Cybertopia - Dreams of Silicon Valley - Docu - 2015

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  • What is the vision of cyber-utopists in Silicon Valley? They are responsible for a revolution that shapes our lives on all levels.This is a portrait of Cybertopia. We read the gospel according to Steve Jobs, download the latest apps and are in awe of Google.
    This revolution is shaped by new programmers, entrepreneurs and venture capitalists in Silicon Valley. They have the knowledge, networks and money. Perhaps the idea that Silicon Valley wants to be separated from the United States, is a prelude to what awaits us.
    Originally broadcasted by VPRO in 2015.
    © VPRO Backlight January 2015
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    Credits:
    Director: Marije Meerman
    Interviews: Marije Meerman
    Research: William de Bruijn
    Producer: Jeroen Beumer
    Commissioning editors: Frank Wiering, Henneke Hagen & Doke Romeijn
    English, French and Spanish subtitles: Ericsson.
    French and Spanish subtitles are co-funded by European Union.

Комментарии • 145

  • @MRCHUPA
    @MRCHUPA 5 лет назад +48

    "We're from the future, we're from California" give me a break. If California is an image of the future, we are all screwed. These guys are so full of themselves.

  • @9SmartSand6
    @9SmartSand6 4 года назад +29

    2:12 "We're from the future; we're from California!" I live and worked in Silicon Valley for over ten years, and unfortunately, that 'smarter-than-you...better-than-you', smug, self-centered elitist mindset is not uncommon there. 7:58 "...as opposed to a free market, where the winners win....because they're the best..." That it is an _extremely_ naive view. Quite often, those who 'win' in business (realize great profit returns) are those who are willing to utilize unethical means that wouldn't be considered by, or are repugnant to, truly decent people who thereby trumped (pun intended) in their efforts to compete.

  • @azdesert8963
    @azdesert8963 6 лет назад +23

    Silicon Valley, is the problem with this country, high drug use, high rent, high taxes, company welfare, state tax deductions cost they expect other people to pay , and they complain about government.

    • @johndough23
      @johndough23 6 лет назад +9

      not to mention global sweatshops and polluted oceans and the like. Imagine how fast this would all fold-up if there were no planned obsolescence in this tech jazz. BTW that is really all this bs is. Finding ways to never finish anything/ Keep it all in update stage and milk the customer for decades.

  • @almostcin6667
    @almostcin6667 4 года назад +11

    Thiel, "Sovereignty". Unbelievable what you can get away with saying by having enough zeros in your bank balance.
    Anyone feeling the liberty and sovereignty of technology?
    All I feel is that I used to be served but now I have to do everything myself and back luck to me when the program/app/"system" hasn't been coded to accept another answer.
    I have to disagree with the premise of computers and automation making life simpler or better or more advanced, mine has become orders of magnitude more complex with much wasted time. I can't reason with silicon chips. Bring back humans!!!!

  • @palefeathervaldez3563
    @palefeathervaldez3563 5 лет назад +10

    These people are straight up WEIRD.... They themselves act and talk robotic, like no feelings, emotions, like fake people, can't imagine being in a relationship with someone like them.

  • @TDhoedo
    @TDhoedo 9 лет назад +34

    These are the new 1%ers

  • @sjatkins
    @sjatkins 9 лет назад +37

    Very interesting. However, I have been part of this valley for 35 years. I find many many more left leaning folks than more freedom leaning folks. Actual libertarians are rather marginalized. I also have seen the valley go from the dreams of "Computer Power to the People" and other dreams to "make a mint as quickly and effectively as possible". Yes there are still wonderful dreamers here but there is also a LOT of inertia. You see people go from "Think Differently" to sue the asses off of anyone that may do something similar and lock out innovators and hackers that founded these empires.

    • @deadalnix
      @deadalnix 8 лет назад +4

      +Samantha Atkins Yep, these guys are the minority. Most Valley people would have an heart attack considering the idea presented here seriously.

    • @johndough23
      @johndough23 6 лет назад +4

      These are very stupid people. These are hardly innovators or dreamers. These are people one tiny step removed from a drive-in movie theater swap meet. Most of them operate sweatshops internationally. Their planned obsolescence garbage piles liter much of the third world and oceans. It is Capitalism at warp speed.

    • @lovelyeyessee
      @lovelyeyessee 5 лет назад +1

      I sense the same thing

  • @bitcode_
    @bitcode_ 9 лет назад +28

    intresting documentary until people started stating they were like gods...what an unhealthy level of pride, do not fall for that.

  • @dvdragon
    @dvdragon 9 лет назад +8

    You will never have the end of government as long as you have interaction among people. You can get it down to a dull roar but you will never eliminate it.

