I just threw away 3 - 4Patriots chargers today. They have a warranty but it’s not even worth it. Every one of the chargers that we purchased ended up junk. The solar panel didn’t work great and none of the ones we purchased from 4 Patriots held a charge after a year. So I’m happy to possibly be able to purchase the Survival Frog. Thanks Bill. Bless y’all.
This video of your phone charger comparison just showed up, today, in my RUclips stream. It was very helpful! I had seen the sale prices of 4Patriots charger but hadn't purchased them. You made lots of good points and I made sure to check out other reviews of the Survival Frog charger. I ended up ordering one today along with a self defense pack consisting of pepper spray, a personal alarm and a stun gun (in a carrying pouch) plus and a total of 4 heat reflecting blankets to stash in my car. Thanks for taking the time to share your findings.
Thank you for this excellent review. I'm a firm believer in you get what you pay for. Wherever possible and within reason of course, I will pay more for something of higher quality that will last longer.
The small ones would be more of an emergency backup. Keep it on your window sill, and when the power goes out you know it will be charged and ready. The Survival frog one is good for daily use.
Thanks you saved me $24 because I was wanting to buy the four patriot and I looked up information and found your video. So it looks like I’m up for the survival frog.
Great advice. Been thinking about this unit. I don't charge my phone at airports for two reasons. First is that when you look at your plug there are four connections. Two are for electricity and the other two are for data transfer. In other words when you plug into an airport power you give them direct access to your device. Second reason is I'm afraid of flying and I don't go to airports
Thank you Bill for keeping us informed!! We appreciate all the information you give us about survival since we live in Florida and have been through many hurricanes!! We are in hurricane season again and even though we don't have any hurricane yet, last night we had a big thunderstorm and our lights went out! We definitely will buy some Survival Frog lamps and solar cell chargers. Thank you for helping us to buy the right things!! God bless you and Elizabeth!! We love you!
Ha this is so cool! We just discovered Survival Frog a few weeks ago and we've already ordered a few things from them. We're gonna do some reviews real soon. Awesome products and a great company to deal with!! We did the same thing - ordering that first charger you showed and having terrible luck with it. At first, I thought Jara just wasn't using it correctly 😅 but I tried it, and still no luck! Definitely gonna go with the one from Survival Frog! 🐸 -Rob
The problem with folding solar pannels is that they can only be folded/unfolded so many times before they fall apart. For long term use, if you have a vehicle or building you can mount it on, having a solid, conventional solar panel seems to be the way to go. Sure, it's not as compact or portable, but it'll gather power more quickly than either of these options and it won't fall apart from regular use like the folding solar panels do.
thank you. I bought one of the 4 patriots solar and had the same thing happen it would not charge from solar. thank you was not sure if I was doing something wrong. now I know its just a bad product.
Update 7/3/2021 I received the Survival Frog phone chargers today. They both came almost fully charged. I set my wife's up and then mine. Right now I am charging my phone and at he same time my solar cells are charging the charger. Amazing, Thank you Bill.
I don't know if they improved it, but the 4patriots worked really well for me and charged well in the sun. The airport lost my luggage in Greece and I had the charger but no European adapters. Plus stores were closed when we arrived at Naxos. I placed it in the window and I was able to charge my phone the next morning
I've had the same problem with my 4Patriots solar charger. Set it out in the sun and it never charged at all. Good only as a small battery backup. Lately I've been pretty disappointed with 4Patriots. Twice I've ordered their 30 day emergency food supply at $197 up front. First one took almost three months to arrive after several email follow ups. Still waiting on my current order. Going to look for another supplier going forward.
Well, as far as emergency food storage, we recommend Thrive Life. We've been using them for years. In fact, we are Thrive Life consultants (full disclosure). Here is our "Cooking with Thrive" playlist. ruclips.net/p/PLD231j5QApVJw2Hn9cs11LgY34YOOvQyD
Bought the 4 pack of 4Patriots Solar Power Banks a few years ago and only 1 of 4 worked. It does not charge from solar at all! I set it on a table outside for 4 days straight and it did not charge. What a waste! Wish I had thought to research reviews sooner. This is the second positive video review for Survival Frog I've watched so far.
