda s660
其實一部非常好嘅開蓬車架(當係s2000)，抗扭度有冇可能同一般嘅三廂式房車相題並論（同年代civic）? 其實汽車業界對車架硬度一般有冇數據publish?
S2000車架結構特別，抗扭剛性好過同年代Civic，至於數上可以上網找，搜torsional rigidity應該能找到的，但網上世界的訊息真真假假都有，要自己多加比較判斷。
龍Sir Edmond
快啲買返架S2000 AP1
宜家都係二十萬上下
遲啲就貴好多😂
要靠大家CLS，多多支持🙌🏻🙌🏻