    • @johndough23
      @johndough23 5 лет назад +2

      the Game, and that is what economics is, always needs a referee. The problem is when the adult in the building is corrupted.

  • @incongra
    @incongra 9 лет назад +32

    I'm not sure if these people- ( many of whom exhibit sociopathic characteristics ) realise how comical their strutting and swaggering appears to a European audience. Okay there are a lot of cultural differences but at times, this comes across as a comedy show.

    • @TTTHC
      @TTTHC 9 лет назад

      +

    • @incongra
      @incongra 9 лет назад +1

      well, I kinda expected comments like that. What did we copy exactly? - healthcare? employment law? Internet?

    • @incongra
      @incongra 9 лет назад +11

      Tell you what, if you allow rattlesnakes like the creatures depicted in this documentary to "shape" how your society develops, you better say goodbye to any form of democracy.

    • @ThaFacka
      @ThaFacka 9 лет назад +1

      incongra maybe, but only maybe, the big data driven collective awareness about expanding plutocracy will let SV come up with an innovative solution against its detrimental effects yet again. for sure, EU like bureaucracy won't find such solutions and just applies old rules: tax more, fall back to communism.

    • @incongra
      @incongra 9 лет назад +5

      I actually agree with what you say but I'm not sure the untrammelled maverick capitalism we see depicted here is quite the answer we're all looking for either. Once you start categorising humans by whether or not they "add value" where does it all end? And it's no surprise these people hate "government" ( or as we normally prefer to call it, democracy).... Interesting that we both frame our arguments using the 20th century paradigms of "capitalist versus communism" though, isn't it?

  • @Spudst3r
    @Spudst3r 8 лет назад +15

    10:30 The startup seen here is dead. You are witnessing people work on nothing in this shot.

  • @Misuci
    @Misuci 7 лет назад +2

    One of the best Documentary. Bravo VPRO...

    • @vprodocumentary
      @vprodocumentary  7 лет назад

      Thank you Michael, we are happy to read your comment.

  • @zakbraverman
    @zakbraverman 9 лет назад +9

    Hard to figure out at first if this was parody. Unfortunately for it's producers, apparently not. Merely unintentionally funny.

    • @peterbradshaw8018
      @peterbradshaw8018 8 лет назад +1

      +Zachary Braverman Peter Thiel's accent sounds scarily like Zuckerberg. Never before have I heard so much garbage in one video.

  • @good2btheking
    @good2btheking 6 лет назад +1

    I like how just when she said "Pioneer" it showed "PIE" on the wall of the WIRED magazine office. Syncronicity

  • @sharex21
    @sharex21 9 лет назад +24

    In one sentence: "We are the gods"

  • @Claan22
    @Claan22 9 лет назад +5

    Unfortunate they chose to concentrate on a few high-profile futurist visions (those of Tim Draper + Peter Thiel) which don't really line up with the majority in the valley. There are MANY who think technology can improve governments - not everyone in tech thinks gov't is a lost cause.

  • @zoompt-lm5xw
    @zoompt-lm5xw 7 лет назад +8

    10:58 "We are the Borg, Resistance is futile"
    BS

  • @GeorgeDonnelly
    @GeorgeDonnelly 9 лет назад +14

    Brilliant and inspiring, thankyou for this. We can build a better, more just, fairer and more prosperous world with technology, in which people's human rights are respected across the board and each can live the kind of life he likes. Love this.

    • @nixtoshi
      @nixtoshi 9 лет назад +3

      George Donnelly This. Not technoplutocracy. The thing i dont like about some of these people is that they have little compassion, respect or empathy with other lifestyles and sometimes lifeforms. That's the kind of elite and imperialistic capitalism we should avoid. Can technology help doing that? Yes.

    • @winstonmaraj8029
      @winstonmaraj8029 7 лет назад +1

      Mother Teresa had all the empathy for the world but invented nothing.

    • @vprodocumentary
      @vprodocumentary  7 лет назад +1

      @Winston maraj: Do you need to invent something to be inspiring?

    • @winstonmaraj8029
      @winstonmaraj8029 7 лет назад +1

      Of course not!I was answering the folks who reject the coming of the Brave New World.They are all over the place-then normal "Luddites.'

    • @zoompt-lm5xw
      @zoompt-lm5xw 7 лет назад +1

      +George Donnelly Silicon valley reminds me of a cult. And it will end the same way cults end

  • @aybee63
    @aybee63 8 лет назад +4

    19:03 Thiel and zukerberg's voices sound very similar!!!!