Speaking of solar, I saw Barry install your electric pump for your well. Do you have a back up energy source for that? Are you considering solar for that purpose? We also have an electric pump for our well and would like to know what you think about solar back up.
I just thought of idea I don't know if would work but thought share it just tpo give someone who reading this some ideas. Get one those solar battery banks a good one then get USB powered battery charger for Double/triple A batteries so you can recharge your standard flashlight / headlamp that take the Double/Triple A batteries. Again I don't know how well that would work of if at all would work.
I have never owned one but looked into it a while back and all of them on Amazon seemed to have reviews claiming they didn't charge in the sun. I suppose 5.5 watt is better than 1.5 watt.
The one thing people fail to notice is the power output of these devices. With newer phones we need "more" power output then most of these "back up" batteries provide. Even with a full charge some of them will take well over an hour to charge your newer/larger phones. I'm really surprised that you do not have some sort of a solar system even a small one for your house or RV. I would think the "prepper" in you would want to have a way to charge everything including your computer to at least watch videos when the power goes out.
I agree! We bought 4 of those "For Patriots" ones, because the 4 pack offered the best price. It's a great battery pack but the solar charging capability is useless and stupid. I did feel bad to find out that it won't charge my Samsung Tablet. You can plug the tablet in just fine, just like a phone, but it just doesn't do anything. I also think the triple function flashlight is stupid. There should be 2 switches, or 2 lights, or something. Who will ever need the emergency features? And yet, if you want the simple flashlight you have to cycle through the emergency functions. I told 4 Patriots all of this and I hope they learned! I won't be buying anything from them.
I got 2, 10,000, from tophatter really cheap, about $5-7. Mine do charge in the sun but don't have the larger flashlight. They, too, charge 2 phones at once but I love the one with the little solar panels. Just don't have the $ ...on SS. Grrr. Ty for the information. Y'all tc. 🙏🙏
Lol. Y'all need help. The solar panel on the 4patriots is to help hold it's charge while charging devices. (Charges it's self while charging a phone). Idk if a 8,000mah or 10,000mah in the vid cuz he didn't say. But either way the quad pro is 6,500mah for $70? Lol. Y'all need Jesus!! I got a 50,000mah for $15.
I just threw away 3 - 4Patriots chargers today. They have a warranty but it’s not even worth it. Every one of the chargers that we purchased ended up junk. The solar panel didn’t work great and none of the ones we purchased from 4 Patriots held a charge after a year. So I’m happy to possibly be able to purchase the Survival Frog. Thanks Bill. Bless y’all.
It's made in china
Yeah I purchased my 4 patriots about a year ago. Not once have I been able to charge anything! Complete waste of money!
My elec went off in a storm this week. One of these would come in handy. Thanks
Very helpful. I've been looking for a good solar charger so I appreciate the honest review.
Thank you Bill. I have been thinking of getting something like that and it's good to know about the slow solar charging for the one brand.
This video of your phone charger comparison just showed up, today, in my RUclips stream. It was very helpful! I had seen the sale prices of 4Patriots charger but hadn't purchased them. You made lots of good points and I made sure to check out other reviews of the Survival Frog charger. I ended up ordering one today along with a self defense pack consisting of pepper spray, a personal alarm and a stun gun (in a carrying pouch) plus and a total of 4 heat reflecting blankets to stash in my car. Thanks for taking the time to share your findings.
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Thanks, Bill. 4Patriots and Patriot Supply market their chargers continuously. I'm so glad I watched this before I bought one. Touché. 👍🏼
Thank you so much for this.. I've wondering about whether or not any were good
Ditto.
Thank you Bill. I have one but couldn't understand why the charge took so long in the sun. I'm so glad u did this review. Im going to order it.
Glad I could help
Thank you for this excellent review. I'm a firm believer in you get what you pay for. Wherever possible and within reason of course, I will pay more for something of higher quality that will last longer.
I was aware of their battery bank, but I had no idea they made such a slick little Lantern flashlight combo. Thanks for the video!
The small ones would be more of an emergency backup. Keep it on your window sill, and when the power goes out you know it will be charged and ready. The Survival frog one is good for daily use.
Thanks you saved me $24 because I was wanting to buy the four patriot and I looked up information and found your video. So it looks like I’m up for the survival frog.