  • @doremi5236
    @doremi5236 6 лет назад +10

    We need more plumbers 😛😛

  • @emmayang1799
    @emmayang1799 5 лет назад +1

    Winners win sometimes not because they're good, but because they are born closer to the summit

  • @oscarhernangb
    @oscarhernangb 6 лет назад +1

    Awesome documentary !!

  • @bromanceme
    @bromanceme 6 лет назад +16

    Blah blah! This is Nerd Nation meets the Immortals. Tech guys bang on about value chains, but how much real value do tech firms add? Google tech sector contribution to GDP via wages and tax revenue, (minus tax breaks/evasion). It is a tiny percentage.
    Now to the real agenda. Notice how narrow the tech workforce is? Yet tech is everywhere. The architects write the 'script' and OUR programs are literally at the touch of a button. Decode Draper's superhero murals and his infant mastery fantasies and you find the new ruling class. They're all wannabe Clark Kents: part systems thinker, part demi-god, total Eugenicists wet dream! The global technocracy they want to bring in is simply Feudalism by another name.

    • @MS-il3ht
      @MS-il3ht 4 года назад

      You're using RUclips right now, Idiot

    • @524dominic
      @524dominic 4 года назад

      @@MS-il3ht everything that has power is a single edged sword. can be used for good and EVIL , its up to humanity to judge what is real and what isnt, it is up to humanity to keep evil in check. EVIL IS WINNING

  • @peterbradshaw8018
    @peterbradshaw8018 8 лет назад +6

    These are the same type shit holes who promised meter-less electricity with no downside through the use of nuclear power.

    • @johndough23
      @johndough23 6 лет назад +1

      and people wondered why Barack Obama did what Reagan didn't, authorized new nuclear development. Well it is simple, Obama is nothing more than a puppet of Cyber Utopians.

  • @patriciareilly530
    @patriciareilly530 4 года назад

    Those of us who were young in the sixties know deja vue all over again when we hear it.

  • @Oisilky
    @Oisilky 5 лет назад +7

    This video made me even more of a communist

  • @TheMadisonHang
    @TheMadisonHang 5 лет назад +1

    @what did he say at @1:45
    did he say 'protestant church in Max Weber's era?'
    i can't make out what he said

  • @eastbaysf
    @eastbaysf 6 лет назад +18

    Silly _Con...Valley.

  • @richcampus
    @richcampus 5 лет назад +2

    @ around 20:20 "... wearing pink bunny fur ... and dancing in The Heat ... "
    The anagram for HEAT ...
    Is HATE ~○~

  • @richcampus
    @richcampus 5 лет назад +1

    At the end only two questions are asked, which leaves us with the same duality paradox every individual must seek to outgrow. ~○~

  • @niklar55
    @niklar55 4 года назад +1

    19,20 mins.
    ''Politics has become so broken and so dysfunctional!''..... and how!

  • @nephildevil
    @nephildevil 6 лет назад +2

    Does sentience develop with increased complexity? Can an anthill be sentient? If you are part of a larger being like a neuron is part of a human brain, are you aware of it being sentient? Can the internet be conscious? Can the Earth be conscious? The galaxy, the universe, ... 🤔 So how much does LSD cost in Silicon Valley these days? 😄

  • @Westcreek87
    @Westcreek87 7 лет назад +6

    You want Skynet? Cause this is how you get Skynet

    • @nossy232323
      @nossy232323 7 лет назад +1

      I for one welcome our new overlords!

  • @martincontreras3378
    @martincontreras3378 8 лет назад +1

    Hi, is there spanish versión?

  • @alwaysincentivestrumpethic6689
    @alwaysincentivestrumpethic6689 5 лет назад +2

    Sad

  • @Spudst3r
    @Spudst3r 8 лет назад +9

    43:22 Competitive governance is NOT a good thing. It's what has allowed corporate taxes to fall as each tried to outdo one another to get the off shore tax dollars.

  • @jacoboarcemendizabal7036
    @jacoboarcemendizabal7036 8 лет назад

    sorry, someone has data of music that sounds at the end of the documentary, author, url youtube

  • @TheMadisonHang
    @TheMadisonHang 5 лет назад

    @19:40 very interesting segment

  • @michaelbasher
    @michaelbasher 4 года назад

    Here at the point of World change April 2020 this seems an important aspect video.
    #Thetimeisnow

  • @MaryCateOMalley
    @MaryCateOMalley 4 года назад

    The minute he mentioned Ayn Rand he lost me. There are no bigger takers than large companies that do not pay taxes.