Great advice. Been thinking about this unit. I don't charge my phone at airports for two reasons. First is that when you look at your plug there are four connections. Two are for electricity and the other two are for data transfer. In other words when you plug into an airport power you give them direct access to your device. Second reason is I'm afraid of flying and I don't go to airports
Thanks!
Thank you, those would make great gifts for family members.
Thank you so much.
Thank you Bill for keeping us informed!! We appreciate all the information you give us about survival since we live in Florida and have been through many hurricanes!! We are in hurricane season again and even though we don't have any hurricane yet, last night we had a big thunderstorm and our lights went out! We definitely will buy some Survival Frog lamps and solar cell chargers. Thank you for helping us to buy the right things!! God bless you and Elizabeth!! We love you!
Ha this is so cool! We just discovered Survival Frog a few weeks ago and we've already ordered a few things from them. We're gonna do some reviews real soon. Awesome products and a great company to deal with!!
We did the same thing - ordering that first charger you showed and having terrible luck with it. At first, I thought Jara just wasn't using it correctly 😅 but I tried it, and still no luck! Definitely gonna go with the one from Survival Frog! 🐸
-Rob
I hadn't purchased the solar chargers because of bad reviews. So a big thank you for this review.
Thanks Bill for the review!!
I have several of these packs. Only single panels. Yes, takes over a week to charge. Been eyeballing multi panel ones. Great review, thank you
Thank you Bill, I wondered what was the easiest for amateur Nomads or for going camping. Hopefully they will get the message here in Greece.
I wish I had known about Survival Frog before I had bought 2 4Patriots, which I found the same result as you said.
I ordered 2 Survival Frog Quadpro Solar Power Banks they were on sale.
Thanks for sharing your findings with us! Very helpful!
Appreciate this video! Thank you for saving me from buying a lacking product and sending me in the direction of a good one.
Glad it was helpful!
Can you tell me about the little solar puck light, please. Thank you for the comparison.
The problem with folding solar pannels is that they can only be folded/unfolded so many times before they fall apart. For long term use, if you have a vehicle or building you can mount it on, having a solid, conventional solar panel seems to be the way to go. Sure, it's not as compact or portable, but it'll gather power more quickly than either of these options and it won't fall apart from regular use like the folding solar panels do.
Yes, but they’re not portable. The point of this little charger is that you can take it on a plane, or in a backpack when camping.
thank you. I bought one of the 4 patriots solar and had the same thing happen it would not charge from solar. thank you was not sure if I was doing something wrong. now I know its just a bad product.
Thank you. I always appreciate your reviews
My pleasure!
Update 7/3/2021 I received the Survival Frog phone chargers today. They both came almost fully charged. I set my wife's up and then mine. Right now I am charging my phone and at he same time my solar cells are charging the charger. Amazing, Thank you Bill.
Thanks for sharing the solar powered charger. It’s very helpful.
you can get a usb 30 watt folding solar panel for 50$ puts out the full 12 watts and use a separate power bank
Great information Bill! Thank you.
Thanks bill for the review, just ordered one 🙂
Definitely a good thing to have
Thank you Bill, great information!👍
Thank you for this information.
This is a great review on these products Thank you so much!
You are so welcome!
I don't know if they improved it, but the 4patriots worked really well for me and charged well in the sun. The airport lost my luggage in Greece and I had the charger but no European adapters. Plus stores were closed when we arrived at Naxos. I placed it in the window and I was able to charge my phone the next morning
I don't know how. I've got 3 of them, and none of them have EVER worked.
Thank you very much, my friend. Excellent video. And I appreciate the knowledge
Thanks i appreciate the fact that you check these out so we dont have too lol.
I've had the same problem with my 4Patriots solar charger. Set it out in the sun and it never charged at all. Good only as a small battery backup. Lately I've been pretty disappointed with 4Patriots. Twice I've ordered their 30 day emergency food supply at $197 up front. First one took almost three months to arrive after several email follow ups. Still waiting on my current order. Going to look for another supplier going forward.
Well, as far as emergency food storage, we recommend Thrive Life. We've been using them for years. In fact, we are Thrive Life consultants (full disclosure). Here is our "Cooking with Thrive" playlist. ruclips.net/p/PLD231j5QApVJw2Hn9cs11LgY34YOOvQyD
I have 5 four patriot “solar chargers” all of them do not work! I kept thinking I was doing it wrong
Bought the 4 pack of 4Patriots Solar Power Banks a few years ago and only 1 of 4 worked. It does not charge from solar at all! I set it on a table outside for 4 days straight and it did not charge. What a waste! Wish I had thought to research reviews sooner. This is the second positive video review for Survival Frog I've watched so far.
I got to get one of them thank you for the video
Thank you for this , , Survival Frog has definitely got my attention , 😸👍👍 great video , , ,
Great info, thanks😇😇😇
Glad it was helpful!
Speaking of solar, I saw Barry install your electric pump for your well. Do you have a back up energy source for that? Are you considering solar for that purpose? We also have an electric pump for our well and would like to know what you think about solar back up.
We do not have any solar for our home.
@@LiveSimpleLiveFree We do not have solar either. We are considering and trying to get educated about just having solar back up for our well pump.
Excellent review.
Appreciate the review!!
I have both my 4patriots done ok but the multi panel one is better for me
I have several 4Patriots chargers, and they're worthless. They take about two weeks to fully charge by the sun!
I just thought of idea I don't know if would work but thought share it just tpo give someone who reading this some ideas. Get one those solar battery banks a good one then get USB powered battery charger for Double/triple A batteries so you can recharge your standard flashlight / headlamp that take the Double/Triple A batteries. Again I don't know how well that would work of if at all would work.
Interesting idea. I don’t know if that would work or not.
I noticed when using a shorter charging cord that my devices charged much quicker? Not sure why.
I have never owned one but looked into it a while back and all of them on Amazon seemed to have reviews claiming they didn't charge in the sun. I suppose 5.5 watt is better than 1.5 watt.
The patriots is the same as powerworks chargers with the solar doesn't work unless you got twenty of the things and 4 or 5 will charge your phone.
Charging time?
Thanks, Bill! How does that light compare to the Luci Light?
About the same
First time ive seen patriots selling chinese products. 😂😂😂
The one thing people fail to notice is the power output of these devices. With newer phones we need "more" power output then most of these "back up" batteries provide.
Even with a full charge some of them will take well over an hour to charge your newer/larger phones.
I'm really surprised that you do not have some sort of a solar system even a small one for your house or RV. I would think the "prepper" in you would want to have a way to charge everything including your computer to at least watch videos when the power goes out.
We would like to have some solar capabilities. But we've always other things that were a higher financial priority.
I hope youre right,im going to order one now...
Probably need two so one is charged/charging while you use the other to charge your three devices.
I bought a 4patriot solar charger it shutdown after 30 minutes use and is just a paperweight now
I agree! We bought 4 of those "For Patriots" ones, because the 4 pack offered the best price. It's a great battery pack but the solar charging capability is useless and stupid. I did feel bad to find out that it won't charge my Samsung Tablet. You can plug the tablet in just fine, just like a phone, but it just doesn't do anything. I also think the triple function flashlight is stupid. There should be 2 switches, or 2 lights, or something. Who will ever need the emergency features? And yet, if you want the simple flashlight you have to cycle through the emergency functions. I told 4 Patriots all of this and I hope they learned! I won't be buying anything from them.
Sorry chargworx solar battery bank great battery pack. But crap in solar but definitely want the survival frog solar bank
I got 2, 10,000, from tophatter really cheap, about $5-7. Mine do charge in the sun but don't have the larger flashlight. They, too, charge 2 phones at once but I love the one with the little solar panels. Just don't have the $ ...on SS. Grrr.
Ty for the information. Y'all tc. 🙏🙏
can you charge your phone just using the sun when its fully empty
I haven’t tried that, but I doubt it. It charges from the power in the battery.
Patriots i think is way overpriced on all their stuff!!!!!🐾🐾🐾🐾🐈🐈🐈🐈
Survival Frog is the bomb!!
Lol. Y'all need help. The solar panel on the 4patriots is to help hold it's charge while charging devices. (Charges it's self while charging a phone). Idk if a 8,000mah or 10,000mah in the vid cuz he didn't say. But either way the quad pro is 6,500mah for $70? Lol. Y'all need Jesus!! I got a 50,000mah for $15.
Thanks Bill for the review!!
Thanks!