  • @michaelbasher
    @michaelbasher 4 года назад

    Wondering if you was to "Reverse polarize" a space rocket would help ir take off etc etc

  • @papmirelli
    @papmirelli 9 лет назад

    31:55 blew my mind

  • @johndough23
    @johndough23 5 лет назад

    findthebest timed out. Apparently Capitalism doesn't like transparency. Free Markets do which has very little to do with Capitalism actually. Eliminating competition and hiding the quality of your products and services is a core principle of Capitalism. The counter is Free Markets. Sadly we do not have free markets in too many areas which are dying for some air.

  • @PaulJones-oj4kr
    @PaulJones-oj4kr 5 лет назад

    .....but.....we all know what happened to Prometheus. Right? Those who the gods want to destroy they first pedestalize.

  • @Bethune98
    @Bethune98 4 года назад

    And no wonder why this state is messed up.

  • @gurdmlb666
    @gurdmlb666 4 года назад

    45:30 we are 2020 and just now Elon Musk launched his first SpaceX rocket to start visiting Mars. It's reality now...

  • @debbies3763
    @debbies3763 4 года назад +1

    SOUNDS LIKE LOGANS RUN, HE DIDNT MENTION ALL THOSE INCARCERATED OR THE THOUSANDS OF HOMELESS. IGUESS THERE ALL BE GATHERD UP AND SHIPPED TOO AUSTRALIA.

  • @SFENCOREZ
    @SFENCOREZ 9 лет назад

    Boundaries and more boundaries from the elite of the elite.

  • @DailyDaze
    @DailyDaze 4 года назад

    YOU GUYS HAVE A CELL PHONE I CAN USE???

  • @TiempoNuevo-ew7ty
    @TiempoNuevo-ew7ty 4 года назад

    These guys don't live in the real world. Soul less buildings. Note that their people are "given" .. fortunes. These people haven't at all solved any real problems other than the ones of their imagination. Their tools are actually very damaging to humanity and to life. They worship materialism. In my mind they are not as advanced in their thinking as they think they are. They continue to work with the left brain only. Left brain on steroids. "The best minds" these guys have a superior complex and some mental stagnation. There is not one problem in the world that they have worked to solve. They didn't even divide California in a manner that it should have been divided for practicality and function to all of the states or the the benefit for the future. These younger men and a few women are stunted 7th graders.

  • @age_of_reason
    @age_of_reason 4 года назад

    I am more of a disruptor than any of these clowns. I carry a plastic bottle with me at all times and wash my derriere instead of using toilet paper. I changed the world (my world) for the better. The money it saves me is trivial but at the end of the day at least I have something to show for it.

  • @manrez5295
    @manrez5295 6 лет назад +2

    cocain

  • @JohanZahri
    @JohanZahri 6 лет назад

    Do they really have that power?

  • @richcampus
    @richcampus 5 лет назад +3

    Zero wisdom.

  • @phrobozz
    @phrobozz 4 года назад

    Doubleclick knows you and every username you use online.

  • @michaelbasher
    @michaelbasher 4 года назад

    #GodsFriend

  • @rogerwatson1882
    @rogerwatson1882 4 года назад

    4 years later and bitcoin still sucks

  • @johnobrien8398
    @johnobrien8398 4 года назад

    This is creating a bunch of supine sycophants who jump and do what they are told to do by their boss like dancing to we are happy

  • @LucaCarraro
    @LucaCarraro 8 лет назад +1

    this guy's confused.

  • @susannetarkowskitempelhof3515
    @susannetarkowskitempelhof3515 9 лет назад

    It's already happening. Check out BITNATION www.bitnation.co

  • @richardburt9812
    @richardburt9812 4 года назад

    Cyberdystopia!

  • @Carmen-no7bb
    @Carmen-no7bb 4 года назад

    Sounds like a bunch of evil, communist and self-centered to me. Not a feature I want for my family. I'm happy with my Father in heaven and grateful for my Jesus my savior! I'm happy to be part of the real no matter how tough it gets.

  • @Spudst3r
    @Spudst3r 8 лет назад

    Draper's probably right that california is too big. It's the population of Canada...

  • @beansontoast4391
    @beansontoast4391 4 года назад

    Were from the future, were from California...people shitting all over side walks

  • @shadooow2370
    @shadooow2370 4 года назад

    They are not athletes lmao

    • @danheath2913
      @danheath2913 4 года назад

      Lol right I guess they must be cyber athletes

  • @robertcabanas
    @robertcabanas 9 лет назад

    buuuu, bubble

  • @fifaman4341
    @fifaman4341 9 лет назад

    :D

  • @olliveraira6122
    @olliveraira6122 6 лет назад

    worst intro I ever seen I believe